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- Everything we know about Star Trek: Strange New Worlds' new/old USS Enterprise.
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The official, authorized blueprints show that Kirk didn't face directly forward but rather that the bridge was at an angle. These prints were made in 1975 or so.
I came here to say this as well. You'd think someone with the name 'Trekculture' would do the research and know this.
They were only made "official" because Roddenberry liked the work that went into it. Franz Joseph made all that up all by himself, and only had what we saw on screen to go by. The bridge was turned relative to the turbolift and the turbolift was along the centerline on the model, so be it.
I gotta say I really love this design. Don't really bother by the bigger size. For me this is how the Kelvin Enterprise should have always looked like.
Everything said here about larger budgets, better vfx technology, new methods AND materials for construction, etc. are absolutely SPOT ON!
Let's not, also, forget that what may have looked futuristic in the 60's has been far out paced by today's technologies and aesthetics.
I was born in 64 and yet I'm able to roll with the times and adapt to the changes made and see them as not only cooler in appearance but logical given the times we live in.
The old aesthetic appears 3 times in new Trek, TNG, DS9 and Enterprise (I don't count Voyager because it's movie era),that I remember and while fun to see it looked terribly dated.
Keep up the amazing work guys!
They absolutely revealed what caused the Enterprise's system failures. Number One tells Pike in "An Obol for Charon" that it was the holographic comm systems, and he ordered her to have them all removed, thus explaining why they weren't used by the time TOS rolled around like they were in DIS S1. It's even right there on Memory Alpha.
The whole holographic communication was just stupidity on CBS's part in Discovery, that's Star Wars not Star Trek
@@MrHominid2U right cause only one franchise can have a certain tech. ds9 and voy already had that years prior
@@InvaderNaj No they didn't. They didn't use holograms to communicate it's just dumb. It's dumb in Star Wars too.
@@MrHominid2U ds9 actually did use hologram Communications
@@revenire2913 Saw the whole series several times over, don't remember Star Fleet ever using it.
Being an old Navy guy myself, I know that a Ship changes over time, especially during refits, so I chalk up any changes from the Pre-Kirk Enterprise to the Kirk Enterprise as changes we haven't seen yet, because those changes will done done in a later refit. As was seen with the Enterprise in the Motion Picture, back in the day
So what you're saying is that when Pike first captained the Enterprise in The Cage and the flashback scenes in The Menagerie it looked the way that it did when Kirk captained it, then they completely refitted it sometime prior to Discovery's first season finale, and then they refitted it again prior to the Five Year Mission to go back to its original appearance? That seems like way more work than just saying "okay, it's a retcon."
@@DrakeAurum Or you could say that the refit was accomplished between now and "The Cage" and then Pike was Captain for some time after, till relieved by Kirk
@@DrakeAurum Also, making it 50% smaller is in no way logical.
@@Deltaflot1701 Discovery takes place *after* "The Cage".
There was a quite a few refits during the 5 year mission. Rear nacelle changed as well as the front. Deflector dish changed somewhat as due to constant use every few months. Captain’s chair changed a bit. And stuffs.
It took me 10 years after TNG I realized that the turbolifts were moving up and down and back and forth and side to side in the shift by looking at the directions the lights were moving inside the lift itself LOL
And the trip was always the right length for the conversation.
SHOULD have gone to Spec Savers!
.......and slow AF
Wasn't there a throwaway line about the holo communicators being the reason for Enterprise's system issues and that was then removed entirely?
Yes, it was mentioned at least twice that the holo comms were the cause. Number One later remarked that the system had been ripped out.
yep number 1 said it was the holo comms
was just about to type that myself ;)
You are 100 percent correct! Which is great because I never liked the holo communications. But then again, I'm "old" and like the other way better. ha ha
Captain Pike specifically told No. 1 to rip it out. He said it was like talking to ghosts
I remember, as a kid, seeing the technical specs book for the Enterprise showed the bridge was indeed at an angle and the view screen did not face forward. I thought it was odd back then.
Me too! I bought the blueprints in 1975 as a teenager. I never had any toys as a child. I was so happy and overjoyed spending many weekend hours looking at the details. This was the reason that I became an architectural draftsman as an adult.
Hey, me too.
I commented just now before reading this.
The turbo lift position was addressed in a fan mag back in the late 70s. Yes, it was thought that the bump in the back was where the lift moved to and then went down. ;-)
Which is just as ridiculous an explanation then as it is now, but I guess it's better than "the whole bridge actually faces 30 degrees to port for no particular reason." And we certainly can't just leave it alone and accept that it was a communication mistake between set design and props builders.
Good as any explanation ;)
It IS the bump in the back, and yes, the bridge is canted roughly 45 degrees to port.
If anyone wonders why the OG Enterprise seems to “pop” despite its dated look, it’s because it has nearly perfect 2/3 ratio at almost every angle you look at it. Truly a beautiful ship that modern redesigns will never fully encapsulate.
Agreed
Golden ratio, I would expect?
I strongly disagree. It look awful in 2021!
It probably advantage of something called the “golden ratio” which is 1.618 as that ratio is more aesthetically pleasing to our brain.
" the original enterprise"
Nx01: "am I a joke to you"
Me: Yes, actually. :)
I'm glad they are keeping the nacelle spacing like the original, the thing I most don't like about Abram's Enterprise is the close together nacelles.
I know, right?
Oh yeah, cuz it’s not like there were ships in the prime timeline that had Warp Nacelles really close to eachother… NO YOU DONT COUNT, CONSTELLATION CLASS
I thought Number One said the malfunction was at least in part due to the holo communicator and Pike ordered the system to be taken out?
I was just thinking that. Did we hallucinate this?
Same here.
If not the direct cause, it was a definite contributor.
Yes, precisely this.
Pike hated the holograms. He said he felt like there were ghosts on the bridge.
Cant wait for Strange New World Star Trek & The Enterprise!!! LL&P 🖖🖖
Honestly I think they have found a good balance between modernising the SFX and keeping true to the original.
Yeah Strange New Worlds looks alright, a long way from filming engineering deck shots in a freakin beer factory like the first 2 stupid reboot movies
@@alakani 1st was a Budweiser factory, into Darkness was a Nuclear Fission Lab, The National Ignition Facility in California
Why not a series for Cpt. Mykenzie Calhoun ("New Frontiers")? I enjoyed reading that series more than seeing "DS9"! I hope "Strange New Worlds" will have stories from "Enterprise" too as they do in the books by this name.
It's so refreshing to see others who share my feelings about or whose feelings I share; however you wanna call it. I think an excellent job was done to keep to the original look while using modern VFX to give it a realistic look.
Any time you go messing around with the timeline, it's a wonder anything looks like it should. You gotta expect a brain tweak when all that happens. :)
The original constitution class Enterprise was never referred to as the flagship, 1701-D is the first to be given that status as far as we’re aware.
Correct. Capt. Kirk never claimed in any episode that she was Starfleet’s flagship. I always assumed it would be either the Constellation or the Lexington as they had Commodores as their COs.
Had the Enterprise D & (presumably) the E been the flagship, where was she during the Dominion War? Capt. Sisko was on the Defiant, Chancellor Martok was on the Negh’Var & Adm. Ross’ flagship was the Farragut in DS9’s What You Leave Behind.
Yeah, the original enterprise was really meant to be second place to the USS Constitution. The only reason it became famous was how well it performed on all its five year missions.
I think the Enterprise B might have been the flagship but I’m not sure
it's not like the writers know what flagship means anyway.
True, it wasn't the flagship, even Klingons knew it was a garbage scowl.
@@michaelblackwell7408 I thought they said it should be hauled away AS garbage.
The Writer's Guide for the original Star Trek show was quite specific that the view screen "is not a window".
It’s not a window in this
@@eoghanlacey6384 it never was, after the 2140s.
Cries in Enterprise C
I love how they updated it for modern TV. I think it was a mistake making Discovery have all these cool holo-screens and whatnot for the first 2 seasons, now it makes sense. But how they merge modern TV effects/CGI/etc with the TOS Enterprise is perfect, I love it. I think Discovery is okay, I hope Strange New Worlds brings back TOS and TNG styled Star Trek.
100 % agree with you.
I'm still hoping for a Scot bakula camieo
And maybe a T'Pol cameo too. Maybe I should volunteer my niece Shannon if Jolene won't return to her role.
@@virginiaconnor8350 not sure how cannon it is but it is but I'm pretty sure she dies in 2257 so that works. JH would have to be a academy flash back
The turbo lift & offset bridge was explained, back in 1975, in the Star Fleet Technical Manual. This just paraphrased Matt Jefferies' explanation with diagrams taken from the actual sets. It's also given as a valid reason why the the Cage & TOS Enterprise couldn't have a front window.
The Enterprise obviously gets smaller because it flies too close to a subspace compression anomaly.
Maybe The Doctor, doctored it with his spatial trancendentalism!
The original Enterprise (1701) was an older ship when it was destroyed in the third movie. Robert April was the original captain. He did his tour as captain for 5 years, I think, then the ship was retrofitted before Pike was captain. The ship went through another refit before Kirk got it the first time. Five years later Kirk transfer to the academy and the ship is refitted again before Decker is captain. Then in the first movie we see the ship again being refitted. If you compare the turbo lift from the bridge set in TOS and compare it to the Motion Picture, it is not in the same location either. In fact, there are two lifts in the movie bridge.
Robert April doesn't count. He's a TAS character.
Yes I knew all this. I guess you're trying to tell the people making this video.
@@alphanerd7221 but Captain April is canon, as he was mentioned in Discovery.
I always get a laugh when the Admiral mentions that the Enterprise is 20-years old in STIII and is too old for another refit. It's twice that age according to later canon and in TNG/DS9 we have nearly 100-year old Excelsior class ships still in service!
@@JGlaister Discovery doesn't count either.
When Strange New Worlds comes to its final close, I reckon it will show the Enterprise as it appeared on TOS, as a link to Kirk and the era that began it all.
Probably'll be the first Connie Refit, which happened before TOS.
Yeah@@michaelgreenwood3413, talk about your (yes but no, no but yes) refits.
not before they poke more plot holes into the original series like they did with the gorn.
I love Star Trek so much, I don't even care about all the changes, retcon or not. As long as we have more Star Trek, then there is still hope for humanity.
This makes perfect sense 🙂
wtf is with the insane turbo lifts that really bugged me when watching the last season there was so much empty space you could fit the entire ship inside the turbolift ducts I didn't know the federation had Hogwarts stare technology
Looking forward to SNW, Mount kills it as Pike. Hopefully we'll get Prime Lorca
I agree anson mount is amazing as pike and I'm looking forward to seeing him return as pike
I agree
Mount plays a likeable character.... but it's completely different from the Jeffrey Hunter portrayal, which was very internal. Almost like Batman. Which Mount ironically voiced.
@@Knightfall182 Well said, all these people saying he's great as Pike didn't watch the Cage or read any novels or comics that actually fleshed out Pike. He isn't meant to be a happy, team player like Kirk. Same people who dismiss the obvious 25% different rule.
Discovery was supposed to eventually feature a Prime Lorca. However, since Discovery is now set in the 31st century, probably not going to happen. Ironically, mirror Lorca was actually not a bad captain in the prime universe. Yes, he is ruthless, ex, the torture chamber in his cabin, but he is also a very decisive captain when dealing with the Klingons during the Klingon War. He was probably a captain that will probably fit better during a war than say peacetime.
*Scotties new dialogue for STTNG:Relics:* "N C C 1 7 0 1. No bloody A B C D E F G H I or J. No NX, No Kelvinverse, and definitely no bloody Discovery version..."
I was really hoping that they would give Number One either the first name Majel or the last name Barrett as a tribute to her original actress. Also, did they really name her "Una" because she is Number "One"?
I was also wondering whether Number One was inspired by Una.
@@ers586 I fully expect them to address this in the first episode or two and that it'll turn out to be some cute in-joke between her and Pike, probably at Pike's expense.
I've yet to research this myself, but I'm told the name Una dates back farther than Discovery. That's one for Memory Beta since it's from a tie-in story somewhere. Fills in a blank, anyway, since the pilot had no explanation why she has no name. Seems Pike calls her Number One because that's a cute take on her real name! :-)
Also confirms her mental faculties are superhuman.
Bullshit, it's a discoprise.
Kirk's was the real thing.
@@alm2187 it ties into Peter David's Excalibur novel series if I remember correctly. The character was actually very old and had many names over the years. It's been like probably almost 20 years since I've read them, but if I recall correctly she was also Robin Lefler's mother.
Video gets a like for two reasons.
1. Adams jacket.
2. Pauls "Retcon-stituion" Class
... great work boys 👍
I *really* like this Enterprise design. It's my second favorite, just behind the refit version introduced in TMP.
Did you just call me normal?! Ok now I'm offended
More Star Trek can only be a good thing.
Not if it's bad. That hurts the entire franchise.
History has shown the compete opposite in recent years.
@@OldUKAds * In your opinion
Fixed that for ya
And as soon as something is made that even loosely resembles that I'll agree with you.
@@peterainsworth8026 It has. You just wouldn't know it even if it phasered you in the ass.
Actually I thought it was the holographic communications that caused the catastrophic failure.
Yeah 100%. Then Pike said take out the whole system and they would only use view screens from now on. Figured that was to explain why Kirk didn’t have them.
my turbo-lift-bump headcannon has always been that that was a turbo-cabin storage point. (otherwise the bridge-hull would have been ridiculously *THIN* )
The one thing I hate are the turbo lifts. They make make no sense.
9:46 I mean, since the mirror universe Terrans are more light-sensitive compared to their prime universe counterparts, as we learn from Star Trek: Discovery (most prominently from Lorca), it sounds reasonable that this could lead to other differences in how they perceive things with their eyes...if the writers or fans really wanted to, they could totally say that Georgiou just sees the Enterprise more orange than we do...
No, the writers are just jerks
You honestly can't make everyone happy. Update the look to match modern VFX? Unhappy. Don't? Unhappy.
I think the new Enterprise is bangin' and I'm old enough to remember the ORIGINAL broadcasts.
Yeah, when ever I think 'that looks far to futuristic for the time line', I look back at TOS see a dog with a horn strapped to it head trying to pass as alien and think 'nah carry on with your modern VFX, I'm good after all'.
@@clairewilliams9416 LOL, hey I loved the dog with the horn!
The turbolift thrill rides in the expansive wasted space in a ship was ridiculous. Why would any design waste fuel to carry huge unused spaces in a ship? Answer: they wouldn’t. Whoever came up with those visuals should be fired. Time to rehire the Okudas.
Who cares? It’s looks awesome.
It’s JUST a TV show. Take it for what it is and don’t get so worked up about it.
Get over it.
Good scifi always has one foot in reality. Going too far makes the engineer in me cringe.
Wasn't Discovery totally expandable and reconfigurable inside for it's specific mission
@@ZealoustheEnder absolutely, 👍
I'm not sweating the aesthetics. I'm sure if Gene had access to all the tech we have today, his Star Trek would look a lot like the new Trek. Jussayin
Yup you’d be right, I mean look at how much he changed the Klingon designs once he got the budget and ability to do so. Gene didn’t fuss about aesthetics when things could be changed to look better.
Actually gene had very little to do with the movies and also most things with Star Trek weren’t even his ideas.
He had the tech to make it look lame. he decided better.
@@CaptainPikeachu Discovery's also a lot like he wanted to make trek, but the studio Execs wouldn't let him.
I really REALLY like the reimagined Enterprise. Very elegant.
An elegant starship, for a more civilized age
I love how the Enterprise looked then and now. I grew up with D and E. I just love how the update the shows' CGI and the budget plus the references to the previous trek shows/movies as well as real life.
11:50 yeah… I didn’t understand how the USS Discovery had become a TARDIS somehow….
Actually there is a time traveling federation ship from the 31st. Century (ent: future tense) with this technology.. i imagine the refitted discovery just being upgraded with this to fit all the fancy new tech in the hull
Great video as always, informative and funny. Paul and Adam you are a great team! And how ever spends hours finding all the clips and putting them together needs a medal too
'Go outside and touch some grass'
I'll try to remember and use that in the future hahaha 😂😂😂
“What it is…it’s impossible” you crack me up 😂
Puttin' the flip in flippant n' the cheek in cheeky!
They mentioned the reason for the damage to enterprise was due to the holographic communication system that works on Discovery but not on Enterprise. Pike ordered to rip it all out to get Enterprise back to working order.
My only gripe with new Enterprise(tm) is the pylons for warp nacelles are not perpendicular to hull like TOS, instead they are canted back like movie Enterprise (perhaps not as much, but they are).
Well they'd be made perpendicular during kirk's refit
BEST Adam video yet! I loved the personality coming out more.
Note to self...touch some grass today..
Noticed the doors look very similar to the ones on the Enterprise E. With the TOS look mixed in.
"What is WRONG with some of you?!"
To borrow from Cell in DBZA...
"That threshold is VAST..."
😂😭🤣
The producers just need to clearly state SNW is a reboot, ie different Universe/timeline vs Prime/TOS
They could then do cool crossover specials where they visit the Prime Universe with the exact Cage/TOS look and feel.
If the show does well, they could move on to the 2260's and eventually the 2300's in this new timeline.
While continuing the Prime timeline via Picard and its successors
They could split the universes from the points in Enterprise that history says originally didn't happen
It's the same universe. It's only a visual update
"Go outside and touch some grass" is my absolute favourite line from that rant
yeah that was pretty hilarious. i had to stop the video i was laughing so hard ...
OMG Yes, loved Adam skewering those 25% difference weirdos.
I'm psyched about Strange New Worlds.
Knowing RTD is returning to Doctor Who, this could be our chance to having Both shows doing joint ventures.
Imagine each show being able to do Proper references for each.
Never going to happen.
@@evanhughes7609 I know, but we can all Dream & Hope
I like Star Trek, and I like Doctor Who, but... please. Just no.
@@timhendricks650 lol
@@timhendricks650 Pretty sure they already did this years ago in a comic book series or two.
For strange new worlds, they should make the nacelle pylons straight, give the nacelles their spikes at the front, and give it a lighter hull color.
In the TOS movies the pylons sweep back at an angle because at the base they connect to the antimatter storage just behind the deflector as does the impulse engines straight above that through the neck.
@@MrHominid2U I know, but this is closer to the actual show, where the pylons were straight.
@@matthewleto1180 Yes true. I do like the new design though
One observation that I made is that if the nacelles are actually longer in total length from front to rear, that alone would like to explain the difference in the length on the ship from Discovery and strange new worlds versus the original series. Much as they had changed the nacelles from the original series to the movie era in that case even changing the nacelle struts, it would make sense that they might change the nest cells along the way as necessitated by technology or necessity such as a issue where they might have lost them along the way...
@@MrHominid2U The reason they were sweptback for the Enterprise Refit is because the straight pylons limited the space for the Hanger bay, so the Refit had a larger hanger bay thanks to the new pylons
If this was the ship we got in the jj movies people would have been more responsive to those movies
FUN FACT: Transparent Aluminium has recently been invented.
Gave this a like as soon as I heard the sarcasm aimed at the conspiracy nerds for #9 lol. Brilliant.
Adam!!!! I have missed you so so much!
🖖😎👍Very cool and very well done and very informative indeed 👌...
Absolutely no issues with the ship, costumes or casting. I am worried about the writing.
So they explain how the turboshaft can be in the back, but not where inside the Enterprise (or Discovery) we have room for an entire Monsters Inc/Space Mountain area for the turbolifts to zoom around in.
They don't have one. Given how fast those lifts move, and how long that fight took, the space would have been much bigger than the ship. It was just a silly fight sequence.
Honestly, I was assuming that the absurd size in discovery was some 33rd century addition. We're talking about the same era that has transforming ships and detached nacelles after all, and no one seems to have an explanation for those either.
Adam. Fricking. Clery. 👍👍
More captain Pike and Spock! Yes please! 🤗👍😘
Go outside and touch some grass...leave the house...LOL love the burn!
It's awesome! Let's just love that! All ships are being changed in the real world all the time!
Other then the angled pylons, it is a very nice ship. But to be fair to the original, there is always a way to make it look a bit better but stay the same. ie the millennium falcon.
Dude, in TOS, the whole bridge was twisted just so they could film people entering and exiting over the commander's left shoulder. The lift is right, you're just misunderstanding which direction Kirk's facing in.
Was there at some point, a crossover from Doctor Who and Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy.
This would explain the turbo-lift issue. Improbability drive and TARDIS technology. Food for thought.
I absolutely love Adam’s videos. Fantastic energy mate Thank you so very much mate. Especially during these endless lockdowns here in Australia.
Man this is AWSOME!!!
I like to think that given that the Connie underwent several changes 3 times before the TOS design was fully finalized, and given that this design looks a lot like the NX-01 refit, I would like to think that this version of the Connie Enterprise is a VERY early prototype. Eventually, the design would be smoothed out, the nacelles which made the ship have a longer length were cut down to make them more efficient, and overall the ships frame was massively improved, eventually leading to the TOS original design. That’s my personal concept at least. I’ve always preferred the smoothed hull design of the original. None of those panel lines or aztecing for me. I like my Connie’s smooth and sleek looking. (I do love the discovery: SNW design though. I love its bulky and awkward design.)
It is still different from The Cage Enterprise so it would have had to change backwards as well. Deep Space 9 kept the original design as well as Enterprise. But, I get it. Young minds fresh ideas.
I don’t know about all the windows on the secondary hull?
Didn't Number One say something about the system failure having something to do with the holographic communications system, and she had the Engineer rip it out?
They did explain why the Enterprise had problems. The Holo system caused a feed back on the systems and it had to be removed. Number One told this to Pike on the bridge..
Cannot WAIT for this to premiere already!
I'm surprised you didn't mention the R2-D2 repair droids that it has...never seen those before this Enterprise...
"Go outside cut some grass" why has that got me laughing so much LOL,
I thought they "explained" the catastrophic failures as being somehow tied to the holographic communication system and that's why it gets stripped
Was hoping you'd tell us why Pike's hair suddenly went fully grey.
I really liked the design. From the outside it looks somewhere between the original and the refit.
I would get mad about what they did to the Enterprise (like we all did about the Disco-Klingons) except... I really like this version. In fact, I love it. So much so that I almost wish they would re-redo the exterior effects shots on TOS and update them with this version. Almost...
That is a very interesting idea star trek TOS the “special” special edition
Lol, Okay Mr Lucas. But that could be cool. Unneccessary, but maybe cool.
It can't be worse than the cut-rate VFX that they've vomited all over the current remastered version 🤦♂️ The stuff in Axanar looks significantly better.
I kept a running total... 24.938% difference... is that still good? You are a crack up11 love it
I love the old enterprise
That’s only a little more than 1/4 mile. Actually seems kinda small
awesome hoodie :) i can't wait to see this show. i would have doe the enterprise and bridge a little different more to the classic style but everything looks grate so far :)
I honestly really like this Enterprise.
I just look at it as a storytelling medium that has evolved and I am just happy to have more stories in that Universe no matter if they look like they did in the original or now
Pike's Enterprise bridge was dank and blue. It didn't get colorful until later.
i loved this synopsis, I really like Adam Clery, his energy for Star Trek is great, this was a wonderful Show to start my day. great work Adam.
Leaving Enterprise at scale size next to Discovery would have been fine with me.
I read a book of Kirk's autobiography, where he had to upgrade the enterprise to fool the enemy into thinking starfleet had a base that could do it that far out. It was done by having the parts shipped out to the nearest starbase and just replace certain parts.
Montgomery "I'm From Scotland" Scott called it Aluminum. On screen. In speech. No bonus I in the 23rd century.
That's because James Doohan was a Canadian 😉 Just like Shatner.
Also: Humphry Davy, the man who discovered the stuff, called it Aluminum. Like platinum, or lanthanum. Not all elements have to end in -ium.
@@krugerdave I like to keep the Davy info as a trump card.
Man this is some awesome and amazing information. It puts so much into perspective
Actually, it is exactly the same as Kirk's Enterprise. The cameras and our televisions were just rubbish, so not as much detail was visible. There, I ret-conned reality.
That's how I see it
Seem to remember Gene Roddenberry said something similar back in the day for why Klingons looked different in TMP
@@motionpicture9916 Budgetary reasons held him back during TOS then they made a joke scene about it on DS9 and then it became canon that they did look different by the time they made Enterprise with an episode explaining why. No explanation why disco Klingons look more like Remans.
Adams jacket gets a golden up☝
Before 'The Cage' there was Spock showing emotions like Smiling. I wonder if that will also be in 'Strange new worlds'.
Though I am curious how this show will be I still have the same thought I had when the Kelvin timeline movies first came out. Can the makers PLEASE stop making prequals and just continue with anything after Voyager came home