HOI4 Navy Guide - How to Win Against Submarines with Navy
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- čas přidán 19. 06. 2024
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How do you win against submarines with your navy?! In this guide we will teach you how to design a proper sub-hunting (Anti-submarine warfare/ASW) navy and how to make the most out of it. We will go through a couple of different design choices of Destroyers and Light Cruisers as well as an alternative carrier build. Moroever, we will look at how to use the patrol mission to find and sink submarines, and what you can do to increases your chances.
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0:00 Intro and upcoming guides
1:04 Convoy Escort vs Patrol
1:35 Finding the submarines
2:40 Design your fleet the right way
4:43 Spotting and boosting spotting speed
11:00 Testing and results
12:54 Alternatives and Navs - Hry
Firstly, the jumper is epic. Second, my GF is American and so I'm doing a Japan Hard run to destroy the yanks and this will really help. (and yes, I couldn't believe someone with 2300 hours on HoI could get a GF, but here we are somehow)
Hahah! Thanks! I thought it was the other way around.. the more hours you have, the more the girls hit on you ;)
Great guide, and love your jumper. 🙂
Haha! Thanks 😂❤️
Thanks a lot professor
I hope you liked it :)
Great guide but the North Sea region is shallow waters and has a -100% penalty to sub visibility. Should have probably tested on one of the other regions,, it would have been more fair :)
Aaaah, you’re so right. I was a bit tired when I made it. That explains a lot 😂 there was too much to keep track on already. Thanks for noticing
Good materials! Although it doesn't feel as family friendly as the other content on your channel.
😂
Awesome weather, even better Christmas sweater!! :)
Hahaha
Very informative, could there be a guide on countering strategic bombers in the future? Would make playing Germany more fun :D
Sure! I’ll put it in the “to do” list :)
it's actually extremely easy, build fighters. that's it, if you put 100 fighters in all the air zones they just won't bomb you because their fighters aren't in rage to defend the bombers in 99% of zones
Soviets can never contest you in the air (the ai doesn't get rid of the negative modifiers for ages) you should have plenty of planes for home defense
in the few zones that they can actually send fighters in full efficiency (North Coast of France and the balkans when Greece flips) you can put more planes in or build a few static aa.
just to clarify the interception mission completely disables the enemy bomber from doing the mission
@@samotter9509 I agree. I can handle strategic bombing against AI pretty well. My main concern is a multiplayer lobby where USA can have up to 4000 bombers as early as 1942😅
Hail Hygge!
Thanks mate ❤️❤️ :) where are you from btw?
@@hyggegaming The Great S A T A N. United States of America
Adding a single depth charge to those CLs would make them level up as well.
That is correct. However, at the low tech with few slots, I find it more usable to take all the slots for sea planes to push up sub detection. But it’s no absolute science :)
@@hyggegamingthere's one slot which you can't put a sea plane but you can put a depth charge
I've always just used convoy escort, I'll give the patrol mission a try next time. But wouldn't the CV task force require 6 screens for 100% screening efficiency? Since both the CV and the CA require 3 screens each.
I recommend looking at my video on convoy escort as well :) yeah, you’re completely right. An oversight from here. I would probably skip the CA unless I would assume I could run into enemy heavy ships
Does recon planes help with asw too? Im playing as Norway and it was a littlebit hard to survive. In my current run im doing well tho.
I built some of those recon planes but I dont know if they do anything.
I havent found any subs at all on escort mission. Some patrol task force decides to interfere with naval invasions and get wiped by the enemy supporting navy.
I get allot of destroyers from decisions and refit them.
I might be wrong here, but I'm pretty sure recon planes increase your naval intelligence depending on who's operating in that zone. More naval intelligence will help you in several ways, for example spotting speed and give you intelligence on where the enemy's at etc.
If you put your ships on escort mission, they will only try to engage in battle if your convoys are being attacked. So if you wish to actively search for submarines you should try the patrol mission instead. However, then you might find other ships in the region as well
If submarine detection is the average of all submarine detection, would it make sense to have task forces made up solely of sub-detector CL's?
Let the 27% sub-spotter light cruisers find the submarines, and then the Destroyers can sink the submarines.
Or does it work differently than that?
The sub detection stat is average on the task group. So each 3 DD and 1 LC share the stat in my composition. In this case, the LC do almost no damage as all slots are used for Sea planes. Do you mean that you would want to use destroyers as strike force? To get the sub detection even higher up? That could work I theory against one enemy sub group. But you want to engage many battles at the same time, so toy want to be able to fight directly at the engagement
Do naval patrol with aircraft also help significantly?
I thought air sup would help spotting. But I don’t think it does. However, scout planes help naval intelligence which helps. Navs and tacticals etc help making a lot of damage however :)
I've heard splitting your navs 50/50 for naval patrol and naval strike is stronger than going full naval strike, but I've never tested it myself.
Ok, nu är det klart att Svenska är ditt modersmål :)
Det stämmer :) /Badger
@@hyggegaming Vi sers i Stockholm.
Aaaagh how to use planes against subs? Playing as Denmark and getting reinf memed by germany on land while being bombed into oblivion is already bad enough, but their submarines are crippling me, and isnt possible for denmark to beat kriegsmarine, so plane it is. How should i do?
There’s no silver bullet to it. But navs or tacticals is a good and easy way to get rid of subs. Cheap ASW destroyers could work as well.
@@hyggegaming well, as mentioned cheap dd's just get torn to pieces by Kriegsmarine, and even being allied to UK royal fleet wont come to this particular part of the sea. But a guy in other comment found my issue: i was making naval bombers like we make carrier naval bombers: without floaters, and thus, they dont really detect subs🤣
Just reforming my bombers with floaters did the trick.
Thanks anyway, im loving the content!