His Own Worst Enemy: The Rise and Fall of Jon Jones | Part 4
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- čas přidán 24. 06. 2024
- In this installment of the Jon Jones series, we witness the feud between Jon and Daniel Cormier finally come to ahead after two and a half years. However, even victory over his arch nemesis would only bring Jon a brief respite from the many controversies that have plagued his career.
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00:00 - start
00:05 - Chapter 13: The Road To Redemption
29:45 - Chapter 14: Positively Unbelievable
50:16 - Chapter 15: A Short Intermission
54:46 - Chapter 16: Snitches Get... Reduced Suspensions, Actually
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Strength and Conditioning Coach here. Some things id like to add about Turinabol. Turinabol is NOT a weak steroid and is definitely better than drugs like D-ball referenced in this video. T-ball has an actuate effect on the nervous system, making explosive movements a lot easier and increasing total blood volume, which can increase one's cardio. The second effect being secondary to the primary function of the drug. It also has an incredibly short half-life, making it a fantastic drug if you want to run a compound in-between drug tests. Turinabol is NOT a cheap drug, it was not in a tainted supplement because it costs far more to produce than any over-the-counter supplement. He took it because it works and the likelihood of getting caught is low, not zero, but low.
Thanks for the added context. The short half life is something I read about while researching the video, but again, it's something I'm not that well versed in.
Any time, buddy. I love the videos, keep up the good work.@@BeigeFrequency
Thank you sir, for sharing your knowledge!!
@@BeigeFrequencyyeah, also you a Jones Dyck-Ridah
@@rpe11allthingsstrength Can you make some more comments about steroid cycles for MMA? It's an interesting topic that very few people are willing to talk openly about
I’ve never seen such admiration for a cheater getting constantly caught.
It’s still something that just baffles and frustrates me to seemingly no end. It’s fucking dystopian. Never seen anything like it.
The good news is that time will not be kind to Jon Jones’ character and his precious, often self-referenced legacy. It’s already happening with videos like this and it’s only going to get worse and more common. The more a liar talks, the more opportunities it gives for people to catch them in their lies and dissolve doubt. The more time passes, the more people can do effective detective work - where people, from different walks and trades of life (even showcased in this very comment section!) slowly come together, educate each other in passing, gather and look at all the evidence and “slip-ups” up to this point, and paint an more accurate picture that we’re all feeling but just can’t prove yet. Videos like in this series are only going to get more accurate, more packed with info, and inspire and educate others to then pass it to other people. You can’t get away with things like you used to. The internet is too smart and too connected. It just takes time, focus, and the right people coming together at the right moments.
@@nibba5692someone disagreeing with you doesnt make them a redditor.
Ignorance is bliss, one + maybe give the benefit of doubt,Him having multiple! Positive test makes the excuses to hard to believe. The go to excuse of tainted supplements is also a red flag. Guys like Bisping have used tons of supplements over many years and never had 1 + test. A man’s character can tell you a lot about will or won’t do. A guy who will use cocaine a week before a fight , hides under a ring to avoid testing, hits a pregnant woman while driving drunk and high, doesn’t check on her but runs back to his vehicle to grab his stash then flee, plus other things he’s done . Does this sound like a guy who wouldn’t do steroids? Especially when there’s little chance of being caught? 🤣PLEASE. Where there’s smoke there’s 🔥 and that boi hotboxin . Usada is employed by the UFC , need I say more on why they changed their tune and now DON’T have to report violations.
With the drunk driving alone he's a scum bag
@@nibba5692you’re literally looking like the dude in idiocracy saying with his smooth brain “I like money”.
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Hahaha it's funny because it's that thing from the thing!
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@@dr.loomis4221nick Diaz said it on the mic after beating bj penn
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Grandmaster! Looking forward to your next round of bringing TRUTH to the MMA masses.
I waited here for the gm
you could learn a thing or two
That line about DC forgetting the names of half the fighters he announced killed me 💀
“It’s the most Jon Jones way to react to something. Outside of doing a bump and cranking the steering wheel into a mother to be of course.” 😂😂
Thank God you released this too late for TurkeyTom to steal it
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I like some of his videos but yeah he needs to stay away from commenting on MMA, he obviously has no interest in it or hasn't been watching very long at all, he butchers names all the time
44:36 "A cheater is something that I'll never ever admit to" Interesting choice if words. I know if I genuinely didn't do something and was innocent, like murder. I definitely wouldn't say "I'd never admit to being a murderer". I'd say something like"I'll never BE a murderer" or "I'd never murder anybody". You can only "admit" to something you've actually done and harbor guilt over.
Everyone knows that he's a steroid user, even the trolls that say he isn't.
He's why I stopped listening to Joe rogan. Joe kept making excuses because he knows what Jon was doing.
Cormiers hate really feels like it comes from a "YOU WERE THE CHOSEN ONE!" place
Yeah, Daniel kinda has the high ground, doesn't he?
28:07 Big John was in prime Yamasaki form here: allowed Cormier to be a warrior utilizing the back of his skull in a brilliant defensive masterclass. Jon’s fist has yet to recover
I believe it's called face down fetus guard. Not as bold or "flashy" as the technique Matt Hamill employed when he opted for 12-6 headbutts to Jon's elbows but equally valiant.
@@davebaldwin9457lmao “fetus guard”
Given the stakes in this match, I think it was a decent stoppage
Daniel asked Big John beforehand to give him every chance to fight back
One of Jone strengths in fighting is his lack of empathy. He’s more than happy to gouge an eye or break a knee of a family man in that cage.
Yeah its a weird thing to say, but only a few fighters actually have mean streaks (with the talent to back it up, I mean: plenty of untalented psychos like War Machine, etc.): not fighting angry, but actually having HATRED in you. Its an undeniable advantage.
What he did to Glover is a prime example. Being able to just snap someone’s arm/shoulder in a moments notice is sociopathic.
This is why dc would never win in my opinion. He's fighting fair. Jon is using fighting to express his intrusive thoughts.
@@SonglyWrythe picked a career as a fighter because he can acceptably hurt people and get paid for it. He’s got more in common with Ted Bundy than with Muhammad Ali
Cormier being KOed with the head kick and crying afterwards in the cage is still the most heartbreaking moment in UFC hands down. That and Frankie being KOed in his final fight as well.
Especially heartbreaking in retrospect
He didn't get KO'd by a head kick
@@KombatKompanion-yd2cuCormier was rocked by a headkick, but finished with G&P. Pretty sure that was the other commenter's point.
Tony shaking his head after that final bomb from Gaethje is up there too
@@krb0123 That one haunts me, too.
I said this in another reply about why JJ never owned the bad guy character - but I’ll put it here too because it came to me after watching probably a dozen JJ breakdown videos:
Jon Jones is almost like a Walter White or Barry type character (or Rodion Romanovich Raskolnikov for Crime and Punishment fans) - narcissistic & supremely focused on meeting their goals and fulfilling their ego, to the undeniable detriment of everyone around them, yet still believing in their own ultimate goodness in spite of the harm they continually inflict. They think because they feel bad about what they do that it makes them still redeemable. They have to cling to that belief for the sake of their own ego, otherwise they’ll lose the one thing that allows them to act with impunity. They know deep down that a bad guy doesn’t deserve to win - nevertheless they *need* to win. Therefore they can never accept that they’re the bad guy.
Also let’s face it, it feels good to be the continual underdog even though you’re the best fighter in the game. People root for you in spite of your dominance because they want to see you turn your life around. It’s really a genius maneuver, even if it’s all subconscious on Jon’s part.
nonono that is just a caricature people want to turn jones in to. your description is realistically how we could describe every professional fighter
Yeah, well, that's, just, like, you know, your opinion man
This is a perfect breakdown of how he operates in a nutshell.
Johnny “Soprano” Jones
I don't think Jon feels bad about it. He's probably a psychopath and the GOAT.
The goat is back
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Jon or Beige?
Beige for sure
He’s been sandblasting prostitutes
With the S tier grind up game
Thank you for this series!
Revisiting all this stuff, I remembered how I used to find it odd that Jones never just embraced the bad guy role.
But the fact that he always tried to present himself as this stand up person, while being horrible outside the cage, and the best mma fighter of all time, makes him a more interesting character.
It's a real conundrum. Jon is undeniably a narcissist and I think part of that narcissism was truly believing that he was a good guy, who just made mistakes. But in recent years, he seems to have shifted to presenting himself as bad guy who is trying to overcome his faults.
@@BeigeFrequencyfeels like a Christian upbringing and conflicted heart
He’s kind of like a Walter White or Barry type character (or Rodion Romanovich Raskolnikov for Crime and Punishment fans) - narcissistic & supremely focused on meeting their goals and fulfilling their ego, to the undeniable detriment of everyone around them, yet still believing in their own ultimate goodness in spite of the harm they continually inflict. They think because they feel bad about what they do that it makes them still redeemable. They have to cling to that belief for the sake of their own ego, otherwise they’ll lose the one thing that allows them to act with impunity. They know deep down that a bad guy doesn’t deserve to win - but they *need* to win. Therefore they can never accept that they’re the bad guy. Also let’s face it, it feels good to be the continual underdog even though you’re the best fighter in the game. People root for you in spite of your dominance because they want to see you turn your life around. It’s really a genius maneuver, even if it’s all subconscious on Jon’s part.
I think he wanted to be that person. He started being really honest after his last fight with DC
He's a sociopath, had to spend his whole life trying to LARP as a real human being. They rarely succeed, can't control their impulses.
We're still making excuses for a man who beat up his wife in front of their child.
MMA fans are a special breed.
Truly
All being led by a human egg that slaps his wife......
Who the hell is making excuses? All I see is him being shitted on.
@anti Infuriating isn't it mate
@@TheOrlandoTrustfull what's infuriating is you acting as if most ppl are on his side, and it's not true
Said it before and it still holds true: Your videos are great, but your art is even better 👍
Thank you so much 😀
At long last, the quadrillogy comes full circle, courtesy of the Beige one himself. I must have missed Jones saying Towelgate was one of the "dirtiest things ever seen in sports." Man oh man! Pot, meet kettle. I'm not done with the video yet, but this is shaping up to be one of your very best, Beige Frequency. Really compelling stuff.
That was an oblivious statement by jon
@@BeigeFrequency Self reflection is not one of his strengths, haha. Can't wait for parts 5-9+!
Jon Jones speaking about anyone else's bad behavior......is not a good idea.
I think it was a little tongue in cheek from Jon
Even though I knew the story, the way you talked about DC and his age and him not getting closure made me feel the same sadness all over again. I really do not understand how people can still be Jon Jones fans and I hope by some miracle he will stand in front of Ngannou in the octagon and I hope he will get ktfo.
I await his downfall. It is inevitable. And I will be there to gloat. A guy like him will have a horrendous outcome, whether its drugs, out of the ring violence, running out of money. It will be something.
DC also had sus test results.
@@umarb7325DC is not a massive prick though who could have killed a pregnant woman and wasn't even self aware enough to pretend to be sorry years later on rogan talking about it. He was still just referring to that crash about how bad it was for him. He is cold.
@@ErinJeanetteSchrodinger's fetus, it's a child and Alive if the mother says so.
@@nibba5692 OK, that wasn't the point of what I said at all. Sounds like you just wanted to use a word you heard somewhere.
YES, I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS FOR SO LONG!
Great to have this series back, love your work mate!
Whenever people resort to the "why would I cheat/commit a crime in such a way that I got caught" argument, you know they are in a guilty spiral.
Either that, or they are innocent. Both is possible.
@@diggie9598If you think Jones is innocent, I've got a bridge to sell you.
@@astuteandy Did i say anything about Jones? Think again.
@@diggie9598 Your original comment literally insinuates that Jones could be innocent. Learn how to use English properly.
@@astuteandy I pointed out the logical fallacy in the original "whenever people" statement. The statement says nothing about Jones and i did not either. "Either that, or they are innocent. Both is possible" does not by any means "literally insinuate" anything about Jones in particular. I wrote "they" and it exactly is supposed to mean what it says. This is not so much about language skills but about critical thinking abilities. You can desperately try to be "right" or you can learn something. Up to you.
As of today, it's been 8 months since this video was uploaded and I have listened to it, and Parts 1-3 so many times. I am chomping at the bit for Part 5.
single handedly keeping me semi informed about UFC
DC commented on the age thing in a podcast with a RC and it was really heartbreaking to see him reminisce of the rivalry
Gosh Beige.. you make some of the best docs on YT. Thank you 🙏🏻
18:35 as a one time juice head, you only take estrogen blockers due to being on steroids.
I’m really surprised you let him get away with this 47:42 this is the crux of my issue with Jon. He says things like that that actually overtly incriminate him. How many times did he essentially boast he beat DC after a weekend of coke? He said the same thing another Stipe . It’s his defense mechanism as he explained in case he lost. So for him to suggest he’d never jeopardize a fight or his career knowingly taking a banned substance a week out is genuinely borderline comical. For me I can’t get past this moment. It shows not only is he willing to manipulate despite all his other comments being on camera, the logic of the statement he’s attempting to appeal to proves he’s consciously aware of how ridiculous it is while simultaneously providing evidence he’s has zero qualms about bold face lying. This wasn’t THAT far removed from those comments. He was no longer just a kid.
Well freaking said bro.
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Using pictures of Vern Troyer (RIP) lifting weights as the backdrop while talking about Joe Rogan will never not be absolutely hilarious. It’s the comedic chefs kiss like that which sets your stuff apart
These videos are so well done I'm hooked Everytime!!
The point about DC never getting true closure with Jon is definitely something I think a lot of us never considered regarding that situation and genuinely makes a lot more sense than just insinuating DC is still salty about it or something equally immature, especially when you take into account just how maturely the guy has responded to FAR more hurtful life altering situations in the past, great stuff as always looking forward to more!
He really was completely screwed over by Jones.
How many more times should old steroid head beat the shit out of him before Cormier gets his “closure”? It’s all salt my boy
You won't find too many people who can look at a situation objectively. Most will be from fanboys crying "GOAT" and that is fundamentally their entire discourse
@@BeigeFrequencyJones and UFC. No legitimate sports industry tolerates drug use but Dana and Co didn't (and still don't) seem to mind. Lance Armstrong was literally a God amongst his peers and in his sport until he was caught, stripped of his titles and disgraced.
@@madeovstarstuff and what was the name of the organization that essentially failed to catch Lance Armstrong cheating for all those years? Oh....that's right.....USADA....what a coincidence🤔
Slick Vos reference ya slipped in there ;)
Jones has been stripped 3 times but is still in the HOF. Dude is a chronic cheater but still have die-hard fans. I believe in this current HW run but he'll never be the goat with this many controversies. Goats don't cheat.
Respect That
You keep thinking that buddy
No one cares what you think.
@anti4330 how does jones semen taste? Did he beat you like he beats his wife?
Another excellent video. I feel a little older seeing all this Jon Jones stuff after living through it and being a massive mma fan. Looking forward to part 5
Same. This kind of thing happens often for me these days. Haha. Seeing any kind of sports footage from 10 years ago or more makes me feel old. Lol especially when the footage even looks old and dated for whatever reason even though it’s not that old.
Used this series to educate some of my new MMA fans on the UFC- Jon Jones story really touches on so many important eras in the sport
Our boy Beige is back... AND HE'S STILL MY BOOOOY
I’ve never clicked a video faster
This 100%
Oh hell yes, been waiting for this one, Beige!
Good to have you back at it with the MMA videos, my friend…this ought to be good.
Bro we have been waiting so long for this! Keep up with the great work!
These videos are always great, really informative
Well this has made my night. Thanks for the upload man!!
Thank you! I've checked the channel every day for this video!
Love the new content, but pumped for this.
I'm really enjoying your Jon Jones series, dude. Keep up the awesome work!
All the gloating and taunting of DC being an old man by JJ is so stupid to me, the man is considered old in the sport even back then when he first fought Bones. You really felt the need to take PED"s when you have so many advantages of him anyhow? DC is a true champion in every aspect of the word, faced incredible adversity and persevered to become Double Champ. He's a good man.
Thank you for this video, I just got off one hell of a workday. Perfect time for me to unwind
Amazing work!
I always look forward to your uploads
Great video Beige, the whole doc was! Still would be keen on a doc like this for Tony Ferguson in the distant future
The drawing is REALLY good, you captured his darkness really well
The way you edit and narrate the fights is amazing
These are freaking awesome please keep making these your page is full of MMA gems I just found you and have been listening the past couple days
3:30 lmao even ariel’s voice crack knew it was garbage
The king is back baybeeeee.
I swear you and Napoleon Blownapart should do a collab. It would be fire as fuck.
I made this comment also, would love to see that collaboration!!! Hyped for Napoleon’s new video
LETS GO!! finally after a year of wait. Great work as always.
The production on this Jones documentary was insane. Thanks Beige we appreciate.
Can't wait for part 5
I'm gonna try to get that one out in less than a year lol
In all seriousness, even if Jones retires after his next fight, a part 5, 6, 7, etc, may very well be needed. As long as he's making headlines, the content will keep coming. And I'll be here for ALL of it.
Retired Jon really worries me. I have no idea what that guy will do without fighting to focus on for the rest of his life...
@@BeigeFrequency That is an extremely scary thought! Dude has serious demons, and I have no doubt training and fighting help to exorcize some of those demons. So, like many other fighters, not having that outlet anymore could absolutely make him even MORE of a powder keg.
@@TheElbowMerchantI could see him coaching or doing the UFC media stuff. His perspective would be invaluable due to his deep knowledge of the sport and its arts. He’ll never not train or be connected to the sport he needs it. He needs the danger outlet and to stay busy. An idle jon jones is a terrifying thing lol
Enthralling as always, thanks for another video beige.
Love watching your videos and art improve more and more every upload over the years. Thanks for making these
i listened to all these videos for like the 3rd time at work yesterday and then i see this W
Always worth the wait! You bring a level of depth and thoroughness which makes every upload feel like an event. Nothing is more engaging than the rollercoaster saga of Bones. I wonder what his bout with Stipe has in store 🤔
so hype to watch. sick videos always brah
finally love your content man, clear a lot of effort is put into it
Amazing work so far
Love the Jones Docs. Thank you!
Look forward to these videos so much. Thanks for all the effort you put in to these, the rewatch value to your content is unmatched
Top notch video once again Mr Frequency. Appreciate all you do
This really is excellent stuff Beige. Thank you.
How the fuck did i not get a notification about this?
Shit rarely works for me across multiple channels. Lol never get notifications even when I’ve selected it.
theres absolutely 0 chance you accidentally take tbol
it just does not happen
Thank you for another vid
Best Part of those series yet.
if only DC could come back and take on Jon at heavyweight to complete the trilogy
DC is too old and his body was breaking down even back during the Stipe fights.
Jon is in the wrong profession. He has no problem lying while trying to get you to feel for him. He would be the greatest politician ever!
The thing about Jon is that it's so bad at lying.
@@BeigeFrequencythat doesn't matter.
@@sparkyfister I just find it really interesting.
Seeing this upload made me so happy. Great work as always, Beige.
this series is the definitive doc on jon, so happy to see this in my feed
Jon: I aint take no steroids, man!
*Later, Jon snitches on his steroid source*
Thanks for this! I’d love to see something similar about McGregor, these hero to villain stories are so interesting
Careful now, or your wife may end up in his DM’s.
DAMN… this is a long one! Thank you!
Amazing content as always!
You hear that intro music and you know you’re in for a good time
Always appreciate the work and research you put into your content. Those qualities are severely lacking these days.
Keep em coming mate!
Great work on the doc, your MMA lore knowledge is great. I’d be interested on a series on Dana white and his rise as a promoter.
Oh shit, hell fucking yes. Each of these has been so much more anticipated than the last.
Any news on the Genovaverse remaster?
It's somewhere on the docket
I can’t tell you how happy I was when I saw you upload
It’s gunna be a good day when beige frequency makes a new video thank u brother
The prodigal son has returned! Fuel for my workouts 🤘👏
Jon calling himself average is crazy
Jon has a really strange complex where he wants to believe that he is one of a kind(I believe he literally referred to himself as "The Chosen One" at one point) but also wants to believe that it's entirely because of his own hard work/faith in god. So sometimes his says pretty ridiculous stuff. Like, dude, you have the longest reach in the UFC and both of your brothers made it into the NFL lol. You can admit you have elite genetics.
@@BeigeFrequency Yeah, his "rough" upbringing, the usual struggles. Just a normal everyman! (Great vid, btw)
Jon did lose his sister when he was young and he said he was molested(though he deleted that tweet) so he did have some struggles growing up.
Amazing video as always. Keep it up beige
I have a 5hr drive to vegas coming up next month... totally gonna use these 4 videos to make the drive fly by
Can’t wait for pt5 w his controversial Reyes/santos wins, the Vegas HOF night incident, then his 3yr absence for “weight gain” & his return against gane where it seemed the entire mma world was so glad to have him back none of the other stuff mattered.
Hopefully it comes out soon 🤞🏼
Y'all JJ haters are genuinely pathetic
Said it time and time again, Jones absolutely robbed DC of his legacy and GOAT status. DC would’ve walked through the LHW division and the HW division probably remaining undefeated throughout. He’ll always be my GOAT though I have no shame in admitting those Helwani and DC podcasts got me through the darkest times in Covid and I’ll always be thankful to him for that.
Yeah, it's really hard to think of a world where without Jones, DC wouldn't have dominated LHW and HW, maybe even simultaneously.
"now your calling me the n bomb? real cool" Goated quote
Was going to “ paint the town red” tonight. This vid came through so…….Beige Frequency it is.
Another great upload.
Thanks again 👏👏👏🙏
I'm glad Bone CK is able to brave the recession and fund these videos
“This guy knows deep down I wouldn’t do steroids. He knows in his heart I didn’t do steroids.”
Wow. The delusion in that statement.
It's called coping
Been waiting and waiting, thank you BeigeFrequency!
I just watched part 1-3 today at work, good day
4:10 - I don't think Jon knows what "dirty" means in this context. Dirty is putting your fingers in your opponents eye on purpose. What Cormier did was cheating.