Wow, that is an epic fail for these coins, especially at that premium. Too bad that they couldn't think through this process. I ran into the same thing with the high relief elephant which I'll be posting soon. Shame on them. Thanks for sharing and for the warning.
Yet another reason I have steered clear of what could have been an epic coin release. I guess that is what happens when a bullion mint tries to do a collector coin with no real experience? I love my gold 2 rands and my 1/4 ounce gold krug, but I have been dissappointed with the silver release from the initial pricing issues to the shipping issues. Thanks for the heads up!
I have noticed that you weren't happy with the packaging of the coins and stated that the South African mint will have to get their act together when sending the coins in a proper way. Have seen who runs the country they don't give a shit about anything never mind how to send your coins in a proper way. Good luck with that one.
Michael Roberts? I am in awe of your intellectual capacity to completely sum just about anything up with such a concise yet organic command of the written word. I have encountered this once before at a facility researching the adult academic genius. I am restricted from discussing it, but basically the subject would write down a description of several unknown artefacts, to be translated into dead languages. The point is that his word skills were so profound and artistically precise, that everyone knew what he was describing in any language. But you remind me of an anonymous teenage savant from Cuba. He could recite poetry in any made-up non existent random language as well as a series of unnatural sounds and flamboyant gestures. (he was on Ripley's) The fascinating thing is that any audience of any age group knew exactly what he was saying word for word when asked to write down the entire poem. I am going to be so embarrassed if it turns out that you are him!
My 1oz Britannia that I bought from the Rm arrived as your Kruger rand out side of the capsule it was also in a non screw one i haven't looked to see if it has been damaged yet luckily the rest of the set were fine,but if some had of come loose there would definitely been damage to them,all the others had a foam inset the 1oz coin never and the capsule was way too big for the coin ,they really need to get back to the screw capsules or have to deal with untold returned damaged coinage
Always a shame when packaging is shoddy and although these are hot right now. not for me. did see one sell at auction on sunday for almost £240. dunno what the original price point was on release but just don't meet my criteria right now.
Numistacker this is also a common problem with the 5oz proof Pandas... You have to fill the box with bubble wrap to keep the coin in the slot... Shipping internationally is a bumpy ride... I've had several Pandas arrive the same way and one even had a broken/chipped capsule. (I don't have to tell you how hard it is to find a genuine 5oz capsule)
S. African mint didn't prepare well with these coins. bad packaging, wrong size air tite. I wouldn't send coins that jiggled inside the Air tite during shipment.
Interesting that yours arrived without the sealed plastic wrapper here. Bit dubious. I have my own thoughts on why that is. I look forward to seeing the grades returned for these.
I bought 2 of these, not proofs, but just 2017 South African Silver Krugerrand Coin 1 oz | Gem Premium Uncirculated, from SD bullion for 47.49 a piece with free shipping. Lowest price I have found on these
id love to be master of the mint ...production line manager at a mint....the royal mint.... id be brutal in making sure every aspect of production from engraver to packer, to designer ...even the cleaners.......making sure every single person took pride in their work ....or else lol
Wow that's a shame. Because I was looking into the kruggerand as my next coin to save for. I lust for the 1oz proof but I may have to re think. Thanks gents.
silver and gold Portugal ...the silver coins normally are in gold however the silver coins are for the 50th birtday of the Kruger gold...silver is ones of ever
This is so sad, I just ordered one of these and seems the packaging is worse than even a Canadian 1oz Sabre tooth proof - which is more than likely going to spot up ;)
I saw these when they were under £100 and now they are selling for £130 plus and more, I just can't justify it, I realise they'll be popular but can't see it maintaining its price with spots and bad packaging apparent, I may also eat my words time will tell
If you look on American eBay you'll find out it's not the first pres of the cougar silver Krugerrand they came out 5 6 Years Ago by some unknown source again and it looks exactly the same don't differences to date has been changed my advice would be to stay away from these unless you have money to throw out the window
very poor from the s.a. mint, stunning coin, let down with cheap low budget packaging. ...one thing the royal mint are very good at is the design of the packaging. why make a beautiful coin, for a customer, a beautiful coin too....then skip corners on the packaging?.....makes no sense lol......like cheap nasty washing up liquid...no value. great video
i can't ever condone the purchase of coins 'proof' over 'BU'. Silver is so cheap, why pay so much for a shiny coin (premium proof) when you can get the normal bu ones and juggle them in your silk pocket?!
Numi I think the pressure in the cabin of a plane pops off these capsules
Thank you for the heads up!
Wendy Mcclain pleasure Wendy
I'm expecting one of these soon. It should be interesting to see how it arrives. Thank you for the info Numistacker.
Thats exactly how mine arrived, luckily not a blemish on the coin, must be a superb quality coin for all of them to survive any kind of damage
I suspect just luck but they really need to do better on a premium coin.
Thank you for the vid Numistacker! I prefer the premium uncirculated myself over the proof. Got me two of the PU.
A piece of foam in the box over the coin capsule would help
John A definitely would do. I was very surprised by this.
Wow, that is an epic fail for these coins, especially at that premium. Too bad that they couldn't think through this process. I ran into the same thing with the high relief elephant which I'll be posting soon. Shame on them. Thanks for sharing and for the warning.
SalivateMetal it wouldn't take too much to do a good job so I can only think this is lazy stuff on the part of the SAMint or just a mistake.
What's again I have to add come up with the most interesting amazing Coins you should open up your own coin shop lol
Hi there just have a question I have got myself a proof silver kruggerand and just wondering should there be 3 coa in the box
Yet another reason I have steered clear of what could have been an epic coin release. I guess that is what happens when a bullion mint tries to do a collector coin with no real experience? I love my gold 2 rands and my 1/4 ounce gold krug, but I have been dissappointed with the silver release from the initial pricing issues to the shipping issues. Thanks for the heads up!
whats your thoughts on the shakespeare 50 pound coin couldnt find the mintage before just said limited but now the mint says 15000 were minted
Hey there how many silver and gold ounces is your total stack now? Just wondering
I have noticed that you weren't happy with the packaging of the coins and stated that the South African mint will have to get their act together when sending the coins in a proper way. Have seen who runs the country they don't give a shit about anything never mind how to send your coins in a proper way. Good luck with that one.
Michael Roberts? I am in awe of your intellectual capacity to completely sum just about anything up with such a concise yet organic command of the written word. I have encountered this once before at a facility researching the adult academic genius. I am restricted from discussing it, but basically the subject would write down a description of several unknown artefacts, to be translated into dead languages. The point is that his word skills were so profound and artistically precise, that everyone knew what he was describing in any language. But you remind me of an anonymous teenage savant from Cuba. He could recite poetry in any made-up non existent random language as well as a series of unnatural sounds and flamboyant gestures. (he was on Ripley's) The fascinating thing is that any audience of any age group knew exactly what he was saying word for word when asked to write down the entire poem.
I am going to be so embarrassed if it turns out that you are him!
@@nevillegregson348 , Oh My........
do I send in capsule to be graded or bubble? beware of eBay side offers paid for 2 recieved one.
what do you charge for grading?
My 1oz Britannia that I bought from the Rm arrived as your Kruger rand out side of the capsule it was also in a non screw one i haven't looked to see if it has been damaged yet luckily the rest of the set were fine,but if some had of come loose there would definitely been damage to them,all the others had a foam inset the 1oz coin never and the capsule was way too big for the coin ,they really need to get back to the screw capsules or have to deal with untold returned damaged coinage
I am in an email dialog with the mint about this. They say they’re making packing improvements to avoid this kind of damage in transit...
great info
I'll just look at these coins under the glass case. when they get to be affordable I'll check it out.
sweet coin. waiting for mine
I have P70 P69 P67 together with some other lower grades.. all first adition for sale..all been graded in the US directly from S.A. MINT.
I returned mine this week,hopefully with replacement,suggested bubble wrapping
it's not just mcm doing the outlandish coin prices, it's everyone!
I agree the packaging is ugly but I must admit, my capsule is firmly sealed and tightly in place.
They just need a little pad in there to make it tighter inside so there's no room for it to come apart!
I’ll count myself lucky, mine arrived in the airtite without any issues.
I Invested in every Kruggerand minted in 2017 except for the 5 and 50oz. Gold. Mine was loose too.
COOINZ!
I agree with you. When I buy a premium coin I expect premium packaging. I pack items I sell better than the SA Mint...sad!
Do you have a counter-part in the States that is available for grading? thanks
Italian G best bet in the USA is to join ANA and that gives you NGC submission rights.
Always a shame when packaging is shoddy and although these are hot right now. not for me. did see one sell at auction on sunday for almost £240. dunno what the original price point was on release but just don't meet my criteria right now.
It's more than Likely as it was sent vibration being thrown around etc...
Numistacker this is also a common problem with the 5oz proof Pandas... You have to fill the box with bubble wrap to keep the coin in the slot... Shipping internationally is a bumpy ride... I've had several Pandas arrive the same way and one even had a broken/chipped capsule. (I don't have to tell you how hard it is to find a genuine 5oz capsule)
S. African mint didn't prepare well with these coins. bad packaging, wrong size air tite. I wouldn't send coins that jiggled inside the Air tite during shipment.
MrVegiita they failed but I hope they learn. On the bright side of 5,000 are scratched then the good ones will be worth a premium
wagner1va yup
Oh my God, its Vegitta!
Interesting that yours arrived without the sealed plastic wrapper here. Bit dubious. I have my own thoughts on why that is.
I look forward to seeing the grades returned for these.
The coins that go through coin portfolio management have a secondary coa inside.
Do you every keep a coin that is not graded?
I would think the coins would have abrasions from the loose capsule
I bought a 1 / 50th gold kruger. The capsule was really sandwiched in there. So maybe they got it right elsewhere.
When's the cut off point for the grading submissions
Platinum Skies 19th on Friday
Numistacker shit I'll post the stuff I got to you asap
That's what happen it delayed my order i got mine with a pouch
OMG! good video
I could not bring myself to buy a Krugerrand.
"cheap and nasty box" lol all this sux especially for what they're charging for em
Golden Arms it's a simple thing and I guess nobody thought to check
I bought 2 of these, not proofs, but just 2017 South African Silver Krugerrand Coin 1 oz | Gem Premium Uncirculated, from SD bullion for 47.49 a piece with free shipping. Lowest price I have found on these
+Jon Moore I don't understand why they sold these at such a steep premium with a mintage of 1,000,000. They should have been a little better on price.
A lot of silver kuggerand got damage going to a second party dealer
What is the best way a Canadian can buy these coins?
Great video! See mine they are good too!
id love to be master of the mint ...production line manager at a mint....the royal mint.... id be brutal in making sure every aspect of production from engraver to packer, to designer ...even the cleaners.......making sure every single person took pride in their work ....or else lol
I love the coin, but for the price they are bringing you figured they would fit better than that.
If they want to establish a good reputation at the mint at the start of the journey they should have devoted much more to security and presentation.
i got one thru apmex and showed up in the box popped out. yea if graded i would be lucky if it was a pf69
Count yourself fortunate you have no spots or marks on the coin. I had to exchange the one I received graded from ModernCoinMart.
How much was this coin, I thought Gold was the way to go?
Can you send me your email I will attach the information there
I can see you in the reflection :D
MUDSWAT it's like the Chimera it's ok in the reflection but if you ever saw me in real life you would turn to stone.
How was the grading?
+jakeizlove 16 x 69 3 x 70
Thanks!
You are right! Nice proof coin but bad packaging.
Why have you kept away from gold krugerand?
I have kept away as there is no possibility of price growth beyond the metal
No numismatic value... only bullion value. I agree.
Wow that's a shame. Because I was looking into the kruggerand as my next coin to save for. I lust for the 1oz proof but I may have to re think. Thanks gents.
silver and gold Portugal ...the silver coins normally are in gold however the silver coins are for the 50th birtday of the Kruger gold...silver is ones of ever
This is so sad, I just ordered one of these and seems the packaging is worse than even a Canadian 1oz Sabre tooth proof - which is more than likely going to spot up ;)
I'm so disapointed with RCM... Never buy again one of their product
I've been offered 2 for 70 quid is that good
definately cant blame the dealer...mint management fail.....bigtime
My two arrived in exactly the same way 😔 very poor and sloppy. B- must try harder
MS69 for this one
nice camara!
I saw these when they were under £100 and now they are selling for £130 plus and more, I just can't justify it, I realise they'll be popular but can't see it maintaining its price with spots and bad packaging apparent, I may also eat my words time will tell
Nice coin but the packaging is ugly.
Soozie Snake RM win on packaging ))
only 3 x PF70 from 19 coins??????
iam cupitidas
I really like them though :(
If you look on American eBay you'll find out it's not the first pres of the cougar silver Krugerrand they came out 5 6 Years Ago by some unknown source again and it looks exactly the same don't differences to date has been changed my advice would be to stay away from these unless you have money to throw out the window
Every thing is nasty in south Africa I live here trust me
Tsk, tsk.They have no pride. This is a massive failure.
very poor from the s.a. mint, stunning coin, let down with cheap low budget packaging. ...one thing the royal mint are very good at is the design of the packaging. why make a beautiful coin, for a customer, a beautiful coin too....then skip corners on the packaging?.....makes no sense lol......like cheap nasty washing up liquid...no value. great video
Coin number 06066? Demonic powers possess that coin so it tried to get out! Keep an eye on it ;)
Sickening. I hope all your coins are 70s.
You're not surprised,are you?
JRW3 good question )) I feign surprise for artistic reasons )) nothing surprises me any more
A proof bullion coin, what's the point, I don't get it, why would you overpay for this. Lol.
i can't ever condone the purchase of coins 'proof' over 'BU'. Silver is so cheap, why pay so much for a shiny coin (premium proof) when you can get the normal bu ones and juggle them in your silk pocket?!
show the coin in its glory, breathing the air of the room yer in, and wear gloves to protect it ( and also to hide yer skin....)
06066 :P
1000th view yayayayay
Price scared me away silver looks great here to me but not at a multiple of spot after seeing your video happy i ran from this overpriced dog
The 1,000,000 are PU, not BU, there is a difference
Yes but not much as I have now seen lots of the PU ones too. The proofs are very nice though.
I wouldn't be surprised if a black guy was now at the head of the S.A. mint...
I hope every coin you get is scratched beyond recognition 😉
Is there some reason for that comment?
Hey there how many silver and gold ounces is your total stack now? Just wondering