Bringing back Klay Thompson DEPENDS ON THE PRICE đČ - Stephen A. talks Warriors' future | First Take
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- Bringing back Klay Thompson DEPENDS ON THE PRICE đČ - Stephen A. talks Warriors' future | First Take
On First Take, Stephen A. Smith, Chris âMad Dogâ Russo and Tim Legler join Molly Qerim to talk in-depth about Klay Thompson and the Golden State Warriors.
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âitâs about that strokeâ - Stephen A. Smith
U caught that too huhđđđ
Madness đđ
As in, Klay is playing like he had a stroke
No diddy
That did sound wild lol
They paid Klay $84 million while he was injured doing rehab. Klay should take the $20m and call it even. This way he can retire a Warrior.
You mean they were contractal bound to pay him while he was hurt...... They didn't do him any favors.
Might have to be sub 20 for the warriors to consider it. They paying a lot of guys rn. At this point your keeping dray over Klay, cutting cp3 because itâs a non guaranteed contract so you can free up 30mil that way, then still have to find a way to get off all of Wiggins money, and at that point your probably still over the cap, but you have klays bird rights. Warriors new GM said theyâre going to budget their team, and wonât settle for mediocrity with curry on the roster. They donât want to be in the luxury tax for as long as they already have been for so long. This team is probably one of the most expensive out of pocket teams.
To explain how bad the warriors situation actually is, thereâs only 8 teams that had a luxury tax bill in 23-24, the least expensive tax bill was the lakers at 7 million. The 5th most expensive team is the bucks with a bill of 52 million. The 2nd most expensive team is the clippers at 142 million⊠and the warriors are the most expensive with a bill at 177 million.
I think he will. The entire off-season hinges on what Steph wants. And he wants Draymond and Klay in. End of discussion. Looking forward to the 2025 Last Dance season
4yrs 60 million
@@shonen84weâre past last dance. Weâre into the greatest hits era. Klay and Dray are mascots more than players now.
Can you imagine Bron having Klay in a play in and he goes 0 for 10? They'd destroy him on here.
Na theyâd say Bron fans are throwing Klay under the bus
Yeah klay? Everyone knows they dr James and whoever is on his team gets killed whether they play good or bad
Yeah I know exactly what would happen. Most fans on social media would blame LeBron for Klay's 0-10 shooting night and say he got the ball to him at the wrong times and at the wrong angles. Lmao
If they let go of Klay, they first need to let go of CP3.
They canât afford to keep him. Heâll be a cap casualty no question regardless if Klay stays or not.
His name is Chris Paul not some PlayStation gane
I agree
Any other response to you would be sad, so I'll just tell you you're not funny or worth any more timeâ@@kurtmanning2667
CP3 is gone, regardless
Warriors donât owe Klay anything. They both benefited enough from each other. If we keep Klay then weâll never be competitive.
Iâve been saying this but our fans are so soft they keep trying to have Klay resign itâs ridiculous
He should retire. He's done.
Klay is a great shooter even as of now look at his efficiency and his numbers statistically klay is better shooter than majority of the players who signed a maximum contract this season klay is even 4th in three pointers made this season averaging 20 points per game so tell me why warriors should let go klay to the fact that he is still putting up those numbers. Warriors should atleast invest in interior and inside scoring by signing a bigman and let looney go
Exactly. Same selfish sociopath thinking of green. Dudes got paid; stop trying to sponge off of the new talent.
Warriors are bigger than both talents keep curry
He should take a pay cut if he wants to stay tbh
âCarry and ride him for a bitâ at 5:50 is insane đđđđđ
today's show is wild LOL
Only bring him back if you can get him on the cheap.
What is cheap though?
@@blablablaa14 sub 15M if possible. Ideally 10M
Win win if they keep him or not. Kerr is right about him having more good years left, Stephen A also had a point that if Klay leaves itâll give younger players on the comeup more playing time and chances to shine namely, moody
@@andrewsilva7542 -the guy who doesnât know what heâs talking about đ€Ż
Klay is single handedly holding back the warriors. He taking away minutes from players who have played better and and produced more
3 biggest mistakes:
1. Wasting 2nd pick in 2020.
2. Poole trade too late
3. Letting Green do as he pleases
Klay will get 20-25mill offer and that will be it. Problems will remain.
You're thinking is exact same as mine lol. Only thing you forgot is extending Kerr was horrible. And yeah, they'll overpay klsy because of the memories foolishly.
Thatâs exactly what caused the end of the dynasty, at least as we know it
Very classy of Klay Thompson to pay tribute to Jordan Poole with that shooting performance!
He had 0 points in a "win or go home" game! That's inexcusable. He needs a change, and the Warriors need a change. He needs to go no matter what price you can get him for.
Yup, but the past is going to make them pay him 25 million a year foolishly
they made good adjustment for Klay in the second half of the season coming off the bench. Then Kerr decide to put him back as starter again and when you see Klay taking dumb shots first quarter you know he got hotheaded again and it's over.
Kerr is just not a good coach when he doesn't have a stacked roster. 2022 is the only year that I really felt the Championship is "earned", and even then they had Mike Brown as defensive coach. I liked their 2015 run too, but the championship match was riddled with injury. During 2016, I believe they had the longest winning streak with Luke Walton acting as the coach while Kerr was absent? In 2017 and 2018 they had KD. There are not that many example where I can think Kerr had good coaching.
I think Klay still can play, but only if he can get over his ego and not take bad shots that he is able to make when he was in his prime before the injury, but not anymore. And I definitely don't think they'll win again with their current/past style when 1. the league has evolved to bigger roster being just as fast but taller so you have no advantage and 2. their current roster is older and slower.
Klay Thompson has my vote for the construction worker of the year. Bro went 0/10 in an elimination game while building homeless shelters with his bricks đ
Klank Thompson gone be working at Krispy Kreme after that Donutđ€Łđ»đș
Klank thombrick
At least Klay would have a job unlike duffman1876 on youtubeđ€Ł
lol klank Thompson is gold. Gonna use that now every time I slander him
ââ@@nsd_respect Duffman's a icon. Better show some respect.đ€Ș
â@@nsd_respectđđđđđ
why are we babying klay Thompson? isn't he one of the best shooter of all time? an all time great player, 4 time nba champion, why are we not giving the same critism to him? this is what's wrong with the media, they pick and chooses who they want to give the critism, they don't want to anger klay cause they know klay talks back to the media lol
Agreed 100
Exactly, whereâs that ben simmons treatment? Klay thompson is so washed but the media acts like heâs the missing piece for a contender
They always criticise Warriors actually, you know who they baby all the time? Commisioner's fish in L.A., see Zion walks out even if not injured at all?
@@Other_Robotslol, you canât seriously compare the situations and scenarios between Klay and Simmons and think they are event remotely close.
Babying him? They criticize him all the time! He crucify him every night. Heâs literally one of the best shooters of all timeâŠ.theyâre not babysitting him.
Getting rid of Poole came back to bite them big time.
It was either him or draymond
they are probably playing at a similar level keeping Poole and getting rid of Draymond. More drastic trades needed to be done to change how this season went.
Lol whaaaaat poole????? Dawg delete your comment
@@user-hh9kw3cw9y Thereâs a reason why they payed him $100M+ my guy. Wiggins hasnât been the same since he left and all the younger guys loved him. So how about YOU delete yours
@c-yonko9391 trash players have gotten huge contracts all the time, poole hasn't showed any reason for the warriors to regret losing him, everyone important to the 22 chip has regressed bigtime besides 30, if poole was balling out then yes warriors are dumb for letting him go but he's been worse than mediocre
Klay doesn't have the guts to leave and not have the protection of Curry to cover up and bail him out.
Didnât Curry have like 15 points and 5 turnovers in the 4th quarter when Klay threw up his 10th brick! Both of them CHOKED đ€Ł!
@MsCamicam Didnât Steph end up with 22 points on 50% shooting with being triple teamed all game and his 2nd best player (Klay) a non-factor? What else is he supposed to do? Score 40 in a blow-out? Smh.
@@MsCamicam It's one game. I'm talking about their entire careers
â@@MsCamicamCasual who didnt watch the game only highlights says something like that.
He is done. He lost it.
Klay needs to embrace a 6th man role. đ
bingo
as a warriors fan, im not mad at our players at all. iâm actually more upset with coaching and the organization for not making the adjustments we needed to have a better season and also have a shot in the post season.
Stephen A really thought this retirement home was gonna have a chance at making a playoff run đ
We get it, you're a Laker fan.
@@donniewarren8363 Iâll get the jokes off today and no more. Enjoy Cancun. Save the Lakers a spot đ
@@donniewarren8363get out your fishing rods loserđ
@@donniewarren8363exactly he a lebron fan
@@datsapaddlin Laker fan making jokes now causeâŠ. the real Joker is right around the corner
The thing is what SAS is saying as Klay getting open looks if he moves to Dallas for example, but the thing is, HE HAS BEEN GETTING OPEN LOOKS BECAUSE STEPH WAS TRIPLED TEAM BUT STILL HE COUDNLT DRAIN A SINGLE SHOT.
bricks are made from klay
Cement foo
@@ND-OPScement is made from c(K)lay lol
Russell Westbrook enters the chatâŠ
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Awww I guess Klay feeling got hurt đđđđ
Love this guy Tim ledger. He knows what heâs talking about..
Klay signed a 160 mill 5 years back in 2019 where he tore his ACL. He cares about being the Warrior over anything. So, if he wants to stay then he should take a pay cut. Other teams wont shell out the money to him like he was back in the heyday. GSW is his best option, homie just gotta re-negotiate
Lots of âNo Diddyâ moments on this segment đ
It doesnt depend on pay. Its time to move on. Too streaky offensively this year and defensively cant do whats needed. Hed be a great 3rd option on another contender. Hes not going to get Golden State any further than they went this year tho.
We need klay back. He shot 0-10
Hope youâre joking
Klay also has options to take more money somewhere else too if needs a another landing spots
Klay has made his money. He should play for the Warriors for minimum wage, and let the Warriors try bring in a good, younger player. I would like to see a HOF great like Klay finish out his career with the Warriors.
It will be sad to see Klay go. I believe he can still be valuable to the Warriors. Klay has to believe in himself and his talent.
Or... or.... just HAVE HIM COME OFF THE BENCH LIKE THEY WERE DOING!!!!!!!!!!!!
Klay would be great on the lakers as a third or 4th option, he would have a lot of space and his job would be just shooting if he knock them down or not
CP3 and Wiggins need to go. I still feel like Klay needs to go as well. They need to invest in a center, they need to get bigger in the front court. They have Kaminga, Moody, Jackson -Davis. They have younger guys who have proven themselves and need to be played more.
Game 6 Klay â
0-for-6 Klay â
0-11 klay.
Keeping going kt ,,, life always better n betterđ đ
Bron Bron old... and the GOAT is still balling! Ballers ball... no excuses
Like MJ said " Play like you practice and practice like you play"
Acknowledge all your kids. All your kids should acknowledge you---MJ
Lolđ€Ą
TALK ABOUT ITđźđŹâŒïž
0-10 is crazy for Klay. At this point I donât think itâs injuries. Klay said heâs healed I think itâs mental.
Could be , he already lost whatever little athleticism he had/getting older + these players coming in are getting bigger, faster , stronger
His confidence might be gone + that rehab from 2 of the worst injuries ib sports was no joke, he might just be wasted across the board.
No one is perfect. Klay is a champion. Period!
Washed up champion from the pastđ
Klay start over fresh somewhere.. your mental needs to be protected as well and is a vital asset. Start over fresh somewhere if you're not at peace and the climate has worn thin on you with those numbers you deserve your worth
Sas is absolutely right they donât owe klay resigning him if they can get better moving on from him!
Mmm I feel like that applies to other players/teams, but this core took them from a 500mil franchise to a 7billion franchise. They are now one of the richest teams in all of sports, you think they got paid what they really were owed? No, so I think you ride the core out into retirement. Klay can take less money and a reduced role, while the younger players get shine.
â@BlackMarq20 nobody gets paid what they're owed unless your the owner.. ha its a business decision and if moving on from him is best for the business that's what they're gonna do they do not owe him anything
@@BlackMarq20 I didnât mention nothing about money in my comment
Klay Thomson, you are a Dallas Maverick đđ
*Ni-Hao Klay!*
Shanghai sharks!! Number 11 in his first Shanghai sharks season Klay Thompson...
lol we love mad Doggy
I will never lose faith in klay!
Klay, Draymond, and CP3 all need to go ..
2:20 Pause..
5:48 too. segment too funny
@@bushhhyy Tim is wild! lmao
Holy pause đ
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respect stephen A
Nope
0 Pts from a 3 time NBA champion is nasty work đ
4 time
Bring him. to the heat
Even if he comes back cheap, he will still be a liability on the court. He had a great run. There is no shame in leaving. Let Kuminga properly take over and continue building on his potential.
No. You need a clean slate. Him and Raymond need to get shipped. Move on. Build young around Steph. With some young bigger talent Steph can certainly win one or two chips. I think Pg is leaving the clips too. Him and Steph would be solid
That âstrokeâ is crazy
I still love klay
He's done. He's old
Klay at this point in his career is almost like a shot fighter.
Whoever believed Chris Paul was going to give them anything. He should have went to the lakers where all he would have been asked to do was be a point guard.
So whatâd the warriors ask cp to do? He got the ball to shooters in their spots and helped the young guys on the bench. Let me guess youâre a lakers fan lol
âYou should be respected, even revered.â
The number of times this man said the same thing twice in one sentence, cannot be counted.
Itâs a very tough situation. Anyone who works or is in business in any way can understand both sides. Klay gotta do whatâs best for him and the warriors gotta do whatâs best for them
Itâs about that stroke is wild
Part of Klay's value in the past was his defense. Is he the same defensive player post-injury? He is no longer capable of defending the best perimeter player.
Exactly!
Stephen A what you know about that stroke đđđ
Sophomoric.
KEEP KLAY!!!!
Stephen a talking facts for this one
Klay is a legend but he's not reliable in big games Sadly the Warriors and Klay should part ways please don't waste Curry's last years like they did Kobe
Klay was playing like a substitute teacher. đ€Łđ€Łđđ
If klay Thompson wants another ring he'd better get to the lakers only team that makes sense if he wants to stay on the West Coast especially with his dad's Lakers ties it would be sweet to end his career with same team his dad won a chip with
Klay is really the Scottie pippen of the warriors , I hope he go and get his money and donât take less for the warriors
As soon as o saw him starting and forcing shots up. I knew it was going to be a rough day
Agreed
Klank Thompson
Bring the whole team back, ***if you can***, it took all year to develop Chemistry. You blow it up, you have to start over. You keep everyone or majority, you have a team with having played together for a year under their belts. That will only help you next season. I would maybe move Kevon Looney to the 4 since he's not a traditional big, and sign Dwight Howard for the veteran minimum and have a Center Combo of him and TDJ on the glasses and use Looney as 5 whenever they're not on the floor back at 5. That way You have DH, TDJ, Looney (at the 4 and sometimes 5) then you have Dray, Usman, GP2, Dario, Wings, Moody and Kuminga for Defense. Steph, Podz, CP3 (off bench), Kay (off bench) and that other guard (don't know how to spell his name), that's a strong team. Then I would sign a Mike Brown'esc, Mark Jackson'esc defensive minded coach to aid Kerr next season. We haven't been the same since Mike Brown left, then we wind up losing to him in the play-in.
Personally, this is just me, I think if it was a 7 game series, it would've been different. But it was just one game that the Kings took full advantage of... Good team, bad year, don't blow it up, otherwise you will have the same results next season trying develop Chemistry all over again. Just bring everyone back, then run it back. The Conference was tougher this year than other years... Gotta at least hang your hat on that
Dray & Klay definitely played there last game for Warriors
The warriors have no wing defenders, no big men klay aint they problem . Teams structure is the issue
đŻ they NEED the click bait for rattings because it's only matter of time ESPN files for bankruptcy
GS literally just have Steph, they're young guys don't seem to want to step up, Wiggins has been almost nonexistent since his finals .
Klay seems in retirement mode after injuries, Dray is a knucklehead and this team just don't have the shooting they did as well to pair with Curry/Klay*
Kerr can't coach young guys as well, he might be out when Steph is out.
@@buddyboy4438 ye so can see all they add leaving at once .
Steven A. Bro you're talking giving praises and throwing knives at the same time
He can play for Sparks
The benching of Klay who is a real champion and a deserving starter who deserves respect is one of the main reasons why the team failed this season.
Klay needs to get his bags and win some where else.
If the price is free then yes they should bring him back. Otherwise, thank him for his service and let him walk
Assface indeed
Facts. These organizations need to understand they got all they can out of some players and it's OK to say goodbye. That's one thing I always admired about the New England Patriots.
He is the new Andre Iguodala. He is done
@@roddyboethius1722 Cap. Still better than 90% of the dude's in the position
2:20 whatchu know about that klay Thompson stroke Mr smith
"finished the season strong.." - Look at the schedule the Warriors had in those final games.. I think only 2 teams were serious playoff contenders. He can look good against bad teams.
Depends on Kerr growing a pair and stop catering to him! Klay needs to come off the bench strictly! If he has a few good games that doesnât mean he needs to be on the starting lineup or closing. What Kerr is doing to moody is criminal!
Their big 3 have made so much money, they should go all in for wining chips and all take the league minimum and stack the team.
A shooter will be a shooter.
He can bounce back. He is too good of a player to give up on.
Plus, he is matured enough to be willing to step back and be sixth man.
The dubs should keep him.
Why didnât Kerr play looney he was obviously the anchor during the playoffs during the warriors vs kings round 1 matchup đ đ
Bring him back; he is still an asset.
Not so much. Injuries and age have taken over.
Zero points in the most important game of the season, while struggling the whole season. Asset my @ss, there is a reason why he was starting from the bench. He is old
As a 3 point shooter. Everything else with his horrible defense isn't worth nothing
Dunkin Do Nut Klay
I still believe in klay, if the warriors organization resigned him from what they did to curry and green, klay will not feel down from the very beginning and pretty sure would be even more consistent playing better like before. I hope the warriors will give him another 2 or 3 yrs more contract.
âGolden gate is falling down, falling down, falling down, golden gate is falling down, my dear ladyâ
15M a year for 1+team option seems to be the right amount
Bring KLAY back.
Klay should sign MLE with Lakers.
Veteran minimum and come as a bench role
No, I canât imagine Lebron doing anything for the betterment of his team. Klay is a great player. I hope he stays a Warrior.
Knicks don't want or need Klay keep it moving. SA just loves the sound of his own voice.
4:55 watching the warriors bench is so depressing
That 2 year 48 million is looking real good now!!! đČ
As a Warriors fan, I would like the Warriors to bring back Klay on a 1 year deal. He deserves to have a second chance to redeem himself after that Kings game. He's done so much for us and sacrificed a lot to give us 4 championships.
What has he sacrificed if I may ask? He got a max while injured so what kind of sacrifice did he make?
@@hiimdre321 our team was borderline scrubbish before he was drafted. Once him, Klay and Dray got it going, they helped our once terrible team to 4 championship and 6 finals appearances. I dont think you can put a $ figure on just one championship, let alone 4 of them. He's part of the one of the most iconic teams of all time. I think outta of loyalty to him, he deserves a chance to come back and redeem himself next year.
@@SamuelJ888 but again what did he sacrifice? Sure bring him back but I would hope not for a lot. Heâs dead cap if you still treated him with loyalty. He essentially was out there for cardio. He contributed nothing to the game besides getting his steps in. Granted thatâs on coaching as well which is why I think Kerr isnât a good one. Cause keeping someone in the game with 0 points for 33 min over a young 16 points in 13 min player is stupid.
On 10 million max
What you did in the past means nothing when it comes down to this. This is not a charity. This is a NBA. That's why he's going to be in the ring of fame and in the Hall of Fame. That's why he has four rings you can't hold onto the past. You have to move forward in life.
It's up to Klay. He has earned the right to choose where his fate lies. He's probably going to want to finish his career on the Warriors and I'm sure they'll find a compromise to honour his wish.
5:46 AYOOO PAUSE đ€Łđ€Łđ€Ł
Just wanna thank Klay for being my favorite Robin in NBA history
2nd best shooter of all time and prime Klay is a easy top 10 SG of all time.
Just wanna let u know no one cares. 2nd best shooter all time lmao.
Ray is better
Klay Giving me Jason Pitts vibes from the game
Klay was putting up them SAS and Skip Bayless numbers đđ