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How to remove a stuck moen 1222 shower faucet cartridge without puller
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- čas přidán 29. 08. 2018
- This is a step by step instruction on how to remove a stuck moen 1222 shower faucet cartridge without puller using a hair dryer.
Hair dryer for the win. Thank you. You just saved my marriage. 🤣
same.
Tried for 2 hours this morning to pull the old cartridge. Saw your video and used the hair dryer. Pulled it slowly with locking pliers and have a new cartridge in the shower. Thank you.
This was war: the Moen shower faucet cartridge vs little me. After almost 1½ hrs, I won the battle. I think applying the heat helped a great deal. Thank you.
Thank you very much. The Moen videos just show a brand new cartridges sliding out. When most (all?) of us are dealing with years old cartridges with buildup. Not to mention how many of us ALSO are dealing with a broken stem. This did the trick. And I never would have thought heat was the trick. hank you so much I love CZcams and the helpful community within it.
I just wanted to say in 2022 I'm watching this video and thanks. I was stuck trying....catridge puller didn't work alone. The heat definitely helped...saves me money and if I would have come across your vid sooner would have saved me a few weeks of turning off and on from access panel for showers because I was determined to do this myself and not hire anyone...Thanks Again!!!
The hairdryer worked perfectly, thank you so much for the tip. It helped me to pull the 34 yrs old leaking cartridge out right away after applying hairdryer heat for 10 minutes.
Wow! Like everyone else, thank you!!! To anyone thinking of giving up, just be patient with the heat! I got mine halfway out and it still wouldn't budge after 15 minutes. Tried another 15 and it came right out! (The rubber pieces on the side of my Moen positemp cartridge had completely fused to the side. I literally had to use the heat to soften the rubber enough to then rip out! It would've been impossible without the heat!) Thanks again!!
The hair dryer was amazing! I was about to give up, saw your video, used the hair dryer and out it came. It still took some muscle, but all the other videos don't even come close to solving the problem.
This video should get an award for the year. This saved my day! Thank you!
Glad it helped!
Just battled a stuck cartridge and found this video, worked like a charm. Thanks!
Thanks for the hair dryer idea. I used the hair dryer for a while with no success. I then sprayed the cartridge with WD-40, gave it a few minutes to soak in, and then gave it more heat (about 5 minutes). Then I attached the cartridge puller and was able to get the cartridge to turn. The heat definitely helped but mine was installed for over 15 years and needed the wd-40 to get it loose. I had watched Moen’s video on cartridge replacement before starting the job which made it look so easy that I thought I was doing something wrong. Then I searched for stuck cartridge and found this helpful video and saw that they made it look way too easy .
Never would have thought of using a hair dryer! Many, many thanks. Saved me having to take 2 trips to store (once for specialty tool and second for cartridge once I knew which one) in single digit temps and high wind. Back from store and going to put it all back together and take a long, hot shower!
Was just about to give up, and I couldn't get the damn cartridge to come out, no matter what, even used the Danco tool, which broke, called a plumber and left a message, in the mean time, I watched your video, put the hair dryer on for about 5 minutes and with a little muscle it came the hell out. Many thanks
Thank you so so much! The hairdryer was what did it for us. 20+ year old cartridge. It took a good 15 minutes of high heat, but it eventually came out. Don't give up hope, friends!
Man I appreciate the tip! The hairdryer worked perfectly! I was struggling forever to get that dn cartridge out. 10 minutes of hairdryer and bam! It was out! Thanks man!👍👍👍
Great trick. Struggled with removing the old cartridge until I found your vid. After 6 min of high heat from a hair dryer directed at the cartridge it loosened up and I was able to remove it in one piece.
Genius!! I watched no less than 10 videos and this was the only one that helped!!! Heat was the key. Thank you
DITTO THAT!!
You, sir, are my hero! Today I was able to replace my own cartridge; and, I needed every single step you provided. It worked beautifully! The name of your CZcams channel is perfect because today your video empowered me. Love and blissings to you! 🙏
Just when I was about to give up... it worked! Thank you for this video. I had to blow dry it for 15 minutes. Cartridge was 21 years old. Thanks a million.
THANK YOU!!!
Your easy to follow instructions and especially the tip about using the hair dryer were spot on! Other videos showed similar techniques, but applying heat to the valve is what did the trick.
$40 for the cartridge and 15 minutes later, and VIOLA! Done deal! I've made fire!! Lol!!
Thanks again!! 👌👍
Just so you know moen will replace things for you for free . As long as you’re the “original buyer “ 😉
This was the most helpful tip! That pre heat changed the game. I didn't have a ton of manpower to put behind pulling it and lacked the huge set of pliers/wrench to manhadle it. Turns out one plastic side was jammed. Probably into the hot side which explains my hot water problems for the past several months. Thank you so much!
You just made my day! I was having no luck with a 22 year old cartridge & was afraid I was going to break it off like some of the other CZcams videos show. Then I ran across your video & the tip to heat the valve. Bingo! 5 minutes with the wife's hair dryer & it loosened right up with the included Moen plastic tool. Then just a slow pull with my channel lock pliers and out it came. I stuck my finger into the valve bore to see how bad the surface was & was quickly reminded I had just spent 5 minutes heating it up! Do that AFTER it cools! Thanks mucho.
do you heat the copper or the plastic cartridge?
@@ask43242flight I just heated the whole thing like in the video. The removal tool definitely helped loosen it & the pliers pulled it out.
Thanks so much for the tip! A couple of short sessions with my heat gun on low setting and moving back and forth with the plastic removal tool and the cartridge came right out. I was replacing a brass 1200 cartridge with new one of the same model. Lubed up the o-rings on the new one with silicone plumbers grease and I now have a good working shower valve.
Your tip saved me, as my cartridge got stuck! Also, Moen has a program, where you can go to your local hardware store to get a replacement cartridge for free! Thanks so much!
Thanks for the hair dryer tip. That made all the difference.
Great video! Just what I needed to finish the project. Many thanks my man!
THANK YOU! Your trick with the hairdryer worked flawlessly on a 30 year old cartridge! :)
Using hair dryer and coconut oil and it’s still stuck! It was stuck but the coconut oil and hair dryer did the trick! It took 1/2 hour to remove it because I found this video after trying yesterday for about 20 minutes and today for 15 minutes. Thank you!
Thank you so much for this straightforward video!! My old moen 1225 cartridge was really jammed in there, but after following your video, removal and replacement was a breeze :)
Thank you so much for this tip! My dad was a plumber and taught me quite a few tricks but this saved us lots of time & trouble!
The hair dryer was the trick to get the cartridge out.
Many Thanks!
This worked! I had a very stuck cartridge and was about to build my own puller. I used a heat gun and within a few minutes it was out! Thank you!
Thank you for this. Between this video and another I got all the answers I needed to change this part and remove it even though it was stuck and wouldnt budge at first. Great video!!
Brilliant. I too had tried everything else with no luck. I tried this and it worked perfectly. It still took a tremendous effort and a little WD 40 as I went along, but it’s all good now. Thank you.
Tried and true...few minutes of the hair dryer and she wiggled right out. Thanks for the tip!!
You the real MVP!! They said I need the cartridge puller? PSSSSHHH. Thanks for the insight!
You are the best, 3 hours been trying and already had give up, will try later and report
I'm at 6 hours and still stuck. How did yours go?
@@nram1 it broke, then you have to break and pull out the pieces, i was afraid of breaking the tile or the tubing so i used a wedge for the tubing against the tile and my foot on the tile, best thing was that broke because then i could stop pulling
Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! The dryer method actually worked!!!
OMG!!!! You saved me money and frustrations thank you for sharing. I’ve been trying to get this thing out for weeks!!!!
Save me a trip to HD and money. Great tip. Thumbs up.
So glad I found this video, I was getting so frustrated and nothing else was working.
Wow thank you so much. Mine was stuck and the stem just twisted around, it was disconnected inside the cartridge. The hair dryer trick worked and I was able to remove the old one without damaging anything.
It took a few times but the heat did work. I sprayed with goof off and also vinager let it sit overnight. I got a good pull on it with the T bar puller from ACE and it jerked out in 1 piece. Thanks for this tip!
Great. My favorite part is using the plastic removal tool to push in and seat the new cartridge, Thanks.
Out of all the.videos on youtube. Yours was the most helpful. I even used the hair dryer and finally that dang cartridge came.out!! It was tough getting back in , a ended up using wd40..I wanted to say Thank you for saving this single lady alot of money!!! Appreciate you :) NY
Thank you! The hair dryer technique is amazing. My cartridge was stuck and the little white plastic tool that comes with the new cartridge is of no use on a stuck cartridge. 3 minutes of hair dryer and voila.
Hello and thank you so much for this tutorial!
We couldn't take it out and after using the hair dryer finally were able to take it out.
Best video ever!
Your video really help big time today when changing this and it was stuck !! Appreciate the great video
hairdryer for 5 minutes straight pointed at the unit worked for me when giving that ole plastic a twisty back and forth motion thanks :) 0
I work at a plumbing supply shop and one of our most common problems regarding Moen products is stuck cartridges. You did a very good job of explaining the process of removing the cartridge from the valve. But you made a mistake on one thing. The lubricant is meant for the o-ring, not the cartridge itself. It is a waterproof silicone-based lubricant made specifically to extend the life of the o-ring on the cartridge. Depending on what kind of water purification system you have, those o-rings can wear out pretty quickly (which causes a leak). Other than that, great job!
I know this is an older video, but the instructions from Moen specifically state to "apply lubricant to cartridge oval on both sides". It makes no mention of using lubricant on o-ring.
@@gregr1115 ... I agree. Didn't mention o-ring lubrication.
Thank you!! Nothing we tried was working. Some heat from the blow dryer, a little bit of WD-40, and a whole lot of strength and we finally got the full of gunk due to old pipes cartridge out!
Thank you for your hair dryer idea! It is very useful 👍
Excellent. I saved a lot of money. Thanks to you.
Yea except I need to get the old one out FIRST so I know which one to buy.
The video title literally says this is for a #1222 model, which means the video is made for those who already know they have a #1222. Surely you aren’t that dumb.
Check several other fix-it's... But Empower is the BEST! and easiest method. My valve was stuck solid, after doing the hair dryer for 10 minutes it came out pretty easy, just have to pull on it very hard.
Thanks Empower Guy!
Amazing! You just saved me a ton of headache!! My cartridge was stuck and no matter how hard I pulled on it, it wouldn't budge. I put some heat on it and gave it a wiggle back and forth and it loosened up enough pull it out without too much effort. I did use a heat gun, because I happen to have one handy; but I'm sure a blow dryer would do the trick. Thank you!!
Thank you! I was trying so hard and this finally worked. Appreciate it!
Glad it helped!
Glad the hair dryer trick worked, but for $15 the Danco puller is worth it.
Thank you. Had the thing apart and ur video was the key to removing the stuck old unit.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE VIDEO!!!l My brother-in-law tried to fix my faucet tonight and the cartridge was stuck. He could not get it out and he wanted to knock a hole in the sheetrock behind the shower. After seeing your video, I took my wife's hair dryer and warmed up the pipe and the cartridge came right out! He was in there pulling and hammering for over three hours and after five minutes of heat, the thing popped right out. You saved me tons of money since I didn't have to call a plumber and pay premium pay for the weekend!
Thanks. Was about to give up and watched this video. Didn’t use heat but did use the “tool” that came w new one.
Definetly helped a ton with the hair dryer tip. Thanks a bunch.
Hair dryer tip was awesome. Thanks so much.
Empower, thanks man. I used a heat gun and was able to get it to break loose. I was about to call a plumber right before I watched your video. Much thanks!!! Happy Thanks Giving and a Merry Christmas to you and your family.
Out of all the videos i watched.. yours was the best! Thank you! Now i don’t have to hear my girl mouth no more about fixing it 🤣🤣🤣
Hair dryer was effective. Thanks a lot
Hair dryer worked. Bravo! Thanks!!
Glad it helped!
Thank you, thank you.......have been trying all day.......it worked!!!
The hair dryer. I may use it before I start to pull on the cartridge. I hope that solves any potential problems. My city water has some real corrosion issues. Thank you! I like the background music too.
This video helped me out a ton for removing the valve! Thumbs up and subscribe earned.. Thanks a ton!
Great tip. Came out right after I hit it with the heat
Most Useful Video on the Subject 😃😃😃😃 Thank You
Thanks for the tip about using the hair dryer. That really worked. Just as the previous reviewer mentioned, saw your video just when I was about to give up. It took almost 30 mins of alternating between hairdryer, wd40 and some muscle power. But ultimately with one person doing the clockwise and anticlockwise action and another using a wrench to do the pull action, it finally came out.
The Hairdryer was magical. Thanks for the simple tips. Saved me the trip to buy the puller tool .yada yada yada
Thank you so much for posting this video! Just replaced a Moen 1222 cartridge but at first I couldn't get it to come out. Tried the hair dryer trick for 5 minutes and got it half-way out, so I used the hair dryer a couple more minutes and was able to remove it! Really appreciate your post, thanks again!
YESSSSSSSSS!!!!!! This is the one right here!!! Super grateful! 🙏🏾
As someone who just finished dealing with a stuck MOEN cartridge without the special OEM tool, WD40 IS YOUR FRIEND!! Lube the living hell outta the crack between the cartridge and the pipe, wait about 7 minutes, then get some normal pliers and grip the part of the plastic on the left and right of the "HC" text (around the middle where the brass comes out) REALLY hard. You'll want gloves for this, as my pliers gave me a nasty bite on my first attempt. Don't try to grip the brass, you won't get enough purchase. Pull firmly while turning back and forth. Lube some more if you don't make further progress, then wipe the excess and pull/twist again. Patience is key here, any progress is better than no progress or breaking it. Repeat until the cartridge pops out. Took me about 2 hours to figure it out my first time doing this. When you get the cartridge far enough out, you can grip the circular portion for better leverage. If you need some help in the early stages, there should be a slot near the top you can get a screwdriver into to coax it out. Take your time and make sure the water main is off. If the handle is upside down to turn off the water, you just need to flip the black plastic part and you're good to go.
good suggestion. I think I've tried everything and it's still stuck.
Here is a simple trick to get the valve out.
Take off the shower head and replace with a standard end cap (1/2" black iron cap - less than $2). Take the pin off the cartridge and turn on the main water supply. Wait until the valve is pushed out by water pressure or you can help it out with pliers. (Have someone ready to turn off water supply) Done!
I might try that if this hairdryer doesn't work!
Thanks. This was super useful!
Thank you! Came right out!
Alright, useful troubleshooting video that doesn't demand 20 minutes of my time, great work! You did forget one thing though, remove all caulk before placing eschueon back on and re-caulk afterwards. Otherwise, you could have a REAL and EXPENSIVE project.
Worked like a champ, SCIENCE!!!
Heat hun did the trick, THANKS for the tip.
Running hot water through the valve is easier than using a hair dryer. It would take two people to do this unless you have plumbed in some cut off valves nearby.
without watching this video i wouldn't have known that there was a removal tool with the replacement lol.. thanks
This was great help! Barely got it out after 10 minutes with the hair dryer but half the plastic piece ripped out and is still logged in the pipe. Any tips to get the rest out? Going to try to air dry it for another 10 minutes and try and fish it out with a flat head screwdriver. Oh boy, just my luck..
Wow i fall on your video accidently and banm the heat thecnic was the best instead of ordering the puller on Amazon and the sit and wait game.Thumbs up pale!
I don't care about the cartridge. I just came here to learn the word "escutcheon" and listen to kick-ass music.
Just replaced a Moen cartridge today. After confirming it could slightly be rotated, I used an extra screw/washer on the center shaft, and a 2x4 and crowbar to pull it out. The hardest part was to shut off the water, because the valve by the water meter was hard going.
You are the man!!!!!!! This worked!!
Ooowwww! After reading the comments and watching this video, i so hope i have better luck when the use a hairdryer tomorrow😬
It worked! Thanks a lot! 😊
Still saving people in December, 2022!!!
Thank you, the hairdryer worked
Saved my day
Your tips worked. Thank you.
Thank you!!!!!
I just removed a 1222 cartridge. First time for me. It was really stuck. I'm not sure if an after market cartridge was used by the plumber.
I tried slip joint pliers:
Twisted it from side to side using long nose pliers.
Vinegar and WD40
It partially came out then stopped.
I went and bought an off brand puller. I thought this is going to be easy now. Nope.
It wouldn't pull out.
It finally snapped. Lucky it was partially out.
I broke the plastic with a flat head screwdriver and pulled pieces out with long nose pliers.
Some rubber from the cartridge was really sticking. This portion of the removal was quite easy. I made sure all the plastic was out.
Now I've got a puller tool that I'll probably never use again.
If you don't have the plastic removal tool (if, like me, you had to remove the cartridge to see what you needed to buy), you can do the same thing with an open needle-nose pliers, using the ends to work the cartridge back and forth to loosen it up - a makeshift wrench that sort of fits around the stem. The heat worked, too.
My other problem was getting the new one in all the way to get the retaining clip in, as my builder didn't secure the plumbing to any studs, and some plastic disc, just bigger than the shower hole, blocked access.. (Thanks, Ryan Homes.) Had to reassemble the escutcheon just to firm it up enough to tap the cartridge in with a hammer. Disassemble, put in the clip, reassemble. Argggh.
Yours came out with the rubber sides still intact, mine were jammed into the hot and cold valve body ports. I'll try heating next time. Previously, I had to rig up pry bars on each side of a handle on a "removal" tool that can't remove the cartridge more than a few millimeters due to the tabs on the top and bottom of the cartridge.
I broke off the tabs, then used a puller, worked like a charm.