Sony FX30 + Sigma 18-35 (mc-11 adapter)
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- čas přidán 8. 09. 2024
- The Sigma 18-35 f1.8 has been a go to lens for videographers shooting aps-c & super 35 cameras.
With no mirrorless version of this lens on the horizon your best option is to adapt it to your newer camera. In this video we test the autofocus performance of the Sigma 18-35 adapted to the Sony FX30 by using the Sigma MC-11 adapter. People using the new Sony A6700 can expect similar if not slightly better AF performance with this combo.
We look at continuous focus using face and eye detection in a number of different environments and scenarios. We also test if the minimum focusing distance of the lens when adapted to see if you can expect the same performance here.
MC-11 Adapter Canon EF to E-mount
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List of supported lenses (currently 49)
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00:05 - Sony FX30 & Sigma 18-35 f1.8
00:20 - Sony a6700 auto focus performance
00:34 - 2.8 AF test at f2.8
01:05 - f1.8 AF test
01:30 - Hiking autofocus test
01:50 - Back lit AF Test
02:20 - AF fail?
02:45 - Fixed it?
03:01 - MC-11 adapter supported lenses
03:36 - Firmware updates
03:45 - Indoor low light AF test
04:30 - Close focus test
04:43 - AF noise test built in microphones
05:05 - No mirrorless version available
05:15 - Worth it?
05:29 - Where to buy and supported lenses
Dude! Subscribing simply off the fact that this is the first video that I found that confirmed that this lens and adapter combination allows you to maintain autofocus (I've been on the fence about the 18-35 and now I'm convinced that I'm purchasing it). Also, the video is extremely well done!
Awesome, thank you so much!
It's an awesome lens for s35/apsc cameras - nothing else like it out there
Me too! Funny that that the link to the compatibility list says it does'n work on AF-C and it suggests using manual focus for movies
Why don't you think they'll make a modern update of this lens for mirrorless with a quiet motor? I don't understand why no one has made the attempt actually, especially with so many creator-centric bodies released since it first came out. I'm really hoping that if not Sigma, someone like Viltrox would.
I can only speculate, but there's a couple of reasons as I see it.
With mirrorless cameras being a thing for quite some time now, with both Sony and Panasonic being quite early.
If Sigma could there probably would have been a mirrorless version on the market already.
But perhaps it's not technically possible to cramp down the elements and flange distance to work with a mirrorless camera.
With Canon stopping all third-party RF lenses with AF. The apsc market shrunk to Sony and maybe to some degree Fujifilm. Fujifilm people however typically sticks with fujinon glass. And prefer smaller lenses for the most part.
Nikon, well...
And with new smaller lenses for mirrorless aps-c cameras being the norm, while the 18-35 being somewhat of a beast in comparison. I doubt there would be a big market other than among a minority of the market with simi/professionals shooting s35/aps-c today.
I hope I'm wrong, but things don't look too good.
@@thomasfransson Sigma is already working on a mirrorless DC DN version of the 18-35mm, as the CEO stated in an interview at the start of the year. We'll most likely see it in 2024.
They just have not had time and resources to do it, the 18-35mm is also not that great of a seller like most people think, its expensive and while popular with CZcamsrs, does not mean its popular with everyone.
@@STEPHANREDKOOh man, if they manage to make it a 16-35/1.8 it would be an even bigger banger!
From what I've learned, MC-11 doesn't support PDAF. It's still fast, but not reliably fast. Whereas other 3rd party adapter like Viltrox have one that support PDAF.
Not sure what pdaf is, but the mc-11 adapter is flawless. The downside is that it’s for Sigma lenses or rather it performs flawless with the supported Sigma lenses while other EF lenses can be hit or miss. Other adapters is more of a gamble without any clear directives on what lenses will work or at what level. In my case and in this specific case when it's about adapting the Sigma18-35. The mc-11 is probably the best adapter.
If you're planning on adapting other brands it's always going to be a gamble/ trial and error to find the best adapter for that lens. While some adapters have better reputations than others, it's still hard to give any guarantees. At least from my experience, I've used a lot of them.
Nice, i also have sigma 18-35 with mc11 for my a6400. It does a really good job. However, i can't achieve the output that you have, would you mind sharing your picture profile and what lut you used?
Great combo!
I used Sony's transformation LUTs for the FX6 I believe (I shot in S-Log3 cine )
There's some luts on the "pro section" on Sonys website that has transformation luts compensating for +1 and +2 stops overexposure.
Then I did some basic color corrections for all the green color cast and temperature. On some shots I did some curves adjustments and color wheel adjustments.
Hope this helps
Can you tell if theres any functionality that we loses using a 18-35 vs a native sony lens? AF modes, video funcionalities or anythings else?
In terms of AF it performs like a native lens pretty much. The only thing I can think of and this is not just the 18-35 but all third-party lenses, they're not supported with the focus breathing compensation. That feature is only works with some Sony lenses.
Then again not all third-party lenses suffer from heavy focus breathing.
thanks a lot for the video
can i use my canon 50mm 1.4 with this adapter anf FX30 and have the auto focus for video
From my understanding, it's mainly Sigma lenses that's supported. There's is a list of officially supported lenses. I believe I left a link to it in the description.
On other lenses it's more of a gamble.
If wish I had that lens so I could test it for you.
I have some canon lenses and tested it, only works in photo mode, in video it doesn't have continuous AF but the rest of the features of the lens works. for example you can still control aperture
Please Sigma please release a E mount 18-35 F1.8 lens
That would be great, but it would probably been out on the market already if they wanted it out there.
Thank you for your great review sir. I have this sigma lens using nikon5600 but i am planning to buy new camera body which will be good can you please suggest me .
Such a great lens!
Are you planning on staying with Nikon and aps-c?
I've used this lens on my Canon, Fujifilm and now Sony. It definitely holds up still.
Will this lens be available specifically for e mount?
The lens was released in 2013, if there would be a mirrorless version of it it would have been available by now. Sigma released the much smaller 18-50 f2.8 and the f1.4 primes.
Hey Thomas, could you tell me your AF settings on the FX30 for this lens? Responsiveness can be a bit sticky sometimes and I have been playing with the tracking/shift speed and sens but interested in what you were using here.
Sure thing!
I only did a quick test upon arrival and landed on the following:
Transition Speed: 4
Subject Shift Sensitivity: 5
That's what I've been using ever since. Can probably be improved on, but have been pleased with the results for the types of things I normally shoot.
Hey mr may i ask? What type the sigma is like is it nikon or canon version? And are there any different result from both version? Thanks!
Hi, yes it's the Canon ef version. I don't think there's a great adapter for the Nikon mount sadly. But lots and lots of options for adapting EF glass to E mount. So if you’re thinking about adapting lenses, I would recommend going with EF mount.
Your colours so nice. What settings did you use and did you colour grade
Thank you, it was shot in S-log3 and converted to 709 with a Sony lut from their Pro video site.
@@thomasfransson also was it internal recording in highest format or external RAW recording?
Internal xavc si if I recall correctly
I’m a novice. So if I want to use this lens on my Sony A6700 I need an adapter correct?
Yes, I'm not too sure about what adapters are available for the nikon mount version. But the best one for Canon ef mount is by far the Sigma mc-11
Nice review... can you please test the ibis with thiis lens?
Thank you, sure I can probably incorporate that into a video. Any particular tests on the ibis you would like to see?
@@thomasfransson just some basic movements, not walking.
Got it!
does the sigma 18-35 equals to 27-50ish mm in fx30 or is it 18-35 only?
Yep, there's the 1.5x crop factor for the super 35 sensor so 27-50 full frame equiv.
Does the sigma 18-35mm equals to 27-50mm in FX3 ?
No, its still an 18-35mm lens.
The image circle is just smaller as it's an aps-c lens so you'll have vignetting from 18mm up to about 22-24mm on a full frame sensor.
Using the adaptor can you shoot 4k 60fps?
Yes, that's 80% of what I shoot
Do you know if they make a Nikon to e mount?
I haven't seen one, I think "monster adapter" is what I've been seeing/hearing when it comes to adapting Nikon lenses. But I'm not well versed in nikon I'm afraid.
Hey I compared the wideness of my 18-35 (with mc-11) with my basic 18-135 mm and it has a crop both on my fx30 and my a6400
Is that a hardware thing, nobody noticed or do i have a software problem? Updating the firmware on mc-11 for example?
The 18-135 might have a slightly wider angle of view. It can vary between lens models.
If you would compare two 24-70mm lenses from different manufacturers they would also most likely be slightly different on the wide and tight end due to varying angle of view.
In the case of the Sigma 18-35 it might be a trade off in order to keep the light gathered properties constant throughout the entire zoom range.
For the IBIS, I need to set the focal lenght manualy? or the mc11 talk to the camera?
I tried both but didn't notice any difference on this wide angle zoom. There's lens data transmission over the adapter, so I'd say that you don't have to.
This may not be the case with none supported lenses though.
@@thomasfransson thanks 😊
My pleasure
@@thomasfranssondid you ever test this? I have active stabilization enable but can’t get it to work with the Mc-11 and the sigma 18-35 at all
Ibis works on my X-T4
What nd filter do you recommend for that lens?
I'm using the Cokin Nuances 2-400 (82mm)
But I can also recommend Freewell and NiSi True color vnd's