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Your have one of the most underrated cello channels. No one makes better instruction video’s with consistency.
Thank you, Jesper. I will remember all of you when our channel is "rated, that I promise.
@@CelloCoach This Yamaha Electric Cello is way more portable than the Cecilio. Those geared tuners are way easier to use than friction pegs since they break easily.
Totally agree!
Realy hard to justify a 2k investment if you're not a professional.
As a professional cellist, this was the single most informative and enjoyable video on the subject I have ever seen. Subscriber now for life. Thank you Jonathan :)
I got one. To the relief of my cats. There is a reverb setting that is so much fun. It keeps its tuning so much better than my traditional cello. It’s light and sturdy. I play it with head phones. I love it.
glad for you
Nice video! I just wish he would have us hear the unplugged sound... I am looking for this everywhere on the internet and I can't find!! So frustrating that no one have thought to shows that very important part.
Yay! I’m fortunate enough to have an SVC-210, SVC-50, and NS-WAV in my apartment right now - I’ll follow up probably this weekend with a quick video reply regarding some of the differences between the three that i haven’t seen directly compared on the internet. I’m definitely keeping the SVC-210! Mantis!
Exciting!
Do you think it would be okay to learn on a SVC-210? I worry that I'd miss something fundamental about the cello.., but on the other hand maybe I'd be able to practice much more often
@@FergusMeiklejohn If renting a cello was an option I would've 100% went that route. Regardless of warnings not to learn on an electric, any cello you can get your hands on works.
Tina Renschen I would love to know your impression between the 3 I’m looking at the 2 Yamaha or possibly the Wav or NXT ns design cello
how does the svc-50 compare to the 210? I’m thinking of getting one once I graduate, but might need to go with the cheaper one
I enjoy your channel! I feel you make playing cello in the 21st century relatable and relevant.
Im saving up, I'm going to have one.
Brilliant review btw, thank you!
thanks so much for this. been looking for a good review. Cheers!
You're welcome!
Such a wonderful, friendly aura you have about you! I truly enjoyed watching this and your smile was infectious - please don't stop!
Thank you so much!
I was happy with my cello until I saw those tuners. instant gear envy.
They are wonderful!
@@CelloCoach Compared to the Cecilio, the Geared tuning machines make the electric cello alot easier to tune for everyone Beginner to expert since friction pegs break easily.
@@CelloCoach No more messing w/ those boring old friction pegs, crank away those geared tuners when you tune it up & also get a string winder so you can easily restring it. They highly recommend that you change the tailpiece out w/ one that doesn't have fine tuners.
Geared tuners make tuning easier
I do LOVE the pegs, sooo easy to tune!!
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Thanks!
Great content 😊
Hey, I traveled around Europe with an acoustic cello, an amp, and recording gear all by foot and bus for about a year. Definitely considering buying this ... Today!
thank you for the video. Yamaha should send you a free cello for being a good salesman :)
Hello cello player and much respect to you for taking our music to the public. If you are ever in France, hit me up.
Thank you so much, i have been waiting for this one. Glad to hear you like it. I have major cello envy. Is it safe to say this cello is less susceptible to humidity and temperature changes?
I would agree with you, mismatmom, in your conjecture. Less susceptible, just not immune.
@@CelloCoach Geared tuning machines make tuning the cello much much easier for beginners because friction pegs break really easily.
Just got this cello and i do love it. Pegs are so easy to use. Feels very well made. Easily folds down and packs away. I was able to play it immediately. Fits like a real cello on your body so you dont miss any contact points. My husband says its too quiet he cant hear me play.
Nice video Jonathan, I was wondering why there is no mention of playing within an orchestra alongside acoustic Cellos...impossible really, wouldn't you agree? (I am a beginner Cellist but play bass and did own an NS CRM4)
I have been wanting to learn the cello for many years now but yesterday I decided to actually save money to buy me this thing. Love the fact that I can play silently with this and record it without a fancy microphone. If it doesn't have a major drawback compared to acoustic celli, I see no reason not to choose the Yamaha SVC-210.
It has Geared Tuners that point down at a 90 Degree angle
Wonderful commentary! I am attempting to switch from violin to cello (violin was stolen and I was gifted a beautiful cello that seems to beautiful to part with) and I can relate to being searched. I actually think a violin case is “probable cause” to search and I can only imagine getting your cello searched ! Too funny !
Wonderful! Glad you like my review!
Just love the sound of a cello...
Thanks for the review, Jonathan! Does the sound on an electric cello degrade if played infrequently, as can happen on an acoustic cello?
I think it does
Thank you for sharing. Do you have to purchase a separate ticket to bring the cello on board with you? Thank you!!
Hi! Thank you for the review! What is the difference between this and 210SK? I think I also saw a white version of this somewhere. Is that a special edition?
It’s the same model. Just a different color. Yamaha makes three different models : the 50, the 110, and the 210.
Can you give some recommendations for bows, for people like myself that are new to the cello? Thank you for making the video. I was hesitant to purchase a cello. I live in an apartment and nervous of noise complaints. I am considering this silent cello.
Thank you for sharing, very helpful. I have a question. This one can be carried like a carry-on bag without declaration is required. Or I still need to ask the airline if I can carry it without buying an extra ticket. Thanks.
Be at the gate as soon as possible, talk to the crew and make sure you are placed in line so your cello is placed in a storage cabin compartment, usually reserved for crew only. Be kind and honest.
4:22 These Arms also have a Rubber Stopper to protect the finish from scratches.
yup
Wondering if you’ve had a chance to try the SVC-50 yet. I’m mainly looking for a quiet(ish) instrument to practice after my kids go to bed because my acoustic is LOUD.
I love this cello, it allows me to play at anytime. Actually you can have it white too, and my bag is quite different.
I noticed that too, though Yamaha does not offer it in white. It is a custom color bought from EVS?
@@CelloCoach yes it's a custom color but so beautiful. Mine is original brown. There's also the svc50 that comes in black a little different though
@@CelloCoach They're working on it.
I’ve been seeing those dragon cellos on eBay for years and I don’t think I’ve ever been able to find a review for one.
What does it actually sound like in the room? How silent is it?
No. That's not what I'm thinking. I'm thinking "it's 2am and despite never having played a cello and not really having any desire to start playing one, I have somehow ended up watching a full review of an electric cello...." Why? No idea.. Strangely enjoyable though. :D
Glad you liked it, Pete!
You got me in troubles... I want it in my life too!!! 😍 do you know what’s the weight of this beauty, case included? Thank you, I love your channel!!
Thanks Anna. Weight and dimensions os the Yamaha SVC-210 are as follows:
Weight: 3.9kg (with batteries and all supports, not in the case)
Width: 438mm
Height: 1251mm
Depth: 243mm
Source : www.yamahamusiclondon.com/SVC-210-Silent-Cello/pidYAM-SVC210-CELLO
Did you took this cello in the Plane where the people are sitting or in the luggage compartment?
Hi Jonathan, I’ve got the 210 as well. Have you done anything to the original bridge? I found it a bit on the high side and I wonder if I should take it to the luthier or not. Thanks!
Spot on, Lester! It IS on the high side and yes, I will be taking it in for a closer shave ;-)
Hello, I wonder if the SVC210 fits in the standard sized cello hard-case? (I know that defeats the purpose of its portability design.)Thank you.
i wish more than anything i could get one and learn cello i love it
how, sound quality wise, does this model compare to the SVC50 (which i have and am considering upgrading) also, on the headphones, AKG open ear headphones are great as not
only can you hear it in stereo, but you can hear everything in the background due to the open back headphone.... on more trick, forger about batteries, a dc extension cord works great and you get better audio quality when it is fully powered.
Jonathan Humphries, I've a few Qs,
1. Are all the SVC cellos the same with the effects & reverbs, & used with headphones
2. Are the bows & strings the same as regular ones, & if not could you recommend I'm hoping to get one for a reasonable in the near future
The strings it comes with are addario helicore so yes normal strings, and yes normal bow.
Can you please plug in the headphones, because most silent electric instruments still make a noise and we are wondering if it will still be somewhat loud for neighbours in condos or apartments.
Excellent video on this cello. However, I would also like to have heard what it sounds like without the instrument turned on.
Noted! my latest comparison of the two cellos demonstrates this and much more
Hi have you heard about the leeche elc cell possible to your insight on this instrument
What bow would you recommend for an electric cello? I have a second hand Yamaha SVC50 (beginner)
Hi is the cello the same as a bass guitar and the some tuning?as i play guitar and bass,but I use a rc 505 looper and want to add this to my music.
No, it's 22:44, and I live in a house on a little over an acre of land between two small towns. I haven't lived in an apartment since the late '80s. :-)
Haha, well one day I will live in a house like you too. ;-)
hello friend I need your help which cello is better ns desing or this Yamaha which has better realistic and pure sound?
How do I convince my wife that I need this
Play Cello every night
@@paulgutschow907 i was going to write exactly that, but I would ad play a lot under your skill - just be allay of key and never be right in timing
@@paulgutschow907 LOL brilliant!!!
Was you able to convince her cause I want to convince my husband that I need this 😆
I got it, though actually finding one in stock was difficult. It is a superb cello though, absolutely beautiful.
Does Beyerdynamic DT 252 80 Ohm require an amp to plug into NS CR cello?
Is there a low price electric cello that isn't garbage? I would really like an electric for the quietness, and ease of movement but I can't spend nearly 3 grand, any suggestions?
I am looking to purchase a portable cello. Can you actually bring this cello as a carry on luggage on a flight or you have to purchase a separate ticket for the cello?
What is the advantage of owning the electric cello versus a wood cello? I have been playing for 6 months and still learning. I was considering buying a cello instead of renting. Would like your opinion. Your videos help me tremendously while I learn the cello. Thank you. TeriLG
Hi Teri. The comparison of an electric to acoustic is the same for guitars. You can learn to play on both, though it is good to learn acoustic prior to electric. The major advantage is the variety of sound you can create on an electric, in addition to playing different genres of music. Besides silent practice, the SVC also allows for AUX input, so you can play with your favourite backing tracks.
looks very convenient
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I'd like to know if there's any differences on the bridge/fingerboard compared to the SVC50 and also what are the best strings to use. I have SVC50 and just using Jargar strings, but there is ALOT of tension to press the strings. When I go to the cello shop and try out their different cellos it's like playing butter, you can do thumb positions and runs etc so easily, also the finger boards are wider so no drop offs when playing the A-string and also easier for thumb positions and higher register playing. On this cello it's really hard work, makes playing really advanced practice and pieces just undoable. So if you want to practice the EXTREME TRAINING for the Advanced Cellist by Cassia Harvey, it's a nightmare on this cello.
These Yamaha cellos are not setup properly from the factory. Mine had a wavy fingerboard and high action. Take it a luthier and they will know what work is required to lower the action.
Is there a good electric that is in the middle of price and performance to the two that you have reviewed?
Yes there it! The NS Design NXT amzn.to/374i6IL or WAV Cellos amzn.to/2Xcx3Er
@@CelloCoach Hey, What about Yamaha SVC 50?
The Sound of that Thing certainly takes some getting used to. By the Way, what are your thoughts on something like this for an (absolute totally bloody, but very comitted) Beginner? (Leaving aside the Price Tag for now)
This cello is great for practice, not performance. It has all the physical cue points for a cellist. This very cello was owned by a old student of mine, who - just like you - was an absolute (re)beginner, in the sense he hadn't played cello in 3 decades.
I'd like to hear how it sounds with no amplification.
BEAUTIFUL
Thank you! 😊
Is this a good cello for beginners? Because I'm mainly interested in electronic instruments.
and you've convinced me.
good
What's the name of the piece he played initially?
The Geared tuners are far more superior than friction pegs. You know those Perfection Planetary Pegs?
Going to buy that electric cello for my son and he wants an amplifier . Can u recommend a good amplifier please . Thank u
How did he know what we all were thinking at 2 am ?? 😀
hehe, because we are creative during those dream hours
Sales man don't have a timeline, same approach no mether the time of day :)
So many languages to learn, so many instruments to learn.
How should I do this in one single life?
Hi, I am just curious I am still unclear on how quiet this instrument is to the naked ear whilst I practise with my headphones?
electric cellos cant amit sound without headphones or an amplifier. Its not a normal cello. It doesn't have a sound box. Meaning the only sound you'll hear is your bow gliding across the string. Which is the equivalent of rubbing your finger against a desk. Or another way to put it. Is if u were to tune ur strings to where they barely fall off. And try playing. You'll only hear faint sounds of vibration. but no actual pitch to hear. Understandable?
HI I have the Yamaha SVC50, the body shape is pretty much the same as this one in the video. YES you do get sound. The Yamaha electric cellos have a slim tiny RESONANT body, so it does emit quite enough sound for practicing without headphones or an amp. I've had my brother yelling at me to shut up from downstairs, with my door closed whilst I was practicing Suite for Cello by Gaspar Cassado. If the max volume of a full body resonant bassy cello is a a 10, this electric cello would be a 1 or 2 max.
My neighbours are old and deaf so they can't hear it. If you live in a shared house and want to practice all night, it will definitely be heard by your housemates. Depends if they like to sleep to your playing or not. i'm assuming the other reply doesn't know these Yamahas. It's definitely audible without an amp!! I often practice with and without headphones and also plug it into a bluetooth speaker. You can probably plug in an adapter to be able to use the bluetooth wirelessly.
at 10:34 in the video, that's the sound you'll hear without headphones or amp.
@@francescaromanin5897 thank you
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Thank you Hussein!
Hi Iam currently learning on the cello and Iam very much interested in this model as my upgrade I have playing since Feb of this yr and making good progress
Yamaha are good in everything they touch
From motos to pianos, the tri-tuning forks have been wrecking it worldwide for over a century!
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Can the NS Design cello have this feature as well? Can I just plug in earphones and be able to play it like this?
Yes, the CR level has the headphone jack
Not just for people who want a silent cello. It's also for poeple with limited square footage who don't want to dedicate an entire closet just to an instrument.
Does anybody have a recording of the in-room, unplugged sound/volume?
Check out my latest review
Seems to be great for playing silently, but the sound of the Yamaha Silent Cellos is a little bit reedy.
what is a good 800-1100 el cello?
As a brass player, I nearly can't tell the difference between the tenor range of this electric cello and a real cello.
Never thought of that. ok...
Just one question. What is the name of the piece you played at around 10:21
The Swan by Camille Saint-Saens.
Compared to an acoustic cello with a Artino metal/rubber mute, how quiet is it? (Is there a large difference)
Much more quiet
It comes with handy headphones
Also can you travel with that 'carry-on' or do you need to check it into luggage.....? Coz I've seen what baggage handler's do to the baggage they're chucking around....????
It works as a carry-on, as long as you are front of the line and there is space, yes.
@@CelloCoach Awesome!! Sounds very interesting! I think my family would appreciate silent practice😜
Hi have you ever heard stagg electric cellos
Question
What is your advice for someone with dyslexia trying to learn playing cello by themselves?
Great question - learn by association, for the scores are not for reading but reference. Associate the notes with physical movements more than printed symbols.
A Boss Kantana Wireless Amp ought to avoid tripping hazards.
really? ok!
Does the SVC-210 pack smaller than the SVC-50? The SVC-210 looks like it is smaller packed away than my SVC-50. Also has one extra removable part. How do these 2 cellos compare?
They are the same cello structurally, except for the semi-hollow body, scroll and tuners, soft chest pad and foldable legs of the 210. The 50 case is not as compact as the 210, due to the lack of folding legs.
Hi - my 13 year old wants to play cello - would you recommend an electric cello? Living in PR with high humidity.
sure
For live performances would you just be using a guitar amp?
Shelly Taylor yes. Any amp really. Just bring your instrument and try a few amps (most music stores let you do this) and pick one you like.
Ridiculous question but do you still use rosin on your bow to play an electric cello? Can you use the same bow for this as your instrument?
Yes it uses standard cello strings.
Yup
How much is te cost and who is the seller It?
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I suppose so
@@CelloCoach Because you have machine head tuners (way more modern plus they look kinda like Western versions of Pegs), I'd reccomend to replace the Friction pegs on your Acoustic Cello with machine head tuners (Yinfente makes them the ones that point down) so that tuning is easier (this will allow you to get rid of the fine tuners from the tailpiece).
What about the one that is made in Germany
I am using SVC -110 now. I just realized the pegs of 210 could be folded....At first, I am struggling between 110 and 210. I chose 110 because I prefer the traditional shape since this is the first cello I owned. Now I kinda regret😂
I think the 110 is good for a first cello. The SVC-210 is more arranged for an experienced player who needs the minimal physical cue points. How do you like your 110?
@@CelloCoach Thank you so much for the reply. I love my 110. It is cool and I don't need to worry about bothering my neighbors while practice. But one thing definitely makes me wondering for a really long time-the posture. The first day I held the cello, I feel when I put the chest supporter against the right place of my body, the finger board and the first peg will not fall behind my ear perfectly. I think it is because the length of the chest supporter legs(the thing with yamaha logo) is fix and not flexible? I try to adjust the body touch point to chest supporter, the result is either my head hit the peg or the finger board is too high parallel with my eyes. It ends up my torso bending to fit the cello instead of keeping rigid.If I don't, the finger board will be far away left from my neck, having a 25- 30 degrees like this "/" .I still haven't found the solution. I searched the whole internet and cannot find any posture video using electric cello. Do you have the same issue with your 210? If there is a chance to show us the electric cello posture, it will be so great! Thanks.
I've read the 110 sounds more acoustically accurate than the 210. Is this true? Can you tell a difference in sound between the two? Both look exactly the same minus the outer extras and tuner pegs.
Me too! Although I love my scv-110. Somet hing Johnathan didn't mention, both the 110 and 210 have a small sound box, they are not 100% electronic, like their predecessors. The chest rest transmits all the vibrations, I actually feel it more than in my acoustic cello.
Oh no a soft case? Nah not traveling with that.
Is there an electric cello that requires no tuning?
Watching this at exactly 2am
Cool
Do NXTa Cello I wanna buy this cello one day. :)
Maybe a CR but the NXTa is something I can review after the CR.
@@CelloCoach sounds good let me know when you got it. I know the nxta is the best of both worlds (NXT Passive no battery, CR Active Battery Required and NXTa active/pasive no battery required.) :) so maybe instead of the regular nxt you could try the nxta (no active mode) to show how a nxt would be and Nxt (active mode) to show the actual active mode I hear its just as good as the CR without the worry of the battery. :)
what is being played here?
🏆
Will you buy this as your first cello?
I love it ..coming from a rocker....the electric cello ...fkn metal ...don't judge me ...well not to hard
You've come to the right place, Jason.
I wonder if the svc-210 could keep totally silent while playing?
Not completely but well close enough. It's akin to an unplugged electric guitar or bass.
@@CelloCoach Thank you very much for reply, master! ^_^
@@CelloCoach Dear master, if you recorded the sound using a pickup or directly without a pickup when you playing?
With this It seems like I can go into 40th position no problem
What's the difference between the SVC 50 & the 210?
Good question, I need to research that
Now do I buy a laptop or cello.