From 1ST ROUND QB PROSPECT to BENCHED (What Went Wrong for Tyler Van Dyke?)
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- čas přidán 8. 07. 2024
- Many people were calling Tyler Van Dyke the best QB to come through Miami and decades after he lit up the end of the 2021 season. He was going to save the program and looked to be a future franchise QB as well. Sadly, its been a terrible 2022 season for him, he was recently benched and his draft stock is gone, what went wrong? Enjoy!
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TVD has to transfer. NO QB has looked good under Cristobal. It's not his fault. Gattis is terrible too.
As an Oregon fan i can say that Mario Cristobal is a great recruiter, very good at developing o-lines, & a solid overall HC. That said, he left a lot to be desired when it came to offensive explosiveness. He's very much married to a ground & pound run first concept. And there's not necessarily anyyhing wrong with that but many Duck fans will tell u that his QBs at Oregon struggled under him & his OC hires. Justin Herbert being the exception - was a QBb he inherited(& actually just kinda fell in the Ducks lap as he was a preferred walk on from a local high school) & most feel his production was stifled under Mario. After Herbert graduated, his successor(Tyler Shough) was very up & down in his only season as a starter with Oregon & ended up taking a backseat to transfer Anthony Brown by season's end. Brown would go on to start the next year & really struggle in the passing game(although his running ability did pay some dividends in Cristobal's offense).
So i guess i'm not all that surprised that Miami's offense hasn't looked that good so far this season. But i do believe Cristobal will put a solid product on the field in Coral Gables. Just give it some time.
@@the503creepout7 I agree with everything you've said. Cristobal wants a dual threat QB. And, it seems he prefers a running threat over a passing threat at QB. Well, he inherited a guy with limited running ability who has an NFL arm in Van Dyke. The good coaches adapt their philosophy to their personnel. Hence why Saban is so good. Also, why Lane Kiffin can do more with less at Ole Miss and have success. Cristobal is starting to remind me a lot of Will Muschamp who is a stellar DC but as a head coach the guy is an offense killer. Cristobal better hope Miami stays in the ACC because if they move to the SEC or Big 10 he will be exposed more than he has already. And, with the transfer rules kids aren't going to sit around while a coach figures it out. Kids rightfully will leave for schools that suit their skills.
@@kamala80 the SEC or Big 10? Lmao. ACC will expose any coach too, just as easily the SEC, let alone the Big 10 😂😭 the conference with Ohio State, Michigan and no one else
@@bradenm3 Iowa, Wisconsin and Penn State are all respectable programs. Also, Penn State is a blue blood program.
You right but TVD also just looked off, he miss a lot of wide open throws as well
It's alarming how a TVD went from Heisman hopeful to being benched. I don't think it's the player. The system change maybe? New coach? Don't know but unfortunately Cristobal is now on the clock. Here we go again...
Cristobal on the clock? Nah
Cristobal was very good at limiting Justin Herbert at Oregon, Mario is the only commonality between the two situations.
Im at every home game. There should be no reason you are over throwing 6'5 guys on a 10 yard out route he literally did this 3 times Saturday on easy completions. SMU showed bad signs, not going through his reads and staring down his hot route. He worked much better in Lashleys offense because it was quick pick n pop ball if the hot route isnt there simply dump it off or throw away. He doesnt step into his throws anymore either. IDK what went wrong possibly let the hype get to him?? Who knows SMH
He was a product of the system.
@@michaelcraig1691Mario's system won't produce anything close to that. QB's play and OC's coach with one hand tied behind their back.
If he transfers, Kentucky might be a good transfer spot for him. We’ll need a new QB next year and the young receiving talent should be appealing.
Mario Cristobal manage to make Justin Herbert look horrible
Same with Anthony Brown
@@WinTheDayDucks Lol well for ironically he goes with of all teams the ravens and looks a lot better passing
Yeah no matter who the OC is, Cristobal’s finger prints are all over the offensive strategy. It’s bland and puts his QBs in predictable passing spots.
Exactly that him throwing nothing but bubble screens and mid range passes as if he had a weak arm 😂
lol this is cap I’m sorry but Anthony Brown, yes
I’ll bet he transfers out. When programs change coaches they often change or implement their own system instead of seeing what works with what’s on hand. New coaches and OC’s can improve or wreck a team in a heartbeat. That seems to be why they come and go so frequently. I could never figure out why they never adapt or try too adapt to the talent on hand.
I hope he gets another shot (TVD that is). I can’t help look at him and think this could be Johnny Manziel 2.0. Hope that’s not the case but as I was watching this, JM came to mind a lot.
TVD has 0 in common with Johnny Manziel besides being a white guy😂
@@alexe727 I hope not its just some of the images and the high expectations give me Johnny Football flashbacks.
If they bench him 4 games in he should transfer and Rashada should decommit. He’s proven more as a Miami player than any of the coaches have as Miami coaches. You don’t bail on anyone 4 games into a season.
He should just enter the draft. There are always QB needy teams and hes at least better than most back ups already.
He's gino torretta part 2
Wow that was quick. 👍👏 Great video Scott Fisher.
I think Longo can revive his career. We're excited to have him come to Madison
You’re gonna learn, watch and see lol 😂
@@Hollywood-vu7cf Well, he's in a tight battle for the starting position with Locke. I'll be happy with whomever wins the battle.
Thanks for all the videos.
What's ruining him? Two words: Josh Gattis.
Oregons offense struggled heavily under Cristobal. Power football is his brand and he is willing to die by it.
It’s not Gattis, it’s Mario
Stop hating on Gattis. TVD is missing throws and showing no emotion. But that’s Gattis fault. Lmao!
Cristobal would turn ryan day into brady hoke
You got that right
Future SMU starting quarterback Tyler Van Dyke 🐴🆙
I honestly think so too. Why not follow lashley? It worked for him last year
That means Preston Stone gonna transfer outta SMU. Van Dyke to SMU makes sense at this point
He’ll tear it up there. He’s built for that system. It’s a very simple system…you read and react. He killed it at Miami under Lashlee.
I wondered about this dude. Thanks for the vid.
As a Miami fan we are all in shock. The guy was Amazing last year under Lashly. He made Kenny Pickett look average last year when he played against PITT. Watch the highlights the guy was on 🔥. He lost Rambo and Harley and that has been much bigger than we all assumed. Gattis is a Bad fit for Miami. Michigan fans warned us. We didn’t listen.
Hi, I'm a Wisconsin Badger, and we just picked up TVD in the portal. Our OC, Phil Longo, just implemented an "air raid" offense this year like the one he ran in NC and Ole Miss. I hope TVD goes back to his glory days!
QBs and WRs should really avoid Mario Cristobal teams. Crazy to see the offensive difference between my Ducks this year and the last few years
How did that Ducks offense look vs UGA? Let’s let some weeks go by before we pass judgment on how amazing Oregon is and how terrible Miami is. First year staffs have wild up and downs…its the excuse I made for Oregon after UGA gang raped them on the 59 yard line. Today Miami is trash and Oregon is amazing…2 1/2 weeks ago it was the opposite.
@@adam-thesportsguy6147 We can pass judgment because we watched our offense the last few years look like absolute garbage. Ya we looked bad against Georgia but what team hasn’t ?
Why don't they pick a uniform
@@adam-thesportsguy6147 what about now ?
Should transfer to SMU to reunite with Rhett Lashlee. Gattis' offense is not explosive and fast enough for the modern CFB game.
He transferred to the Badgers with Phil Longo the God father of the Air raid offense where he thrives. Heisman trophy potential next season. crown his ass now.
I agree with the coaching staff changes as well as the WR not stepping up to help. I hate to see this for him, but I am optimistic. I think that he can turn this thing around. Da U🌪🖐🏿🤚🏿💚🧡🌴
Whats the background song you use for these videos it slaps lmfao
Good video
Being from Windsor Locks, CT the town literally next door to Suffield. I never heard jack about either player you mentioned.
Lmao
Who should I do next?
Anthony Richardson
Spencer Petras or Ryan Hilinski
Tanner McGee
The Rise of UNLV
@@kanagawa85 UNLV's rise is related to the Van Dyke video. Marcus Arroyo is scoring a lot of points at UNLV but at Oregon when he was OC they didn't score a lot. Why? Cristobal.
More than a dozen top D1 programs will line up for him if TVD enters transfer portal
Welcome to Wisconsin. Good luck kid.
Thanks Gattis
Do a vid on Louisville
It’s okay.. Jacurri Brown will be the starting Quarterback for the U soon.. #11 Jacurri Brown is Miami BEST QB.. He will bring Miami back to a winning program! Mark my words!
“You where the chosen one!” Obi wann 😂😂😂
Go NOLES!!!
Update vid?
Miami should have hired Butch Davis and not the clown we got now.
I already heard multiple 23” recruits are switching schools and two are 5X
Been saying it since golden we should hire Butch Davis
The only thing wrong last year was the poor play of the o Line.
1000% support to Hurricane Tyler Van Dyke, you will see him shine again. BIG TIME. MIAMI Hurricane QB1 !
Mario Cristobal next question
The damn OC was trash 🗑, so damn happy Mario cleaned house! New OC not going to make it was easy to make reads & go!
Still not sure…..
Why ANYONE thinks that a former PAC-12 coach who had unlimited Nike money, top-tier facilities and a team full of talent - but couldn’t take Oregon to the next level - was going to somehow revive a private school with none of the same caliber of money/facilities, and do anything positive.
Well he has a billionaire brother in law who wants to build them a stadium and also spends NIL money like candy. He also won a rose bowl out out a few 1st rounders and it was in bad taggert shape when he got there. Utah did man handle his team every time they played. Idk what happened there lol Herbert should of been sooo much better so that's obviously gonna be a huge problem. He needs to bring in an OC that's also a Qb whisperer and played big time ball. Gattis is a stubborn baby and ponce has him looking at every receiver until the corner gets there then he throws it. The timing is all off, alot not on him tho
That TAMU game was the first I head and seen of Van and I was this guy is a first round pick? Guess when he transfers we can see him in a new system and see him try to live up to that hype.
It’s not TVD, it’s the new OC who has no idea
Bet he transfers and shines wherever he goes...
Two words. Mario Cristobal.
You can blame the coaching staff all you want but if you can’t throw to a receiver that’s within 10 yards, who fault is it really?
Exactly. As a Miami fan who actually has watched all of our games fully. I can tell you the man isn’t even completing screen passes. He’s missing open receivers on corner routes. He’s inaccurate at the red zone. And the same receivers who dropped his balls managed to catch most of Garcias balls in the same game. I personally think it boils down to his skill as a qb and the receivers having confidence in their qb. And rn there’s neither
He’s got an overpaid recruiter for a coach. Preaches toughness but when it comes to decision making he fails very time.
I'd agree with that.
He should transfer to Florida Atlantic. At least they can compete with Middle Tennessee and Louisiana Tech consistently 😂.
I hope they don't bench him, Miami still has a punchers shot at the ACC crown and a NY6 Bowl. If he can somehow figure it out; he can still rise his draft stock.
need a luther burden video
What went wrong/what will happen to TVD?
I would think that he would enter the Transfer Portal.
what went wrong was Rehett Lashlee leaving smh, Josh Gattis and Frank Pounce are changing something just because he's going to the pros his mechanics around, his hips and feet look so out of sync while Michigan is #19 in total offense while Miami is #46 smells like Josh Gattis (best coordinator in 2021🙄) was all smoke no flame👎👎
Gattis/Receivers
It’s not Gattis. Our starting QB was playing like shii. Are guys blind? Why you think the fans at HardRock cheering for Garcia.
@@ricorashid1700 are you blind? Them vanilla ass plays literally only coming out in "double tight sets" foh✋🤣 Gattis is definitely at fault also need to bring his ass down from the both back to the sideline.
Two problems, Gattis was the biggest and Restrepo. Had eyes locked on him too much.
If he transfers it’s going to be to SMU. Seems like the easiest answer.
He's a badger now, should do fine
I’m A Oregon and Miami Fan I really think Mario does have some say into the play calling but I really think the OC he picks aren’t setup for QB to perform
Morrhead has a history of throwing the ball. MC put a leash on him.
Do you think that those guys are trying to return to vintage Miami football ?.
I think MC’s ego won’t let him allow the OC to do their job.
What went from hero to zero. New OC and head coach..
This is a 3 rd and 4th OC ..
Oregon Fan here. It’s Mario Cristobal. We had 2 different coordinators under his tenure that were underwhelming. His influence is all over the offense. Herbert didn’t even look like one of the best QBs in a bad PAC 12. Mario plays old school football and nothing will change. Oregon consistently played down to inferior opponents skill level all while bringing in three Top 10 recruiting classes in a row. Trust me, it’s not your OC. Mario has a vice grip over his program. He’s a phenomenal recruiter but can’t develop talent.
Yeah it has to be... Herbert didnt look like anything special at Oregon.
Is it me or does he looks like Jason Witten?
It's you
It’s pretty hard to win without a running back
Do you guys think Van Dyke will end up being another Justin Herbert under Cristobal?
you mean being a FIRST ROUND PICK in the NFL, hell yeah why not ! ? That would be awesome.! Mario DID AWESOME with HERBERT ! An NFL 1st ROUND PICK! WAOO!
@@RR-tl3cz A lot of Oregon fans actually think he didn’t do a great job with Herbert.
@@stanleyfontaine25 he did horrible with Herbert. Herbert looked very mediocre at Oregon. Then as soon as he got to the NFL he looked completely different.
This offense is not the RPO/ Spread offense that Lashley’s was. It does not accentuate what TVD was good at. TVD also does not have a go-to receiver since Xavier Restrepo got hurt. Those two factors equal a bad combination. Hopefully, during the off-week the coaches incorporated things TVD does well as well as scheme way to get the receivers wide-open looks.
TVD had too much hype. Our fanbase wants to win so bad that we get blind. TVD needs to adjust with new scheme as well the coaches need adjust to the player. But missing throws and showing no emotions is not about the offensive scheme.
Nope. MC is a QB killer. He leashed Herbert. All you need to know.
It has to be the new system. How could TVD look so hood last season and totally out of sync this year. His skill set must not mesh with Josh Gattis’ offense, and Gattis probably doesn’t want to modify the offense to fit his personnel.
Perhaps TVD sees that Gattis may prefer Garcia to run his offense and it has hampered his confidence. Combine a bad scheme fit and confidence issues with himself and/or the staff, equals an early exit to the transfer portal for TVD. He has talent but needs the right fit schematically to excel.
You make some good points. But there will be scheme changes at pro level as well do you blame the NFL coaches for TVD throwing struggles.
@@ricorashid1700 Coaches in the NFL adapt to their personnel. Mario and his staff doesn't want to do that. That's why Mario won't win jack.
Cristobol can not develop qbs if you’re a o line man go to him but that’s it
Personally I don’t think it’s his fault. He was use to a system at the end of the season last year and then the team decides to fire everyone hire new coaches that’s a lot to take in. I hope he transfers and shines wherever he goes. (Except Xichigan 😂)
You hire coaches to help bring out the best in your players and that is what is not happening to this kid. As much as people talk shit about Riley and Grinch... SC's defense is much better than the other defenses they had. I say he should transfer
A good QB can play in any system.
Any ??, notice what my user name is !!.
He was screwed. Never understood they entire hype around him.
I don't want to talk about it. I'm still traumatized from the game!😪
TVD plays pro style. JG is horrible and is ruining TVD’s talent 😂
I want the giants to draft him
I still think TVD is legit I really believe the new run bad offense has messed him up he is a phenomenal pro style QB period a team that uses lots of spread will gladly take or try to get Tyler the world last year seen what he can do and I hate this so far this season isn't working like I said I still think he is for real but he has to be used in better situations/offense to succeed he will be great with the right offense hands down maybe the coaches will start doing things to use him better we will see any team would love to have TVD. GO Canes!!!
He has that pro demeanor
The OC needs to get TVD in to rhythm with play calling instead of run run pass. The play calling is so obvious. He is not made for this system. Wide receivers are pissed too.
First of all, Van Dyke IS STILL the starting QB at Miami. He is our great QB and is just getting in synch with a new scheme and NEW WRs that were dropping the ball and just now are beginning to get it right. Last game Ladson and B. Smith were more in synch with him. Progress is being done. Gattis and him and the WRs just all have to mesh and all have to practice more and execute better. Josh Gattis needs to improve his play design and incorporate some of what worked last year.
Todd centaio video please
Jake Garcia might be a better fit for the system. But TVD has more talent
Miami's receivers have the skillset of Tuscon Culinary Arts VoTech
Miami's O- line rivals Miami Dade Community College Intramural team
Actually, you did make one error, here ... Last year, Jake Garcia had beaten out Van Dyke
but Garcia went out with an injury. There were questions about who might be better.
However, the way Van Dyke performed last year, he was going to be the obvious starter.
*edit PS: never listen to Mel Kiper. TVD is not very mobile. He was never touted to be.*
Nobody remembers that.
@@srygler50 = Unfortunately, too. Because people keep talking about Van Dyke as though he was always the heir apparent.
@@Jaems_Scott he was a good qb last year but if you listen to the video his hs years he had 2 d1 receivers. Then he gets here and has 3 really good receivers last year. But now he doesn't and he's not accurate. He's not good at reading, he's a 1st option and drop down type of qb. He is very similar to Joe burrow in that regard, when you have better receivers it works.
*You are definitely correct* , when he mentioned Mel Kiper's name I laughed .
I never thought he was that good or he would’ve beat king out
Freshman never come in and just take a long time vets job. Trevor Lawrence is the only guy who has done that. Van Dyke is at worst an NFL backup
He should stay might not have success at another school, they need to change him back to the scheme he was good at. Better workouts with Rbs
RPO didn't work at Oregon and it will not work at Miami either.
You mean pro style offense…. That’s what Miami is running and the rpo is what Miami ran last year with lashlee
Now Miami is in a dilemma. Do they let their talented QB transfer, or do they try and figure out a way to get the offense clicking again?
As a Miami fan, we’re going to screw ourselves.
They signed 3 4 star wide receivers just in 2021 but they have a bad WR squad?? Miami the only team with more talent than 90% of the other teams and is always overrated and always underperforms
Their receivers can’t seem to make big plays.
not saying they dont have talent but all i have heard the past few months is none have stepped up, should have clairifed
Talent and production are completely different.
As a die hard Canes fan since the early 90s... I've seen both ends of the spectrum. Utter domination and utter disappointment. Sadly things like this have become the new norm for my Hurricanes. Whether it be a key injury, a tough loss, a loss to a lower team, or players not playing to the level needed...ever since the talks of shutting down the football team after "the punishment" we endured from the NCAA, we just can't get right. There has been several times that we've looked really good for a stretch and then the above mentioned negatives happen. Our last championship came when I was 18...and I'd like nothing more than to see at least one more before I die. It's all about the U...go Canes!
FSU alumni here, I fucking hate Miami since I was capable of understanding hate, and I hate to see ya'l down like this. College football is better when UM FSU and UF are all scary.
Why did you get rid of Coker ??
@@WISHBONEL7 Coker didn't really do anything, he inherited a dominant team from Butch ...the title they won under Coker should really be credited to Butch.
@@bradenm3 I totally agree... football is just better when the FLA teams are playing good ball. Y'all will probably be back before we are sadly, we can't stop playing musical chairs with our head coaches
@@bizzlea887 I'm still struggling with firing Manny. Cristobal is definitely good but...idk just seemed hasty.
it's obvious this Gattis guy is ruining TVD he ran the spread in offense IN high school as the majority of quarterbacks in football at any level today Gattis said he'd adapt to what the players on the roster do best that was obviously a lie Gattis is overrated as well as Cristobal they spent all that money only to regress a heisman hopeful as well as the rest of the team because as the quarterback goes so does the team as much as I love Miami for the sake of TVD I would love to see him transfer to SMU to realign with Lashlee and go pro and make Gattis look like a damn fool. the way it's going Rashada is gona decommit based on this stupid offense. not to boot we could see guys like Romello Brinson and Brashard Smith transfer because guys wanna showcase their skills not be forced under a dictator like regime to just run what they say sure Smith had a key drop. what about the silly plays Gattis has called?
If Garcia was healthy it was a tossed up btw him or vandyke
nah Garcia is ass. Van Dyke is at worst an NFL backup
Go Noles.
What went wrong is that Van Dyke was overrated and Cristobal is still highly overrated.
He should transfer and go back East. Maybe Syracuse, Maryland or even Delaware. Seem like he was a little overrated coming out of High school. I mean he’s from Connecticut! Not many great football players coming out of there. The competition probably wasn’t much
he competed against d1 recruits in every game playing in the New England Prep School league
Should of kept Diaz lol. He wouldn't of hired Josh freaking gattis lol.
Next vid Drake Maye UNC QB darkhorse Heisman candidate 💯
Garcia was King's backup but he broke his ankle so TVD was given the job. Garcia is a lot more mobile, and can throw on the run. Garcia's ceiling is a lot higher and he is better suited for this offense. In addition, TVD has a habit of staring down his receiver which was a disaster in the loss to Middle Tennessee.
no TVD was not given the job, he earned it ! TVD was better and more matured than Garcia at the time and TVD EARNED IT ! He is a great QB and he can turn this around, 1000% support to Tyler Van Dyke and you will see him shine again. BIG TIME.
@@RR-tl3cz I don't think TVD can run this offense. Check the Spring game in 2021 and see what Manny Díaz said about who was the backup for King last year. TVD and Garcia were neck and neck and Garcia was slightly ahead when he broke his ankle on a 50 yard run in the game that they were both auditioning for. They both looked good for Garcia was slightly better.
lol Garcia is ass. Youll see soon
Miami can't even beat Middle Tennessee! How Pathetic!! 😂😂😂 Kansas State might be a good "no where" place to stick him. Martinez will need to be replaced.
Jalon Daniels
Welp that just leaves Will Levis to be the next Zach Wilson. Anthony Richardson and Van Dyke have struggled too much.
Richardson was injured against Kentucky and USF he was great again against Tennessee
@@bossboy5970 he wasnt injured he played. Also he was good vs tenesee if he was great they would of won
@@bossboy5970 Richardson has NFL backup written all over him. Hes not a NFL starter. Van Dyke has a chance but hes also probably a backup.
Put all of the negative attention on TVD instead of the weak ass pathetic defense, seems logical...
Cristobal run run pass offense stinks. Miami has good athletes at the skill position he refuses to get the ball too in space. The game has passed him by thats why the players quit on him.
Dude got to lax
Wrong....Garcia was the backup.....got hurt
Tyler Van Martell
I hope you are a miami fan
But lost to the better qb at Florida State. Go Noles
Knew this was coming. 7/10 of these random QBs every year with hype get benched or just don’t live up at all
Its not him. Its Miami 100%
I love seeing them lose , nasty fans, GO NOLES
This video was prematurely made… he had one bad season and you make this bs . SMH. His career at Miami is not even over yet… smh. You could have waited till when he no longer in Miami or no longer in the NCAA…
He bought too much into the hype. Not his coaches. Him. I also don't think he's great at running the RPO
Miami needs to hire Mike Leach!!!!!
Fsu will take em..for a 3rd string💪🤣🤟🏼🤟🏼
His receivers should be the main blame
Gambling ?