Haters Are Mad That Nikola Jokic Won MVP (Again)

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  • @Darty555
    @Darty555 Před 2 lety +1260

    Jokic for the past two years has been arguably the best passer in the game, one of the best mid range shooters in the game, the most efficient big man in the game all while carrying a Nuggets team without key players to a winning record and a playoff spot. He is one of the most dynamic and efficient offensive weapons the league has EVER seen and while it's perfectly fine to think Embiid or even Giannis deserved it over him; the members of the NBA community/media who are claiming this win to be undeserved are simply ridiculous and completely incorrect

    • @thetruth4654
      @thetruth4654 Před 2 lety +48

      I do think that Giannis is the only player in the league, that has a good case for it over Jokic.
      Embiid is not playing enough games to deserve the award in my opinion.

    • @shadow_realm47
      @shadow_realm47 Před 2 lety +35

      @@thetruth4654 yup, Embid gets mid results with a mid team. Giannis gets great results with a good team ( you might even say the Bucks starting 5 are really really good, atleast defensively).
      Jokic got mid results with a guaranteed lottery team. It's just an opinion though.
      if you put Giannis on the Nuggs instead of Jokic, they become a play in team, but if you put Embid on the Nuggs they are not in the playoffs.
      With Jokic on the Bucks they remain a top contender, Jokic on the 76ers, they get better. Even the advanced stats don't do Jokic justice, because his ability to make hockey assists and the right play almost every time is tremendous.

    • @tooforwon241
      @tooforwon241  Před 2 lety +16

      Very well said! Here's a pin of honor 📌

    • @demonkingbadger6689
      @demonkingbadger6689 Před 2 lety +8

      Jokic has been pulling vintage 76er Wilt numbers in passing.

    • @demonkingbadger6689
      @demonkingbadger6689 Před 2 lety +1

      @@thetruth4654 yeah, embiid is just the 3rd guy for me.

  • @BonsuTheTiger
    @BonsuTheTiger Před 2 lety +804

    I’m just happy Nikola Jokić won the MVP and the haters are eating their words.

    • @tooforwon241
      @tooforwon241  Před 2 lety +24

      Haters are mad man! I know sensible fans can put their feelings aside. But I really just wanted to trigger the haters 🤣

    • @powerlocks
      @powerlocks Před 2 lety +3

      yeah, they will eat their words when Jokic win in the finals this year! right?

    • @BestBird_1
      @BestBird_1 Před 2 lety +8

      @@powerlocks hows embid doing now?☠ only booker and Giannis are left

    • @FabricioFF66
      @FabricioFF66 Před 2 lety +1

      Perfect!!

    • @georgereynolds2276
      @georgereynolds2276 Před 2 lety +9

      @@powerlocks wake up dude. It's a regular season award. By-the-way embiid and Giannis are not in the finals either.

  • @JonMichaelDeShazer
    @JonMichaelDeShazer Před 2 lety +838

    I think the NBA is struggling with an identity crisis having guys like Jokic, Luka, Embiid and Giannis being the future face of the NBA because they are international players leading an American league. They've had decades of Magic, Michael, Kobe and LeBron. The narrative is "We're the United States, we produce the best athletes in the world." Not anymore.

    • @tooforwon241
      @tooforwon241  Před 2 lety +123

      Very plausible. This may be the case. They can't wrap their heads around the fact that the best players are from outside of the United States. Wembenyama is another insane prospect that has GOAT potential with his height, wingspan and the way he plays

    • @stpbasss3773
      @stpbasss3773 Před 2 lety +36

      They're a Chinese league

    • @Luigiman_95
      @Luigiman_95 Před 2 lety +45

      @@tooforwon241 you might have a interesting video in your hand.
      When Dirk and Giannis are the only EU players in the top 75, tons of people still think that Klay or even Vince Carter should've been in instead of Giannis.
      US biased is at a all time high.

    • @abel_underwater
      @abel_underwater Před 2 lety +47

      @@tooforwon241 no not plausible, it’s American voters voting for international players. If that narrative had any merit, it would’ve went to American players ever year. Don’t entertain that nonsense man, stop it. We love seeing the game expand because it was lonely being at the top for so damn long, now that the game has international faces, it’s become immensely more exciting.

    • @abel_underwater
      @abel_underwater Před 2 lety +10

      @@Luigiman_95 Bro, are you seriously making that false statement when literally the vast majority of great players come from the US-__- also read my above comment about how AMERICAN voters are the ones voting for the international players, forget what some fans are saying, because it’s factually false. Not to mention the million of American fans from places like Dallas, Milwaukee, Philly, Denver who love their international superstars. How are you going to ignore that fact? Also just look at the Olympic record, where the US has been the dominant country for nearly a century. Which explains why most players in the top 75 come from there-because they’ve produced the top talent for that long! Stop it

  • @kevinandrewsphoto
    @kevinandrewsphoto Před 2 lety +674

    Warriors fan. I gotta be honest, The more and more I hear all these ex NBA players or broadcasters complain, it makes it seem like they didn’t wanna give it to Jokic cus he’s white, slow and looks like a plumber. Where as Embiid is a physical specimen who is flashy, exciting and looks like a star.
    It’s not like you can point to specifics of Embiid for why he outplayed Jokic. The Joker dominated every category like we’ve never seen. Played every game for a much worse team. Embiid missed games like always, isn’t nearly the factor with playmaking and has better teammates.
    Just seems like they didn’t wanna give the award to the chubby white guy.

    • @tooforwon241
      @tooforwon241  Před 2 lety +105

      I can't lie. It really does look like that's the case. I didn't want to say it, so I hinted at it towards the end to address these claims. Out of frustration, it's something that I would agree with. Because I'm getting very concerned that the xenophonia we're seeing by some is more widespread than initially thought

    • @saula8948
      @saula8948 Před 2 lety +103

      @@tooforwon241 That is 100 % the case , if Jokic were American and he were black with a physique like Embiid despite playing the exact same and doing the same with the same team the narrative would have been different and we all know it .

    • @tropicanajuice2438
      @tropicanajuice2438 Před 2 lety +4

      I 100% 👍 agree!

    • @lukesmith9692
      @lukesmith9692 Před 2 lety

      He's European not a white American. If he was a white American, he would of been attacked already

    • @divinitygaming8673
      @divinitygaming8673 Před 2 lety +40

      Since when is Embiid a "physical specimen" ? Lmao. Dude's hurt almost every other day.

  • @isaaklevin7875
    @isaaklevin7875 Před 2 lety +178

    Jokic: "Brother, I just don't care".

  • @OldAfrobeats
    @OldAfrobeats Před 2 lety +413

    Also I agree that they need to announce the MVP quicker

    • @tooforwon241
      @tooforwon241  Před 2 lety +30

      Yes that was a great point by Joy. It would definitely make it more palatable for anyone not wanting Jokic to win it. But it wouldn't change that there is this sentiment felt by a lot of pundits and fans

    • @demonkingbadger6689
      @demonkingbadger6689 Před 2 lety +7

      To be honest, me being a baseball fan first and foremost, the argument of him being too low a seed is hilarious, when i remember Cal Ripken winning one on a last place season.
      Not that baseball player and basketball player impact is comparable per se. Just that it kind of makes look at it a little different.

    • @vanhattfield8292
      @vanhattfield8292 Před 2 lety +2

      Personally I think it should be announced after the Finals, because it is something that can affect a player emotionally and can result in a let down in play. I'm sure there are people who would say that these are professionals and shouldn't be affected by something like this but you take 5 hardworking professionals in any field and give 1 of them an award or promotion and the 4 who were not selected are going to have a decrease in their performance immediately following the announcement. They will get over it in short time, but that slight dip can be all it takes to briefly affect performance and can result iin a loss that could lead to being knocked out of the playoffs. I think it is best to leave all of those things until the finals are complete.

    • @demonkingbadger6689
      @demonkingbadger6689 Před 2 lety

      @@vanhattfield8292 promotion, i can understand, award not so much. But, i personally never cared for awards, much.

    • @justsomedudewithnoneck8329
      @justsomedudewithnoneck8329 Před 2 lety +1

      @@vanhattfield8292 but then the 4 who didn’t get be stepping up

  • @JakeKoenig
    @JakeKoenig Před rokem +7

    Fast-forward to May 2023, and Jokic is four wins from a championship and proved he deserved those MVPs and was robbed of a 3rd MVP.

  • @gazibengazi
    @gazibengazi Před 2 lety +527

    Those who say that Jokić did not pass the "eye test", just prove that they have never watched the Nuggets game.

    • @applebutter4036
      @applebutter4036 Před 2 lety +28

      Or that they need a new prescription.

    • @dookiepringles9674
      @dookiepringles9674 Před 2 lety +26

      By eye test they mean color test

    • @orangehair2518
      @orangehair2518 Před 2 lety +8

      The eye test means he should not win due to this race.

    • @CD-pj5qi
      @CD-pj5qi Před 2 lety +5

      @@dookiepringles9674 y’all really think it’s a race thing? Nba loves white players look at luka

    • @CD-pj5qi
      @CD-pj5qi Před 2 lety

      @Beaverish Buck Teeth these guys giving terrible options isn’t about race lol thats the point they’ve been giving terrible opinions for years nothing to do with race, bunch of terrible takes on black players but it’s not race the issue is they don’t like completely foreign players

  • @lucasmelee
    @lucasmelee Před 2 lety +221

    Richard Jefferson somehow managed to be an even worse desk analyst than he was a role player for the Cavs

    • @tooforwon241
      @tooforwon241  Před 2 lety +14

      Bro that last part hurt to watch. It's like I appreciate the honesty. But doesn't he see the problem with that statement

    • @demonkingbadger6689
      @demonkingbadger6689 Před 2 lety +15

      Yeesh, didnt Jefferson bad mouth Tim Duncan as a teammate a year ago or so. I mean like the one guy, nobody has talked shit about.😪

    • @stpbasss3773
      @stpbasss3773 Před 2 lety +5

      He's so bad. Also does anyone else think he might be gay? I've always thought that about him for some reason 😂.

    • @FirefighterBobby
      @FirefighterBobby Před 2 lety +2

      @@stpbasss3773 'cause he is. Nothing bad about it tho'. The thing that's bad is that he's been jelaous of Jokic from the scratch, taliking about how players shouldn't sit with their coatch on the bus and what not. Whoever doesn't like Jokara doesn't like basketball in it's purest form, and is as arrogant as they come.

    • @serbonkers4130
      @serbonkers4130 Před 2 lety +3

      @@stpbasss3773 there was a rumor before.. i think while he was still with the nets. Turns out it was the other nets player.

  • @HenryvanElch
    @HenryvanElch Před 2 lety +183

    Shaq asking the question: " Why do 18 missed games even matter?" It just shows he doesn't understand what value means.

    • @Solodolo84
      @Solodolo84 Před 2 lety +45

      The best ability is availability 🍻

    • @HenryvanElch
      @HenryvanElch Před 2 lety +43

      @@Solodolo84 Like I love Shaq, but it's moments like these you realize, he do be dumb. 😂

    • @Solodolo84
      @Solodolo84 Před 2 lety +8

      @@HenryvanElch exactly, this is the same dude that didn't wanna train and go for a 4th ring because he got content and lazy. But before he got to LA, the execs told him up front that Kobe was gonna lead the way and he got salty 😂. Stay wavy brotha 🍻

    • @jaredguy9234
      @jaredguy9234 Před 2 lety +18

      Shaq should be on his own shaqin a fool for that take

    • @ryanvdonk87
      @ryanvdonk87 Před 2 lety +13

      shaq just doesn't get how fragile embiid is...joel has missed 309 games in 8 seasons, already more than the 303 shaq missed in his 19 seasons.

  • @pamoon_
    @pamoon_ Před 2 lety +215

    I will admit the league needs to announce the MVP as soon as the regular season ends.
    But Nikola Jokic plays like a point guard Tim Duncan. And of course he’s European, isn’t a physical specimen and plays for a rather mid level market in Denver.
    Of course the media was going to hate on him.

    • @tooforwon241
      @tooforwon241  Před 2 lety +13

      Exactly! Well said. This was how things were inevitably going to play when we seen the flack Jokic got last year & earlier in this season

    • @demonkingbadger6689
      @demonkingbadger6689 Před 2 lety +5

      Well, i been calling him modern day wilt as a 76er. Wilt was being a point center rhose years, and lead the league in assists. Had 8.6 apg one of those years, and the 60s were much more stingy in handing out asts. So, i could see him having a triple-double by today's standards in asts.
      Jokic has been doing something we really havent seen in 50 years. (Barring maybe toung bill walton is his rare healthy moments.

    • @futurehofer1564
      @futurehofer1564 Před 2 lety

      *small market

    • @playforkeeps3536
      @playforkeeps3536 Před 2 lety +3

      Jokic is a 7 Foot Larry Bird

    • @Djordjevicc
      @Djordjevicc Před 2 lety +2

      @@playforkeeps3536 if he adds Larry's trash talking we're in for an even bigger treat than we already are.

  • @HowardMoon56
    @HowardMoon56 Před 2 lety +151

    Bro, when you look all these reactions, except for Nick Wright, every black analalyst is against Jokić winning the MVP. Not wanna pull the race card, but that is the fact.
    Also why is Kendrick Perkins allowed to express an opinion about basketball? He averaged 1 tech, and 5 fouls in 3 min on the court, and he's like a basketball expert?

    • @aawharver4948
      @aawharver4948 Před 2 lety +7

      Nick wright got a black wife 😉😉

    • @HowardMoon56
      @HowardMoon56 Před 2 lety +15

      @@aawharver4948 Oh so that explains everything 😄😄😄

    • @RandallBalls
      @RandallBalls Před 2 lety

      Nick Wright is not white either. He is a bagel person, and they hate white people more than most people

    • @RandallBalls
      @RandallBalls Před 2 lety

      @@HowardMoon56 Nick Wright is a j........e.......w. (CZcams censors that word, they dont like us pointing them out). They hate white people more than anyone, Theyre the ones starting this trend of hating whites being ok

    • @nick0875
      @nick0875 Před 2 lety +2

      That is because ESPN is desperate. They got Pat Bev of all players acting like he's one of the top guards in the league. Kendrick Perkins is really only correct when he is hyping up the Miami Heat.

  • @gaspi91
    @gaspi91 Před 2 lety +80

    Jokić delivered in the playoffs again though. He did everything he could against GSW.

    • @tooforwon241
      @tooforwon241  Před 2 lety +1

      True. I don't remember saying he didn't, but I was wrong to say that if I did

    • @Gdfsandoz
      @Gdfsandoz Před 2 lety +15

      Not his fault he's the best player on the court and the next 5 best players all came from the opposite team. Dude could not be stopped against the warriors especially games 3-5.

    • @KCM316
      @KCM316 Před 2 lety +2

      If you look at it when it comes to the playoffs Jokic has made if further than Joel he’s at least has made it to a wcf Joel hasn’t made,it past the 2nd round I know playoffs don’t matter but people act like Joel won a championship the past 2 years

  • @mishagelenava2962
    @mishagelenava2962 Před 2 lety +138

    It's funnier now that the other MVP candidates are also eliminated from the playoffs and they didn't last much longer than Jokic.

    • @Djordjevicc
      @Djordjevicc Před 2 lety +15

      Yup and GSW is a hell of a lot tougher to face than the Hawks and Raptors. He still averaged insane numbers.

    • @leandronc
      @leandronc Před 2 lety +26

      They were eliminated with much better teams to back them up, too. If we're going to evaluate Playoffs performance, Luka Doncic would be a better candidate than Embiid and Giannis at this point.

    • @mishagelenava2962
      @mishagelenava2962 Před 2 lety +1

      @@leandronc yeah, Luka is the playoff MVP so far.

    • @fluffy6229
      @fluffy6229 Před 2 lety +4

      @@leandronc oh so not Giannis. So not mister 44 20 and 8. Numbers not seen since prime shaq. Giannis did everything in his power. That celtics team is deadly and he carried his team to a game 7. Giannis is the playoff mvp and he’s the best player in the world No doubt

    • @SilencedButNotForgotten
      @SilencedButNotForgotten Před 2 lety

      Yeah, loving all the people on Twitter eating their words, lmfao

  • @hitomukawakami7124
    @hitomukawakami7124 Před 2 lety +187

    I was reluctant to accept that Jokic’s race has anything to do w the disgruntlement but they kept comparing him to Steve Nash 😂😂😂

    • @antisocialantihero3464
      @antisocialantihero3464 Před 2 lety +63

      Just wait til it goes from him to luka 5 years in a row lol

    • @RandallBalls
      @RandallBalls Před 2 lety

      Black Americans have been less and less shy about showing their racism since it has started becoming acceptable to hate white people openly in our own country

    • @pickleman40
      @pickleman40 Před 2 lety +56

      He's continuing the legacy of Nash and Bird of making racist nba players seethe

    • @savagetv6460
      @savagetv6460 Před rokem

      @@pickleman40 the nba are a bunch of racist commies.

    • @deebofleebo6427
      @deebofleebo6427 Před rokem +3

      Dude Steve Nash definitely did not deserve at least 1 of those MVP awards

  • @ME-th9yo
    @ME-th9yo Před 2 lety +50

    very clear why they hating and why they keep talking about nash

    • @tooforwon241
      @tooforwon241  Před 2 lety +10

      A lot of people have been saying this. The more they hate on him, the more I'm starting to agree with you guys

    • @steveclapper5424
      @steveclapper5424 Před 2 lety

      Yep, racism is a rainbow of stupid.

  • @victorf6672
    @victorf6672 Před 2 lety +56

    "The sixers, who are a good team"
    That's the point, they are a good team and only won 3 more games than the dog shit nuggets.

    • @tooforwon241
      @tooforwon241  Před 2 lety +10

      Guess what? The Nuggets were a good team this season too. And that's mostly due to Jokic's impact. Even the Sixers would've lost to the Wesr Champs Warriors in the first round

  • @truthcrusader4521
    @truthcrusader4521 Před 2 lety +155

    They be hating on him because he is the MVP in a black dominated sport. Racism is a two way street. A player should not be considered for MVP if he is average during the regular season but steps it up post season. Play like you want MVP all season and earn your money. Even great players have to have a decent team to make it far into the playoffs. Staying healthy and playing all or most of your games has to taken into consideration for MVP.

    • @slojo404
      @slojo404 Před 2 lety +11

      Don’t got shit to do with it

    • @TinaPlayzAdoptMe
      @TinaPlayzAdoptMe Před 2 lety +4

      Well the next will be Luka one more European.

    • @litteraltrash3030
      @litteraltrash3030 Před 2 lety +42

      @@slojo404 it for sure does, I’m saying this as a black man. It’s no coincidence that back to back mvps people complain about are both white

    • @truthcrusader4521
      @truthcrusader4521 Před 2 lety +3

      @@slojo404 Then what's the problem? The other runner up is a great player but he missed allot of games with an injury. That takes a player out of the MVP mix.

    • @cidiose
      @cidiose Před 2 lety +5

      Giannis also receives more backlash than he should. It's the fact that neither he or Jokic are American "formed" players.

  • @lukacalov1988
    @lukacalov1988 Před 2 lety +43

    Pure hate
    I bet ya if he was from US and black and playin in a big market
    They d hype him up like he was Jordan

  • @orangehair2518
    @orangehair2518 Před 2 lety +89

    Stephen Jackson-"He is not a back to back MVP just like Steve Nash was not a back to back MVP. " Let's see, what do Steve Nash and Jokic have in common? How are those players different than most other NBA players? It's obvious why they don't think he should win.

    • @LowenKoniig
      @LowenKoniig Před 2 lety +45

      Idk why it’s always about race. It like they can’t accept the fact that a white person is good at basketball. Idk why they think only a black guy should always win MVP in the NBA. Imagine if it was reversed.

    • @emptyfridge
      @emptyfridge Před 2 lety +3

      Exactly

    • @Slickgary007
      @Slickgary007 Před 2 lety

      It’s cause Stephen Jackson is a racist asshole and has said anti-semitic things on several occasions

    • @Cheif_Espada
      @Cheif_Espada Před rokem +5

      I can accept Jocic as a 2time MVP. But Nash was BS

    • @sebastiancovac7879
      @sebastiancovac7879 Před rokem +11

      @@Cheif_Espada he joined a 29 wins team and led them to the best record in the league (62 wins). in the games he didnt play (7) the team was 2-5. the year after they lost their best scorer (amare) and still won 54 games and had 3rd best record in the west. its obvious he was the glue that was holding everything together on that team.

  • @greenbeech3055
    @greenbeech3055 Před 2 lety +28

    Jokic and Doncic two best players in NBA. Slavs dominate.

    • @mihailobogutovic7
      @mihailobogutovic7 Před 2 lety +3

      Agree but don't forget Giannis

    • @Slickgary007
      @Slickgary007 Před 2 lety +1

      I think a lot of the hate from the media is because most of the top players in the league now are not from the USA like 4 of the top five players are international players in luka, jokic, Giannis, and emiid

  • @Elshantonio
    @Elshantonio Před 2 lety +162

    Dude nearly averaged a triple double as a center and carried his franchise to the postseason for the second year in a row, literally breaking records in the process. This is where the conversation should stop! But it doesn't cos he's a humble white dude from a country most Americans wouldn't be able to pinpoint on a world map, who doesn't use his Twitter and Instagram accounts to broadcast videos from clubs and hit on singers and actresses and instead mumbles his interviews disinterestedly from a horse stable in his small hometown in Serbia. That's what they mean when they say "not marketable enough". A goofy European kid that barely even made it to the NBA ending up showing Americans how it's done while not caring about the whole media and entertainment circus the league has turned into is not easy to swallow for these so-called "analysts".

    • @ShittyCut
      @ShittyCut Před 2 lety +5

      Well said 🤘nailed it right on the head!

    • @RandallBalls
      @RandallBalls Před 2 lety

      His country is irrelevant. It's neds at "because he is white"

    • @ShittyCut
      @ShittyCut Před 2 lety

      @@RandallBalls you think he won it because he's white? You didn't type your comment very well, hard to follow what you're saying

    • @cloudstrife6911
      @cloudstrife6911 Před 2 lety +3

      That's the thing about media, athletes and America's way of thinking in general. If you don't make someone money what worth are you? God I can't wait for this shithole to collapse so the next one can rise like it always does

    • @klvrkhi2294
      @klvrkhi2294 Před rokem

      First part was facts. Now you just getting cornier and cornier

  • @okramman
    @okramman Před 2 lety +61

    It's funny how the only ones hating are the "casual" analysts that only watch maybe 1 or 2 TNT Nuggets games a year. The eye-test is that you don't watch him play lmao. It's hilarious, really.

  • @MilanNikolic96
    @MilanNikolic96 Před 2 lety +250

    3 points less than Embiid, but 5 assists more, meaning that Jokic produced/contributed to at least 10 points through those assists, that tips the numbers to his favor. Not to mention, better FG%, less points from the free point line, MEANING he scored more from play, 2 more rebounds, played more games- consistency. Then people cried how hes out of the playoffs, well Embiids out too, what now?

    • @kybroome
      @kybroome Před 2 lety +39

      add to that on a much lower usage rate I believe 32% compared to 37% just shows that he is more efficient

    • @bk818
      @bk818 Před 2 lety

      Not to mention, better FG%

    • @nick0875
      @nick0875 Před 2 lety +12

      Jokic got knocked out of the playoffs but that series was basically him against the Warriors since the Nuggets are injured. Michael Jordan got repeatedly sent home early before the Bulls got good pieces around him.

    • @gamble777888
      @gamble777888 Před 2 lety +5

      His advanced defensive metrics smoke Embiid's too. Statistically any way you slice it Jokic was easily the MVP. Second best player on that Nugs team is Aaron freaking Gordon.

    • @bk818
      @bk818 Před 2 lety +1

      @@gamble777888
      At Embiid, the ball is rarely seen. Premal looks around even though he is waxing and will follow the development of the game, but he is just waiting to get the ball un hit. He is not capable of taking over the organization of attacks or defenses on his own, at least according to what he has shown. But he is a good shooter. Jokic is easily the MVP. Because the first, unlike Emboldj, played all 58 games, playing 18 less, so there is no comparison already in this segment. Jokič is all in one, as a multipractitioner, but he is also an excellent organizer and has a much bigger overview of what is happening in the game.

  • @claymoreking9660
    @claymoreking9660 Před 2 lety +1103

    If Joker was Black he wouldn’t be getting this hate

    • @tooforwon241
      @tooforwon241  Před 2 lety +202

      I get the frustrations, but you have to understand that this argument doesn't hold water when you have Luka being much more embraced by NBA fans and media. Aside from the Montrezl Harrell moment in the bubble, he's been a fan favorite for so many people

    • @omarluevano5257
      @omarluevano5257 Před 2 lety +133

      @@tooforwon241 Fact's but Claymore is speaking the truth. People just don't accept it

    • @reaper_is_unavailable
      @reaper_is_unavailable Před 2 lety +52

      I agree somewhat, but it also took Duncan most of his career to get the recognition. Small Market + Non-flashy makes up most of the disrepect. Jokic, kinda similar to Giannis, does not embrace the kind of flashy, highlight-centric, high profile culture that the nba has become which means people like the media can't really get much non-basketball material (in particular but not exclusively, drama) so they try to disrespect him enough that he can "fade out" of relevance, which isn't working.

    • @realchevalierhd3071
      @realchevalierhd3071 Před 2 lety +41

      ACTUAL. they kept making the steve nash comparison over and over. they when the white man rises above

    • @rkabcdefg
      @rkabcdefg Před 2 lety +22

      @@tooforwon241 I'm not denying his skills or anything but pretty people like Luka tends to be more likeable compared to Nikola who looks like a your regular neighbor joe.

  • @makrides22
    @makrides22 Před 2 lety +14

    The NBA MVP award should have gone to a human being from the planet earth.
    Nikola Jokic is from another planet.

  • @tubecrazy3000
    @tubecrazy3000 Před 2 lety +92

    He absolutely dominated this year. He had one of the greatest seasons OF ALL TIME.

    • @zaedynharper2866
      @zaedynharper2866 Před rokem +2

      w

    • @deebofleebo6427
      @deebofleebo6427 Před rokem +2

      Fun fact: Hakeem Olajuwon had a minimum of 4 seasons better than this "historic" season, and didnt win MVP or DPOY, including back to back seasons of 2,034p, 1,105r(led the NBA) 213s(NBA record for centers), 287b, then the next season 1,995p, 1,149r(led NBA), 234a, 174s, 376b(led NBA)! The league is so trash now, that Jokic is the MVP twice, when basketball gods like Olajuwon only had 1! Oh well, congrats I guess

    • @basilcarpenterjr1592
      @basilcarpenterjr1592 Před rokem

      @@deebofleebo6427 don't watch the league then hater

  • @xy-fb8jo
    @xy-fb8jo Před 2 lety +70

    The fact that people like Stephen A have a vote is INSANE

    • @Guccimane0713
      @Guccimane0713 Před rokem

      Who should vote?

    • @lilrocketman2552
      @lilrocketman2552 Před rokem +10

      @@Guccimane0713 People who closely watch basketball and don’t have a public platform. Aka completely anonymous

    • @Guccimane0713
      @Guccimane0713 Před rokem +6

      @@lilrocketman2552 the only people that should vote is the coaches owners and executives player vote won't work and putting that in our hands is going to be unfair to a certain degree

    • @lilrocketman2552
      @lilrocketman2552 Před rokem +1

      @@Guccimane0713 Never thought of that. Your idea is better

    • @chanty2192
      @chanty2192 Před rokem

      @@Guccimane0713 it should be excluded to retired, former top players. I can't even imagine the narcissism that would be needed to cast a vote for MVP in a league I've never even laced up for.

  • @DeeEyDeeOu
    @DeeEyDeeOu Před 2 lety +26

    Regular season award = playoffs irrelevant
    Most Valuable Player = lead his team in every category, top 10 ten in the league in every category, historic season, most double doubles, most triple doubles
    Plays every game, changed center position 4 ever, plays both ends, keeps improving every year....I mean dang!

  • @mattreynolds612
    @mattreynolds612 Před 2 lety +7

    If folks talked about a black man the way they do Joker, there would be trouble. They hate him for something that isn't related to basketball. It's so obvious. 🙄

    • @sub-zero7243
      @sub-zero7243 Před 2 lety +2

      You must been living under a rock LeBron gets the most critical analysis ever that jokic will never get while he will play in the NBA

    • @RandallBalls
      @RandallBalls Před 2 lety +2

      @@sub-zero7243 Lebron gets overwhelmingly positive coverage, and only gets negative reactions because it gets CLICKS (Skip Bayless). Jokic, gets almost no coverage, and the coverage he does get is overwhelmingly "meh", with a dash of hatred and venom

    • @sub-zero7243
      @sub-zero7243 Před 2 lety

      @@RandallBalls joker has not won anything to get coverage but on LeBron they been dissing him before he got into the NBA and people still bring up 2011 like it happened yesterday and call him a stat padder jokic etc doesn't called a stat padder and gets no critical analysis for Losing after winning back to back mvps

    • @mattreynolds612
      @mattreynolds612 Před 2 lety

      @@sub-zero7243 I agree with Randall!!!

    • @sub-zero7243
      @sub-zero7243 Před 2 lety

      @@mattreynolds612 of course you agree with him your a baised jokic fan LeBron gets the most critical analysis Bron has the most game winning shots in the playoffs and people still say he not clutch if that not delusional and hate I don't know what is smh and Bron has four titles but how people talk down on him you will think he won nothing like jokic

  • @1RadicalDreamer
    @1RadicalDreamer Před 2 lety +8

    Jokic could care less about winning the award. Embiid is desperate to win it and that’s what makes this even funnier! 😂

  • @bocajrs7628
    @bocajrs7628 Před 2 lety +16

    The same Kendrick Perkins who said Lakers would win 70 games.

  • @Mrballerize
    @Mrballerize Před 2 lety +18

    Until Jokic wins a championship; he'll always be viewed as the Center version of Steve Nash.

    • @tooforwon241
      @tooforwon241  Před 2 lety +4

      Unfortunately you're right! A lot of people know damn well Nash deserved those 2 MVPs, but guys like Shaq are still bitter. It's sad

    • @kemlloyd5192
      @kemlloyd5192 Před 2 lety

      It’s not even winning the chip but making a finals appearance.
      His awards will be viewed with an asterisk if nuggets don’t help him get to the big stage.
      If I’m not mistaken Nash and Derrick rose only mvps never to make finals.

    • @thezerowulf2046
      @thezerowulf2046 Před 2 lety

      Guessing Steve Nash was also white huh?

    • @RandallBalls
      @RandallBalls Před 2 lety

      @@thezerowulf2046 Yeah, the people above dont realize this comment was a diss

  • @jojocottrell0487
    @jojocottrell0487 Před 2 lety +23

    Sixers would’ve had a first round exit too if they played the warriors, the haters who changed their point to “who’s in the playoffs”.. well embiid only lasted a couple more days

    • @sdb7092
      @sdb7092 Před 2 lety +3

      Hell! had they faced the Celtics in the first round they would have been out lol.

  • @mitchellproductions9865
    @mitchellproductions9865 Před rokem +6

    Jokic is so entertaining as a Nuggets fan. I watched almost all of our games this year and sometimes I'll just burst out laughing cuz jokic makes a ridiculous pass so effortlessly, or he just goes right at you and puts the ball in the hoop. It looks so easy for him he is really so amazing.

    • @drzed6647
      @drzed6647 Před rokem

      I hear you bro. I laugh too all the time when I see Jokic. I jump out of my chair, and just rip off greats laughs of joy - surprise and deep appreciation of what we, humans, are capable.

  • @Borkee92
    @Borkee92 Před 2 lety +16

    F the haters. Beautiful basketball won! Thank you, NBA for not letting the media pressure you. GO JOKER!

    • @tooforwon241
      @tooforwon241  Před 2 lety +3

      Crazy that so many voted Jokic in first place, but so many TV pundits voted Embiid. These people don't pay attention

  • @kurosan0079
    @kurosan0079 Před 2 lety +50

    Just look at that Denver roster without Jokic. That team could've been be no.30 without him. To be the guy to drag that team to the playoffs, deserves MVP 100%.

    • @aka1721
      @aka1721 Před 2 lety +8

      Everyone on that roster had negative impact in advanced stats except for Jokic lmao.

    • @deebofleebo6427
      @deebofleebo6427 Před rokem

      He didn't carry schit, he's also playing the role they gave him

    • @gwenzhead566
      @gwenzhead566 Před rokem

      @@deebofleebo6427 i know this is an old comment but jokic dragged this nuggets team kicking and screaming and trying to lose the whole time to the 6th seed

  • @MrAwesomeMatty
    @MrAwesomeMatty Před 2 lety +19

    I actually had to pause the video with how stupid that argument of 'You can't be the face of the NBA if people can't pronounce your last name" was. By the dude's logic, Luka and Giannis can't be considered either, since people will struggle with their last names.

  • @Vince-tt1uj
    @Vince-tt1uj Před 2 lety +27

    It reminds me a bit what happened to Giannis when he was winning his MVPs back to back. Giannis was winning MVP over LeBron and they were mad at him, said that he wasnt have any Playoff success, like that would matter in REGULAR SEASON MVP.

    • @deebofleebo6427
      @deebofleebo6427 Před rokem

      Fun fact: Hakeem Olajuwon had a minimum of 4 seasons better than this "historic" season, and didnt win MVP or DPOY, including back to back seasons of 2,034p, 1,105r(led the NBA) 213s(NBA record for centers), 287b, then the next season 1,995p, 1,149r(led NBA), 234a, 174s, 376b(led NBA)! The league is so trash now, that Jokic is the MVP twice, when basketball gods like Olajuwon only had 1! Oh well, congrats I guess

    • @sideranical7456
      @sideranical7456 Před rokem

      Sir. I am a biased rockets fan, but give Jokic his props. Hakeem, as great as he is, did not have a 2000p 1000rb 500a season

    • @deebofleebo6427
      @deebofleebo6427 Před rokem

      @@sideranical7456 No he had better seasons than that multiple times

    • @clauzelmoutima6490
      @clauzelmoutima6490 Před rokem

      @@deebofleebo6427 well I’m a rockets fan but jokic is the only player in history with 2,000 points 1,000 rebounds and 500 assist and he has the highest regular season per of all time and he’s the only player to average 25 points 13 rebounds and 6 assists

    • @clauzelmoutima6490
      @clauzelmoutima6490 Před rokem

      @@deebofleebo6427 so yea he deserved that mvp

  • @tashrif46
    @tashrif46 Před 2 lety +50

    Nick "The Clown" Wright, the analytical stat geek, who claims that LeBron should have been MVP for the last 10 years, is angry with this.

    • @tooforwon241
      @tooforwon241  Před 2 lety +9

      Lol Nick being angry at this just makes this whole situation even funnier

    • @tashrif46
      @tashrif46 Před 2 lety +10

      @@tooforwon241 his entire arguement for LeBron winning MVP all these years was numbers. But somehow, when it is someone else, he tries to act like that

    • @johnhancock1362
      @johnhancock1362 Před 2 lety +1

      @@tashrif46 he uses nothing but total stats for Lebron…. Then proceeds to throw it all away for Jokic

    • @steveoshei1819
      @steveoshei1819 Před 2 lety

      He did the same thing with Josh Allen for the last 2 years.He's a liberal sports hack who never played a physical sport in his life

    • @playforkeeps3536
      @playforkeeps3536 Před 2 lety

      @@johnhancock1362 Another hack like skip bayless who picks and chooses random players to like and dislike for ratings and it seems like if nick likes a guy skip doesn't like with giannis , leBron and luka 🤔

  • @kOcHayt
    @kOcHayt Před 2 lety +55

    I am from Serbia and I was going to almost all of his games, even back here he was a great personality dude, doing his thing on the court and giving it all every time and loving the game, he still didn't change a bit, even with all of this fame, money and everything, firstly great person, secondly great player. Won't even go into this MVP discussion cause its clear as day he deserved it

  • @Solodolo84
    @Solodolo84 Před 2 lety +5

    On point my guy. I always say, how can people determine greatness if the criteria changes from person to person year by year? When they talk Lebron, Russ, Harden, Dame its all numbers numbers numbers. But when you mention Booker, Giannis, Jokic, Luka, the argument changes and they move the goal posts. Energy, keep it the same. Speak your speech brotha 🍻 top notch video

  • @nine3seven
    @nine3seven Před 2 lety +7

    CAN WE BE REAL FOR A MINUTE …
    If Jokic was a black man , NO ONE WOULD CARE !

  • @gustavopaniza9964
    @gustavopaniza9964 Před 2 lety +7

    I was so entertained throughout the clip, but adding that Morris situation just made the video a 10 out of 10.
    Greetings from Colombia.

    • @tooforwon241
      @tooforwon241  Před 2 lety +2

      Wow thank you! That's high praise. Jokic is so badass & it was a great moment

  • @Mamba219
    @Mamba219 Před 2 lety +14

    Jokic and Giannis are my favorite players since Tim Duncan retired and have got me back into watching basketball. Love both those dudes and hope to see Jokic on a contender as fast as possible.

    • @daebak7370
      @daebak7370 Před rokem

      What about embiid he's the present day 7'2 hakeem

  • @MichelePonte
    @MichelePonte Před 2 lety +3

    Great video. I clicked on it without knowing how big is your channel and the flow was on point

    • @tooforwon241
      @tooforwon241  Před 2 lety +1

      Thank you so much! It makes me happy to read your comment

  • @djangoropa9860
    @djangoropa9860 Před rokem

    Watching your vid again and your takes didn't lose edge or point two months later. Right on point. And you are funny as hell, pinching those fools right where it hurts them. Wonderful 😆

  • @SandraSvetlanaSantiago
    @SandraSvetlanaSantiago Před rokem +1

    He is role model not just for people in spots, but also for anyone else - be present, do your best, be part of the time

  • @ruggednugget303
    @ruggednugget303 Před 2 lety +23

    I was kinda hoping you’d also mention (which you killed it so I’m only adding an additional point to your fantastic vid) that no one was this upset when Giannis won b2b mvps before he had won or even been in a single finals

    • @tooforwon241
      @tooforwon241  Před 2 lety +2

      Yes that is true. But the reason I didn't mention it is because people have said this to further argue why Jokic should'n be b2b MVP

  • @nikolamarinkovic2698
    @nikolamarinkovic2698 Před 2 lety +26

    Great video! Absolutely deserved. Nikola Jokić is the NBA's MVP.

  • @stanislavstef
    @stanislavstef Před 9 měsíci +1

    love it, great video.
    telling truth is so easy and so rewarding.
    and yeah, just for that morris situation - Jokic should've gotten 2 MVP awards that season.

  • @noahssircharge
    @noahssircharge Před 2 lety

    Every word you said was warranted. Thank you 👊

  • @sjbell4653
    @sjbell4653 Před 2 lety +13

    I know the Nuggets got bounced in five by the Warriors, but anyone who watched that series knows Jokic was the best player on the court, and that says something because Golden State has some really great players.

    • @tooforwon241
      @tooforwon241  Před 2 lety +1

      For sure! He played better in this postseason than Embiid did

    • @HowardMoon56
      @HowardMoon56 Před 2 lety +1

      Exactly, Warriors will win the West, and possibly the Great finals, so Nuggets never had the chance in the first place.

  • @alobratans6315
    @alobratans6315 Před 2 lety +19

    Mad respect my guy.

    • @tooforwon241
      @tooforwon241  Před 2 lety +4

      Thank you! But man, how has CZcams not cracked down on your pfp? That cat is sus ngl

    • @alobratans6315
      @alobratans6315 Před 2 lety +4

      @@tooforwon241 😉It's too cute to get banned

    • @shomy5398
      @shomy5398 Před 2 lety +1

      @@alobratans6315 for sure :D

  • @bronco0799
    @bronco0799 Před 2 lety +11

    Jalen Rose had it right! Anyone who knows basketball just watched the MVP award go to the "MOST VALUABLE PLAYER" on his team. He played EVERY game of the season with a make shift lineup that was without it's 2nd and 3rd best players who were out for the season. 2,000-1,000-500? Seriously

    • @deebofleebo6427
      @deebofleebo6427 Před rokem

      Fun fact: Hakeem Olajuwon had a minimum of 4 seasons better than this "historic" season, and didnt win MVP or DPOY, including back to back seasons of 2,034p, 1,105r(led the NBA) 213s(NBA record for centers), 287b, then the next season 1,995p, 1,149r(led NBA), 234a, 174s, 376b(led NBA)! The league is so trash now, that Jokic is the MVP twice, when basketball gods like Olajuwon only had 1! Oh well, congrats I guess

    • @Tvan02
      @Tvan02 Před rokem +2

      @@deebofleebo6427 what does Hakeem have to do with this?

    • @deebofleebo6427
      @deebofleebo6427 Před rokem

      @@Tvan02 just letting you know how schit this league is

  • @Unitas19
    @Unitas19 Před 2 lety +8

    Jokic is definitely deserving. ✌️👍 Dudes a monster on the court and an inspiration off it.

  • @VLE-Grimace
    @VLE-Grimace Před 2 lety +3

    You’re killing it brother keep it up! 👍

  • @0mally13
    @0mally13 Před 2 lety +5

    They hating on the whiteboy being the best player in the league lmao

    • @FreshPrincex4
      @FreshPrincex4 Před 2 lety +1

      Uh..have you seen how many people love luka for example? Race isn't the reason lol

    • @korreaction7296
      @korreaction7296 Před 2 lety +3

      @@FreshPrincex4 it absolutely is. If this were Luka winning b2b mvps they'd being doing the same thing. They pulled this same shit when Nash did it too.

    • @Mkj119
      @Mkj119 Před rokem

      @@FreshPrincex4 they tolerate non black players up to a certain point. And if your asian, the hate is immediate (so happy melo STILL doesnt have a ring!)

  • @Mvan5389
    @Mvan5389 Před 11 měsíci

    This video makes me so happy. So many basketball players/analysts making analysis with education u can only receive in the hood

  • @c.ground5314
    @c.ground5314 Před 2 lety +2

    This is a fantastic video, with a great point. SUBSCRIBED!!

    • @tooforwon241
      @tooforwon241  Před 2 lety +1

      Wow that means a lot! I definitely hit a cord with a lot of you out there. Glad to see it!

  • @resevoirdog
    @resevoirdog Před rokem +3

    Dude you're hilarious lol great editing and shit you make me laugh bro. Such a good channel I love your scripts lol just watched your whole catalog lol funny stuff man ! One raptors guy to another lol

    • @tooforwon241
      @tooforwon241  Před rokem +2

      Lol that is so kind of you! Thank you for watching my videos ❤

  • @2nmingo
    @2nmingo Před 2 lety +3

    Nikola is a genius on the court. well deserved mvp.

  • @evanmurakami5326
    @evanmurakami5326 Před 2 lety +2

    Love this video bro, diehard nuggets fan here. F*ck the haters

  • @rybread1727
    @rybread1727 Před rokem +2

    Love that Jokic truly represents team basketball and not the Iso ball bs so popular in America

    • @de132
      @de132 Před rokem

      Eh, he's still a ball dominant distributor, one of the best I've ever seen but It's hubs and spokes with him. You wanna see team basketball, look at the team that knocked him out of the playoffs

  • @shin0012
    @shin0012 Před 2 lety +13

    Media fell in love with embiid so much that it was borderline d riding. They just so salty their narrative failed its hilarious. Jokic was a better playmaker. Shooting and ball handling. Basically same or even better offense than embiid. Improved on defense to be atleast actually good. Sixers were just on more media attention. Perk and jefferson thinks winning matters for mvp. Says guys who prob voted for russ first triple double season. Plus with embiid the injuries are always a concern. People claiming what embiid had to go through with ben simmons. Guys look at what jokic does with both his 2nd and 3rd best players gone.

    • @daddynanners3944
      @daddynanners3944 Před 2 lety

      They've been riding Embiid since he entered the league. They want him to become this player that he'll never become because they have this manufactured fantasy.

  • @dennisv3972
    @dennisv3972 Před 2 lety +12

    Haters gonna hate

  • @valebonfi4482
    @valebonfi4482 Před 2 lety +4

    I'm a LeBron fan and I'm super happy Jokic is the back to back mvp. Dude is playing basketball the right way, imagine voting for a ft merchant and making arguments like "eye test" and "got that dawg in him" when Embiid flops worse than a soccer player.

    • @ShittyCut
      @ShittyCut Před 2 lety

      I am a huge Luka fan and was calling him over my U of A Wildcat Ayton, but he flops and cries a lot. I am a Wolves fan, Kat is the worst crybaby ever.

  • @Copenanger
    @Copenanger Před rokem +1

    I love you man! In this video it's all facts... First one to this kind of story about, my man, the JOCKER!

  • @TheBINIBALL
    @TheBINIBALL Před 2 lety +9

    Embiid didn’t go any further than Jokic 😭😭😭😭

  • @PhoenixTeamMG
    @PhoenixTeamMG Před 2 lety +8

    The Serbian finesse & precision. 👌💥☆🌟👀 He knows what to do w/ the ball at all times. &, there's no underselling what Jokic did this season, sorry if this hurts you! 🤷‍♂️ Many, were, & are deserving for different reasons. But, while many were putting up career years. Jokic was putting up a year, unlike anything we've ever seen before. 😉😳🔥

    • @PhoenixTeamMG
      @PhoenixTeamMG Před 2 lety +1

      The Finals MVP is attributed to those that go the distance, in the postseason. The player who does the most for his team, in the extra season. ☝💪

  • @user-ru3pz9vv6t
    @user-ru3pz9vv6t Před 2 lety +1

    Good job with the logic and artistic appreciation

  • @aperspective9258
    @aperspective9258 Před 2 lety +1

    Amazing video
    Thank you

    • @tooforwon241
      @tooforwon241  Před 2 lety

      No problem! And thank you for the kind words

  • @Loose89
    @Loose89 Před 2 lety +15

    While I don't like to use the card or bring it up but with some of the reactions and lack of logic behind a lot of the complaints from these "analysts" and former players, I actually think some of it is a racial bias for Embiid and against Jokic. Both had great seasons, both had to overcome adversity with team mates being out injured and both scraped into the playoffs but they are acting like Embiid lead the 76ers to a 60+ win season and Jokic missed they playoffs, there is a clear bias who these pundits wanted to win.

    • @MMALifestyle1972
      @MMALifestyle1972 Před 2 lety

      There is bias but not Racial bias. Now yall stretching this thin.

    • @Loose89
      @Loose89 Před 2 lety +2

      @@MMALifestyle1972 There may or may not be but there is definitely an irrational bias against Jokic. Both he and Embiid had comparable seasons yet most of the "analysts" who are complaining are treating it as if Embiid was absolutely robbed when it could've gone to either when looking at both of their seasons without any preconceived biases, also the ones who are the most aggressive with their criticism towards Jokic for winning MVP are all african american. If the shoe was on the other foot there would certainly be people bringing up the race card against them.

    • @savagetv6460
      @savagetv6460 Před rokem +4

      @@MMALifestyle1972 why are they comparing him to the other side only white back to back mvp? It's difk

  • @tomasbaltzer9649
    @tomasbaltzer9649 Před 2 lety +6

    Jokic well deserved MVP

  • @leonsam11
    @leonsam11 Před 2 lety +1

    I agree with everything you have said 💯 preach it

  • @8teenOfficial
    @8teenOfficial Před rokem +2

    So glad that Nuggets will have a great chance to win the NBA trophy 🎉

  • @victorf6672
    @victorf6672 Před 2 lety +21

    Harden, Maxey, Harris. All would've been the CLEAR number two option in the Nuggets this year. Hell, the way MPJ was playing even if he was healthy he wouldn't have been better than any of these guys.
    Edit: Seth Curry would've been the 2 option too.

    • @demonkingbadger6689
      @demonkingbadger6689 Před 2 lety +1

      I have ro say right now, i would consider Maxey as the 76ers own #2 over Harden.

  • @FourthDown
    @FourthDown Před 2 lety +3

    great video bro

  • @imanolvides3185
    @imanolvides3185 Před 2 lety +1

    1st time watching a vid by this channel. Great content 👍

    • @tooforwon241
      @tooforwon241  Před 2 lety +1

      Wow love to hear it! Hope you stick around for more

  • @bochini1
    @bochini1 Před rokem +1

    I'm glad I found your channel, great content, automatically subscribed.

  • @justnahayo8490
    @justnahayo8490 Před 2 lety +3

    This is once again a W video 😂🔥🔥🔥

  • @rickmolen7977
    @rickmolen7977 Před 2 lety +4

    Jokic is 6'11. He can dribble,shoot from multiple ranges, block shots and pass. What do American basketball players at 6'11 do best ? Dunk and block shots. The NBA is going through what the NHL went through in the 1980's. The European influence is going to be more present inthe NBA.

    • @RandallBalls
      @RandallBalls Před 2 lety

      Its not about Europe. They love Giannis. It's about race numb nuts

  • @Rubix2023
    @Rubix2023 Před 2 lety +1

    Subscribed! Because of this video. Great job!

  • @chrisjager9426
    @chrisjager9426 Před rokem

    This is an amazing vid and the ending was great too 😂

  • @isaaklevin7875
    @isaaklevin7875 Před 2 lety +6

    Making a point about the "Morris situation" is the highlight of this video.
    Someone had to say it straight like this.
    Let the snowflakes (in philly) melt.

  • @sexualchocolate7825
    @sexualchocolate7825 Před 2 lety +55

    Thanks man for fighting the right battle. The fact is that people don't care about the context. I would even argue that he shouldn't have won last year. Not because he didn't deserve it, but because I knew how the media are gonna react. Especially knowing that the Nuggets have a limited squad. It's wonder they even made it through the first round last year. Regardless of what is the truth, casuals (which are the most of the fans) are gonna remember him as the worst MVP, chosen by the keyboard warriors. Sad but true.

    • @Solodolo84
      @Solodolo84 Před 2 lety

      Well to be honest, who cares what the media thinks. They will shove and force feed the people (casuals and "fans" included) that one player is miles better, but in reality is a fraud just for views and clicks. When the whole time, people are overlooking greatness year after year. Look at the slander that Giannis gets, Booker still don't get nods and he is solidified. Remember the cheap shots Steph got during the first ankle injury? He had to show them big moments time after time til they started to respect him. It took 3 rings to do that, meanwhile the same media considers Harden an all time great? First they love you, then they hate you.

    • @sexualchocolate7825
      @sexualchocolate7825 Před 2 lety +6

      @@Solodolo84 but you also have examples of players being disrespected long after they stopped playing. Steve Nash and Charles Barkley come to mind first. This is why I would much rather prefer for Jokić to win with Denver in silence, without too much of a media coverage, but also without spinning narratives against him. And unless Denver improve their team, maybe he will end up, in the eyes of many as "the worst MVP we had in 30 years".

    • @Solodolo84
      @Solodolo84 Před 2 lety +5

      @@sexualchocolate7825 well said. I, also like you, am tired of the disrespect of solid players. Especially ones that get better every season. Most if not all of these media heads will throw shit at the wall, see if it sticks, and the argument that gets the most "yeah, he's right" nods will become their spin....until like you said, context is applied and they look like clowns. You got the right outlook, it's still sad how they tear down great players but flower up the frauds with viral plays and marketability. It's business I guess, but it's not fact.

    • @samomalo9368
      @samomalo9368 Před 2 lety +2

      @@sexualchocolate7825 nah that’s just social media talk as soon as you put up jokic his numbers they have no arguments at all

    • @sexualchocolate7825
      @sexualchocolate7825 Před 2 lety

      @@samomalo9368 yes, but they're majority

  • @resevoirdog
    @resevoirdog Před rokem +2

    This channel is amazing

  • @E-Man08
    @E-Man08 Před rokem +1

    “Deserves to be the mvp but shouldn’t have won it” is craaaaazzzzyyyyy

  • @StefanWB
    @StefanWB Před 2 lety +4

    As far as the NBA's talking heads at ESPN like Richard Jefferson (who I liked as a player but c'mon man) are concerned, they probably think Russell Westbrook and Derrick Rose should have finished above Jokic in the MVP race because they sell more shoes.

  • @pacific237
    @pacific237 Před 2 lety +19

    what actually matters in this game? at a certain point it seems like there is no criteria to judge ppl on that anyone can agree with. I care about winning. individual players dont win games teams do. individual players can effect winning, they can help their team win but it ultimately cant rely on one person to win and thats what the nuggets were this year. fucking aaron gordon was their second leading scorer so idk why the teams record is seen as jokic's record. you know that if jokic had even one player as good as tobias harris then this would be a different story. that team was sad as hell so sad and he didnt win the mvp because he dragged them up to a six seed, he won because did you fucking see him play. he did everything. be realistic here and consider that even his 30 points 10 assists and 15 rebounds was not going to be what it took for that team to win but what more could he do tbh? I think that theres a lot of bullshit narrative stuff that is part of this award that overrides the actual meaning of the words most valuable player and I would just say that no player was as valuable to their team as jokic. not saying embiid didnt deserve it if he won but for my money no one was as valuable a player as jokic. when the team is better the nuggets are easily my favs to get to the conference finals (at least)

    • @tooforwon241
      @tooforwon241  Před 2 lety +3

      Man you said it beautifully. So much talk about how Embiid is winning more meaningful game, but not about how he wins it compared to Jokic. Jokic having Aaron Gordon as his second option (the only other player to average at least 15 ppg - at 15.0 ppg) shows how reliant on Jokic the Nuggets were. More reliant on than any player. More valuable to a team than any other player.

    • @soshsworkchannel6307
      @soshsworkchannel6307 Před 2 lety +2

      The thing is if he had a shooter he'd have 20 asts per game

    • @demonkingbadger6689
      @demonkingbadger6689 Před 2 lety

      @@tooforwon241 yeah, i pointed out something like that somewhere last night. Taking out Harden. Seth Curry was their 4th scorer at 15 a game, exactly the amount of the Nuggets 2 guy.

    • @HowardMoon56
      @HowardMoon56 Před 2 lety

      You're right, without Jokić, tje Nuggets would be at the bottom with Rockets.

  • @Shelldamage
    @Shelldamage Před rokem

    Great video!

  • @hot_shit
    @hot_shit Před 2 lety

    It’s fun to watch joker because anything he shoots can go in, it’s fun watching him take over a game

  • @Jistsu77
    @Jistsu77 Před 2 lety +3

    I love how they keep talking nonsense over and over again, and he keeps proving them wrong over and over again. At the end of the day the numbers speak for themself. It's unseen that somebody can dictate the game so much, and be that efficient, while being 7'0" tall. It's just unfortunate, but makes me personally very happy, that Embiid, Giannis, Luka, KD, Steph are playing in his time, or era, because in any other season they also deserve MVP. Joker is just something else, and unseen...

  • @terrancevanliew1814
    @terrancevanliew1814 Před 2 lety +15

    The league can't figure out how to market Jokic so they market him through manufactured controversy. No player ascends to this level without taking shit.
    I for one am glad Jokic has his own skip bayless and I can't wait to see him proven wrong every single year.

    • @tooforwon241
      @tooforwon241  Před 2 lety +2

      I like that mindset. It really drives home that Jokic is forcing these media outlets to cover him even though they'd rather cover other top talents. He's just too good to ignore, so they try to stir the pot

    • @FreshPrincex4
      @FreshPrincex4 Před 2 lety +3

      @@tooforwon241 funny thing about it
      They literally could market jokic easily.
      His nickname is money itself, the fact he was drafted during a taco bell commercial. Could be another taco bell endorsement type of thing
      His personality is without a doubt one of the best in the league for a foreign player

  • @LiberalJudea
    @LiberalJudea Před rokem +2

    They goal shifted instead of “he needs to win” it’s now “he’s stat padding!”.

  • @xxjackirblackbloddxx7377

    great vid, keep it up!

  • @aleksandartodorovic1302
    @aleksandartodorovic1302 Před 2 lety +4

    I understand them, it is very difficult for them to understand that in order to match him, they will have to know a lot more about the game, than just jumping and dunking. One man changed the game. It will be difficult for anyone to catch up with his stats.
    Great video 👍

  • @michaelo3729
    @michaelo3729 Před 2 lety +5

    Nikola will attract players to the team and get the respect he deserves ! I promise you he will get his real glory this upcoming year!

  • @shortyyshortz
    @shortyyshortz Před rokem

    Just how you ended it talking about him pushing Morris got my subscription 😅 f that guy

  • @01BLSP4Y
    @01BLSP4Y Před 2 lety +3

    "The MVP is a promotional award for this league." Imagine complaining about the fact the MVP isn't just a popularity contest.