Is TrueNAS CORE Dead? - TrueNAS SCALE vs CORE

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  • čas přidán 24. 06. 2024
  • In this video, I will be reviewing the differences between TrueNAS SCALE and TrueNAS CORE, how to decide which one is right for you, and where I think TrueNAS will be taking each one in the future.
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    TOC:
    00:00 Introduction
    01:15 History of TrueNAS CORE
    04:37 History TrueNAS SCALE
    07:04 Feature differences
    09:52 Why I use SCALE - driver issues with CORE
    12:45 Which one is right for you
    17:07 What's next
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Komentáře • 33

  • @jeffreyrh
    @jeffreyrh Před 3 měsíci +17

    If only every content creator would get to the point as quick as you do! Great job.

  • @Tomeo2134
    @Tomeo2134 Před 3 měsíci +4

    Right on time lol. Was wondering about this question, even the drives are on the way currently for a first ever NAS.

  • @dudeh9702
    @dudeh9702 Před 3 měsíci +3

    I'm about to put together my first TrueNAS system based off my 2013 FreeNAS build that never happened. I was super gung-ho about going with Core since all I want is a NAS with SMB shares. Then I read Kris Moore (SVP Engineering, iX Systems)'s forum posts. He's a huge BSD guy but he laid out a case that Linux is really the way forward, and it's a pain for a company supporting two code-bases.
    I'm going with Scale for my builds from the get-go, here in the next month. Looking forward to the 2024 version of Scale which fixes the L1ARC memory allocation.

  • @lukeski14
    @lukeski14 Před 3 měsíci

    Love the essence of this video--Core has been working for me and I even tried a migration to Scale in the past 6mo. and had to roll-back. But this is great to answer which is right for me!

  • @US_Joe
    @US_Joe Před 3 měsíci +1

    Thanks for the class Rex. You're a good instructor. 👍👍👍

  • @knoxduder
    @knoxduder Před 3 měsíci +1

    Crutch words identified!
    “Rock Solid Steady”
    Great information! Thank you !

  • @sinisterpisces
    @sinisterpisces Před 3 měsíci

    Excellent video. Thanks!
    I really wish iX would be more concrete about the roadmap for CORE at this point. I'd like to know for sure when we can expect no more feature updates, or no more automatic ZFS updates (vs. updating ZFS manually).
    I'm in the middle of building my first TrueNAS box, a CORE machine, and it seems like the minute I actually started putting it together, things got weird. :P

  • @MegaSunspark
    @MegaSunspark Před měsícem +1

    When I woke up this morning my wife told me that I was mumbling in my sleep last night: "....Rock Solid Steady..." 😂
    But good show...thanks for the explanation. I've been pondering replacing my old, old, store bought NAS with building one on my own, using old left over PC parts, updating parts as needed.

  • @ron5521
    @ron5521 Před 2 měsíci

    to the point and informative thanks!

  • @selbeast
    @selbeast Před 2 měsíci

    Great info. Thank you.

  • @leeksoup3199
    @leeksoup3199 Před 3 dny

    this is really something to think about...I have been running Core for the last year, but I am getting a bit tired of some the bugs of Core. Like broken keyboard and mouse inputs in Linux VMs, as well as plugins not being maintained. The main thing keeping me on Core is how little information I can find about moving my VMs over to Scale. I cannot seem to find a solid answer on how to do this properly.

  • @bananabear009
    @bananabear009 Před 6 hodinami

    I am in media production. Any possibility that you can make a video on TrueNAS for storing photos and video footages? That would be great if you can suggest what are the options for that specific purposes.

  • @jttech44
    @jttech44 Před 3 měsíci +1

    I haven't seen a scale box have any real problems tbh, it's debian at its core, debian is rock solid and has a much larger install base than freeBSD does. Yeah there's been some UI bugs, but, in terms of the server itself, it does its job as reliably as Core did, with vastly better hardware compatibility.
    What I really wish they'd do is make a scale-lite release, with none of the virtualization/apps nonsense. Realistically, what most people need is Debian+ZFS+Thoughtful Config+Thoughtful Management+GUI, prettymuch in that order. That's my only real complaint with scale as-is, and, you don't have to use it, and you can configure ZFS's ARC to use the correct amount of memory easily, so, not really a problem by any means, it's just nice to have a simpler OS, less overhead, more secure due to fewer packages running, etc.

    • @elksalmon84
      @elksalmon84 Před 3 měsíci +1

      +easy way to install and maintain software (plugins/apps). And without it Core will be unusable for most. While Apps in Scale are broken at this point. They are unmaintainable.

    • @jttech44
      @jttech44 Před 3 měsíci

      @@elksalmon84 Just install docker if you really want to run things on the same box. Docker with Yacht or Portainer for webUI and you're good to go.
      Personally, I'd much rather have that running on a separate box.

  • @lev_anni
    @lev_anni Před 2 dny

    Interesting if it's possible to install the Scale OS on a TrueNAS Mini X platform which comes with the Core OS preinstalled?

  • @knoxduder
    @knoxduder Před 3 měsíci

    What about Guy that doesn’t need it running all the time and just likes playing with old hardware and wants a NAS with options to play with ?
    This might solve my 2.5gb issue , as I’m not hitting anywhere mere 2.5gb after adding a new NIC and getting a new router.

  • @bru2al1tyusa82
    @bru2al1tyusa82 Před 3 měsíci +1

    New drinking game, take a shot every time you hear "rock, solid, steady" lol

  • @StenIsaksson
    @StenIsaksson Před 3 měsíci +1

    I'm just going to use TrueNAS for storage. I don't really care about VM's and Docker.
    For me I rather have stability than new features and being a "Beta-tester".
    As long as Core work for me, I will use it.

    • @jttech44
      @jttech44 Před 3 měsíci

      You don't have to use anything you don't want to. I do wish they had a scale-lite version, without the virtualization nonsense, but, as-is, scale works for all the same stuff core does, the same as core does, but with vastly better hardware support. Kindof a no-brainer really.

  • @MartinHiggs84
    @MartinHiggs84 Před 3 měsíci +1

    I think if you just want a NAS no bolt ons I'd pick CORE. If you want docker/vms etc then SCALE.

    • @pepeshopping
      @pepeshopping Před 3 měsíci +1

      Not so fast!
      ALL BSDs have less compatibility than Linux!
      Fact: 2 of my servers would not boot FreeBSD, unless I edit the boot loader!
      Who has the time to deal, work-around, remember or document such things!

  • @pablenmo
    @pablenmo Před 3 měsíci

    I guess I have to upgrade from core to scale, as one of my plugins stopped working.
    I only use my nas for Plex and MineOS, but mineos stopped working completly and just found out that plugins are gonna be deprecated during 2024
    Any tips or guides on how to do the migration?
    I cannot backup my whole 28Tb Plex library to another nas.... I have to be sure the migration is safe

    • @GianniLeonhart
      @GianniLeonhart Před 27 dny

      Scale is a downgrade tho
      Only the Linux cult thinks is better

    • @leeksoup3199
      @leeksoup3199 Před 3 dny

      I am the same, I'm sick of the broken plugins of Core. I will definitely miss Core though. Now I just have to figure out how to move my VMs over

    • @pablenmo
      @pablenmo Před 3 dny

      @@leeksoup3199 I ended up "upgrading" no issues at all. Very simple transition for non tinkering user.
      And is better in the way that you can use the GPU passtrouh with just a couple clicks.
      I left behind Plex and moved to Jellyfin, the gpu transcode live works flawles with a quadro p620, enough trhoughput for 3 users at 4K

  • @pepeshopping
    @pepeshopping Před 3 měsíci

    Ha. I called it, cause I saw it!
    ALL BSDs have less compatibility than Linux!
    Fact: 2 of my servers would not boot FreeBSD, unless I edit the boot loader!
    Who has the time to deal, work-around, remember or document such things!
    I’m a BSD lover. I did compile BSD-4.3-Reno in a VAX machine running ULTRIX!
    But every empire, fad and trend does come to an end!
    I followed my instincts. Moved ESXi to TS Scale and TS Core to TS Scale (why deal with 2 different GUIs?), 6 months ago!

  • @NickDoddTV
    @NickDoddTV Před 3 měsíci +1

    Change the video title to "rock solid steady"

  • @patrickprafke4894
    @patrickprafke4894 Před 9 dny

    Core dead? No. It's jails or "Apps" are. Its still the best option for redundancy.

  • @rodfer5406
    @rodfer5406 Před 3 měsíci +2

    MacOS based on bsd…

  • @rodfer5406
    @rodfer5406 Před 3 měsíci

    Debian is insecure