How An Awful Man United Stopped Dominant Liverpool.
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Stopped is a strong word . This game was purely down to Liverpool not finishing and giving a way the first goal from literally a nothing situation.
i agree, don't understand the over the top praise going to Fernandes, look where the goalie and Van Dijk are lol
@@danielhurst4476exactly, if he misses it’s a really bad miss
They stopped them in the second half I’d say. First half was lucky I agree
And a dodgy penalty
@@MJGLove Let's not kid ourselves, the pen was perfectly fine
I feel Liverpool stopped Liverpool.
"How An Awful Man Utd Team Affected Liverpool Enough To Make Liverpool Stop Liverpool"...tomato/tomahto
As a man utd fan this title is more truer.
Story of our season
This is true, but it didn't happen once, or twice. It happened 3 times this season so it requires a bit more analysis than that.
"If there is a plan, it's a poor plan" is totally right, and I would only add that Casemiro cannot play in that plan.
I'm not a Pool fan, but I genuinely get infuriated watching their attack fumbling so much. Darwin had so many opportunities to do damage but he just shit the bed, Dias had so many chances in front of goal to just slot it in, Salah was almost useless with the amount of time he would just waste possession. That front three should be embarrassed with themselves
Jota Gakpo Salah is more balanced
Nunez creates the chances for jota
@@kukunase1686 i feel like nunez-jota-salah works great too but we do need to give gakpo time as a cf
Can you tell me which chances did Darwin miss apart form that only one chance on the left side of the area? I watched the whole game and didn't find any other opportunities like you mentioned.
@@mitsuriji No Salah is washed now, he needs to be sold after this season.
Jota on left, Nunez centre and either Dias or a new signing on the right
Inept finishing from Liverpool impacted the scoreline more than anything Utd did. 15 shots in the first half and one goal says everything..
And a dodgy penalty
@@MJGLove haha, its probably worth you looking back at the incident, every utd player knows its a stone wall pen and none of them complain to the ref. Says everything.
Most of those shots were hopeful though. Liverpool did this last time. They get nervy and make desperate attempts too often. Of course they should have won and scored more but they hurt themselves a lot.
@@michaellord2844 Definitely not a pen, and a player(s) not showing dissent doesn't prove or disprove anything, especially because a United player will get a card for the tiniest amount of dissent. And, AWB did say, "I didn't touch him," while he was on the ground. It's you that needs to look back at the incident. AWB kicked air, Harvey then starts to go down for the pen and makes contact with AWB. It looks like a pen in real time, no doubt, but that's what VAR is for. They were worthless yet again.
@@CoconutJewcekicked air? Did you actually watch the video and the part where he talks about the penalty? Did you see the screenshot? Harvey’s right leg is in between both of Wan bisskaka’s legs. Not only that, Wan bissaka didn’t get the ball. Let’s say Harvey did go down before contact, that makes it even worse because that means Wan bissaka kicked Harvey when he already went down
It is indeed disgraceful that a team as good as Liverpool drops points against a side so woeful as Manchester United.
It’s so awful to watch for so many reasons!
And they did it twice, yet Eric's football is "trash" A football style his only is only started to implement this season that hasn't even clicked yet Because of the amount of injuries and the lack of athletic personnel at the back and in defensive midfield. ok then
Are Maguire, Lindelof, Evans, quick CBs to cover the oppositions runs in behind not to mention the absences of Martinez, Shaw, Malacia, Bissaka.
Hence the reason a big gap in the midfield. Ten hag Cant play high press with these defenders, so the logical thing to do for the defenders is to stay back and guard the runs. And you cannot attack with just 4 players upfront these days you need the midfield joining in to build up play. Hence these gaps. If he gets the players he wants this summer and clears out some deadwood then we can better judge Ten hag style of play etc.
9:15 You didn't mention Casemiro, who is supposed to be the 6. He's up near Hojlund. For some reason (and maybe it's ETH's instruction), he loves to bomb forward knowing full-well that he doesn't have the legs to track back and he leaves absolute acres of space. He did the exact same thing against Chelsea time and time again and it was maddening.
i always gonna blame ten hag for this and not for the results, the man just instruct this half hearted pressing and it is REALLY frustrating that we see fundamental pressing from top teams and it is supposedly so simple and straightforward
Whilst I agree with a lot of your analysis I think that you’ve gone too hard on Man United and not dug Liverpool out enough. They were incredibly wasteful. They had 28 shots and only 7 on target. United’s midfield was nowhere to be seen, as you pointed out, and that meant Liverpool basically had a free run up to United’s 18-yard box on so many occasions and yet the two goals they scored were a corner and penalty. Awful in front of goal from them. There’s no way that side can continue being this complacent and sloppy and win the league. Neither Arsenal nor City would’ve let United have a sniff today. So poor from Liverpool.
Finishing doesn’t relate to tactics though. The problem is man utd don’t create any chances. Although Liverpool were extremely wasteful they got themselves in strong goal scoring positions (7 strong chances). Liverpools problem today came down to individual players not being clinical.
@@austenyates1464 I never said that finishing did relate to tactics. I didn't have a problem with Liverpool's tactical plan (albeit they were helped by United's non-existent midfield). I just don't think Jim highlighted how awful Liverpool's finishing and decision-making in front of goal was enough considering that they are the team going for the title. Liverpool should've been out of sight before the Quansah mistake for Bruno's goal, but their profligacy was insane.
@@JoeCalvert-cy5ix maybe so but this channel is a tactical breakdown channel not a match review its a little different
If you’re falling already before contact it’s not a penalty….
He’s literally 70% upright and also has no influence on whether a penalty or not
@@nameanteater4772so he’s already on the way down then…
The worst I've seen a team play and get a result against a top cub. They got two bits of magic and LFC weren't clinical.
The biggest issue Liverpool had was they were given so many good options whenever they got the ball the player on the ball was not sure which one was the best. It was ridiculous, so easy to get to the 18 yard box but then you could shoot because of lack of press, space out wide players going through the middle, but what to choose.
Then we'd go wrong or butcher the finish, but united just wanted to counter and they made us focus more when they parked the bus and tried hanging onto the 2-1 win. It became a tighter game for space but instead of too many options there was only one or two in and around the box.
United are really changing the game here. Instead of limiting options, they completely overload them - paralysing their opposition in an impossible paradox of choice.
Liverpool simply couldn’t deal with it!
@KnutJohannessen it's revolutionary...guardiola is jealous of ten hag
@@KnutJohannessen Your making it sound like they planned this.
@@guesswork8332 yes. It’s all part of the plan. The strategy is pressing high up front, and then not at all in the middle, so the opposition get confused by all the space they get and can’t decide which of the 5 free attackers to play to.
Reality check: United played 2-2 against a strong and experienced Liverpool team fighting for the title at the top of the league…
…and doing it with a team not even close: including 18 year old in midfield, a newly promoted 19 year old academy player at CB, and a right back forced to play left back, due to 5-6 injured defenders.
“It’s disjointed. They’re not organised like Arsenal”. No shit!
No other team would be able to deal with this many defensive injuries all season. Arsenal couldn't cut it when they were missing JUST Saliba for 8 games, yet United is still 6th with 55+ injuries and 24 (?) different CB pairings. It's unreasonable and yet one of the best teams in the world still couldn't score outside of a set piece and an undeserved pen.
Sean dyche and Thomas frank can have a defensive set up twice as good with a 10% of the budget
@@CoconutJewcesaliba zinchenko and tomiyasu injured in the run in
@@CoconutJewcelmao Tottenham played 4 games with 4 full backs in defence the tallest being Emerson royal. Still weren't as shit as united lol
Which injury forced United to play in that shape?
I am not saying that there shouldn’t be a penalty there, but just looking at one screenshot and saying „am I missing something” is hilarious. The controversy is around the fact that Elliot was going down before the contact
Man utd have had 60 different injuries this season so far wtf
Everyone talks about Liverpool and newcastles injuries
Man utd have played 60mins with their full strength team this season and that was vs wolves
What do you expect when you buy injury prone players
@@unknownllama9833 you would struggle to find a utd player who hasn’t had an injury this season dalot onana and Bruno are the only ones and Bruno has been limping the past 3 games so nahhh your talking thru your ass pal
@@Urmashouldvswallowed same for Liverpool with Mac allister and vvd
They were awful in that 60 minutes Vs Wolves so there’s zero evidence that they would be good with their strongest xi
@@paulcasey4282 do you have eyes? Man united were playing like a top 4 team in those 60 minutes
The main thing i noticed was United constantly launching the ball down the wings whereas Liverpool where able to go straight through united in the first half
Every game against Liverpool this season was park the bus, counter, pray 🙏
@@mightymoeish You haven't watched the last two meetings, then. lmao
Liverpool have been winning games by coming from behind or scoring late winners consistently in 2024. They are wonderful in attack but concede several good chances virtually every game. It hasn’t felt sustainable and now they’ve inevitably stumbled against weak opposition. Is that really surprising?
Liverpool fan but I agree with you. When we don’t take our chances it’s curtains because we give too many away
@@bigted6351 That said it might well still get you over the line! Rather you than City
The issue is, Nunez and Gakpo are not Mane and Firmino replacements. If we lose Salah this summer, our attack would be absolutely trashed. Diogo Jota is our only finisher, Diaz is more inconsistent than last season, Nunez is getting better but would be 2 or 3 seasons from being Mane or Firmino, and Gakpo is inconsistent as usual
Yes, you are missing something. Neither did he get the ball...but Elliot moved his leg in to it. In the rules now it will not be changed but it is a dive into it. No attempt to carry on.
I saw the slow Mo and thought dive too...
Where else could Elliot have planted his foot without standing on Wan Bissaka? That’s what makes it a penalty despite looking like initiating contact
if maguire plays high up the pitch and gets caught out he is not recovering, same with wanbisaka and casemiros legs are out
I agree with that 100% so you don’t press with him in the team, you play a mid/low block. It’s poor from ten haag that he continues with a high press low block tactic, honestly mind blowing 😂
just like the guy above me said, dont play a high press if you dont have the defenders to play a high line. the issue is even when Martinez and varane were healthy these same problems existed. (see the first game of the season against wolves.)
Nah as a United fan you are absolutely correct we were dreadful I'm just happy we put a dent in their title challenge
I’m a United fan and ten hag is awful tactically we should have lost but scraped a result from individual moments which we’ve done all season. This is nothing new for us unfortunately
Ten haag tactics work with a competent defence next season the plan should be to buy to quick center back's we are good in attack imagine if we bought pavard and todibo like he wanted Maguire is dreadful and so is lindelof sell
I like the Football Weekly theory. United are so defensively irresponsible they baffle the opposition who have no idea what to do with all the space they are given.
As a Liverpool fan there’s nothing more frustrating than how Klopp has continuously let United get the better of us throughout his tenure when majority of that time we’d have more players in a combined 11
As a liverpool fan, Liverpool stopped Liverpool. Man United played like a team battling relegation. Fair enough to them that they got a point, but we lost 2 points ourselves, united had nothing to do with it. Man United fans should be celebrating the 1 point and the fact that we havent beaten them this season but shouldnt be proud of their performance. They had 0.0000 xg against us in the first half. even if you hit a ball from the touchline you still register some xg but that xg against your biggest rivals is awful.
Thanks for the video!
19:08 It seemed to me that Harvey Elliot lets himself fall when he sees the challenge, eventually making contact with his foot (photo).
A dive before the contact, (though there is a slight earlier touch to his foot, maybe at speed it could throw you off)
U r so good at analysing everything. I also follow football religiously and u have inspired me so much to really think about the game I am watching broadly and unbiasedly. Keep up the great content. Kerem from Turkey
ok lets judge an 18 year old graduate (Kobbie Mainoo) like his prime De Bryne
I love how massive the name Kambwala Ndengushi looks on the tactics screen compared to all the other names
Love the analysis Jim. What I don’t understand is ETH surely can see what your seeing and knows how to resolve it positionally , so it’s either his decision to play that way or the players just aren’t interested in maintaining the shape he is trying to implement. Which one is it
We might never know...
Ten hag wants to press high but can't involve the whole team coz we're playing maguire at cb, n he's slow af. Maguire is also the reason y Casemiro doesn't push further up. But it's not really his fault, coz we have so many injuries so we have to play him.
Honestly speaking tho, we were really shit 2day 😂😂
@@rhulaninyamazane1413we need to buy two center backs next season it's the priority find ball playing defenders we don't need attackers it would be a waste
Never understand how in a game that ended a draw, the worse team are branded awful. Bad defending leads to a Liverpool shot and United are shambles etc etc. The biggest defensive mistake was from Liverpool, why was that not a shambles?
Shambolic attacking display from Liverpool as in the 0-0 also. United threatened and were dangerous throughout, awful penalty decision lost them the game in reality.
It's called bias. Like, I know I am watching this and the fella got his view off me,but this level of analysis can barely called childish. It's baby brained, blatantly frustrated that football doesn't work along perfectly predictable patterns and that sometimes, the better team on paper (or even on the field, by various metrics) doesn't win.
Moments win games, but how a team performs over the whole 90 minutes is what wins leagues and tournaments.
Liverpool conceded from a single moment of terrible defending and a single moment of offensive brilliance. Do you really think that was man Uniteds game plan going in? Do you really think that's a sustainable way to get results? How the team plays DOES matter, if this result was truly indicative, then you'd expect to see utd rival Liverpool on points this season.
Obviously the game was a draw but are you really saying is there is no more nuance to the game besides just the final scoreline?
Does anyone know what software James uses in his analysis??
I can't actually believe the amount of people who cannot see what Ten Hag is trying to do. It's like people
- never saw ETH's Ajax team
- never watched United before ETH took over.
It's all recency bias, outcome bias and stats that don't mean anything.
Guess what, high risk football is what all the top teams do.
Guess what, with better players the gameplan works better.
Guess what, Liverpool haven't beaten us this season.
Guess what, we're playing 3 teenagers in this game.
Guess what, before Klop, Pep and Arteta had some success people were saying EXACTLY the same things.
I'm so frustrated with the analysis of United at the moment. It's like people are worried that we might be building something strong so they have to knock it down and try to pursuade us to go for Southgate.
I've heard our game plan described as "hoof ball" and "kamikaze football" and also apparently when we went to Liverpool we "parked the bus"
I am a United fan and what frustrates me is the nonsense spoken about our last 4 games.
ETH is not keeping to the media script and defying expectations. People are just proper salty about it when we aren't even winning anything. Why? Because they care about us having a good manager? RUBBISH its exactly the opposite. They want us to sack this guy because he worries them. Southgate doesn't
3.5 to 0.7 Xg . Stopped is a string word especially from you James since you know better . Finishing isn’t akways equal.
But they did stop them?
@@arthurgreene1579 no Liverpool stopped themselves
i don't think you'll find a united supporter who'll argue that we played any good today at all and liverpool mostly shot themselves in the foot by not doing anything with all their chances tbh. In the fa cup though i feel like united played better than liverpool and deserved the win
AWB does not take his leg out, he goes for the ball and Elliot intentionally falls on his leg to make it look like contact
AWB trips elliot.
I'm started to roll my eyes when I see the Diaz, Nunez, Salah front three line up. Honestly we went through a better period with Elliot in for Salah. Not to mention Jota is just a ridiculous miss for us, he's so so good.
Great analysis James, love the videos. I won't echo the sentiment of the comments because you've read it enough times. Really can't wrap my head around what Man Utd actually try to do in games. Will they ever escape having to counter attack the other big teams?
Those gaps in the midfield were there from the opening game v Wolves, and highlighted by pundits and analysts that evening. Imagine telling them back then that this would STILL be the case as we head towards the end of the season. Shocking
Only goes to prove just how shockingly poor the premier league is that Liverpool have been unable to beat us after 3 attempts this season.
That doesn't prove what you think it does
Whatever helps you sleep better, Ginge 😭
Liverpool strikers were all thinking "this is the goal that wins the league" every time they got near the goal and shit the bed time and time again. The game was too big for quansah which is fair enough given his experience. You could see that pretty early on from his passing
This was a football manager game where you stare at your computer screen and wonder how you didnt win
James, Man United fans are fully aware how much of a shambles their team is at the moment. Their current frustration with content creators and the mainstream media is because the likes of Chelsea and Newcastle aren’t coming under similar fire in spite of similar performances.
Eliot tripped on his own foot and was already going down before he hit Wan Bissaka's leg.
Thank you Wan Bissaka for your unnecessary slide. United had a Million players in the box, there was no way Eliot was scoring that 🤣He saw the slide and took a touch to get the ball away, then he went down. I love that little dude.
Love the JLA tactics board ❤
Not now Jim, not now
if you see the video it's 100% not a penalty. you cant judge that of a still frame
Wasn’t a pen. AWB never actually made contact with Elliot. Elliot puts his foot into AWB’s thigh and falls over him.
When u talk about united there are things that should be discussed about the squad , the attitude of some players are disgusting.
-Bruno always looks for a hollywood pass and does not keep the ball.
- Rashford without goals is useless
- Ageing backline and it's injury concerns
-Casemiro almost lost his intensity
- Wingers not looking for the striker.
- Is it worth keeping McTominay for his goals or sell him for a proper midfielder.
- Ten Hag's shocking substitutions and overdependence on flair players to somehow win the game.
Unless there is a proper clear out this summer no manager can save this team.
Liverpool stopped themselves with giving away a goal and not finishing their chances more than United stopped them, but I like the analysis. And you're right, as a Liverpool fan, it was incredibly frustrating to watch that game when we were so much better and just failed to be effective and clinical.
Just wanna say about the 'attitude' thing about players not tracking back, I think they are knackered due to Ten Hag's system asking them to cover such distances. The system is killing the players, and that's the first time I've said that post-Fergie.
another thing, i think fans should begin to see how this type of play affect our injury problems, forwards pressing without a trigger, which is always running ☠️, defenders always having to be put in 3v3s and 4v4s where opposing attackers are running at them
United being pretty awful is not new news. But taking a ad of screen grabs and drawing lines on them is ridiculously
They didn't stop us. We've got to the top of the table by being purely ruthless but in the past few games, since Jota got injured, we've lost that ruthlessness. Its a worry especially if Jota isnt back by the very next game
Are you watching the South African stream? I see the Discovery and Castle Lite ads 😂
I think the penalty looks like Elliot is trying to initiate contact. But the problem is I don’t see where else he could have planted his foot without standing on wan bissaka
United can’t play a high line with maguire so they just mix it together
Liverpool is shit 😭
This match was a basketball game masquerading as a football match, which Liverpool were more comfortable operating in due to talent gap between the two clubs but Liverpool were playing with their food
How does a team that wants to win PL and UEL, don't win against that?
From 2-3 match ago, I just kinda feel that Liverpool is running on fighting spirit alone... Just on wanting to make a good last season for Klopp...
I love how everyone always talks about eth's plan being awful when Klopps plan was much much worse this game 😂
Cancel me if you want, but the Nunez experience is not effective. Firmino would either make the right pass of finish the attack. Move him on and get a lethal number 9. Scoring goals mitigates a lot of the stress on other areas.
It's crazy how Ten Hag hasn't been able to see this problem and fix it. Its been the same this whole season. Wolves in the first game exposed it. And nothing has changed at all. It doesn't matter who has played. It's clearly his tactics and they are shit
The amount of times I saw MacAllister pass the ball into the midfield with no United player in sight or Szoboszlai dribble centrally with no opposition at all was insane. How do Man Utd fans watch this every week and not go mad??
Liverpool had 90+ agaisnt utd in 3 games and scored 5 man utd scored 6… liverpool inability to finish has come back to haunt them dearly and I love it 😂😂
No matter how good u are if u don't score u don't win games
Manchester United won’t play well but they will bring a team down to their level then try beat them. I couldn’t believe how end to end it was but annoyed that Liverpool even got a point from a clear dive. What is VAR even there for made awful errors yet again this weekend
Its about as blatant a pen as u can get. There is literally 2 moments of contact before elliot goes down not to mention what happens after...
I don’t understand why Quansah didn’t just pass to Kelleher, rather than the riskier pass to van dijk, with GK off his line and 1-0 up
Honestly, united could've gone 3-1 up around the 70th to 80th minute if casemiro was a better passer
The midfield is a mess for utd. Mainoo needs another baller next to him to pass between. But casemiro and bruno both gave the ball away almost every time they touched it
Mainoo was told to stay defensive in the first half and the shackles were taken off in the second.
James, are we in a process to a new style of play with players who can’t play it?
Physically, mentally and with accuracy.
It’s drastically different to Ole, Mourinho.
With better players this would still have issues but they would likely be more energetic, so they close down the issues with this style
We need a rebuild or our entire attack onlt Diaz & Jota worth keeping
Totally agree with you about the tactical structure of this United team. We're constantly caught between a pressing front 5 and a low defensive block and it leaves massive gaps for opponents to counter into. However, I disagree with you that we're the luckiest team in the league. Injuries have decimated this squad, as I know it has for many other teams this season as well. Agree with the Cruyff quote but I also agree with the statement 'at the end of the season, the league table never lies'. This United team have won a lot of points this season from moments of individual quality. This doesn't make us lucky in my opinion but does mean we're unable to push on and create a sustainable way of winning games. We have got to do better.
Yea I cannot fathom thinking we’re a lucky team. We have a penchant for scoring late goals, but that’s part of the clubs tradition… think it’s a little silly to call it luck. We’ve had inarguably the worst injuries of any team this year + Greenwood/Sancho were basically no longer options overnight for various reasons. Our squad has been decimated. Completely agree with his analysis though lol.
We've certainly gotten points out of games due to worldies and moments of brilliance or McTominay somehow scoring a goal or two, but we've also been robbed out points, too. In the past 2 games, we've been robbed of 5 points due to a ref's/VAR mistakenly giving 3 pens that weren't pens. That's not luck or unluck.
@henrybrown9562 100% mate. We aren't an overly lucky team, we're a poorly structured one with some quality players that can get you out of trouble. Can't do that for 38 games though. ten Hag has got to show something else for these last 8 or 9 games.
Man U have quality players who can bury chances. They're setup poorly and have played crap all season but they bury their handful of chances, they've done it all season. They're a very dangerous team to play against, you give them a chance and there is a good possibility they take it. That's the only reason they are 6th.
Hjurman? Hjulmen? Juulman? Human?
Bravo to UTD for scraping a draw out of a game but I did talk to my son about this game saying UTD know how to play chaotic and individually. They play as 11 individuals. hard to plan a game and execute that plan when they play like this....they bring their A game to us because of the 7-0 and 5-0 games previously. They won't play this good for the remainder of the season
Unfortunately despite all united short comings there is only 1 team in the league capable of stopping liverpool, and that is Liverpool themselves. Our own biggest enemy time and time again sadly
great analysis
United using the chaos strategy against the big teams 😂 so it becomes a 50/50
The problem with United is they're caught in two minds. They want to play pressing high up the Field football controlling the game but they don't have the player's to pull it off they have forwards who don't get back defender's who are to slow and midfield who can't control the game or don't work hard enough. Poor recruitment is ten haags biggest down fall.
No need for over analysis, it was literally simply a case of Liverpool forwards not finishing their dinner.
Our 20 year old third choice defender made a terrible mistake, our most clinical finisher was injured, and our other forwards were wasteful, there i fixed it for you.
Curtis Jones infuriates me at times.
Last 10 + OT especially.
He can NOT pass a ball, he hugs it until someone takes it off him, which usually don’t take long.
And he does this WAY too often.
Havey was much more of a gamechanger.
You can’t come into this game when we’re down and try to be fancy. Pass the ball!
Bad decision-making cost us the 3 points. Boz had 2 great chances, Nunez and Salah too. Another day, we'd be 6 up at half time. Funny ol'game! Stil plenty of football to go...
Utd didn't stop Liverpool. They just didn't finish their chances.
Huleman up top for United is an absolute menace
I’m starting to think there is a conspiracy. 15mins here, 10mins of Carra on MNF…just pointing at the hole in MF but not the man who causes it, Harry Maguire. With Harry in the back line the defence cannot step up. But ‘this is Man United’ so we aren’t allowed to sit in a low block owners, fans and definitely the loudest voices in the punditry and internet tacticos such as yourself (see analysis and punditry after 0-0 @ Anfield). Apart from United fans, only Loz is willing to point this out, why?
In the summer just gone, Maguire accepts a pay cut to join West Ham (fee had been agreed), ETH can get a back up CB who fits the system, more in the mould of Martinez. There just wouldn’t be this nonsense narrative that a world class coach can’t coach.
i want mainoo at arsenal - partey replacement, mainoo, rice & odegaard
liverpool are their own worst enemy this season, United didn't do shit, this was a bottlejob 💀💀💀
Nah bottlejob is when you shrink and die. This was just wank finishing
Love the tactical analysis from James but this was at best 10% on United and 90% on p*ss poor chance conversion and bad last passes in the Box. Liverpool stopped Liverpool yesterday... Mainoo has massive potential, though
Liverpool's strike force ain't good enough. Diaz and Nunez are too nervy in front of goal. Lots and Salah are class finishers but Salah is off since returning from injury and obviously Lots is out with injury.
Liverpool seem to panic against the big clubs, theyre bottom of the big 6 mini league, not the mentality monster they were once thought as
liverpool were absolutely awful in front of goal today. they really let united get away with a point. also, bruno was TERRIBLE. his goal from nothing does not overshadow his hoofball/hero ball shenanigans. united as a whole looked rattled. zero compsure in the whole team while leading, and their clearances never went past the halfway line
There is excellent analysis here, along all the usual lines, but what I wonder is this - the evidence is that ETH can coach. Additional to his Ajax record, there is his first season at MU where, aside from the minor matter of the Ronaldo and Sancho crises and the whole Glazer business, he won a trophy in his first season and dragged an incoherent squad up to third in the EPL and the final of the FA Cup and finals of Europa. It isn't as though he just took over a side that was humming and had been winning everything before he arrived. He has a better record over his first 100 games in England and Wales than Klopp, Guardiola, Fergie (actually not so hard - Fergie's first 3 seasons were pretty hair-raising).
So, the easy step is to critique what the side is doing. Everyone is doing that. Is the real story not in trying to work out 'why' the side has the shape it has this season?
A stat that intrigues me is that the shots on goal are very close despite the gap in attempted shots being terrifying - usually about 45 billion against and a handful for. The XG is always just as horrendous. Might there not be something to investigate in that? When I am looking at a case for a client, I am trying to find the most likely narrative based on the facts and evidence (not the emotion), so that I can build a case for my client that is as close to that as the facts and evidence permit. I look for the facts and evidence that run counter to the obvious and that seem to be hard to explain. That is where the case can be won or lost.
I am not an expert in soccer/football. I played it as a kid and have followed MU since 1977. However, I get more from other sports - not an attempt to downplay the biggest game in the world, just a statement equivalent to saying I prefer one type of music over another. I can't bring a deep level of analysis to a sport that is not a primary interest. But, surely the fact that a squad depleted by injury in the very area that is central to what ETH did at Ajax (the defenders, playing out from the back) and with so many other easily identified issues, plays this way and defeats a Liverpool side twice in a row, when that side has lost very few games, despite a huge shots on goal and XG differential is where the real story might lie?
The alternative is that ETH is an idiot/out of his depth etc. That MU are bogus etc. That it is all just dumb luck. But are Liverpool and Klopp really that passive and average? All possible, but somehow it seems unpersuasive, when weighed against facts and evidence and that stat which seems so hard to explain.
There is a saying in military circles that an organised, coherent withdrawal is far harder than a sweeping offensive movement; that cutting your cloth to what is available is harder than doing the expected, the orthodox. Maybe, maybe not. You and others have the expertise if you care to take the extra step. Maybe you have and I am not literate enough to read it. At any rate, an enjoyable analysis and I thank you for the time taken on it.
And, yes, the AWB penalty was clear, as was the Dalot one the week before. Not because I wanted them to be penalties (I really didn't), but because if you present that picture to a referee, it would be strange indeed if they did not award it. We live in the world that is, not what we might want it to be.
He falls before the contact, if that was Jesus I swear people would go nuts saying its a simulation 😂
This liverpool side is reminding me of arsenal at the december era. So wasteful in term of finishing chances and so bad at conceding silly goals
60 injuries (most in prem history)
31 different back lines used
1st team used for 60 mins only
But everyone is blaming eth for not beating everyone.
Last 3 games we were leading goign into extra time. Yet the shit mentality and low iq from the player he has to play who are all backups make stupid mistakes.
ETH is defo not immune to criticism but people have been on hos neck since day 2 with G nev and cara interrogating him after brentford in year 1. Ever since then the screaming has never stopped.
I trust eth. Rather him then all the other managers available. The amount of players who have had their best season under eth is crazy. Rashford, wan bissaka, dalot, maguire, luke shaw all have had their best united season under ETH. Not only that he has been perfect with our youth. Bedding in garnacho for his nearly 40th consecutive start, mainoo killing it and kambwala looking really good.
I mean ffs 4 of our players in the 1st team were under 21 and 3 players on the bench were under 21. He is great with the youth.
More james united hating. This isnt ETH fault. Its the same shit every year for the last 6. No structure and the midfield does what it wants.