Decoding Ahriman, Satan & Lucifer - Explained By Rosicrucian Thinker Dr. Robert Gilbert
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- Rosicrucian thinker, Dr. Robert Gilbert, distinguishes between the energies of Ahriman, Satan, and Lucifer. He reveals how knowledge of these energies can sharpen our discretion and aid us on the spiritual path.
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This knowledge was disseminated by Rudolph Steiner over a century ago. It's good to see this important information is being brought out in a new light and era.
"Know thyself so that you may know the Universe and the gods." ~ Socrates
Oh..so that's the entire saying..😂thank you...from Greece 😅😅
I love Dr Robert Gilbert's brilliant and clear articulation of these complex concepts and levels of reality.. True wisdom and knowledge.
You mean there’s more than one baby Jesus, king of the Jews!?
I guess the definition of eloquence is dependant on the vocabulary & syntactical style of each individual social group.
And the definitions deemed correct, accurate and contextually tangible to each sector?
Which leaves the question….who makes the decision on definitions? If any one person at all, and how did they conclude their synopsis with generalised accuracy?
That there is always a book or system which came before, means as a person always comes second 😆; not that that is supposed to sound like a subjective sexist joke, but it does ask questions regarding the space each person requires to live in a modicum of comfort and free of distress. Whether there is something which needs to be found In oneself, or something which needs to be hidden?
I mean…how does one process ‘Rolling Stones gather no moss’, if they are themselves a rolling stone? And it’s not like it’s nearly Easter and the bored’s are waiting for the resurrection 🐣, or turning over the next century’s gravestones.
You have to be a bot.
There are several portions of the text that could be considered subjective, ambiguous, or word salad:
- Discussions of spiritual beings like Lucifer, Aramon, Christos, etc. make claims that cannot be objectively verified. Referring to them risks anthropomorphizing complex energetic phenomena.
- Descriptions of "thought forms in the mind of God," spiritual and causal planes, etc. use terminology that is not well-defined and open to various interpretations.
- Discussions of the "middle path" versus going to spiritual or materialistic "extremes" are subjective value judgments about spirituality and human evolution.
- Claims about temporal or geographical imbalances between Luciferic and Aramonic tendencies seem impossible to substantiate and risk overgeneralization.
- Discussions integrating concepts from varied belief systems like Egyptian, Greek, Jewish, Christianity without clarifying controversial translations/interpretations.
- Lengthy passages with complex nested terminology come across like "word salad" that may sound profound to insiders but will be ambiguous or confusing to outsiders.
The primary purpose seems to be discussing metaphysical/esoteric concepts using terminology familiar to those immersed in genres like mysticism, gnosticism, hermeticism, etc. However, the language is frequently ambiguous, anthropomorphic, and lacks precision, making many claims difficult to assess objectively. This type of language may be intentionally ambiguous to avoid dogmatism, allow for varied interpretations, or discuss ineffable spiritual phenomena. But it risks communicating little substantive information to outsiders.
Wow, incredible lecture, my decade long research into the esoteric knowledge has helped my understand 90% of this video. Divine thanks...
That's funny, because in contrast- I feel like the esoteric knowledge in this video has just helped me finally understand 90% of this past decade
@@ShaunVillafana🥰 beautiful synchronicity
@@ShaunVillafanaeach of us has a part, a place, a knowledge or knowing no one else has! We ALL matter we ALL contribute in one form or another.🙏🏻🧐❤️
I feel so much gratitude for my spiritual path Sri Vidya after 20 years of other sādhāna I have get this gift, everything this guy is explaining is exactly this tantra. ❤
Thank you Dr. Gilbert for your work! Thank you for your deep way of seeing and open up about. Thank you for making it all less complicated. I grew up with a balanced Waldorf group starting when pregnant with first child - and now after 35years (2 boys) only now I can understand by researching Consciousness (past 3years) how rich Steiner's messages are. Like Einstein and Nikolas Tesla have downloaded - you can feel if knowledge comes from a source connection. I never read him, but I was impressed at that time by the loving consciousness going through especially his PRACTICAL work he created - so rich - nobody I know of ever did. Steiner has bridged the shamanic esoteric spiritual knowledge! He created: A school-system. A Bio-dynamic agriculture. And once you know how it works - it is all to help us to grow into the Beings we are meant to be by helping to keep a connection to our inner Self. I just started to understand the depth!!!!!
I’ve never heard of ‘Steiner’. Can you elaborate please? Or title of book. Thank you🙏🏻❤️
Dr Gilbert IS THE MAN!!!!
1:09 That's the exact-same conclusion I came to.. Albeit from an Orthodox Christian background but it's good to see him elaborate on it, especially with alchemical terms..
That was the best description of Lucifer and Ahriman paths. Thank you
What makes a person impose on themselves life as a narrative? Surely conversion and covert communication is the antithesis of spiritual health? The sublimation of self identification, to be part of a greater? That is not unity, but psychospiritual and cultural corrosion.
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Are you sure you're using some of your words in the right context?
@@Apollyon-33What she's trying to say is that life is not a narrative. Narratives are able to be manipulated. But if you tell yourself that you can manipulate the narrative around the life you live, the balance of chaos and order will restore themselves and your narrative will tear at you piece by piece until you're reborn into a body that has no will or power. A smote of dust is all you can be amongst the vast bodies of consciousness that surround you.
@EnKiLil^
@@lucyhanks500Am I on the right track?
Peace and Love to you all ♥️
You too
Drummers do that since the beginning before we spoke. Right hand , left hand = 1 😮
Brilliantly put, Robert!! Thank you Andre!
Amazing explanation of a rather difficult esoteric subject. He gave me an even deeper understanding of the 3 pillars. Such a great teacher!
Grateful 🙏
This was a great talk today and it's appreciated. Kudos.
This was a great tutorial Thank You Thank You Thank You ! I've saw it before but I needed this again to enlighten the other things I've learned. DR. Gilbert is a Fantastic teacher sincerely Thank You ❤👏👍😊
This is so fascinating and sooo well explained ! 🤩
THANK YOU!!! Probably the most profound knowledge and wisdom about the forces in play. And this in 20 minutes- pure enlightenment.
other names of Satan ... are Amun , Amen , Anu , An , Jesus , Yahweh , Amon ,
what was the second name again ? AMEN ,
what do people say , after their INCANTATION TO Satan ? they finish the incantation off with the word Amen , the NAME OF SATAN himself ,
the prayer / incantation TO Satan , is all part of religion , who do you THINK created religions in the first place ? to keep us ALL separate !!!!
would a god who loves us , do that ? i don't think so ... , but a Satan would ...
grind this little information over in your mind ... it will be the ONLY thing in this world that makes sense , full complete sense
Best description of Satan and Lucifer. West vs East
Satan and Lucifer are the same person. When Lucifer was cast out by Saint Michael, he became Satan. This despicable being wishes the worst to any of us.
But our Creator, the true living God wants us in Heaven, repentant and kind to one another. He can crush the ennemy easily anyday but His infinite wisdom has decided otherwise 🙏✝️🙏
@@doudsbassthis is not biblical. Not mentioned once in the Bible
Saturn and Venus
@@Diego-fd3we correction, it is however you were reading the Bible literally. Jesus said he spoke in parables, and those with eyes to see ears to hear will understand he even repeats this before he says certain things that have multidimensional depth.
Read revelation, but apply the seven churches to the seven chakras. Sophia is referred to as wisdom in the Bible.
This is the beautiful thing of the Bible. It speaks to you at whatever level you are holding.
@Diego-fd3we and probably won't, we will.be talking about 6 thousand years back. The Bible only goes back up to 2000 years back. If you don't understand why you clearly don't belong here this might be too shocking, the Bibles job is to help others only. Were the Bible comes from is not called Bible is mythology and we have to start from the begining
This was so helpful to me. This was finally the explanation I needed.
Amazing conversation. Thank you. ❤
I have been studying Rudolf Steiner/Anthroposophy/Spiritual Science for 50 years. Know I was a Rosicrucian in the past. Interesting talk. Michael has ascended to an Archai and Vidar has moved into Michael's Archangel place. Michael is the Regent of Christ.
Wow, powerful message. Dope video
Wow. Good stuff.
Helps my head. And heart.
And body.
Perfectly articulated. Thank you!
Fantastik dr.Gilbert as always. Thank you.
24:56 Fixed relativelies within your life helps you to stay within the Christ-Effect-Flow in an Autopoietic way.
Examples of fixed stabilizers are:
Duty (Action)
Service (Action)
Meditation (Devotion)
Scripture (Knowledge)
Marriage (As a Way)
Wow. This is amazing. Thank you sir.
Very powerful and uplifting knowledge
That was very good information. Thank you.
I love listening to Dr. Gilbert! Thanks for hosting a great show, and allowing us the learn more about these topics.
Great video! Thanks ❤
A brilliant human being. What a placer to listen his knowledge!
16:40 This is a beautiful explanation... thank you
God is the Light of the heavens and the earth.
The example of His light is like a niche within which is a lamp,
The lamp is within glass, the glass as if it were a pearly [white] star,
Lit from [the oil of] a blessed olive tree,
Neither of the east nor of the west,
Whose oil would almost glow even if untouched by fire.
Light upon light.
God guides to His light whom He wills.
And God presents examples for the people,
and God is Knowing of all things.
The Verse of Light (Arabic: آیة النور) the 35th verse of the 24th surah of the Quran (Q24:35).
This was phenomenal
Thank you!!!!! 👏 👏 👏 👏 👏 so many need to hear this. I'm so happy I stumbled on this video. Blessings! 🙏
Yes, I like the information that Dr, gilbert is sharing with us . I need it,,
Dr RG is so far ahead of his time
Amazing explanation 💯
@ 22:21 THANK YOU!!! I've been saying this for ages!
I was looking at some clips of the book of urantia just yesterday and they depict Lucifer In a fundamentalist way just like Robert said we shouldn't haha thanks for the clarification. I love your series on Gaia btw! Thanks
Thank you 🌟
Wow. Incredible. Thank you.
Thank you for taken ( A )to the right path I totally agreed whit you and to the host Kudos 👏
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Interesting discussion ❤
Thankyou dr Robert Gilbert clampham junction London❤
Wow i kept saying how some are so blinded by the light the refuse to see what's happening in the darkness which is enabling it to continue
3:19 yes even enemy (own negative thought gets a role= the contradiction =against, translates judgment, competes, dark matter translation .. very clear to understand this equazion.❤
Please dumb that down a bit so i can get it if possible
The more positive I categorize my mind this present moment simotaniously fused with urs since we are one. My inspired thought = the cherry on top of the cake = the sun and ur emotions reflect
Ur
Emotions.. =‘my children’s =
✨ ❤❤❤ words are keys 🔑 bless
You’re a legend!
hahaha Dr. Gilbert ... Great sandbox analogy! you're aweome! love your work
As someone who follows the Christian mystic path this talk is fascinating. I totally disagree with the majority of it, but still enjoyed listening to this man’s wisdom and interpretation.
Now the Spirit explicitly says that in later times some will depart from the faith, paying attention to deceitful spirits and the teachings of demons,
Disagreed too with alot of it. He's very good at passing a Message though I'll give Him that
Isn't Arhiman same as Lucifer? What about Ahura Mazda??
Disagree with what...
@@bernardobarba8490 this is Zoroastrianism and not Christianity or Eastern Christianity. Zoroastrianism comes off as Monotheistic but it’s not - it is very polytheistic.
Thanks!
get the dude some water man.
This guy is naturally ASMR af lol
😂😂😂
Lmfao you know
😂
He's so thirsty😂
The thing dr. Robert said about that the east part of the world is more influenced by lucifer reminded me of Rudolf Steiner, who taught about the human incarnation of lucifer in China in the third millennium b.c.
Very interesting and very well explained. Thanks a lot :)
My applause to the host. Knows how to interview ❤🙏🙏🙏
20:09 I find that acts of service without an attachment to a specific outcome, is a beautiful way to stir love as the potent active ingredient for harmony between the two.
"Damn Because" - AC probably
Brilliant!
Just like I do is how it's done how much Faith can one soul carry when your Faith carries you.
Everything is energy and energy in form and structure is information.
In form-at-ion means
(in form) & structure
( at )- a position
( ion ) an electrical charge.
This charge, is you, not complying...
This shape and structure is always one of three structures, a circle, triangle or a square. and yes, all energy is the definition of 3, plus-minus-Zero. An atom = electron, proton, neutron/ Earthe is a Sphere, a circle described by Radius- diameter-circumference/ North Pole, Equator, South Pole. Sun= plus - Moon= negative, Earth= zero.
Everything is NOT energy, you have energy frequencies and vibrations
The earth is “level” but I agree with everything else you said
I resonate with this. ❤🌹
up up. down down left right left right B A select start.
Exactly!
OMG he knows everything!
No, that's Ken Wilber.
I'm struggling to wrap my mind around Lucifer being, effectively the good guy. But do remember reading that Jesus and Lucifer are the same.
Where did you read this? Is it a book?
@@theskepticjamaican7129 I've heard read this a couple of times over the years, I remember it simply because of the contradiction in my comprehension of the "facts"! Unfortunately I can't specifically remember where.
Yes, same archetype
Son of the Morning / Morningstar . ❤
I've known this for a long time .. I'm a Christian and I have a tattoo of Lucifer. Think more in terms of Prometheus and Jesus, not as in the new testament fallen Angel.
Thought forms from the whole.
Two polarities that cross over..
Also will form a whole where overlapping.
So they have a lil thought form too?
19:12 I'm totally digging this info
7:31 The relationship between Counterparts is stimulated and stirred in the Sacred Space between the two surfaces
So Satan is a form of Ahriman?
Man I can identify so much with the complications surrounding trying to explain these concepts to others. It's so easy for me to forget that it took me years to truely understand it due to my conditioning. I rarely try anymore but I love hearing others explain it so precisely because it finally makes sense to me. Ty Dr Gilbert
Yes people will froth at the mouth with knee-jerk reactions when you say satan and Lucifer are not the same entity. Left Right Brain hemi sync. Head heart and hands / Thoughts Words and Actions in alignment ❤
Great ... Danke !
8:39 The Christ Force is the catalyst for Moral Technology... this Force expresses as Grace.
12:34 The Scale of Man image (as per my personal graphic design) assists well in teaching these Counterparts, without scaring the poop out of people.
According to Theosophy and Anthroposophy, Ahriman and Satan are also not the same entity at all.
Saturn is Satan dude
Of course they aren't. This man is very good with wording, which is how he hypnotizes everyone. He KNOWS things, but I feel like he distorts facts to keep deeper truths hidden. Ahriman and Satan are not the same, ''Luciferic'' spirits are not giving false-truths (they lead directly to the understanding of what you could call truth, but by using fantasy as a technique, because most people will not accept certain truths unless it is given to them in a way that resonate with their being) and angels are certainly not ascended masters, they are kabbalistic egregores based on ancient minor caananite deities (hence why their names end up in El).
YES! Masonic dis, mis, mal - information agent/ gatekeeper/ pied piper ANYONE " telling deep secrets" on CZcams isn't revealing deep secrets. This is outter level knowledge.notvto mention the art of making " mystery " alluring as one is convinced that evil is acceptable and THEY are gaining special insights. Ego manipulation and escapism INTO cultish Stockholm Syndrome like spiritual servitude to darkness, packaged as enlightenment.
I fell asleep abt 4 minutes in. Really good sleep video. Watch out Jason Stephenson!
Das so faszinierende Luzifer / Ahriman Thema ganz wundervoll zusammengefasst - mit einer wohltuenden, angenehm ruhigen Stimme!
Vielen Dank, tut mir sehr gut ❤
So we people say amen after prayers, could this actually be saying arihman a rendition of ahman rah?
Im not sure if Satan and Ahriman are the same entity. The modern satanism and materialism do not always go too well together theoretically. In addition, Steiner does mention Satan as a separate being at least once (when he classifies him as archai and talks about its relation to Michael).
Outstanding explanation of polar spiritual forces
Lucifer ( light) and Ahriman (materialism)
But who is Satan?
The adversary? Like in Job?
He told you in the video. Satan represents Ahrimanic forces.
@@ether23-23 The story of Satan actually comes from the annunaki myth which was repurposed in mythology, he was most likely an alien, Enki. You can make any theory out of any spiritual concept. He is wrong about Lucifer as well, he is not pure light, he is equal part light and dark, the black sun.
10:00 It's a push-pull between the Counterparts of Spirit and Matter. You cannot exclude one or the other. There's a time for Paradise Imagination and a time for Specific Calculation, within the process of Creation.
Thanks
Incredible:)
What does he mean when he says 'cycles before us'?
We are on the Serpent's Path
Amazing
I like his Mandelbrot set shirt neonate embryonic Archon paisley pattern
Thank you, my good brother🙏🏼🥳🤔 now I know why Christ called peters Satan😳🫡✌🏾🕎🧬💫👑🌞💪🏼⚖️🌎. 🖖🏼
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The term maya or illusion it comes from the understanding that your avatar is here but your soul (real self) it just experience that. Like playing VR but when you are too long with the googles you might think theres nothing else outside of it
Lilith is she also the center in some beliefs?
Knowledge action
2:43❤ as indescribable the words of keys =‘ur words become the pen artist not drawing the picture of the light knowledge =
In u…
DANKE SCHÖN, SEHR WERTVOLL!
As a nga born in Compton growing up in hood settings... I should not understand this so well, but l am living proof! Thank you for this work.
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@TwisterTornado lol u kno how YT is. American Indian I am! What tribe I don't know....lmao I guess yhe tribe of ngas🤭
Ecc 8:17. then I saw all that God has done. No one can comprehend what goes on under the sun. Despite all his efforts to search it out, man cannot discover its meaning. Even if a wise man claims he knows, he cannot really comprehend it.
@12:21 and I agree 100% so far.
I wish i could master such knowledges !
As little as i know, live without eating animal blood !
6:01 The 5 Koshas as per Vedic Science
Yay Steiner
Tie spirit to body through water. Now ascend the red heat. Adhuti opens when it is aroused.
In short, prepare mercury and heat. Yw.