It seems as though you didn't really test this before you did the video and you are in doubt as to whether your setup is working or not. Correct? I actually think you have too much bypass there with those two big 1 inch hises in the bucket and not enough pressure coming out of the gun because all of the pressure is being released through them.
Yes there was too much bypass going through the two hoses. That's why I put a restrictor in both hoses. That took care of the surge. Now the system works great. Love using the machine.
I notice you don't have a float switch, did you remove your's, if so are they easily removed? I've just bought a cast iron 3/4 HP 5020 GPH pump for my system along with a marine extractor to take away smog caused by blasting, saw this in another video and it work's great.
Thank you for posting this Build. Pardon my ignorance, but can you explain how the pedal controls both the air and the pump? I can understand a foot activated air valve, and I can understand a foot activated on switch, but how are they both ran off of the same foot control, or are they?
Great job , would having your bypass hose pointing around your container make the bead (heavier) move to the outside with centrifugal force ? maybe pointing it straight down ? , I think at the moment the word wet or vapour blast is creating a Gold rush for the companies making them , sure good ones are make of Stainless and have a water pump and a few extras , but a dry blast cabinet might cost $ 2000 usd but a wet blast one will cost $ 15-20,000 , crazy .
The bypass tubes are more accurately agitation tubes. I see what your saying, but that doesn't seem to be what's happening in mine. It does a very good job of mixing the glass evenly with the water. It really gets the beads off the bottom and stirred well. Thanks for the thoughts.
hello sir..just wondrin how did you bypass or remove the float switch? do you have a sort custom diagram for it's conversion to a foot switch or control switch? thank you in advance sir
Hi Dynodon , Have you done any improvements on your vapor blast cabinet over the past months ? Are you happy with your slurry agitation set up ? And what’s the latest handgun you are using ?
@@Dynodon64 many thanks for your kind reply Sir. When you pour media to bucket, is the pump’s propeller staying above the underlying media before you add any water ?
@@keremustunkaya9650 The pumps impeller is up inside the base of the pump. So the media is not able to get to it at first. The media is so small, that when you add water, it mixes up very fast as the pumps kicks on and starts to stir up the water. Hope that helps.
Hi Dynodon64, I'm still trying to figure out why you selected a high volume pump? 4500 GPH or thereabouts seems like overkill since your only pumping upwards of no more than 3 feet and reducing the output flow from 1 1/2" or thereabouts to 5/8" hose? what would be the disadvantage of using a low volume pump say under 1000 GPH?
The first pump I used wasn't high enough flow or pressure, but it worked until the seals gave out. This higher flow pump works a lot better. You need a high flow because most of the flow is directed into the glassbead/water mix to stir it up. You need to get the glass beads mixed well with the water. That is why there are two hoses in the bottom of the tank.
@@Dynodon64 So I'm guessing even a pump around 2000GPH should be sufficient and if not perhaps reduce the hose size for the slurry mix hose to agitate it hopefully that should be adequate. It did seem like overkill with such a high volume pump to perform a simple task. thanks for the quick reply! Cheers!
That's a vent for the pump that lets air out. It squirts just a small amount of water and doesn't make a mess. If the air doesn't come out, the pump will not prime up. Works fine.
Simple, east build! About to build one of these, have a 8mm nozzle, similar pump....I know you mentioned 40psi but what CFM are you running from the compressor.
I think my 60 gallon five hp does 11 cfm @ 40 psi, and 9 cfm @ 90 psi. You need to size the air jet to match your compressor. It needs as much as a dry blast cabinet uses. I run between 40 - 60 psi.
@@Dynodon64 awesome thanks!. I’ve got shop air at around 15cfm at 60psi, and a gas tow behind that puts out 125cfm at 100psi. Just wanted to see which one I should start with.
@@Adam_Warso The 15 @ 60 should work just fine. I can run non stop with mine and the compressor runs the whole time, but shuts off in a few seconds when I stop blasting. My air jet is perfect.
Ha ha your funny! You have a submersible pump designed to be COMPLETELY submersed! Hence the name submersible in case you didn't know! 3:31 We laughed and laughed for hours ! Thanks for the comedy!
Just because a pump is labeled submersible, doesn't mean it has to be submersed. This pump comes with a float switch that shuts off the pump when the water level is below the top of the pump. Submersible, just means it is able to be fully submersed. Not that it has to be.
@@Dynodon64 That's true, but your comment was that you were worried about the possibility of water getting into the pump! That's the point! It's designed to be submerged so why would that even be an issue?
Both item were bought off of Ebay. The pump is 4300 GPH and are listed as 1-1/5 HP submersible. Here's an item number for one listed. 362088268827 Just put this number in the search bar on Ebay. The nozzles are all over there as well. Just search for sand blast nozzle or gun.
Hey DynoDon… wondering how your pump is performing? I bought the same pump and it didn’t last long it’s very fine garnet. I’m guessing it chewed out the seal and water got into the motor. Is yours still alive?
@@Dynodon64 great to hear. I’ll change my media and see how I go? Do you do a cleaning process before using the fine glass beads on more heavily corroded parts?
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Building a similar unit and I have the same weird pulsation at the nozzle. Im wondering if its not the air making its way in the slurry line. I'm thinking of adding a check vamve on the waterline. But it might be the gun also. Did you figured out the source of the problem?
I had to reduce the size of the hose outlet for the slurry mix hoses. I used sand blast gun nozzles in the ends of the two slurry mix hoses. Just went smaller until the pulsing stopped.
@@Dynodon64 ok thanks for the input. Did pretty much the same built, same pump and hose size but for some reason, air is fighting against the slurry flow and i dont get slurry out of the gun. I'm thinking the issue here is my nozzle size (4mm). Having it bigger would allow more air out throught the nozzle and less going in the slurry hose. What nozzle size do you have? Thanks again!!
@@jeromemorin4016 There should not be any air going back in the slurry hose when the gun is spraying. My air jet inside the blast gun is 4mm. The nozzle on the gun is 8mm. The nozzles in the slurry hoses that mix up the water and glass beads are 6mm each. I run @ 50 psi of air pressure and my system works great. You should make a video so I can see your set up to help you get it working better. Seeing how you have yours plumbed up will help me troubleshoot yours.
That was a door mat I found at a hardware store. I had to put support braces under it , because it was too flimsy. It is really hard to find something to use for that shelf. Good luck.
In one of my earlier videos I go into the CFM needed.Off hand I don't remember. I would guess that it needs @10-12 CFM. The blast nozzle air jet determines the CFM needed. The air jet is inside the gun. I had to make a smaller one to work with my compressor. Most of these types of nozzles need at a minimum of a 5hp compressor to work well.
I buy everything from Ebay.www.ebay.com/itm/1-5HP-Water-Submersible-Pump-Stainless-Steel-Silver-Clear-Dirty-Pool-Pond-Drain/132314015745?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649
Happy-Days, I got the check valve from ebay. www.ebay.com/itm/Two-1-2-12mm-Aluminum-Alloy-One-Way-Fuel-Non-Return-Check-Valve-Diesel-Petrol/263550788973?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649
I know your video has been out for a while now and I am actually about to start converting my HF cabinet this week but I am just curious what the function of the check valve is on this setup and why you need one? I can't imagine the pump is going to lose prime...
@@Dynodon64 Yes sir I just realized as I was looking at another video the check valve was on the air line. I was thinking it was for the water line. Thanks!
How did I miss your awesome setup? Really great explanation and even better build!!
Submersible pumps have to be covered by the water as it has no other means of cooling. It uses the water to cool the motor.
You should never get a submersible pump wet :)
Auhhh… that’s why they are called submersible
Motorcycles and art built a good one,might have a go at one of these good vid cheers
Thanks for taking the time to show off your setup.
Great job on the blaster
Dude!!... forget the pump, show us your airplane haha....never mind I see your other videos 👍
Nice setup thanks for the video👊👍
Thanks for posting 👍 Nice setup.
If that’s a submersible pump you can cover it with water. I’m thinking your pulsing is because you don’t have enough water
Dude I love your Corsair!
Always appreciated.
It seems as though you didn't really test this before you did the video and you are in doubt as to whether your setup is working or not. Correct? I actually think you have too much bypass there with those two big 1 inch hises in the bucket and not enough pressure coming out of the gun because all of the pressure is being released through them.
Yes there was too much bypass going through the two hoses. That's why I put a restrictor in both hoses. That took care of the surge. Now the system works great. Love using the machine.
I notice you don't have a float switch, did you remove your's, if so are they easily removed? I've just bought a cast iron 3/4 HP 5020 GPH pump for my system along with a marine extractor to take away smog caused by blasting, saw this in another video and it work's great.
FYI, the pulsating air can cause your compressor pressure regulator switch to go haywire and fail. Ask me how I know, hahaha.
Thank you for posting this Build. Pardon my ignorance, but can you explain how the pedal controls both the air and the pump? I can understand a foot activated air valve, and I can understand a foot activated on switch, but how are they both ran off of the same foot control, or are they?
hello. what granulation do you use? what abrasive? what chemistry?
glassbeads 170-320 grit
Great job , would having your bypass hose pointing around your container make the bead (heavier) move to the outside with centrifugal force ? maybe pointing it straight down ? , I think at the moment the word wet or vapour blast is creating a Gold rush for the companies making them , sure good ones are make of Stainless and have a water pump and a few extras , but a dry blast cabinet might cost $ 2000 usd but a wet blast one will cost $ 15-20,000 , crazy .
The bypass tubes are more accurately agitation tubes. I see what your saying, but that doesn't seem to be what's happening in mine. It does a very good job of mixing the glass evenly with the water. It really gets the beads off the bottom and stirred well. Thanks for the thoughts.
hello sir..just wondrin how did you bypass or remove the float switch? do you have a sort custom diagram for it's conversion to a foot switch or control switch? thank you in advance sir
Hi Dynodon , Have you done any improvements on your vapor blast cabinet over the past months ? Are you happy with your slurry agitation set up ? And what’s the latest handgun you are using ?
No improvements at all. The agitation works great, I still use the same gun as in the videos. I just need to get more glass beads to refill the mix.
@@Dynodon64 many thanks for your kind reply Sir. When you pour media to bucket, is the pump’s propeller staying above the underlying media before you add any water ?
@@keremustunkaya9650 The pumps impeller is up inside the base of the pump. So the media is not able to get to it at first. The media is so small, that when you add water, it mixes up very fast as the pumps kicks on and starts to stir up the water. Hope that helps.
Great video. I have looked at Home Depot and Lowes for that basin, do you remember which department they have it in? Thank you.
I bought this one from Lowes. It's in the isle with the sump pumps, water heaters.
@@Dynodon64 Thank you, I will go look again for it.
Hi Dynodon64, I'm still trying to figure out why you selected a high volume pump? 4500 GPH or thereabouts seems like overkill since your only pumping upwards of no more than 3 feet and reducing the output flow from 1 1/2" or thereabouts to 5/8" hose? what would be the disadvantage of using a low volume pump say under 1000 GPH?
The first pump I used wasn't high enough flow or pressure, but it worked until the seals gave out. This higher flow pump works a lot better. You need a high flow because most of the flow is directed into the glassbead/water mix to stir it up. You need to get the glass beads mixed well with the water. That is why there are two hoses in the bottom of the tank.
@@Dynodon64 So I'm guessing even a pump around 2000GPH should be sufficient and if not perhaps reduce the hose size for the slurry mix hose to agitate it hopefully that should be adequate. It did seem like overkill with such a high volume pump to perform a simple task. thanks for the quick reply! Cheers!
Just a quick question is your impeller plastic or metal ? Thanks wayne
The impeller is plastic. The pump was bought on Ebay.
Thank you got my eye on one
Where can I buy the vapor cabinet.
I bought the cabinet from Northern Tool. It was over $600.
Thanks for sharing. Does water shoot up from the that black rubber hole in the top of the pump and make a mess.. or is it blocked somehow.
That's a vent for the pump that lets air out. It squirts just a small amount of water and doesn't make a mess. If the air doesn't come out, the pump will not prime up. Works fine.
Simple, east build! About to build one of these, have a 8mm nozzle, similar pump....I know you mentioned 40psi but what CFM are you running from the compressor.
I think my 60 gallon five hp does 11 cfm @ 40 psi, and 9 cfm @ 90 psi. You need to size the air jet to match your compressor. It needs as much as a dry blast cabinet uses. I run between 40 - 60 psi.
@@Dynodon64 awesome thanks!. I’ve got shop air at around 15cfm at 60psi, and a gas tow behind that puts out 125cfm at 100psi. Just wanted to see which one I should start with.
@@Adam_Warso The 15 @ 60 should work just fine. I can run non stop with mine and the compressor runs the whole time, but shuts off in a few seconds when I stop blasting. My air jet is perfect.
@@Dynodon64 thank you so much for getting back to me, happy new year!
Need more water is all
I’ve been seeing a lot of these conversions on CZcams lately. What are the advantages?
They are non destructive, like sand blasting or even glass beading. It has more of a polishing effect, and returns part to like new look.
Hey Don, did you take the top off the pump and detach the float?
Hai sir..i see you video. Sorry if my english noy good.. Can you tell my.. What compressor you use?3hp or 5hp
5hp 60 gallon 11cfm @ 90 psi.
Ha ha your funny! You have a submersible pump designed to be COMPLETELY submersed! Hence the name submersible in case you didn't know! 3:31 We laughed and laughed for hours ! Thanks for the comedy!
Just because a pump is labeled submersible, doesn't mean it has to be submersed. This pump comes with a float switch that shuts off the pump when the water level is below the top of the pump. Submersible, just means it is able to be fully submersed. Not that it has to be.
@@Dynodon64 That's true, but your comment was that you were worried about the possibility of water getting into the pump! That's the point! It's designed to be submerged so why would that even be an issue?
@@user-zx7tg4ph5r Because that's exactly what happened to the first pump. Water got into the motor and ruined it.
@@Dynodon64 did you ever figure out how or where the water entered into the pump? Was it dropped? Hairline crack somewhere? Otherwise it's waterproof.
What are the ingredients in the working water?
5 gallons of water and 25 pounds of very fine glass beads.
Have you used some chemicals mixed in the water?
Have you used some chemicals mixed in the water?
@@user-vb5kk1md1o No, only water.
Can you tell us what pump you're using and the model number of the gun? Great video by the way.
Both item were bought off of Ebay. The pump is 4300 GPH and are listed as 1-1/5 HP submersible. Here's an item number for one listed. 362088268827 Just put this number in the search bar on Ebay. The nozzles are all over there as well. Just search for sand blast nozzle or gun.
Dynodon64 thanks Don, appreciate the help.
Hey DynoDon… wondering how your pump is performing?
I bought the same pump and it didn’t last long it’s very fine garnet. I’m guessing it chewed out the seal and water got into the motor. Is yours still alive?
So far mine is holding up just fine. I use the very fine glass beads. 170-320 grit.
@@Dynodon64 great to hear. I’ll change my media and see how I go?
Do you do a cleaning process before using the fine glass beads on more heavily corroded parts?
Just curious what you have figured out is the best ratio of media to water? Media (weight) to water (gallons) Thank you.
I use 25 pounds of media to 5 gallons of water. So a 50 pound bag would use 10 gallons of water.
@@Dynodon64 thank you sir.
Hello, what diameter do you need glass beads to have a shiny surface?
The glass beads are 170-320 grit. It's very fine.
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Thank you so much, you really help me out !
Building a similar unit and I have the same weird pulsation at the nozzle. Im wondering if its not the air making its way in the slurry line. I'm thinking of adding a check vamve on the waterline. But it might be the gun also. Did you figured out the source of the problem?
I had to reduce the size of the hose outlet for the slurry mix hoses. I used sand blast gun nozzles in the ends of the two slurry mix hoses. Just went smaller until the pulsing stopped.
@@Dynodon64 ok thanks for the input. Did pretty much the same built, same pump and hose size but for some reason, air is fighting against the slurry flow and i dont get slurry out of the gun. I'm thinking the issue here is my nozzle size (4mm). Having it bigger would allow more air out throught the nozzle and less going in the slurry hose. What nozzle size do you have? Thanks again!!
@@jeromemorin4016 There should not be any air going back in the slurry hose when the gun is spraying. My air jet inside the blast gun is 4mm. The nozzle on the gun is 8mm. The nozzles in the slurry hoses that mix up the water and glass beads are 6mm each. I run @ 50 psi of air pressure and my system works great. You should make a video so I can see your set up to help you get it working better. Seeing how you have yours plumbed up will help me troubleshoot yours.
@@Dynodon64 Great thanks! Will work on it tonight and show you after!
What size of glass beads do you use? 100-300 microns?
It's sized by grit not micron 170-340 I think.
@@Dynodon64 Thanks!
good morning what's the flow of this pump
4300 gallons per hour 1-1/2 hp
thanks
hi Dynodon , could you tell me the specs of the pump?
www.ebay.com/itm/362088268827?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=0J0q-zDNS7S&sssrc=2047675&ssuid=eF6m8p-3R8a&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY
How many Kv have Your water pump ?
Ebay www.ebay.com/itm/364158373118?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=bmj_jkjytvs&sssrc=2047675&ssuid=eF6m8p-3R8a&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY
Where do you get that pump?
Ebay
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What compressor you use for this ?
5Hp 60 gallon. You need a big compressor capable of at least 15 cfm or more at the pressure you want to blast at. Like 40-60 psi.
Please let me know where you purchased the "floor" that fits into the tapered lower portion of cabinet. Thanks!
That was a door mat I found at a hardware store. I had to put support braces under it , because it was too flimsy. It is really hard to find something to use for that shelf. Good luck.
How many cfm does it require
In one of my earlier videos I go into the CFM needed.Off hand I don't remember. I would guess that it needs @10-12 CFM. The blast nozzle air jet determines the CFM needed. The air jet is inside the gun. I had to make a smaller one to work with my compressor. Most of these types of nozzles need at a minimum of a 5hp compressor to work well.
whats the model number and make of this pump please i need one for my build
I buy everything from Ebay.www.ebay.com/itm/1-5HP-Water-Submersible-Pump-Stainless-Steel-Silver-Clear-Dirty-Pool-Pond-Drain/132314015745?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649
What chemicals do you use?
Water and very fine glass beads.
Yo yo!!! wtf is up with that Corsair????
Go to my channel and watch the build videos on the Corsair project.
Are you have wa
Happy-Days, I got the check valve from ebay. www.ebay.com/itm/Two-1-2-12mm-Aluminum-Alloy-One-Way-Fuel-Non-Return-Check-Valve-Diesel-Petrol/263550788973?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649
I know your video has been out for a while now and I am actually about to start converting my HF cabinet this week but I am just curious what the function of the check valve is on this setup and why you need one? I can't imagine the pump is going to lose prime...
@@CraftwerksMC The check valve keeps the water from being blown back into the air line and getting media and water into the air regulator valve.
@@Dynodon64 Yes sir I just realized as I was looking at another video the check valve was on the air line. I was thinking it was for the water line. Thanks!