What happened at the Zocalo during El Grito in Mexico City 2023??
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- čas přidán 16. 09. 2023
- Today is going to be a VERY interesting day! Not only because tonight es el famosisimo Grito Mexicano to celebrate Mexican Independence Day, but also, because we’re a couple of chismosos who are curious to see what’s going to go down in the zocalo tonight because of who will be performing at tonight’s annual concert at the zocalo after the president’s speech… Grupo Frontera
The headliner is a MEXICAN-AMERICAN musical group, Grupo Frontera and we saw a rumor… that they might be bringing fellow Mexican-Americans Yahritza y Su Esencia to perform with them. And after their recent controversy and being “canceled” by Mexican social media… UUFF! We don’t know for sure if Yahritza y Su Esencia will be here tonight, but if they do show up, it’s going to be interesting to see how the crowd’s reaction...
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Mexican American here, I grew up in Mexico ,I dont believe Mexico is a Nationalist country #1 because they receive with open arms people from all over the world, (most Mexicans are friendly) #2 Most Mexicans dont see themselves as better than any other countries/people. In my opinion just like Mexicans can be super warm and welcoming they are also very smart people that have pride in their roots if someone talks down on something like their food which natioanal pride or if they feel like a foreigner is talking down on them they will react. The military parade is because Mexico supports 100% their army men, most of the military people will die for their country regardless of the $.
well said! I agree and I think it's one of the reasons the world loves Mexicans so much 🇲🇽❤️
No es el porcentaje que escribes, los malos mexicanos son minoría. En mi opinión, en todos los países hay cosas negativas y positivas y si en México hay estados en los que hay delincuencia organizada, eso no quiere decir que todo el estado sea así, como ejemplo pongo a Guanajuato que es uno de los estados con la mayor ocupación de la delincuencia organizada pero también es uno de los estados más hermosos y con una población que en su generalidad son seres humanos maravillosos y así te podría enumerar muuuchos lugares en México
mexico de mexico pero americano de donde
@@3x157estas lleno de ignorancia
En mi opinión, como mexicano, somos muy patriotas. No sé si nacionalistas. Para algunos, la palabra puede ser percibida como negativa, personalmente, no creo que lo sea. Creo que somos un país muy acogedor con otras culturas. Yo por ejemplo tengo una madre italiana que desde el '86 está en México y nunca ha sido maltratada o discriminada. Otro tanto ocurre con mi novia uruguaya, que lleva aquí (en México) casi siete años. Saludos hoy domingo 17/09/2023 y ¡Viva México cabrones!
Mexicanos, despierten. Esas visits de Rusia, China, Cuba visitando tattoos a mexico no es nada Bueno. Esos paises ven a los mexicanos como los proximos esclavos. Ellos Trahan a sus ciudadanos Mal, no tienen derechos y los desaparecen si hares la boca. Cuidadito con ellos porque also Malo viene para mexico con esas visitas de Esa Mala vivra.
Felicidades a todos ustedes
I’ll italiani sonó cosi gentili.
Que viva Italia!
así me gusta ver que se hable de México ❤️🇲🇽 un país amable, acogedor..
Me gusto mucho su video, lo sentí muy dinámico, entretenido, alegre y sobre todo original con la dualidad de ser “chicano” donde se utiliza el Mexican Spanglish y el English y la honesto de sus reacciones, de verdad los felicito muchach@s sigan así. La mayoría de mexicanos somos patriotas y puede que para algunos este sentimiento no sea bien visto! Sin embargo hay una razón fundamental del porque y la respuesta es simple las grandes potencias nunca dejaron que se desarrollara México después de su independencia sufriendo invasiones, robó de territorio e imposición política y mangoneo que se sufre hasta el día de hoy!… eso ha hinchado el pecho de los mexicanos de patriotismo exagerado, ósea no es sentimiento de superioridad, más bien es orgullo de su historia, de su rica cultura, de sus tradiciones, de su comida, de sus paisajes y por supuesto de su gente!… cuídense desde California y suerte!
lo que dice tiene mucha mucha razón! estoy de acuerdo, la historia del mexicano es una historia dolida por tanto pisoteo que han sufrido, pero sin embargo siguen alegres, amorosos, y orgullosos de seguir adelante a pesar de todo! Y eso nos hace sentir muy orgullosos de nuestras raíces mexicanas 🇲🇽❤️
As a Mexican American living in the USA, I feel so much anger toward Yahritza. They are giving Chicanos such a bad name and reinforcing negative stereotypes. I feel that they should never have shown up there. They obviously haven't yet hired a good PR agent. Any professional management would have known that showing up in the middle of a national scandal would not be a good idea. They need to go back to Washington and lay low and let this controversy pass. Right now they are just adding fire to the flames. They also need training and education on how to conduct themselves in PR events. If they want to keep pursuing their musical ambitions they need to train for it in terms of good PR behavior. They literally need to write a song about the situation and apologize in the song and hopefully sing about how they learned from it and grew from it.
I gotta admit, I do admire their courage to get up on stage after everything.. but yes, I like your idea! I would love to see them write a song about the lesson learned
Some idiotic Edgar's & a very Indigenous girl? The guys look like the natives that chased Indiana Jones in Raiders of the last arc.
mexico americano 🤔de donde sera la otra nacionalidad
A si es, muchos los llaman amricanos mientras en general todos somos americanos, y por eso los estadounidenses se creen Dueños de todo america, a si es que uno mismo tiene que quitarse esa mentalidad, estadounidense es estadounidenses por que Americano lo somos todos en general, Saludos desde Hilo Hawaii.@@rogelioquintanataborga6928
@SacroElemental they should write a song about how they only eat chicken wings with mild sauce.
El patriotismo de México tiene que ver con el amor y defensa a su nación no a sentirse superior a ningún otro pueblo o nación la prueba es qué México no es colonialista no a invadido países aprovechándose de su vulnerabilidad
100% de acuerdo contigo
Muy bien dicho 🇲🇽
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Los mexicanos y los argentinos somos chauvinistas
@@EatBailaTravelWe Mexicans are extremely proud to be not Latinoaméricans but just Mexicans with a country in North America I live in Southern California 🇺🇲 Born & raised in CDMX Most of my female friends here are Americans Russians super gorgeous Mexicans from from the north of México like Baja California Monterrey Nuevo León El Paso Texas Ciudad Juárez Chihuahua Ukranians Canadians etc. I don't go out with very pretty Mexican-Americans because they always tell they're not Mexican They're Spanish or some other nationality Greetings from beautiful beach city lof Santa Monica California 🇺🇲 🇲🇽 🇨🇦
The Mexican army helps the population during natural disasters like hurricanes, earthquakes, floods, they have search and rescue teams like the ones sent to Turkey after this country was hit by an earthquake several months ago. Their engineers build infrastructure and much more. They don't go overseas to invade, occupy and destroy other countries. Real heroes save lives, and that's the main purpose of the Mexican army. Just pay attention to the equipment displayed in the parade and you'll undestand.
Well said, I noticed in the US there are no military parades like the one in Mexico but instead it’s more disguised as in fleet week and at sports Stadiums with events that seem like public relations, and a way to recruit for the armed forces.
@renemaya1778 thank you for putting it into this perspective! When you put it that way... I actually agree with you. Having grown up in the USA, I'm used to seeing military as bullies and mismanagement of taxpayer dollars.. thanks for helping me see this other side to it.
@fergomez3817 and the recruiters always posted at high schools, more often at the lower income communities..
@@EatBailaTravel you're welcome. By the way, new subscriber here, I enjoy watching your videos.
Glad to have you in the community! 🤗🇲🇽🇺🇸🫶🏻
Thank you for sharing your experience in Mexico City. Good luck to you both and congrats on your CZcams channel.
Thank you so much!
It’s interesting to see how locals view other people in Mexico. I am a white male from Chicago but my significant other is Mexican-American and we spend a lot of time in many parts of Mexico. I can honestly say that during all of the years I have interacted with Mexican born and Mexican-Americans in Mexico I have always been treated great by everyone I have interacted with even when I am by myself. I have also never seen my partner treated badly. I wish I could say the same about Chicago. I know that there are bad people everywhere but in general I find the people in Mexico more accepting of different people. I do agree that if you have criticisms about certain things it is better to keep them to yourself.
Thanks for sharing your experience, Greg! I’m glad you have nothing but positive interactions with people in Mexico 🇲🇽🤗
Saludos cordiales para estos chicos. Viva por siempre México 🇲🇽
Que viva 🇲🇽 Mexico! Saludos que tenga un lindo día!
You guys are always on the pulse of a super interesting topic, I love it! Great video & discussion. Feliz Independencia!
glad you enjoyed it! muchas gracias 🤗❤️
Somos NACIONALISTAS PATRIOTICOS . Mira como juramos a la bandera , como cantamos el himno, como portamos la bandera y defendemos todas nuestras Tradiciones.
🇲🇽🇲🇽🇲🇽❤️❤️❤️❤️
Saludos Desde Michoacán
#VivaMéxico 🇲🇽👍🏼
Saludos 🫶🏻 bello estado de Michoacán
@@EatBailaTravel 👍🏼
Gracias por su video amigos. Qué bueno que se reencuentren con sus raíces. Mi hijo también nació y creció en los Estados Unidos y quiere mucho a México. Saludos 😊
muchas gracias 🫶🏽
@@EatBailaTravel what do you think about AMLO?
I was there too! What a beautiful experience! My family is from the city yet i was the 1st to experience el grito em el zócalo. I recommend 100%!
Hermosa celebración que bueno que la disfrutaron chicos los saludo desde Tijuana Baja California ❤🇲🇽❤💐👍😊
Muchas gracias! Saludos hasta Tijuana 🫶🏻
much love and respect for mexico... from your good friends @ china!
We love China! 🇨🇳 we want to visit you! 😊
Thanks for the video, soy Mexican from Guerrero paisanos, I was in California for 26 years, now I’m living in Glendale Heights Illinois from 2009, my kids are Mexican American, they love my Mexican culture, oraleeeeee pues saludos mi raza latina, soy troquero ( truck driver) camionero, wherever, los Mexicanos nacemos donde nos da la rechingada gana, I Love your work, excellent video
Muchas gracias paisano! We hope your kids also enjoy our videos because we hope to share more of beautiful Mexico and the Chicano experience with others who can relate 🫶🏻 un saludo!
Great video looks like a really great time Mexicans are always very proud of there heritage very family orientated just like Italians God Bless Mexico 🇲🇽
Yes we are very similar in that sense! Saludos have a wonderful Sunday
Loved this! You do a great job with your channel, so interesting and wonderful videos. Jenny you are beautiful, Kevin so cute. I spend 1 or 2 months in Mexico every year, wish it were more.
Thank you so much! I’m glad you enjoy our channel 🫶🏻
Great video you guys it’s summed up everything I love about Mexico can’t wait to get back heading to Veracruz in November and points beyond
Veracruz! 🇲🇽❤️ thanks!
I would reply to the comment you posted at the start of the video with Costa Rican born singer Chavela Vargas’ famous quote "¡Los mexicanos nacemos donde se nos da la reching%&da gana!". Meaning a Mexican is born wherever the hell we feel like it. A Mexican is anyone that identifies, loves and contributes to our country so don’t listen to all the haters- you are most definitively Mexican. 😊
yes exactly! love it! thank you!!🫶🏽
The phrase is about migrants who move to Mexico and fall in love with the country like Chavela Vargas and Luis Miguel did. Mexican-Americans don't understand the context of the phrase.
She little said she was still a Tica.
Pero ella dice que el desfile se le hace mucho exibisionismo, como que le falta respeto hacia el ejército, creo que solo le gusta el borlote, la fiesta, la peda....
@@noskpain2792
Un extranjero siempre será extranjero en país ajeno.
Tengo 40 anos vivendo en califoria y tengo 3 hijos nasindo aqui en entados unidos y amos ami paisis mexico ❤🇲🇽🇲🇽🇲🇽🇲🇽🇲🇽
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Pon la ñ amigo 😂
Aprovecho para decir no a la gentrificacion en yucatan y demas pueblos que quieren "comprar" gringos y canadienses hay que apoyar a los nuestros 🤙🏽
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I love it that you don't fear a bit of controversy to enrich the conversation. Our level of understanding is determined by our willingness to listen to others and our openness to experience new things. Viva México!
Gotta keep it real! And yes, 100%, we've got to be willing to have tough conversations and listen to others
Awesome little recap of what you guys experienced that day! Looks amazing regardless the rain!!! Can’t wait till one day be out there in Mexico living and celebrating the Independence Day! Woohoo! Sii 🙌🏼 Viva Mexico !!! 🇲🇽 😃🔥🎶 Salu2 👋
thanks! yes, it's an experience to be lived someday!
Greetings from a Chilango living in Cozumel, Quintana Roo, I lived in the United States for 10 years and in Europe for another 10 and answering your question, I believe that we are Patriots more than Nationalists.
Patriots because in our hearts we carry Mexico regardless of whether we are in National Territory or on Everest, Mexico in the Blood, and we have been educated this way since we were children, in addition to the fact that this abundant Culture is not easy to find in other places in the World, I know because I have traveled quite a bit.
I do not consider myself a Nationalist because Nationalism and Fascism have a very thin line, if we were like that we would not welcome foreigners in the warm way that is customary and at the same time we would not have the level of Tourism that we have, very far from a Mexican being Nationalist, even though there will be a small percentage of the Population that is Extremist like in any other Nation
As for those born here or outside of Mexico of Mexican parents or descent, it is incorrect to compare people like Yaritza and her Essence, those chavos decided not to measure their words and made a mistake, and they are also being given too much prominence and I don't even think about them, those chavos don't feed me and if they don't like Mexico, then Good Bye. Anyone who does not have respect will be treated the same way, just look at Borolas or Ricki Rickin Canallin, Loret de Mola, Profugos because there is no room for rats here.
A Mexican, even if she/he was born in another country, feels Mexican and we will consider her/him Mexican, in his branch of You Tubers there are several examples, with respect the Mexican will open the Doors to our Fraternity and our House to you, that is the Key RESPECT, examples Ford Quaterman (gringo), Rusos Reaccionan (Russia), Corazones Gemelos (Cuba), Esto es Argentilandia (Argentina), Jan Bohnensteffen (Germany), Alexa López (Colombia), The Romantic Corner (Spain), so there are hundreds who love Mexico and they also contribute because not only Mexicans but people from all over the Planet see them and they do it with RESPECT and Love for Mexico.
The problem here is that Mexico is attacked a lot out of envy and Mexicans like me are short-fuses, especially with National Symbols or our Internal Policy. There are thousands of cases that you can find even Burning the Flag of Mexico, of course We are going to react, wherever you are from.
Maybe, for example, you yourself comment that you don't know the meaning of a National Guard truck, you don't know what it is taking and has taken, the path to having the National Guard all over The Country and the Fight against Politicians of the Opposition that does not want to see Mexico Better and want to continue living with Violence, those are exactly the details that You must if You really love Mexico Educate Yourselves more, not just the good songs or the good tacos or paradisiacal places, we have to know where we are Standing as Mexicans, Chicanos, Pochos or Nationalized Mexicans even if we live abroad.
Send a big hug to You
You guys are awesome and I am loving your videos. Hopefully next time I visit Mexcio City I'll get the chance to meet you guys.
We would love that! Let us know when you’re in town 😊 we wanna start doing meet-ups
Interesting some interviewees said that it’s AMLO’s last Dia de Independencia. Actually, that’s not true. The presidential elections are in July 2024 but the new president doesn’t get inaugurated until December 2024, so AMLO will still be president at next Dia de Independencia (9/16/24). Just a clarification point. Loved your videos, guys! Saying hi here from San Francisco, CA from a Mexican-born first-generation Mexican American.
yea we were a little confused about that, thanks for clarifying. Love to see our community growing on this channel!🇲🇽🇺🇸💪🏽🫶🏽 saludos!
AMLO has mentioned he will leave early. He could stay until December 1st I believe but he has stated he won’t be staying until that date.
Me senti un poco desilusionado cuando se fueron a Colombia que hasta deje de mirar sus videos como dicen ustedes los mexicanos somos muy nacionalistas y pense que no les gustaba México como decían pero ya vi que estaba equivocado y ya mire que regresaron a México lindo y querido me da mucho gusto bienvenidos y no me voy a perder ningún video de ustedes viva México 🇲🇽🇲🇽🇲🇽🇲🇽
Mucha gracias por su apoyo. Nosotros nos encanta Colombia pero adoramos nuestro Mexico lindo y querido. 🇲🇽 ❤️
I’m a Mexican who served in the US Army and I felt Anglos picture a white man as a patriot soldier not a brown like me. Mexico receives immigrants better than the USA also. Mexico has been at war with the USA and lost 1/2 its territory, it wasn’t until I studied the Mexican revolution that I found out zapata and Villa weren’t villains as the USA portrayed them. Mexico is one of the only nations that has fought a revolution to free itself from a dictator. I spoke with many Mexican-Americans that said they felt ashamed to be Mexicans and they mistreated and told Mexicans to speak English. They said the USA culture pressured them to do that even though they themselves were 2nd class citizens. Mexico in its constitution has Mexican-Americans as Mexicans of their parents were Mexicans. AMLO calls heroes to Mexicans that live in the USA. More and more people are feeling proud to be of Mexican decent, because we have an ancient civilization and great people. Reason being for many people from every where calling Mexico their home. I have had many of my family members give their hard work for the USA and sadly like me have been discriminated. So, Mexicans are born where they…f.. want. Feel proud!
Lol you will never be Mexican to them. Look at the comments and they tell Kevin and Jenny to speak Spanish. We have already been accepted. If you feel Paisa by all means go live where you feel welcomed.
@@noskpain2792 *_"Them"_* who? I was born and raised in Mexico, and whatever some ignorant people say doesn't change the fact that Kevin and Jenny are fellow Mexican compatriots born in the U.S. Just because you have had bad experiences with a few Mexican knuckleheads doesn't mean all Mexicans are the same. _"Paisa"_ and _"Chicano"_ are just labels to keep our people divided, and education on both sides of the border is required.
@@xolotlmexihcah4671 Look at the comments paisas are leaving.
@@noskpain2792 _"Paisa"_ comments like mine?
@@xolotlmexihcah4671 Look at the newer ones
Amazing video shot outs from detroit michigan gracia x mostrar nuestra cultura viva México
Saludos a Michoacan! I mean Michigan 😜🫶🏻
And it does not matter if I live in China or Australia I will always be and feel Mexican no matter that of anyone opinion. Sorry for rambling on. Also wanted to mention how great your videos
You guys still putting out cool content! Gracias!
glad you think so! 😁 thanks!
Good to see you two are so happy 😍😍
So happy to be home in Mexico 🇲🇽 Saludos
🇲🇽🇲🇽🇲🇽🇲🇽 Thank you for sharing
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Gracias por tan excelente video , anduve ahí con la familia y hubiera Sido increíble" toparlos "😊! Si ví muchos parientes de EEUU de origen mexicano y me da mucho gusto que vengan a reencontrarse con sus raíces, triste lo que ocurrió con Yaritza 😢😢; tuvieron un error y la gente no los disculpó 😮😮!! Que padrísimo que al final de todo lo que pasó ( tormenta, incomodidad , etc , etc ) disfrutaron mucho !👌👏👏🇲🇽🇲🇽🇲🇽🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
¡Nos hubiera encantado saludarlos! y siii al útlimo valió la pena 😅 espero que también lo hayan disfrutado!
Great video! That storm looked intense!
It was! 😅 definitely a day and night to remember lol
y que viva mexico chavossssss me gusto su videoooo saludos desde north carolina
Gracias! Viva Mexico!
Ahí estábamos, también! Lastima que no los vimos! We were fortunate to have stayed at the a hotel on Av Francisco Madero, so we avoided most of the doMéxico! Somos también de AZ (US) y Zacatecas! We were next to the flag! 🎉 Viva Mexico!
ah, qué padre hubiera sido saludarlos! I hope you had a great time! 🤗🇲🇽
@@EatBailaTravel We avoided most of the downpour of rain is what I meant to say! LOL
Love ur video. Like ur take on this whole yaritza drama. I wanna go to this event one yr.
Thank you! This event is intense, beautiful and the energy is amazing.
Gracias por compartir, saludos desde Alabama
🤗🇲🇽 gracias a ti!
Viva México 🇲🇽
Viva Mexico!!! 🇲🇽
🇲🇽 Thank you for your love and devotion to both our countries pero más que nada for raising the voices of our Mexican culture que llevamos tan fuerte en nuestra sangra… aunque digan por ahí que nel. 🤭 I find it shocking how much chilangos LOVE American music and grew up with it all their lives but they strongly dislike música agropecuaria and they hate us for being from both cultures! Que hipócritas! Keep doing what you do Jenny & Kevin, we love you guys! 🇲🇽🌯🫔🌮
Love this comment because you hit so many good points especially with the music.
Can you be Mexican without the nationality?
yes,@@aldoxlalleca, Mexico is like many Western hemisphere countries. anyone born there gets citizenship regardless of nationality.
Exactly there bunch of hyprocites they want to talk both languages in there conversation but we can't🤦🏻 😂 I'm not going to go deep on this topic but . Especially the city people they're just haters .
@DavidCoxDallas what's aren't they the something?
I loved your video!🇲🇽🇲🇽🇲🇽❤️❤️
Excellent video like only you can make
I cried 😢
aw, gracias! happy you enjoyed it, I hope they were happy tears!
Éste güey!
"Yahritza, ya perdio su Esencia" jajaja
Ay chicano, jajaja (just joshing!)
just to clarify.. we actually like Yahritza y Su Esencia! lol but the mexican in us can't help to make jokes! 😆
Mexican -American from El Paso TX here.....VIVA MEXICO CABR%*$#@!!😂😂 Hope to retire in Queretaro in about 4 years! Growing up in a border city we were in Cd. Juarez 60% of the time. Miss that vibe that Mexico has (live in Dallas now), can't explain but I'm sure you guys know what I'm saying! We were there last week left 2 days before grito...😮. Love your channel, videos super helpful!! Good luck and God bless! 🙌🇲🇽🙋♀️🙏💕 Cuidense...se banan!! 😂
Un mexicano dice viva México
Un verdadero mexicano dice viva México cabrones. ... ese es un verdadero mexicano .. esa. Es la clave ..!!! Capisss. Saludos
Epa! Viva Mexico cabrones! 🇲🇽 saludos!
The problem is bringing your USA baggage to Mexico. In Mexico the left is different than the left in the USA, and the right is different as well. Mexicans are patriotic and they are also “soberanistas”, not nationalists. We support the SEDENA because we have been invaded many times, we need a good army to defend our sovereignty. And we did not fall for the Ukraine USA proxy war.
The only baggage we brought to Mexico is our suitcases. We came here with an open mind and ready to learn about everything we have missed out in USA. We love everyone’s comments and are open to hear everyone’s opinions even if they trash talk us. 😂 ese orgullo mexicano los traemos bien marcado también! Viva mexico Saludos 🇲🇽
LO PRIMORDIAL Y BASICO NO OLVIDARSE DE SUS RAICES. AUN CUANDO VIVAS EN EL PAIS MAS DESARROLLADO O EN EL PAIS MAS POBRE TU IDENTIDAD ES LO QUE TE DA DIRECCION EN TU VIDA PARA SER MEJOR.
Nos encanta este mensaje! Tienes toda la razón.
Claro que ser mexicano es más que un título es una forma de vida es un sentimiento claro que un mexicano nace donde se le da la rechingada gana pero recuerden si dice ser mexicano es brincar por la casa primero mexico después latino america saludos desde Guadalajara
sii de acuerdo, es un estilo de vida! una que varía mucha por su rica diversidad cultural por la republica pero igual todos seguimos siendo mexicanos ❤️🇲🇽
Re: your open question about the military. I think that, like always, it depends on context. Mexico's military has never been used to invade other countries, and although there's been cases in which it has been used to oppress the people (ie Tlatelolco, 1968) it has never staged a coup* or defied orders from the civilian president. I think one can feel plenty of resentment still for the times the military has violated the trust of the people, but also a higher level of trust compared to countries where militaries have done worse.
Regarding patriotism, I think the context becomes important too. We are Mexicans. We didn't arrive here on boats. Yes, we speak Spanish and our skin is multicolored, but we are not the same people who committed genocide and enslaved the people of this land- we're the people who rose up in arms to kick those people out of here. Our fight for independence was a fight against slavery and racism, our revolution was a fight for social equality, land distribution and fair wages. This is all a spectrum of course, but generally I'd say Mexico is not a country of invaders and oppressors, but on the contrary, a country that time and time again hast to fight against them.
Nationalism is defined as the- "identification with one's own nation and support for its interests, especially to the exclusion or detriment of the interests of other nations". Being patriotic for Mexico, given this historical context, doesn't equate being nationalistic.
[*] the current, post-revolutionary military
PS: great video btw. I heard about the rain in the news! In spite of everything I kinda wish I had been there, it looked like a great time!
The independence was started and promoted by direct ascendant of Europeans and Mestizos that didn't want to lose their privilege over others. Similar to what Texans did. See, the kings and representatives of the kingdom were actually doing go things for the people and protected them. But the Europeans that were born in the virreynato and the mestizos believe that they were being betrayed by the king . That's why, after the independence to now, we have racism , colorism, and classism in México.
Lol, our DNA is around 60% spanish on average according to many genetic studies and the ones who freed the country were criollos or Spanish people born in the Americas like Iturbide, Josefa Ortiz, Hidalgo, Morelos, Allende, Aldama and Leona Vicario, most had links with the Spanish Royal Army or people who held public office under the Colony, yeah the country was founded under values of race equality and brotherhood but we are not free of our share of blood, if anything the main reason why we became independent is because "The Motherland" was becoming too Liberal for the taste of the colonists, the 1812 Court of Cadiz was working to unify the Empire, take away the Viceroyalty system and turn every group in the Empire a full fledged citizen of Spain no matter the ethnic or racial origin which the Criollos didn't like. For better of worse guys like Iturbide and Guerrero ended up becoming leaders of the Rebellion and ended up actually supporting the ideas of the Court of Cadiz in the end (which served as a base for the first mexican constitution)
There were many attempts to commit crimes and genocide against indigenous peoples like the Yucatec and the Maya outright having a race war (which is the main reason why Yucatan became independent of Mexico for a decade) or Benito Juarez ordering the massacre of several indigenous peoples for siding with the church and Maximillian Hapsburg during the 2nd Mexican Empire (the Imperial government gave a lot of land back to the indigenous peoples that were taken from them during the Reform War to gain their sympathy) like against the Yoreme people in Sinaloa and Sonora, then it was Porfirio Diaz who sold indigenous peoples as slaves.
@@aldoxlalleca yes, criollos played a big role. And the independence movement was started in support of Fernando VII. But the reason we didn't stick to Spain after Fernando was restituted, and the reason the Mexican empire didn't work out after that, and Iturbide was ousted, was because the independence movement grew to reject European-ism and "Spanish roots" in favor of the identity of its people.
Compare that with the USA or Australia for example, where colonists didn't mix at all, and don't have any semblance of native identity. The American flag doesn't have Iroquois symbology. There was a big civilization in the Mississippi River- they built pyramids too (see Monk's Mount)- no one even remembers their name, and Americans don't claim to be their descendants.
Our second president was African-American. Benito Juarez was a Native American president fighting against an European emperor. Yes, the emperor was brought by those Mexicans you're talking about, the ones who didn't want to lose their privileges, and who were so connected to their European roots and so convinced of their superiority, they went to Europe to find royal blood to govern Mexico. That faction has always been there and we see remnants of them still even today, but they do not define the national identity.
If you ask random Mexicans on the street, "who are your ancestors, before Columbus crossed the sea?"- I can assure you the majority will tell you "the Aztecs", or "the Maya", etc. Few will say, "the Spanish- my ancestry arrived here from Castle".
I am a Salvi born living in Canada since I was 6. I am now mid 40s. I feel and identify much more w being Salvi than I do Canadian. I actually don't even say I am Canadian even though I am a citizena and I grew up here. I don't partake in any patriotic or nationalistic celebrations for ES's Día de Independencia. And also not for Canada day. I don't wear blue and white or red and white to show my pride. My pride for my home country is shown in so many different ways everyday and not just on a specific date. I think having pride in your nationality or heritage can be expressed in so many ways that don't necessarily have to do w nationalistic or patriotic expressions.
But I understand the social allure of it all and it looks like you had a great time. You will have so many cool memories to look back on.
At the end of the day, your identity is yours to create. Nobody can state it for you.
As for military showboating, the military in El Salvador (with the support of the U.S. and Israeli government) caused immense harm to our own people in the past. For that reason, we had to leave and we ended up in Canada.
The military also massacred a large number of our Indigenous peoples in El Salvador.
To this day I do not like participating in celebrations or rituals w militaristic tones. I am very much a pacifist.
I have found the comments in this video about how Mexico's army has never been used to invade other countries, and instead the focus is on the civil service they provide, very interesting and I respect this a lot. As someone said above, your military is not perfect, but it has not done as messed up things as other militaries have done and I think that is worth learning about. ❤
Yo siento que Yahritza y sus hermanos fueron excluidos como Mexicanos por esa notable actitud de desprecio.... Hablo de ese porcentaje de México Americanos que hablan mal de México y su gente sin conocerlo....Yo trabaje en los EU por treinta aNos y siempre me daba cuenta de ese grupo pequeño de Mexicanos nacidos en EU que desprecian a Mexico.sin conocer el país.
sí es cierto que existen esos MXEE.UU-enses que desprecian a sus raíces, y muchas veces es ignorancia, es una defensiva (igual, ignorante) de tratar asimilar a EEUU y ser aceptados en donde viven.. no es excusa, pero a veces se creen de las noticias malas en EEUU sobre Mexico y no hacen el esfuerzo de ver el lado hermoso de Mexico.. y como dices tú, son pocos. Esperamos que esas personas encuentren nuestros videos para que conozcan lo hermoso que son sus raíces. Gracias por escribir!
🇲🇽 awesome video! Wish I could have gone
I hope you can someday!
@@EatBailaTravel Jan 27-Feb 6 I'll be in Mérida, Bacalar, y Isla Mujeres for my bday! Mexico City is on my bucket list, wanna go for like 3 months and work remotely from there.
Nice! Let us know if you do end up living in CDMX for a bit
Thank you for sharing this experience, it was incredible! We are looking forward to spending Christmas and New Years in CDMX this year.
ohh that's going to be so much fun!
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Viva mexico! 🇲🇽
i do see many 1st gen latios trying to go back to their home country. One thing I noticed, my wife is from Mexico City, not many people in chicago are from Mexico City…when I tell people or white co workers she is from mexico I need to explain that she is from the city… not sure if this bad or good as most 99% Mexican people in chicago are from smaller cities or towns.
that's true, there aren't as many people from CDMX who migrate because there's a lot of economic opportunity here in Mexico City, though people migrate for many different reasons that is a big one
Honestly I love this channel.. I have commented this before but I am Cuban-American and we in the Caribbean diaspora consider ourselves to be a part of a diaspora. I was just talking with a guy who was born in the Dominican Republic last week and he felt the exact same way about how we are separated from our homelands but still very attached to our roots. What I am saying is that it isn't fair that you become 'less' Mexican if you are born elsewhere. I can understand if you were born in Mexico and feel confused by someone who was born elsewhere returning to Mexico but it is a great learning experience for both mainland Mexicans and Mexicans in the diaspora. Even though he is Vietnamese-American I highly recommend the CZcamsr Kyle Le Dot Net because of how he goes around the world as well as to Vietnam to interact with Vietnamese in the diaspora and on the mainland and you see exactly what those of us in the diaspora feel where we are genuinely proud of our roots but almost sad that we haven't been back to our homes.
thanks for recommending that channel, we'll definitely check it out. Anything that helps us as people connect to one another and empathize with our overlapping human experiences... that's so important. We tend to naturally gravitate towards familiarity in content consumption but this is especially when it's about other cultures. We went to Vietnam during our Southeast Asia honeymoon trip and loved it, but feel like we still know and understand very little about it. Looking forward to checkng out this channel. Thanks!
Hey J&K, just wanted to thank you both for discussing this issues with your viewers. There not in anyway easy conversation and obviously hard not to bias as this issue affect people like us Americans with Mexican roots which we love dearly and our very proud of. I feel that at the end of it all they’ll always be individuals that even if your born in Mexico you’re still not enough Mexican for them. That’s fine, people’s are entitled to their opinion, but my position is that you don’t have to love everything about Mexico to be considered a true Mexican. As we know Mexico has a lot of issue that I neither condone or support. But there more things a love about Mexico than hate and what’s more important is how we see and experience our own personification of our Mexican culture. For me, I’m proud of being Mexican because the bloods that runs in my vine are of Mexican
👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽 muy bien dicho! es lo que se siente por dentro ❤️🇲🇽 thanks so much for being a part of this channel. Glad you enjoy the topics 🫶🏽
Saludos de un Chilango desde Cozumel Quintana Roo, vivi en Estados Unidos 10 años y en Europa otros 10 y respondiendo a tu pregunta Yo creo que somos Patriotas más que Nacionalistas
Patriotas porque en el Corazón llevamos a México sin importar si estamos en Territorio Nacional o en el Everest, México en la Sangre, y se nos ha Educado así desde pequeños, además de que esta Cultura tan abundante no es fácil de encontrar en otros lugares del Mundo, lo se porque he viajado bastante.
No me creo Nacionalista porque el Nacionalismo y el Fascismo tienen una línea muy delgada, si fuéramos así no le daríamos la bienvenida a extranjeros de la forma tan cálida que se acostumbra y a su vez no tendríamos el nivel de Turismo que tenemos, muy lejos el Mexicano de ser Nacionalista aun que habrá un pequeño porcentaje de la Población que si es Extremista como en cualquier otra Nación
En cuanto a los Nacidos Aquí o fuera de México de Padres o descendencia mexicana, es Incorrecto comparar a personas como Yaritza y su Esencia, esos chavos decidieron no medir sus palabras y cometieron un error, además se les esta dando demasiado protagonismo y a mi ni fi ni fa, esos chavos no me dan de Comer y si no les gusta México pues Good Bye. Cualquierea que no Tenga Respeto será tratado Igual solo mira a Borolas o Ricki Rickin Canallin, Lores de Mola, Profugos porque aquí no caben las ratas.
Un Mexicano aun que haya nacido en otro País se siente mexicano y lo consideraremos mexicano, en su rama de You Tubers hay varios ejemplos, con respeto el Mexicano te abrirá las Puertas de su Fraternidad y de su Casa, esa es la Clave RESPETO, ejemplos Ford Quaterman (gringo), Rusos Reaccionan (Rusia), Corazones Gemelos (Cuba), Esto es Argentilandia (Argentina), Jan Bohnensteffen (Alemania), Alexa López (Colombia), The Romantic Corner (España), así hay cientos que aman a México y además aportan porque no solo los ven Mexicanos sino personas de Todo el Planeta y lo hacen con RESPETO y Amor a México.
Aquí el Problema es que a México lo atacan mucho por envidia y el Mexicano como Yo, somos de Mecha Corta sobre todo con los Símbolos Nacionales o nuestra Política Interior, hay miles de casos que podrás encontrar hasta Quemando la Bandera de México, eso claro que vamos a reaccionar, seas de donde seas.
Igual por ejemplo tu misma comentas que no sabes el significado de un camión de la Guardia Nacional, no sabes lo que esta tomando y ha tomado, el camino para llegar a tener a la Guardia a Nivel Nacional y la Lucha en contra de Políticos de la Oposición que no quieren ver a México Mejor y seguír conviviendo con la Violencia, justo esos son los detalles que deben si aman a México de Verdad Educarse más, no solo las buenas rolas o los buenos tacos o lugares paradisiacos, hay que saber en donde estamos parados como Mexicanos, Chicanos, Pochos o Nacionalizados Mexicanos aunque vivamos en el exterior.
Un abrazo
Gracias muy buen video me estoy cuidando me voy a banar y te voy a guardar el agua saludos desde california
😅😅 jajaja nosotros ponemos el jabón 🧼 🫡🫶🏻
Chido saludos@@EatBailaTravel
Y entonces porqué en inglés?
buena pregunta, pues les damos la bienvenida a nuestros videos a todos los mexicanos, estadounidenses, pero en especial esperamos que estos videos se encuentren por los mexicoestadounidenses que quieren acercarse a sus raíces.. por supervivencia y necesidad muchos han dominado más el inglés que el español.. y al fin y al cabo, nosotros nos expresamos auténticamente en ambos idiomas en la vida real, y así nos transmitimos en los videos, como realmente somos y hablamos. PERO... tenemos planes de empezar a hacer videos completamente en español también 🫶🏽
México es un mundo de maravillas...
amamos a nuestro Mexico
I’m dying that you kept asking people who were from or
lived in the U.S.! 😂
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I’ve been watching your channel for over a year now faithfully and I always look forward to a new video dropping on Sunday. I hope to run into you both one day in our travels to Mexico. Drinks 🍺 on me! Take care J&K and keep the great content coming!!
Thanks so much, Alfonso 🤗 we'd love to meet! Doesn't have to be by accident. Let us know next time you're in CDMX
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Viva México!!!!
¡Viva! Hope you and JC had a great fin de semana Aleks 🤗
@@EatBailaTravel Yes we did, thank you for asking. Lots of turists in Atlixco. Next weekend it will be a fiesta de Atlixco, getting ready!!!!
7:45 That is Siwon from SuperJunior being inducted as an honorary citizen of Mexico by your local koreaboo society 😂
LOL thank you for explaining that!! cute
El problema con este grupo es que no convencieron sus disculpas, mi punto de vista es que no lo sienten de corazón y la gente no es tonta se da cuenta, les recomiendo que se alejen de Mexico 🇲🇽 por un buen tiempo para ver si se calman las aguas
comprendo, a mí tampoco me gustó mucho como ofrecieron las disculpas..
QUE VIVA MEXICO CABRONES 🇲🇽🇲🇽🇲🇽🇲🇽🇲🇽
¡VIVA!
I was born in the USA 🇺🇸 but I Identify as Mexican no matter what , remember that the border crossed us
Facts!!! Viva 🇲🇽 Mexico! Saludos
It only crossed the north of Mexico not the whole country , respect the natives of those lands
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Chicos dejenme decir que los mexicanos también amamos nuestro ejercito; y por que? Pues los militares en cada desastre de la naturaleza, llegan a salvar vidas, cocinar mientras los ciudadanos están temporalmente en albergues por la emergencia.
El ejército mexicano, no es de ataque es de DEFENZA, México nunca ha atacado, solo ha defendido la soberanía y libertad, hemo sufrido por lo menos 5 intentos de conquista con perdidas de compatriotas el pueblo sabemos que el EJÉRCITO MÉXICANO ES PUEBLO UNIFORMADO en principio eran hombres y mujeres campesinos en huaraches. El desfile es un acto de patritismo y orgullo, no de exhibicionismo. Ojalá me haya podido explicar.
Eso sí es súper admirable y se merece celebrar 🇲🇽❤️🎉 con que esas sean las intenciones de los desfiles y no otro tipo de propaganda político
@@EatBailaTravel desfilaron los perritos rescatistas, el camión de las tortillas es una máquina grande que se transporta a los albergues temporales junto con una cocina de grandes cazuelas dónde por cierto los muy jóvenes militares hacen la comida.
Construyeron en tiempo récord el aeropuerto Felipe Ángeles. Están ayudando a terminar el tren Maya. Y no reciben sueldo extra cobran los mismo que de militares. Por eso las obras públicas en este sexenio no han sido tan costosas. En fin que nosotros nunca seríamos capaces de invadir el salvador, Guatemala , Pero los vecinos del norte si quieren entrar a territorio mexicano, como han hecho en varios países. Gusto de interactuar contigo 👋🏻👋🏻 que descanses
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The crowd were saying " chicken chicken" 😂
And then “chicken a su madre”
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VERY NICE VIDEO 👌👍 🇺🇸🇲🇽 💚💚💚
Thank you very much!
La verdad Yaritza y su escencia no me gustan y mucho más por qué insultaron a México y su comida
Si la cagaron gacho! Saludos!
Great video I can't help it every time I hear cielito lindo all I hear is the frito bandito, I know you guys are too young to remember but maybe some others in the audience
I just looked it up on CZcams.. so cute lol made me laugh!
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Mexicanos can be born in la Luna and you still will recognize them lol😂
Epa! Viva mexico! 🇲🇽
Love to see you guys up and out there! Great passionate and intellectual coverage! Thanks for taking us along for the awesome ride. 🎉🎊🎈
thanks you guys! You two do a great job of making meaningful videos as well and are always inspired by you ❤️ keep up the great work!
I was there through the rain and hailing. The people were screaming for the president. They booed her loudly
Another zocalo survivor! That storm was rough
@@EatBailaTravel I posted some of my trip on my channel. I'm a FOUNDATIONAL BLACK AMERICAN
@EatBailaTravel it's been years since the 4th of July was as patriotic as what I saw in Mexico City for independence day
Creo que los entiendo. Soy de cdmx, nací aquí y creo moriré aquí mi bendita tierra. Identidad? Quien es mas Mexicano?, todo es relativo. Mi vecino de toda mi infancia, mi amigo de mi misma edad, se fué a vivir a Chicago desde hace pfff mucho tiempo. Yo nunca he tenido ese impulso de irme de aquí, pero entiendo a los que se van...y la neta nos representan bien chido en el gabacho..a algunos se les sube el estar allá, y como USA, es una potencia, pues se sienten bien y la neta los comprendo...quien es mas Mexicano? Sabrá Dios, pero si vivimos realidades diferentes ..No se torturen con eso de la identidad .. sólo un consejo nunca se sientan superiores por hablar dos idiomas, nunca veas por debajo del hombro a otro ser humano...asi lograrán ser parte de nuestra sociedad y de cualquier sociedad en cualquier parte del mundo...la soberbia se castiga en todos lados... sólo sean seres humanos orgullosos de sus raíces y sencillos, y serán bien recibidos no sólo aquí, sino también en cualquier parte de esta enorme REPÚBLICA MEXICANA, México es grandioso aún con toda su problemática, para mi es el mejor país del mundo!!!VIVA MÉXICO CABRONES!!!y sean bienvenidos mi casa es su casa mijos!!!❤
This was such a fun video and such an interesting topic, too 👀🇲🇽 I've definitely gotten a few 'you're an illegal immigrant' comments from Mexicans before, even though I've always had my paperwork up to date. Aside from those few random comments, I've always felt very welcome in Mexico 🙏🇲🇽 10/10 for video production & getting it done so quickly, that's no easy task at all and you guys make it seem effortless 👏👏
Thanks, Simone! We were up until 3am last night working on it and publishing 🥲 I know you know how much work this is!
And geez, assumptions.. why do people love to use the word “illegal” to describe others 😏
Chavos, mi mero mole todo esto!!
Yo soy nacido en Guerrero, pero en EEUU, casi toda la vida, soy pocho (no me ofende la palabra)
My Eng. is better, pero le hacemos la lucha al castellano.
Yo, como pocho, considero que el trato de mis paisanos mexicanos, a mis paisanos, chicanos mexicanos, está muy muy mal.
Creo que les falta mucho por considerar para entender a los chicanos. Deberán abrir la mente a otras posibilidades, y no sólo su forma de ver las cosas.
Hay mucho racismo/clasismo, que se acepta y hasta lo defienden. Habrán la mente, y verán el tema de otra forma, lo qué es y el daño que causa.
A la vez, los chicanos sí tienen que respetar la cultura mexicana.
Eso de no querer hablar español, está muy mal, por parte de los chicanos.
Yo veo las cosas de ambas partes, y tengo experiencia en las dos culturas.
¡Viva México, mexicanos! 🇲🇽
Saludos desde Tampa Florida.
pues por lo general el problema de los pochos es que ahi nomas andan comparando las cosas que si aya en usa las calles son mejor, que la comida es mejor etc. ese es el principal problema no vas ala casa de tu vecino y le dices que tu vida o trabajo es mejor y si hay gente que lo hace pero por eso el Mexicano tiende a pensar que los pochos son bien mamones y no digo que todos sean asi pero tienen que aceptar que la mayoria es asi, y lo que mas caga el palo es que son los que sus 2 padres son mexicanos no de los mix que tienen un padre gringo y uno mexicano.
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Primero, las calles y muchas cosas son mejores en EEUU, la neta.
La.comida en México, está llena de moscas, en los mercados.
Te dan perro, gato, y hasta comida echada a perder.
Yo sé, yo lo he visto!
Eso de mamo,nes, tienes que entender que la cultura gringa, es muy diferente la mexicana.
La ropa, que muchas veces portan, es súper accesibles en EEUU, y no en Mx.
Entonces, tú los ves como ostentosos. En EEUU, son como cualquier otro.
Hay todo un contexto, pero los mexicanos (en Mx), solo lo ven bajo si único criterio.
Yo soy mexicano, sé de las dos culturas.
@@lucio.martinez ahi esta mi punto, para ustedes todo está mal con méxico y bien chingon con usa los gringos aprecian más y no se hacen los delicados y ustedes se comportan más como los gringos los tratan a ustedes allá quieren hacer eso con los mexicanos de acá, luego andan de sufridos que no los quieren en méxico.
@@lucio.martinezque pocho no es uno nacido en USA?, no por que creciste aya y hablas Bien Ingles te hace Americano tu Gente y TU pais es Mexico para que lo Estes cagando tan gacho! Hay que mostrar humildad
@@jdvo707 Todos los mexicanos en México tienen cosas que nos les gusta de México (normal) y pueden expresarlas, pero también hay algunos mexicanos muy emocionales e infantiles que con su doble vara de medir pierden la cabeza si un mexicano de EE.UU. dice algo que a ellos no les gusta de México. La humildad también consiste en poder aceptar las críticas cuando están bien fundamentadas y así poder corregirlo.
Los mexicanos nacemos donde nos da la re chingada gana
Wow AMLOs speech made me cry! You can feel the pride through the screen! I’m not missing this next year!
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was rewatching w/ subtitles (THANK YOU!) & don't know if anyone commented on the scene at 7.45. have read that there are nearly 10K Koreans living in Pequeño Seul, CDMX.
We had a delay with the subtitles, but I’m so glad you came back to rewatch it 😁 and yesss we’ve seen that figure, too. We want to do some more exploring in Pequeño Seoul and hopefully a video!
sounds great but, would others be as interested as i in Pequeño Seul? you must focus on view numbers. or, maybe not so much once your UNAM income starts. (which is none of my business)
subtitles please for those of us with limited Spanish language skills!
Working on them now.
You guys are 100 Mexican don’t let nobody tell you otherwise lol
Says the yankee
Gurrrlfriend, how'd you hold up? All that waiting around, in the cold and rain. Aches and pains? Or was the excitement of the moment better than any Advil? Damn if it didn't look like an awesome time.
Soy de Michoacán vivo en Maygood
Saludos! Para Maywood! Un abrazo 🤗
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the difference between patriotism and nationalism is one many people here in the U.S. could/should learn.
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I have to say you gotta be a patriot to hang out in that weather.
Great point!! 🇲🇽