Who Are The Rosicrucians? - Rudolf Steiner
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- The Rosicrucians, as depicted by Rudolf Steiner, are a mystically inclined group deeply rooted in esoteric Christian traditions, dating back to the 17th century.
Steiner portrays Rosicrucianism as misunderstood and often misrepresented, emphasizing the Rosicrucian commitment to spiritual and moral enlightenment rather than the commonly held view of them as a mere historical or magical brotherhood.
He describes Rosicrucianism as a profound path of initiation, comparable yet distinct from other spiritual traditions like Oriental yoga or gnostic Christianity.
Steiner asserts that Rosicrucianism holds significant Christian mysteries and addresses modern spiritual dilemmas, suggesting its enduring relevance and potential future impact on human consciousness.
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🎶 Music used in the video:
1. 'Gregorian Chant' - Kevin MacLeod
2. 'Virtuts Instrumenti' by Kevin MacLeod
3. 'This Fascinating World' by CO. AG Music
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🎓Sources:
THE CHRISTIAN MYSTERY, GA 97 - Who are the Rosicrucians?- Rudolf Steiner, 16 February 1907, Leipzig.
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⌛ Chapters:
0:00 Introduction
0:22 The Rosicrucian enigma
02:22 Initiation and the essence of Rosicrucianism
04:25 The three different ways of initiation
6:54 The path of the Rosicrucian
8:54 Training to become a Rosicrucian initiate: Proper study
11:20 Training to become a Rosicrucian initiate: Developing powers of imagination
15:49 Training to become a Rosicrucian initiate: Learning the occult script
17:50 Training to become a Rosicrucian initiate: Finding the philosopher's stone
20:49 Training to become a Rosicrucian initiate: Knowing the human being as a Microcosm
22:11 Training to become a Rosicrucian initiate: Coming to know the Macrocosm and getting to know Godliness
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A Rosicrucian turned me on to a book called MAN BEING VOLUME 1: THE TRANSMISSION. Changed my life. Paying it forward.
A boo? 👻
What is it about?
@@iceman5467 discusses mankind’s hidden origin story and knowledge of afterlife.
@@Gnomeof9 did you end up reading it?
@@roccosage8508where can I find it
" Esoteric groups maintain keys, preserve knowledge. But the moment someone becomes capable of being given a particular system of knowledge, a particular secret, then that key is delivered. Until someone is ready, the group has to wait; it has to wait for centuries even. And it is very difficult to replace one person from them. It cannot be decided by the others. The eight have to find a person who is capable, and even a capable person has to be trained before he enters the group. Sometimes the group works on a person for many lives, and then the person becomes capable of replacing a member. And if no one is found, that key is lost, and that key cannot be found again by this esoteric group. It can be found again only when a person like Buddha happens. The esoteric group can only preserve, communicate. It cannot discover, discovery is not within their capacity.
So many keys are lost. Many groups have worked, and many are still working. The Rosicrucians have been a parallel group in the West. It has worked for centuries. Really, it is not a Christian group, it is more ancient than the Christians. Rosicrucians are of the esoteric group of the Rosy Cross. The cross is not just the Christian symbol, but older than Christ.
Christ himself was initiated by an esoteric group known as Essenes. All the Christians holy days -- for example, Easter or December 25 -- are older than Christ. Christianity only absorbed the old tradition. Jesus himself belonged to an esoteric group that conveyed to him many things which he tried to convey to the masses."
False.
Don’t see where you got that from, got a link or something?
@@jayk8756 from a talk by Osho
Conspiracy theory
@@jayk8756 from a talk by Osho
Interesting indeed, I would love to learn more.
Greetings!🙏🙌 Thanks for the enlightening knowledge and message, from a fellow traveler and seeker!☝🌹🕊
You’re welcome ✨🦋
The question is which of the many Esoteric schools of initiation present in modern times is the one fit for our real stage of
Spiritual development now …. Whit out
Forgetting that after the monumental
Entering Of Christ at Golgotha the whole
Earth evolutionary process change
So the question is where are they now as the continuing streams to modern times
Christ is the Center of our development
For the simple reason that there is something added to our whole organism
We’re you May say in a transitional moment
So to find the right alignment and stream
Is crucial……
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@@soniasaldarriaga5166 Dude. WTF. We will soon be fighting for our life. WTF.
Ase
Come on Dude give a brake to contemplation .... .... ....
Do not at any mcdonanld's like establishment, you get *just* what is served to you???
'Do no't oNLY at HomE YOU can make ACTUALLY your own CHOICE ???
Now, never mind a herd of sheep being on their own accord, just ponder however whether any shepherd would at any time ever teach a Border collie to own its own herd ????
This is marvellous!
Can’t wait to watch this later. I know this is gonna be a CERTIFIED hood classic! Best wishes for Peace Profound 🌹❤️🔥
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Peace profound to you too, friend.
"Certified hood classic" dawgs im rolling. And the facts are straight up boomin
…me too…❤historical content
Yooo the homies be intellectuals fr
Really enjoyed this video for insight and wisdom, thank you and blessings to you💯🙏🙏🔥🔥😇😇🕯🕯🧡🧡
Everything in divine timing!
For those who want more check out Rudolf Steiner, Dr Robert Gilbert, and Dr Ibrahim Karim
Blessings to all 🫂☮️💜
Thank you!
I'm feeling grateful and enlightened. ❤
My father was an expert on the industrial use of explosives in the United States. He once told me how after a shot went off and the dust was settling over the exploded Rock and he saw little Indian boys and girls run out after the explosion and he said it really unnerved him.
What are you saying
What
@@seniorm.1949 at 23 minutes into the video.
What does this mean?
We “tell the things that will serve progress” is something which is entirely lost on many people evaluating governance of the species.
In the 1980s, I saw a mysterious ad for the rosicrucian order. I sent away for an inquiry upon which they resent a questionnaire. One of those questions was: “are you willing submit to a higher power?” I didn’t like the nature of that question because it seemed like a cult. Boy am I glad I didn’t get involved.
Read Rudolf Steiner body of work
This content is by Him
Main books
Knowledge of the higher World
Occult Science
John gospel that is mention here
Happy journey in your quest to find the divine in you ✨🙏🦋
@@soniasaldarriaga5166 I already have. I have transformed into a trickster God. It’s all a grand play. All illusion. Your job is just enjoy it and wake others.
I returned a reply slip to the Rosey Cross Order, & like the Scientology lot they bombarded me with junk mail wanting subscription & money. Don't trust anything political or religious.
wow, good for you. i knew they are just as horrible as masons., honestly cant say which is worse.
@@Tyrell_Corp2019 If all is illusion what is it that is perceiving it all as illusion?
Fantastic channel🎉
What is the significance of the figure beaming from his 3rd eye? 💫
Very interesting video!
Blessed and infinite
Is THE ALL
You mean Satan
Thanks for video
Thank you.❤
1:51
No doubt you are aware but here just to say that the religious mystery school in England taking the form of literature called ‘Shakespeare’ and centred around Edward de Vere, Francis Bacon, John Dee, the Countess of Pembroke, and I suspect a discrete five others, are self consciously of the Rosey Cross (Rosenkranz and Guildernstern but innumerable other indicators). To my unscholarly estimation the secular literary free for all play-writing which developed out of the patronage of the 17th Earl of Oxford in the 1580’s - half-courtly (Hampton being Avon) and half-mercantile (the Globe and Rose) collapsed along with the earl’s finances in the early 1590s. But it then - through the Earl - went into an aristocratic Rosicrucian school whose members gathered, collated, improved and transformed all previous material in line with specific policies with spiritual and knowledgeable intention such as the history of England given dramatic form. Also included at this stage was all the gematria stemming from Dr Dee’s ‘angelic’ input as well as the vast familial and political tragedy reflected in the personal relations of the Earl, the Queen, and their son (indeed the Earl’s King) Wriothesley (pronounced imho Rosey) following on from the letter’s tragic participation in the failed Essex Rebellion and recorded in ‘The Sonnets’. And about which Hank Whittemore writes so eloquently along with a growing legion of commentators - Alan Green, Alexander Waugh, and John Anthony - all of superb and sometimes superlative insight.❤
Alan Green!!!!
Thank you ✨🙏🦋
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@@timmymcbastard4596 wake up timmy ! 🤣...✌
I remember seeing little recruitment ads for their org in cheap magazines. I think they were the Scientologists of their day.
Probably it’s the scientologists that vested themselves in Rosicrucians’ garb.
There were ever 12 real Rosicrusians. Modern day Rosicrusianism is Anthroposophy. It is open to any willing to take the path to self development.
Rudolf Steiner got alway,s the information to think about
links please to the images and symbols, wich books are?
the key is to know oneself....
Nice
Caught these guys at the Philadelphia Spectrum in ‘91, what a show, it was off the chain. The solo appearance in Eyes Wide Shut was pretty cool too.
As a child i came across the order in a book and alwsys wanted to know more
Very Interesting to Know…….
What was the part about the rock and bliss about? I dont understand it
It is about the light, abilities to receive
like all occultism its literally just a contrived system of mind control that has no real value other than that and isnt true in any way beyond that.
You didn't understand it because he was just rambling incoherently. For someone trying to explain spiritual matters, he didn't say one thing to explain any of those seven steps. I remember believing that some people had certain insight when I was about 20, and applying and even sending the ten dollars or whatever to get their snake oil. They promised to send someone to speak to me, but they lied. They just wanted more money. No one is "exceptional" in the way they claim, and the speaker admits it when he admits that he snubs some human beings. Whom do they snub? People who want to learn truth. You have to learn truth by research, and the Rosicrusians deter you from objective thought. They hate "imagination", and they hate "knowledge". Good grief, he even admits that they don't give out knowledge to people who want it. If you believe that they are good judges of human spirits, you're in for a big letdown.
Ty 🙏🏾
The rosy cross is not an organization or a group of people, a rose of the cross is what someone is.
You're grossly superficial!!! Just like "Aggripa" comes woefully short.
Its a brotherhood of enlightenment dating back no earlier than 1614, to hit the nail on the head with accuracy.
I remember splitting a stone in half, I felt like superman. The second one cut me, but still..
I once worked for a tile company, I 'd get on a forklift & pick up a rock so heavy the back wheels would sometimes leave the ground. I'd then place it on a huge metal disc cutting machine, the disc would then slice through the sizeable rock, cutting it down to more manageable pieces. One rock I cut into came all the way from China. A constant flow of water kept the cutting disc from overheating. More interesting than this highfalutin, highbrow documentary.
@@HookBeak_66 Dang. I was pretty good at a forklift. Wish you well. Pretty hard times comin'up. Take care.
To cleanse one's soul and reach at,one,ment through pious living and loving!
A seat at the table for those that become the stone, perhaps!
What a great story there love your interpretation,
you burn bright my friend !
@@squaredcircle1111what we’re learning here isn’t for here🫠
@@squaredcircle1111 If you need to ask.... Actually this existence goes back to the 17th century, officially and a lot further back, if you mean "in fact". You are talking your own timeline.
@@squaredcircle1111 What this video is about, goes back to the 17th century when the Rosicrucians came to be, and then further back to the start of the secret societies in Egypt. People who control the planet right now, are using ancient knowledge to rule the planet and for them we (you and me) mean zero. Some of us are fighting back by disclosing what they try to hide. They want to get rid of most of humanity because they no longer need us. (AI that they think they will be able to control among other things.)
@@squaredcircle1111
If I’ve learned anything in my time, it’s that the answers to such questions are not “out there”. The answers to such questions are unique to each of us, nobody else’s answers will be the right ones for you, even if there’s some resonance from time to time. It’s something you dig out of yourself, not something which can be received from someone else. At least that’s my opinion, and it could certainly be wrong.
@@KosmicJellyperfect! 👍🏼
I love your voice
Why is there so much advertising on your channel?
Can i use this on a music track?
Interesting.
I actually knew one upbeat guy . Was given a investigation to join. My life went a different way and had to move. Seeing this it's interesting to think what if .
What if. Try, what is. You can run, but you can't hide. Bro. We are at the beginning of the beginning.
Differently gotta mix it up thanks
Splendid
Howdy sir! My friends and I very much appreciate the work you’re doing with this channel and your primary one. I feel lead to ask, however, why you decided to split up the messaging between AD and VO?
I feel the comparison of High school vs College is applicable. Steiner isn’t easily understood unless a base of perception is laid out.
AD and VO?
@@JoshMonreaux Agrippas diary and Vox Occulta are the channel names.
This channel focuses on unearthing lectures from various mystics and occult teachers while Agrippa's Diary focuses on dissecting the respective schools of thought. Think of it like this:
Agrippa's Diary explores the theoretical/scholarly side of things from an objective standpoint while this channel turns to the subjective/practical approach to help the seeker absorb and apply those teachings. I hope this clarifies things, peace profound!
@@peachyokay4595 Steiner said by reading his books makes one to think and is part of the training itself.
“When the ears of the student are ready to hear, then cometh the lips to fill them with wisdom.”
Now that is good. Puts reality in context. It is the student who must accept order.
@@Itsaboutthewaterlife
The Kybalion (the Hermetic Teachings) as audiobook:
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@@Itsaboutthewaterlife
The Kybalion (the Hermetic Teachings) as audiobook:
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@@Itsaboutthewaterlife
The Kybalion (the Hermetic Teachings) as audiobook:
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Simple and critical
Rudolph Stiener once said that having Slavic background ( akka speaking the language) is opening soul to some knowladge. It referred to madam Blavatskaya and possibly Nikola Tesla.
How carbon t a.x.es relate to this teaching. Less is more?
You cant join the Rosicrucian's. One becomes a Rosicrucian through the perfection of the soul, development of occult powers, and through temperance and selfless service. Some people are Rosicrucians though they are not aware.
This^
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So what is the occult powers you speak of???
I can astral project but rarely, does this count?
All will be revealed just before death.
Exactly… if you are not yet open enough to receive it now.
Unfortunately even after death materialistic mind will be asleep for long time and have short time before the next incarnation.
Vox/Agrippa YOU are my teacher! 👆LVX 👇
Finally some revolation of most seicret teachings. Thanks 👍❤
There has never been a scene like in the thumbnail, never masks or costumes like that outside the realms of fantasy...
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The Virtuous Noble Lie as a Trap of the Ocult Agreement of Consent ❤️💚💜
Very interesting
very good
What's the difference between the Rosecrucians and the Hermectic Order of the Golden Dawn?
Thank you, very much 🤩🥰🥰🥰
Boom, later after speaking of the earths body as a reflection of its inside. It goes on to speak of plants. To look at yourself as or and the plant.
Plants have cells just like we do as humans have cells.
You see the plant on the surface, getting nutrients from the surface.
The sun. Even the cells get nutrients from rain.
You dont see your organs, yet you have them.
Just the same, the plant has organs, as they have roots.
Wich pull nutrients from the ground unseen.
Just as we do.
From farming.
I met one, his actions were noble, I won’t comment, but I actually respected, as a friend, rare,
All selfish wisdom is in vain . The truth in God is wisdom spoken for it was written for all whom believe.The God of Heaven is not in vain but power over all. His mystery is his alone , his word is his gift to mankind and nothing but faith shall receive it.
Rosicrucians have faith in the Lord. But they also have wisdom, some which the Church won't give out, because they know the public isn't ready to hear
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Spiritual awakening
We getting out the Dark Ages with this one …
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This sounds like a really cool secret treehouse club. " nO grLz aloow'd. "
Amen Brother lets keep this club right, lets keep it white
There is no big secret, but if you feel the urge create one, go ahead🙂
Ask leonard cohen
or you can learn Chinese, and access the theories as well as practical applications of The Knowledge, i.e, Traditional Chinese medicine, divination, geomancy, etc
Maybe in my next life I will be born in China 😊
@@Santino369 Why not start learning now?
@@shengsun5916 Well its bit difficult at the moment to be honest. There is no Chinese school near me, and online I don't think I can. Also im not that young, so I don't have the time and the mood sometimes..
@Santino369 I see, that's bit of a bummer, but I see you're in the realm of music, it is already big part of the fabric of space and time, just like Plato stated geometry is the mathematics in space, and music is the mathematics in time, and the combination of the two is astronomy. And the significance of the planets are their relationships echo your name with Tesla's awareness of 369 positioned in the circle of fifth.
@@shengsun5916 Im not in the field of music, I just love it.. love to hear and know about it, like scales, instruments, history... I also believe its all about frequencies and vibrations.. that's our universe. And you already mentioned this in your comment though in different words, but it all leads to the same conclusion I believe.
God breathed the soul into the all living . The OX-A-GEN.
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I have been in contact with some of these peolpe never met one in person.That i know of
I dreamt about how I became a butterfly. Am I now a butterfly dreaming that I became a man?
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Peace Profound ❤🙏🌹
Peace profound
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Give me the corner stone, that was rejected by the building masters.....
It's the corner stone of my foundation!
the Boondocks opening theme
@@stoplookinent4791not quite hut that’s what the first lyrics are based on yes 🙏🏼
And no mension of the fama fraternalis, you missed half of it
I like mine Rosacrustians on pasta!
Spune adevărul aici am făcut experiment in toate👌🏻
Read a book called HERMES UNVEILED, by Roy Norvill. The pdf can be found on the web.
This might have been interesting but I couldn't get past the fifth mispronunciation of Rosicrucian.
That's an interesting criterion of selection for dismising knowledge.
Can you translate that into some that makes more sense?
The grand secret is we do a little trolling there u go, yea grafting is also a big secret
There's no sound.
They live now in Golden Dawn Angelic magic.
#notanorgandonar I’ll keep my essence to myself 🙏❤️😚
That would be counterproductive!!!
@@virgilioblanco please stay away from me and my comments.
What?
@@masrrek5132 stay off my comments.
That was outstanding. How do I found a legitimate Rosicrucian Order? What are the legitimate bodies to join or request membership?
You found yourself! Join the club. Study Rudolph Steiner or get doctored by Dr. ( Vesica institute ).
@@attackofthewindmills I'm coming from the Hermetic variation of the same thing. Steiner is a stoner the All be praised! Why are you here asking questions?
@@douglasalfseike3867no offence sir , however calling steiner a stoner?
If so I want what he was on!
AMORC look it up
Lectorium Rosicrucianum ~ The Golden Rosycross ~ The works of J. Van Rijckenborgh
Even all that knowledge does not help 2 find happyness and meaning apart from impersonal senseless unity.
Uhhhh, what!? Am I the only one who is scratching their head while listening to this? I’m a fairly open minded kind of guy but this is just vague gibberish.
You are not alone.
The trees are upside down? Lol
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The 345 triangle is the magic of the universe.
Pythagorean theology is the religion of all the builders, heaven above and mortals below.
*were
Anyone who claims to *be is emulating a shadow long past
Charles Darwin.
What a profoundly nonsensical mosaic of parables.
Yet here you are "wasting your time". I always find it amusing! What nothing else to do?
Are people not allowed to be curious? Or read into things that are not known to them? Yet you seem anyone who does so as “waisting their time”. How dim.
@@observer1906 Had to stop the movie I was watching when your comment poped up on my computer. Nothing is more important that people's curiousity. I agree with you 100%. That is how we find the answer to question that no one has been able to answer before! Interesting enough that is the basic subject of the movie I was watching (the original Stargate movie). A lot about that movie and the shows that followed, was just great and more true than people could even imagine. SHK-Katt a joke!
The rose is a map pf the universe, not physical universe. Entire universe, with the different dimensions
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They never return my correspondence answers. Them or A.M.O.R.C. I don't think I'm a neophyte anymore
Actually, brothers and sisters.
Or past life
I'm not religious minded, but isn't the pursuit of knowledge without the senses and the use of imagery, against all religious teachings?
In psychological teachings, someone without those senses, particularly inner sensory perceptions, are often referred to as psychopaths, or sociopaths - those who have no emotional or ISP, which connects us to higher knowing, the Earth and each other.
Btw, when I mentioned ISP etc, I'm not talking about uncontrolled emotions, obsessions and passions. I mean pure, unadulterated senses, without corruption of the mind, such as fear, anxiety, depression and the likes.
Honestly i just thought the DaVinci Code was really cool.
Technology perceived as magick to the common- 42👽⚜️🗺️⚖️