Beretta 3032 Tomcat 1500-Round Review. Is .32 Enough? Plus a rant or two.
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I have had these little Berettas for decades. To me, they are one of the most useful, safe, and well designed pistols for every day real life. Bands of ninjas are not lurking everywhere. No one wants extra holes in their body. No one hangs around to ask you what you are shooting them with. I would not dry fire them, as their firing pins can break if you do that a lot . They are easily replaced, but if you don’t dry fire them, they never break. Thanks for the video.
Will snap caps allow you to dry fire safely?
@@CatProvider yes...I bought 32 acp snap caps becuz u always wanna practice dry firing ur gun...always double check tho...accidents do happen and u can't undo a tragedy.
100%. A lot of people poo poo the .32 ACP and call it useless and ineffective. At The same time however, none of these detractors are ever willing to test their theory by volunteering to get shot by one.
Is .32 enough? Watch the Ronald Reagan assassination attempt by John Hinkley. He used a snubnosee .22 revolver and took-out a Washington Police Officer, a Secret Service Agent and James Brady. The payoff with the .32 acp Tomcat is follow-up shots on target. It has almost no recall or muzzle flip. You can empty the magazing into a hand sized grouping in 2 seconds from 7 yards. It would take months of training to confidently do that with a single stack 9mm if you could achieve it at all.
Yeah, that's the entire point of this video.
Agreed, to be fair though, he was using explosive rounds for his .22
@@MopSpadowski Only the round that hit James Brady exploded. The rest remained solid.
@@MopSpadowski what does exploding round mean?
@@MopSpadowski ???
I picked up the Tomcat Covert (threaded barrel) in FDE. I love the way it looks and feels in the hand. After getting it home and cleaning it, I started to do some dry firing and working the action (with snap caps). I instantly regretted the purchase. The trigger was horrible and the DA pull felt like 100 pounds. I figured there was no way this pistol would be accurate or reliable. I decided to flip this pistol, as it’s a pretty desirable pistol as far as demand. However, I decided to at least try shooting it first. Holy cow… was I wrong. The first magazine shot right to point of aim and a tight group. The heavy trigger pull didn’t seem to be an issue. And not a single jam out of a couple hundred rounds. It’s now a favorite. And I make sure to not run hot ammo through it. When my 9mm suppressor gets out of jail, I’ll be trying it out on the Tomcat. Thanks for the review!
P.S. One real complaint on Beretta… for the cost of these pistols, Beretta should have included more than one magazine in the box.
What ammo?
I’m an amateur but with it being a “pocket pistol “ could that be the reason for the heavy trigger pull? I bought a Kel Tec P32 yesterday but I think this may be the next on the list.
My sister carried this gun for years. I don’t think she’s got 1/4 the rounds through it that you do. It never gets cleaned. It’s reliable and fun to shoot. Just wish 32ACP wasn’t harder than finding a unicorn shitting rainbows right now.
i don't know i always seen it online and as of now also.. load the cart swipe the cc and done, on the way. in the past $60.00+ for a box of 50 hard ball or more for HP was the problem not avail.
I have seen 2 TOMCATS for sale in the past 20 years, One was today at the pawn shop IN the box, a pocket holster extra mag 369.00 (8 boxes of pmc ammo 200.00) -I i have a 1903 colt pocket in 32, so I have dies and a few hundred other rounds already. I was surprised it can ONLY take 130 ft pounds of energy.
Been researching reviews ahead before buying the stainless Tomcat, this is so far the most thorough review. Excellent job. Thank you.
I was shopping for a "granny purse gun" for my mother-in-law when I stumbled onto this video, thank you The Gun Penguin for your wildly entertaining narration 😂
The ammo threshold is NOT 160 foot/pounds. The manual supplement says not to use ammunition with a muzzle energy greater than 130 foot/pounds!
Great review! I've been wondering about longevity on this model, and now I'm fairly certain it'll be the next pistol I pick up.
BTW, I appreciate your in depth detailed reviews and your sense of humor. People gotta calm the f*** down!
Thank you for the kind words and support!
Man, I forgot how much I liked your style. Excellent humor, visuals and music selection. Keep doing you!
I've got a chance to trade into a tomcat, and appreciate the perspective you have
Years ago Beretta made a version with an extended safety and tritium XS sights called the Alley Cat. Neat little weapon.
Good luck finding one.
They only made a few thousand, was for some promotion or such.
Arguably the finest carry automatic ever made.
@@LetyourcolorsblendwithmineI’ve got one, but the tritium in the front sight needs replaced.
Boomer here. Enjoyed the review. LOL'd heartily in all the appropriate, and a few inappropriate, places. Been carrying a Beretta 21A for years, and have considered the Tomcat as a step up for jogging, etc. Good to hear Beretta beefed it up a bit after the early reports of cracking. Now I just gotta decide between this and the generic LCP thing. Probably gonna depend on ammo availability, although I doubt I'll shoot much of anything once I find a reliable brand. Never change, keep doing you.
Thanks for the kind words and support, my friend!
I have the lcp 380 max and I love it but I'm looking at one of these now
Lcp max has so many malfunction problems. Not reliable.
The Beretta will outshoot lcp
Was just thinking it had been a bit since an upload, and I'm treated to this! Thanks as always Señor Penguin!
Thank you for watching! This one took a while to make.
ive had a beretta 21a 22cal since the late 80s. as long as i use good ammo mini mags stingers aguila it always works.and ive fired many rounds through it. its been my always got it with me gun since i bought it.a friend had to use one in 22 in a self defense shooting. it saved his life. one round fired. sadly his attacker didnt survive it.
This is the first video I’d seen of yours and this was fricken hilarious and full of useful information. I’ve got a lot of rounds through a 21A and lots of small blowback pistols but I’ve wanted to pick up a Tomcat for a while now.
Recent ammo developments make carrying a .32 more viable than ever before. I carry a .32 Seecamp with Underwood Xtreme Defender ammo. I no longer feel under-armed after extensive testing despite the smaller caliber.
Wasn’t that gun designed around the Winchester silver tip round?
@@aerialinterimmanager Yes it was. However some select ammo also works in the gun. The Underwood ammo has run 100% reliably and to me seems like it was meant for it.
@@sfcablecar Impressive is it really that well built? Haven’t been able to use one yet, however the Tomcat is loads of fun, though I only believe in using it within the recommended limit. In your perspective, how is the recoil when it runs that exact round? Is there a rapid notable wear on the gun going that hot or is that where the well crafted factor makes a difference?
@@aerialinterimmanager It definitely has a stout recoil but still as should be expected in such a small pistol. There is a +P version of the .32 ammo as well. I'd suggest staying with the non +P. I've had no ware and tare issues. Good to go.
I’ll have to try that one. Tried 32 fromBuffalo Bore and get failure to eject and failure to feed once every 10 rounds.
My main issue with this gun is that I can't keep it in when I squat and cough.
Just do more squats. Worked for me
I pocket a tomcat covert now. Love the thing. Having an 07/02, hopefully by then end of the week I'll be able to test it with a fatty wiper can I designed just for funzies.
Seriously though. The tomcat is a great gun and has been for a long time. 32acp is enough for carry, don't care what anyone says.
Glad to see a down to earth, real review of the gun.
Thanks! Let me know how the Covert runs. I'm very interested in one for myself.
@@thegunpenguin she runs great so far. Granted. I only have a little under 300 rounds down the pipe. All fiocchi 73gr. 32 isn't cheap. No malfunctions yet. Other than the occasional hot brass to the forehead, I love the thing. Just don't expect it to be .22 quiet when suppressed. It is quiet, for a gunshot. Just not what I anticipated. But on the plus side, unsuppressed it won't blow out and ear drum from a single mag dump. Just a little lingering ring.
Trigger was gritty on arrival but smoothed out fast. Thankfully it has a tip up barrel because the slide is tough. Surprisingly accurate. I was holding 4"ish groups at 15 yards. 10/10 would recommend.
Though she's thiccc. Seecamp is definitely an easier pocket carry.
Love you vids BTW. Even listened to your political stuff. You articulate your points well. And this coming from a conservative atheist. Rock on and shoot safely. We need all the allies the 2a can get.
Excellent review. You addressed all of my concerns in one video. I think that I will have to give the Tomcat a try. I have experienced bad examples of good designs, but I have not had a problem with Beretta yet. I know that others have. I still wish that Beretta would buy Mossberg. Great job. Thank you.👍
Just stumbled onto your cz-70 review and decided to try another review. As you can tell I like the 32 acp caliber. I'll be checking out the rest of your reviews. Keep it up I really like your humor and style, You are a breath of fresh air in the gun review community.
I rock my 32 more than any other gun I have. Its invisible in my pocket. And fits perfect in my overalls in my front chest pouch
I’ve been carrying my grandpas old astra .32 as a backup pocket gun lately. Half the time I forget the things there
Nice!
I remember a video on this pistol years ago where the owner call Beretta asking about the lifespan of the different parts and was told the gun was built to be carried often and shot seldom. It was their way of saying it's not a plinkster but a last ditch defense weapon .
Darn, I wanted one for target shooting.
Great gun because it has many unique features such as tip-up barrel, slide springs down behind the grips, mag release where my thumb will not accidentally push it, enough mass to tame recoil, virtually impossible to put out of battery when pressed against a target, will fire without a magazine, super easy to field strip and/or clean, DA makes for a safe carry with one in the chamber (the safety is probably not necessary, but at least works well). The only problem is that with the first shot DA and the follow ups SA it is very easy to rip off two shots when only one was intended; however, lets train that into a double tap, which could somewhat make up for the lower stopping power of .32 ACP. I like how fat it is and it has a perfect trigger reach for my big hands, even beats the Kel Tec P32 on that point. BTW, the card that came with my Tomcat which I got new recently, says not to use greater than 71 grain ammo and nothing with more than 130 ft-pounds at the muzzle. I had mine to the range once and it ran 32 rounds of PPU FMJ perfectly!
I love this gun. You can feel the quality when you hold it. It is gorgeous. I am small in stature and where tight clothing. This thing despite it girth compared to other mouse guns, shows little imprint. Love love love it.
Wow thanks this is so helpful for me!
@@VioletPrism I recently purchased a Ruger LCP MAX .380. So it packs a good punch and has an even Greater capacity in 10 or 12 rounds. Also an even thinner profile. It is now my favorite. Also good price.
@@xavierbreath2227 yesss I have been looking into the MAX lately I think I will buy both! Thanks :)
If it's good enough as a back-up, it's good enough. I love my Tomcat.
I’ve carried a Bobcat for over 30 years. Now it’s the 32 Tomcat, a really good pocket pistol. Theses tried and true designs has stood the test of time.
I enjoy and appreciate your video reviews, content and humor, despite the “boomerphobia” and old guy stereotypes. Keep ‘em coming.
The Bobcat is great! Also, thanks for the kind words!
And for the record, I only heckle the old white guys because, according to my CZcams analytics, they're the source of nearly all the abuse the channel receives. I'm a comedian at heart, so I have to give some back!
As an old white guy your comedy is not lost on me. And, I’ll bet you the abusive assholes we’re assholes when they were 30.
Just found your channel, and it's refreshing. It's casual but informative, and I like TN accents 🤷♂️. I have this gun in blue. At the time it was marketed as the "wide slide".
Thank you for the kind words! Did they ever sell the two models side-by-side, or did the wide slide immediately replace the older model!
My accent is that of the SC low country, but they're very similar. Good ear!
got mine a couple of weeks ago. fun, no recoil.
I was just looking for a review? But I loved the way you ripped the "FUDDS" a new one!! Well played! Signed 64-year-old Duse who owns a lot of Tools for lots of occasions. Keep it up
Any opinions whether the Tomcat is easier to shoot accurately than the P32? Google gives the weight (I assume unloaded) for the Tomcat as 14.5 oz vs 6.6 oz. for the P32. Am I right the recoil would therefore be quite a bit softer for the Tomcat?
First time viewer. I like your style! I just bought one of these with the threaded barrel so I can eventually get a suppressor for it. I'm really looking forward to getting out on the range with it. Thanks for your follow up review! Cheers!
My shop near me had two, I bought one the first day they received it! Just had to own this gun
Hands down my favorite pocket gun
I just ordered this gun. Can you tell me which ammo worked best?
Nice, was looking forward to this one 👍
Thanks!
Excellent vid, fantastic info, and wonderful sense of humor - you earned my sub, sir! I used to have a Beretta 950 BS (.22 short) but ended up giving it to a friend. Excellent accuracy, but reliability was crap and stopping power was nonexistent. Thinking of getting a threaded Tomcat or Bobcat for use with a can. I like the short barrel because the can already adds plenty of length. Put a can on a long barrel and you end up looking like The Joker from 1989 Batman…
Bought my Tomcat a few weeks ago, love it! I'd like to point out, for me at least, when I carry it, it's for the deep concealment. or my own laziness. Just pitch the Tomcat in a pocket instead of putting on my normal carry rig. I can't imagine any situation where I'd be carrying the Tomcat, and also extra mags. That's just not part of the Tomcat's philosophy of use for me. So combat reloads and the position of the mag release are not issues. However, I'm not an internet gun tester, and I don't need those "sweet add dollars", so my need for combat reloads on the Tomcat may be different. 😁
If Beretta released an updated model capable of running hotter rounds, it would make many people happy. Thanks for the round update
Absolutely! My very dumb test might show that this gun has been adequately beefed up, but I'm unsure at this stage.
My Tomcat Inox 4 months old.
After 10 rounds, barrel realize was broken
After 100 rounds, flame cracked :(
I love this small thing.
Fan to shoot and very accurate for a such small pistol.
I've got 850 rounds through mine in one and a half years. Only a couple "ammo" problems, but still love it!!! Mine spends alot of time in my pocket. Great video thanks. 👍🏼
Thanks for the kind words, and for taking the time to share your experiences!
@@thegunpenguin your channel is underrated! You tell the truth and don't hold back. Some of the best reviews I've watched. Wish I could give it more than one thumbs up.
Wow, I'm honored! Thank you so much!
"We all come in different shapes and sizes." First of all, how dare you.
Hahaha yes.
Great video, first of your videos I have seen.
Great gun, great caliber, great video and point of view!
I just picked one up, haven’t gone to the range yet… the trigger not resetting in a dry da pull, that something I should be concerned with or just needs “breaking in”? I know I ain’t supposed to dry fire it but couldn’t resist just once..
Gotta cover the Berretta Jetfire in .25 ACP which is another really underrated caliber.
Absolutely! It's on the list.
A friend of mine was robbed and shot while walking across a parking lot In Kansas city by a guy armed with a 25, the bullet with through his wrist and then through his shoulder and crippled him, also I personally witnessed a man shoot another man with a .38 when I was a kid in the 80's it didn't kill him either but it paralyzed him, that might be why I dont care for caliber debates, all bullets are bad for your health in my book.
What about all the issues with this guns frame cracking etc from standard/slightly increased pressure rounds? How would suppressing this add to that problem?
Love the beginning, music and scenery. Liking the attitude too.
Does the inox model accept the threaded barrel of the new tomcat covert?
The 32 ACP is one of the most underrated rounds out there.. I own a Kel-Tec p32 gen 1 .. extremely reliable and accurate.. I installed anti rim lock kits in the magazines so I can carry Hornady xtp hollow points... Beretta tomcat is the only 32 to my knowledge being manufactured nowadays.. it's a shame because this round is great for someone who wants a small lightweight pocket pistol but can't handle the recoil of a 380.. 32 ammo is now expensive... Bass pro had a box of green and white box 32....50 rounds FMJ for $43😮
Good video, very informative.
The rail guide broke on my Beretta Jetfire 950. Unfortunately, Beretta wouldn’t repair. I had to send it to a gunsmith who did a phenomenal job of fixing. Hoping my Tomcat doesn’t experience this. Nice video BTW.
I own a beretta .25 950. BS Jetfire.. I used to carry daily and I put a lot of time in at the range with it. Like the tomcat it does not have a ejector..BUT with the center fire rounds if you got a dud just hit the pop-up barrel lever the barrel will flip the round right out the chamber.. quickly snap the barrel back down into place and rack the slide that's how you clear these guns
When I first bought my Tomcat I didn’t read the manual at all, and was dry firing like a fool, and broke my firing pin 😅 but it wasn’t that bad replacing it myself. I love that little gun.
Me too. Unfortunately, these are virtually unable to be dry fired.
Can you dry fire with snap caps?
@@coll3595 you can, but the manual says to use a spent casing while dry firing. But I just don’t really do it.
Great presentation. So helpful. Wonderful sense of humor you have! Thank you. I am considering purchasing this pistol. If I were to use snap caps can I dry fire as much as I choose without damaging the pistol?
Wolfy based on what I know of the Tomcat I would not dry fire it with or without snap caps. Even Beretta's suggestion to dry fire with a spent casing doesn't sound good. I don't think you need to dry fire this type of pistol to become proficient with it as it is intended for very short ranges and more point and shoot situations. Just practice draw and aim without trigger pull would be my advice. To keep the pistol functioning as designed I would not dry fire in any method. Hope this helps.
You really need to take the grips off to properly clean and lubricate this pistol. That’s one of the oddities about this particular weapon.
There is SO MUCH conflicting info on ammo. PLEASE guide/point/suggest/ whatever whats reliable and safe for the 3032.
Ive had good luck with Magtech. Just make sure that whatever ammo you use, keep it under 130 ft lbs.
Hey love your vids,
I’m from Bronx your language doesn’t bother me.
I’m was thinking of buying one, and you made up my mind getting one.
Thanks!
Keep on educating the masses.
Hey man! Long time no talk. I just grabbed the FDE one of these with the threaded barrel yesterday. Lol glad you've had good luck with yours. Looking forward to shooting mine and having it as a deep concealment option
Best Overall .32acp review. Worth this revisit!
Would wear on the slide be the same with all black or onox slide?
judging by the barrel release having curved indents, thats an older model from last year. The newer ones have straight lines and new triggers that are less likley to break at their wings.
Very interesting! I didn't know they made any recent changes. Thanks for letting me know!
I was cleaning one for a coworker. I squeezed the trigger, with the grips removed, and a small spring went flying. We couldn't get the spring back in, had to take it to a gunsmith.
First time watching you and thank you and will definitely watch your videos
Nice fucking video Penguin! 32acp is quickly becoming my favorite plinking round. Totally underrated for a pocket caliber.
Thanks, my friend!
Excellent - thanks! Is there a preferred ammunition type for the Tomcat?
Thanks for watching! I generally prefer any FMJ below that power threshold. Domestic stuff tends to be a hair weaker.
Love A Real Man's Gun review. Preach!!!!!
Excellent Overview, and excellent delivery. Just found your site. Am now a follower. Common sense review and delivery. Thanks.
I love single/double action pistols. My collection, tomcat, 84f, p232, p290, ppk/s, cz83 and Thunder.
Interesting update/review
Thanks!
I'm not into
32 yet but see the role it fills. I also interested in .32 Manurhin pp what do u think of bigger pp in .32?
I find the PP slightly more pleasant, but it still isn't a favorite. However, that's entirely subjective. You might pick one up and find it very comfortable.
@@thegunpenguin cool thanks for responding funny video as usual. If I get into .32 it would be that or this or 81bb. I almost got 81bb for $300 when ammogaddon started was only $16 a box was going to stock up but found a .22 pistol instead made more sense. Hope .32 will drop below $32-35 s&b soon but still expensive.
@@DanTheWolfman I'm with you -- I very much need .32 to drop as well. My stockpile was fairly large, but it's starting to dwindle. Also, the .22 was a good call!
Hey brother, great rundown. I have a question since i just ordered the Ghostbuster version of this Tomcat. I just heard yesterday that the threshold is 130 ft lbs. Can you confirm whether it's 130 or 160 like you mentioned? And i dont blame you for not mentioning your type loads. Lol 😂 oh, edit, I've just subscribed BECAUSE Of the swearing story. Ha
You know I just found your or got recommended your channel and it's a shame it's it took a year later. I love it this video at work I was laughing so hard at the brass goblins remark.
I just picked mine up today - Haven't fired it yet, but just playing around with it, it feels great in the hand. The slide is tough to rack, unless you cheat by pulling the hammer back first, but maybe that's just because it's brand new. In any case, it's not an issue with the flip-up barrel. I did give myself slide bite while trying to rack it, but with my shooting grip, I don't see a chance of getting bit while firing it. I'm looking forward to trying it out. Some other comments mention a scarcity of .32 acp, but I'm assuming those were posted during the height of the pandemic-related ammo shortage. My local shop has 4 different brands of .32 acp, including S&B wad-cutters. My only real complaint is that this is the first Beretta I've ever bough (Pistol, Carbine or Shotgun) that didn't come with a plastic hard-case. It comes with a soft, nylon zip-case, which is better than no case at all, but for the price, a cheap hard case would be appreciated. I had the exact same complaint for my Kimber snub-nose revolver, which was twice the cost of the 3032. I think the manufacturers underestimate the customer satisfaction gained by including a hard case, which is probably one a few dollars added cost for them.
Mine came in blue box with hard blue case. Bought it in October 2021 maybe after that that started to ship in just plain box with the Nylon bag.
Brad no intended insult but with a barrel that is designed to flip up why is it necessary to pull the slide on such a short pistol? I agree with your comment that the slide is very difficult to pull but there is not a lot of realistate there to pull and not a lot of pistol grip to work in pulling the slide. I did try it on my new Tomcat and found right away that it was not designed to perform that way. That being said it could be useful to help clear a malfunction or failure to feed or eject. In that case aderline would take effect and it should slide back easily. I'll have to try the emergency exercise at the range. Happy shooting!!!
I carry a 32 daily, just not this one. Have been considering one though. I've had an H&R 723 Sidekick forever. My only 32 acp at present, is a surplus Zastava M70. You've already got more rounds through it, than I'd ever do, so I'll have to try one someday.
I just found your channel. I subbed on this video alone. I would be interested in your thoughts on the Bobcat in 22LR. If people are going to dump on the 32 for being weak, imagine how they must dump on the 22LR. My only problems with the 32 are cost and availability. So few guns are chambered for it. At least in the USA. I'm talking current production of course.
Thanks for the support! The Bobcat is great. I've found it to get generally less reliable than the Tomcat, but that has more to do with the nature of rimfire ammo than any particular problem with the gun itself. Even the finest rimfire ammo is far more likely to cause a problem than even mediocre centerfire ammo. But, the Bobcat is so small and handy, it can still be worth the risk, and malfunctions tend to be easy to clear.
@@thegunpenguin There's certainly not much you can do with a dead rimfire cartridge. Most of my 22LR has been fired through a 22LR conversion kit for my Beretta 92A1. It's a nifty kit. The Bobcat definitely requires a different way of thinking when it comes to clearance drills. I presume that's true of the Tomcat as well.
Your right about this gun needing to be well lubed. I have a Bobcat and have had problems with failure to eject/feed. CCI ammo is better for the Bobcat and I also used my rotary tool to polish all contact areas and it seems to have solved the failures.
Try Aguila HP Interceptor. I put well over 1500 rounds through by bobcat without cleaning or oiling. Still going strong. The Aguila HP Interceptor rounds work the best for my bobcat.
Thanks for taking the time to comment. I will most definitely try some!
Terry's 32 acp colt with 50 rds and an old 76 impala windshield. So we took turns shooting through the glass hitting the head rest. It eat up the head rest with no problem going through the windshield. It was a military round since it was invented and has enough power for anyone and follow up shots are super fast.
I had 2 I gave one to my uncle and one to my aunt only issue was a broken firing pin on one of the two. I switched to the original seecamps one for me and one for the wife. I picked up 3 of the 81 b 81 and a 81bb when they were around 250 now thats a 32 beretta can be proud of in my opinion no recoil same hole accuracy but certainly not a pocket pistol. great guns to start someone out to teach shooting.
I’m a Beretta fanboy. Maybe not enough of one to tote a .32, but I’m gonna watch the crap out of this anyway! 🍿
Thanks for the support!
@@thegunpenguin Thanks for keeping the content real!
@@knifetex My pleasure! Until the gun internet cancels me.
Have you had luck with your tomcat and the remington umc 71 gr? Thats literally the only thing I can find right now.
Great reviews. After trying a bunch of pocket pistols tomcat’s performance just won the contest great gun
This is the review that I could've used before my purchase. Totally satisfied with my recent purchase but just wish I would've seen this
Love the 3032. In .380 the PPK is unpleasant, but in .32 is not snappy or hard to shoot. It is, however, much bigger and heavier. My only issue with the 3032 is that my firing pin has broken….twice. I think that has to do with dry firing it a lot both with and without snap caps. I also had the rear sight come loose, but locktite fixed that. Otherwise it’s been 100% reliable.
Yeah, the firing pin setup renders these virtually unable to be dry fired. It's unfortunate!
@@thegunpenguin still, a great gun. shot mine yesterday.
Just picked one up. Did yours need a break in period?
What's with the intro reminds
me of something from
The Last of Us Part II. My father bought one of these brand new in 1997. Never been fired to my knowledge. It's a nice pistol irregardless of the "cracking issue" even though I have never fired it it feels extremely well built and has a great fit and finish. Having field stripping the weapon the newer version has changed besides the change in the safety the slide is much chunkier than the original.
I'm watching the second video of this pistol and I've already seen delays in shots twice. Bad pistol?
Lmao. the amount of times this guy digresses. Goes off the rail. I forgot what video I was watching at one point. I love it.
Ive pocket carried since mid 1990s in a pocket holster right front pocket.. originally a 25 BerettaJetfire
In a leather DeSantis trickster pocket holster..@2003 I purchased a Kel-Tec 32 GEN 1 which I still occasionally carry.. DeSantis Nemesis pocket holster.. to prevent the rim lock issue with .32 acp hollow points I purchased and installed rim lock kits for the magazines in my Kel-Tec no issues since.. next @2012 purchase a Taurus TCP.380 right front pocket in a DeSantis Superfly pocketn holster with flap to prevent printing.. finally a used Smith 342 air lite TI .38 spec at 11 oz unloaded carry it in my front pocket in the DeSantis pocket holster.... I definitely would carry this tomcat.32 in my right front pocket in DeSantis pocket holster... I definitely would take some bright orange paint and paint the front sight.. most likely I would carry FMJ hardball as to avoid the rim lock issue
The DeSantis Trickster is a great holster.
I like the attitude and common sense.
Thanks!
Every time I fire my barrette it jams I use bronze 71grain not sure what I should use I need to find 60 grain and try that.
Try magtech 71 grain fmj. Haven't had any issues and it's under the recommended threshold
Love the sensitivity training. Lot bigger things to get them panties twisted up about. Lot of beautiful things to appreciate way before getting miffed over things that ain't miffworthy. Appreciate the effort put into the content.
A gun like this made sense years ago when pocket pistols were rare to find, but with modern micro 9mm pocket pistols I wouldn't want to carry this when there are so many other, and better options.
Hi James, thanks for sharing your thoughts! A modern micro 9mm is better in many ways, for many shooters, but we can't make the definitive statement that they are objectively better, in all cases. If you're an experienced shooter who isn't recoil-sensitive, absolutely, a micro 9mm is the best choice.
But, some people can't handle the recoil of a small 9mm. Some people can't rack those guns. Some people might need a gun to fit a very specific form factor. Someone might need these very specific features.
Most guns have a niche and a purpose. The Tomcat is no different. Personally, I stockpile 9mm, and shoot very often. I'm not recoil-senstive. For me, a micro 9mm is objectively better than the Tomcat in most circumstances. But I know other people who can't handle small 9mm pistols, for a variety of reasons. And even for me, depending on what I'm wearing, the Tomcat makes sense.
Thanks again for sharing your thoughts! Small guns are an obsession of mine, and I very much enjoy talking about them.
It’s one of the better pocket pistol options on the CA roster, if not the best.
How many magazines do you have/use?
"for pocket carry that would be unwise" you were talking about cocked and locked.... what about a SIG P238 or even this beretta cocked and locked in a proper pocket holster? still unwise?
Love the 32acp great little cartridge!
I've owned a Jetfire since the early 90s, I love that gun but this Bobcat is very interesting.
The Jetfire is super cool!
Just watching a review of the Tomcat and wanted to comment favorably on the review!
Specifically you mentioned muzzle energy with hotter rounds as not being a good choice.
According to Beretta max muzzle energy is 129 foot lbs muzzle energy. When I bought my first one the gun counter said "just grab any .32 ACP off the shelf, it'll work fine".
Well, I got some Italian .32 ACP which I later learned was waaaay too hot for the Tomcat. I managed to only fire 21 rounds of it before the barrel would not stay latched down due to the damage.
Anyway, thanks for mentioning the ammo spec specifically.
I own to Tomcats, I like the gun, it conceals easily in a proper pocket holster, easy shooting, accurate, and reliable.
Mine was terrible with norma as well. I just got this pistol. I felt like norma didnt have enough kick. Thanks for confirming that it just doesnt like norma.
I bought a Tomcat back in 2001 for use as a backup gun. To be honest, I actually didn't like it that much. It remains to this day the only pistol I have ever sold and I bought a .32ACP NAA Guardian instead. I couldn't really articulate it then why I didn't like it. 20 years and many handguns later, I have discovered that DA/SA autos don't really do it for me. Fortunately, I was able to give it a good home with someone who did appreciate the Tomcat for what it is
Funny story my great aunt my grandmother's sister, gave me a Beretta 3032 Tomcat LOL she used to carry it in her purse when she lived in Arkansas, I reside in Nevada and it is a great open carry belt gun. I can work all day without it slowing me down or being a nuisance on my hip and the grouping is surprisingly good I've only put about 200 rounds through it so far but for only having a seven round magazineX2 Plus One in the chamber I have no worries if I were to be involved in a self-defense situation.
And to any anti-gunners that stumble upon this comment and video just remember and keep in mind that in the right hands a gun is a shield that can stop somebody with a weapon in their hands.
I had an older one that the grips kept coming loose and pinching me. Maybe I'll give these another look.
That would've driven me crazy.
How does it compare to the Seecamp?