XGIMI Horizon Ultra vs Hisense C1 vs Nomvdic P1000. I Can Never Go Back...
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00:00 Introduction
00:42 Brightness and Contrast
06:13 Color Gamut and Accuracy
08:42 Viewing Experience
13:44 Sharpness and Focus
16:20 Input Lag
17:28 Ambient Noise Levels
18:15 Speaker Quality
20:03 Mounting Options and Throw Distance
21:42 Conclusions - Věda a technologie
*CORRECTION:* The NOMVDIC 0.65" DLP chip (DLP650TE) does shift 4x, but allows for higher refresh rates and lower input lag. The 0.66" DLP chip is on the one that only needs 2x pixel shifts, I clicked on the wrong datasheet when writing my script.
*UPDATE:* The XGIMI Horizon Ultra firmware update published September 23 has fixed the input lag, and I now measure 18.3ms in game mode with "boost" on.
Awesome review - as always Rob TY. Looking fwd to your Nomadic calibrations. Fwiw-2 lil felt bumpers under handle over magnets quieted mine couple dbs. Still weird buzz instead of fan whir but a bit better. Could the usb-c input which shows same frame rates as the hdmi input be used with an adapter as a second input for Firestick? Find it Easy getting used to blacks and contrast 😊
Hello, I was thinking of buying the xgimi ultra, but the contrast and brightness disappointed me. But the fact that the fan is very quiet, good colors, design and the optical zoom make it quite attractive. With the update were you able to improve any aspect of the image? Is something noticeable or was it just the longer response time you mentioned. I hope you can answer my question
@@pantojachavarriadavid2766 To my knowledge it is not possible to increase contrast ratio via a software update.
Hi Rob, great review. Do you know if the 18.3ms Input Lag is still achievable when keystone correction is used? Thanks
@Ginnerhur No, game modes are with no keystone
This is one of the most impressive projector reviews I have seen. Your detail, explanations, and thoroughness make choosing a quality projector a lot eaiser. Exceptionally well done! Thank you!
Nah man now it’s hard, I gotta figure out what’s important for my needs instead of a paid CZcamsr just telling me which one I should buy
I bought a XGIMI Horizon Ultra, and will be returning it. His review here is dead on accurate. The XGIMI's muddy blacks just ruins the projector - but it does have excellent 3D and sound. Anywho, this guy has a ton of credibility with me after seeing this and comparing it to what I got. Even the recommended brightness setting is exactly what I set mine to without seeing this first. The paid shill CZcamsrs out there saying this projector is amazing and the black levels are great, they have no credibility.
This is beyond a review. This is quality research that should be published in a journal! Amazing job.
Rob,
First off, thanks so much for the time and diligence that you put into your reviews. You literally covered every aspect of these lifestyle projectors
that I was looking for in a review. You must spend quite some time practicing your presentation to give the volume of information within less than a halfhours time.
A couple of days ago , You promised review today and delivered. Always overachieving on the presentation. OUTSTANDING review. Thanks Bud!!
Awesome video! Thanks for mentioning the 3D capability for the projectors, as I've asked in my comment for a previous video. I'll keep following the projector reviews because I'm planning my home theater build for the end of next year and your videos are a major part of my future buying choice.
I cannot imagine the amount of time you have put into just this video alone! There are so many facets to this subject that it's easy to go down the rabbit hole in any one of them and spend a crazy amount of time uncovering data and nuances.
Thank you for providing such valuable content!
Seriously!!! 😂😂😂
He is Paid to make these videos.
Nothing he is doing I would consider Working.
His conclusions are laughable. You watched a paid advertisement.
@@JesusSavesSinners Sounds like someone has buyer's remorse and it's too late to return it 😢
Amazingly detailed round up as usual. thanks!
We've been waiting for this! Your projector reviews are the best 🎉
I think your reviews are constantly improving , big thumbs up for that.
I love that you now have a method to combat manufacturers boosting sequential contrast falsely. I also think it's great that you're reviewing out of the box colour accuracy. So few will ever have a professional calibration on their projector so out of the box accuracy is really important. Projector manufacturers need to be called out on this more.
Really looking forward to your 2023 UST shootout. Hopefully featuring the Nexigo Aurora Pro, Formovie Theater, AWOL 3500 and Epson LS800.
All of those projectors will be included. October 13th is the planned release date.
@@TheHookUp Just a quick question regarding the Nexigo Aurora Pro (their kickstarter runs out before October 13th). Is laser speckle a thing with those kind of UST projectors too? their kickstarter pricing seems very tempting but it's still a lot of money...
@@peterpepepedroLaser speckle is a much smaller issue with USTs due to the smaller throw distance, and I've also found that UST specific CLR screens tend to minimize speckle.
Thank you very much for this review, it's fantastic. I was just to hit the purchase button for the hisense C1, until your note regarding the laser speckle on ALR screens. I do have your same screen (Vividstorm Obsidian ALR 0.8) 92". I was wondering if the laser speckle comes only at certain distances or it is something always present. Also, does the C1 come with digital Zoom?
I am always so impressed with your reviews. Amazing job!
Great job with these awesome reviews and comparisons. You were great as usual. Doing all this at your house by yourself it seems. 👍🏼
You're projector reviews are hands down the best on this entire platform. I can't express how much these help with buying decisions.
Thank you!
Thanks so much for doing this review! I was starting to get fomo on the Verizon ultra because of all the CZcams hype! I have a Sony VPL285 and a furyHD(for Dolby Vision) and I was thinking about upgrading, do you think any of these would be better/worth the upgrade or do you think I should go with a different projector? My room is A dedicated home theater with like control. It’s time to replace my bulb so making sure Im not missing out on anything else. Thanks for your advice!
The Hisense C1 would be a huge upgrade from the VPL285. Similar brightness (though the laser will seem brighter), and massively better color on the Hisense.
@@TheHookUp that’s kinda what I was thinking. I know the VPL285 is about 5 years old and the technology has gotten better by leaps and bounds, for the price do you think the C1 or should I spend a more on a Sony, JVC, or Epson? Just wanting the best quality for the price because I spend a lot of time in there
My gut tells me you will be absolutely blown away by the C1 compared to your Sony.
@@TheHookUp thanks I’ll go ahead order one!
Great review. Thanks for the in depth insights. In your videos, you often talk about elements you don't deep dive into (e.g. adjusting iris settings to find a balance between brightness and contrast ratio, or reflectivity of your screen affecting the image). Any chance you could do a video deep diving into those various ancillary elements that play into the overall viewing experience?
Thx for detailed review. Do you think that 4K projector would give better results than old full hd one on plain white wall without screen ? Had screens and that bending and casing is huge and doesn’t fit room’s design.
This was the review I've been waiting for. It seems like everyone was pumping out a review of the Horizon Ultra at the exact same time. Probably embargo but still looks sus. I hope your channel really takes off.
Thank you for the reveiw. Wish C1 had optical zoom, It would be perfect. Dolby Vision changes the game, hopefully within a year other producers will follow the trend and we can see a big competition and better prices.
Thank you for the in-depth, honest review Rob!
Not only you do the most comprehensive tests, but also your music taste is elegant and tasteful!
Just earned a sub. I do not think I have ever seen a more detailed review/comparison ever. Thank you for this work.
Edit: Does using silver or black (alr) screens make a significant different in black levels?
Low gain screens will reduce both the max luminance and the black floor.
After seeing you last review I expected bad things about the laser speckle of the JMGO - and was pleasantly suprised that it was only noticeably in certain scenarios when I got my hands on one now. I second your opinion that they must have done something that induces horizontal stripes. They don´t bother me though as they´re only visible when getting close to the projected image. Thank you for your great work!
Would you recommend the JMGO Ultra at present?
@@wahidemran833 I would. But I lack the comparison to most of the other projectors in this video. I only have the Horizon Ultra which is also quite good but not as bright and versatile and a bit louder regarding fan noise.
@verficationaccount thanks, i just ordered one from Aliexpress, i also have no comparison except an old outdated bulb projector so im sure im going to like it. One quick question, is it as sharp as a 4k 55 inch tv (not to get specific)?
@@wahidemran833 It is very sharp and 4k does look good. I don't have a TV but I would not think that it is less sharp. Let me know what you think about it when it arrives!
@verficationaccount sure i will do. I have to wait a month due to Chinese celebrations. Now i got to plan my living room, whether to paint it grey and get a white screen or all white... whats your set up?
You are the most thorough reviewer I follow, and I appreciate your videos for the objective analysis you provide. Thank you for doing the hard work so I don’t have to.
One among the best review that I have come across on the comparison of projectors. It was impressive to see all the important distinction between projectors are clearly emphasized. Great work. Thank you for doing this.
The C1 looks great.
One correction - looks like the P1000 is equipped with the same 0.65" 1080p chip as the BenQ X3000i and HT4550 which seems to shift 4x not 2x. It also seems to support 240hz at 1080p which should be 4.2ms.
Hmm, I checked the TI datasheet on it and it said 2x shift, where are you seeing 4x? It does support 1080p240hz but the Leo Bodnar lag tester can't measure that resolution (or 4k120hz).
@@TheHookUp The 1080p DLP650TE has to shift 4x per frame in order to create a 4k-like image. It is outlined on page 7.1 in the datasheet "...enables each micromirror to display four distinct pixels on the screen during every frame...".
There is also a 0.66" model which is higher resolution and only needs 2x shift for 4k.
Well damn, I must have clicked on the wrong friggin data sheet. Ugh, guess I'll have to pin a comment.
@@TheHookUp It happens :). Awesome review otherwise though! Appreciate the detail and I really like comparisons with other projectors - so many reviews out there with no comparisons these days (It's great, etc.).
I’ve been doing lots of research on 4k laser projectors and to me the Hisense C1 and the Horizon Ultra are a winner. I don’t do gaming but there are who prefer a projector for gaming. However, I’m more of a movie enthusiast so the Hisense C1 is my choice 😊
Thanks, you are amazing! Every video is flawless.
Which projector would you pick:
JMGO N1 Ultra (if you wouldn‘t care about laser speckle - I could get it for 1500€), Hisense C1 or C1 Pro (which would both cost me around 2000€)?
Thanks in advance. Keep it up!
Hisense C1 Pro (China Version) doesn't support dolby vision, so I would choose the N1 Ultra over the C1 Pro. Between the N1 Ultra and C1 (global), it would just depend on your room and content. For a light controlled room watching mostly DV content, the C1 is the choice, for watching broadcast TV or sports in a brighter environment I'd choose the N1 Ultra.
I’ve got a throw of 18 ft to a wall. Projector central’s calculator says that’s too far for the Hisense. 1. Do we think that’s true? 2. Given its digital zoom it would need to reduce the size of the image given its native throw, how would that affect the picture? I would assume I’d want it as untouched as possible, so I’d have to scoot it forward, which isn’t ideal. Thoughts?
Incredibly detailed and informative review. Unfortunately the biggest takeaway I get is that just about any 85+ inch TV will have more than 10X the brightness and contrast.
Yeah yeah yeah, the best reviewer bro
I only guess that IS missing a side by side comparison tween c1 and X5, that Would be the Winner and Second Winner 😒
Thank you for the amazing video. I really appreciate you taking the time to review these projectors in detail. Any thoughts on Epson 3800 vs the Hisense C1? No one seems to be asking this question.
Such a great review. I really like the head to head video portion !
Now THAT'S what I call a review. Other reviewers just do commercials. Wonderful job. Subscribed. 😊
No better channel on CZcams for product comparisons
Superb video. I really appreciate your thoroughness and no nonsense approach.
great content! always refreshing to see unbiased reviews that we see in the bigger channels
Great review and comparison. My XGIMI Ultra arrived today after your video. I was expecting to maybe send it back.....but out of the box it had an amazing picture on 120 inch that blew away anything I seen before. I don't think my eyes could possibly see anything better. I couldn't find anything that would make any of the other projectors more attractive. Maybe I can't see contrast anymore but I did not see anything that wasn't perfect.
Same here! I just got my Ultra last week and was blown away by it's brightness and sharpness. I love the optical zoom and the sliding door. Great 3D also. I thought the contrast was fine. It can be adjusted under the hdr setting to strong. Yes, I wish the black level is better but it can be improved by lowering the iris. It was defaulted to 8 but I lowered it to 3 and 4. This projector is super quiet too! Much quieter than my Epson 5050ub which I had
@@francismedina4547. How does it compare to your old 5050?
I returned my Dangbei Mars Pro to get the Xgimi HORIZON Ultra, and I am regretting it. The image clarity and brightness does not compare.
@@D_H_F That sucks. Man, I’ve been eyeing the ultra up but it seems like it’s not that good. Seems like the c1 is the one to get
@@ryaneckel5601 I don't think any of these projectors are a bad option except maybe the laser speckle issue, that's just not a problem I want to work with.
even in his videos, they are so close that it would come down to features and prices. I can find stuff on the C1 I don't think I will like... and I could not see any reason to want a different model. The X5 was my original wanted item but the chinese OS and lack of adjustability, no 3d, and now the lack of accuracy. All considered... I can actually tell the difference between that one and the others.
Thank you so much for this honest review and comparison! Everywhere else I just found praise and hype for the Xgimi horizon ultra. Good black levels, very bright with 2800 ANSI lumen, good contrast, beating projectors costing twice as much...... Nice to see that there is still someone who is speaking truth!
I saw a lot of questionable reviews from people who did not take any measurements.
@@TheHookUp - That seems to be the CZcams standard. Get the projector, read the spec sheet, call it a review. I don't trust those powder puff pieces in the least. The headache is that they spent SOME time with the projector and could have taken at least some basic measurements with some cheap tools, but they failed to do so.
Keep rockin' it man!
hm he still says the xgimi is good, but in dark seens it is bad. Which for instance doesnt bother me as I only watch soccer and I would game on it. So still best choice for me f.example
@@paulvail7926
Great content, as always. Thanks for taking the time!
Thank you for adding 3D to the actually tested portion of review! Keep up great work
I bought the XGIMI Horizon Ultra and this review is dead on accurate. The terrible black levels ruin everything - but the 3D and software and sound are great. I'll be returning it because of those awful black levels - which is a shame since day time scenes look great and in a dark room it gets plenty bright enough to make HDR look believable (I'm not sure I'd want it to get any brighter). But man, the second you go into a dark scene or a night time scene, it's just flat out grayish and washed out. So anywho, this guy has 100% credibility with me, unlike those shills out there saying the terrible black levels aren't actually bad - yes, they really are that bad.
If the C1 had 3D, I'd probably buy that - but man, leaving out 3D for absolutely no reason just makes it a non-starter for me. I wish projector makers would stop following TV trends and realize that people buying projectors are different than people buying TVs, and want a different experience.
The C1 Pro has 3D. Also higher brightness, contrast and color gamut. Unfortunately, the only reviews out there are in Chinese and I find their testing methodology questionable.
@@Stargaze79 well they don't sell it in the US, and I wouldn't spend $1800 on something from Aliexpress. Hopefully they bring it to the US through major stores like Amazon or Best Buy, but there's no reason this US version of the C1 can't support 3D, they just removed it to remove it because it's the trendy thing to do. It's really lame.
Man! And I wanted so much to buy this projector for 3d. And decent 2d experience... Now reading you're comment, I'm ruined my plan😢😂 And I don't know what projector to chose anymore. Did you try to different manual settings on contrast... Something I don't know...? I don't care about how acurate is the scene... The point is that image to look good, cinematic. My QLED tv display washed out black levels on PC HDMI so I always I set from driver -10 brigetness and +25 contrast, and the image become balanced. To native tv image.
I'm at first video projector. And I wanted for 3d. For normal viewing experience I don't care if I had to tweak some settings.
@@mortalaxe122 So I messed around with this thing extensively, and I will say I got much better results after going menu by menu, turning on local contrast to high, dynamic contrast to on, and brightness never to higher than 6 - but generally on 5. However, there's also an issue if you use dynamic contrast and a brightness of 4 or less, that you get really odd results that look a lot worse. One thing I didn't figure out for a while, is that when Dolby Vision is enabled, you can go in and still tweak the settings - by default it's way too blown out and it's not obvious you can change anything since it's settings are under a different menu.
Anyways, with that said, after really messing with all the settings, I got what I think is an acceptable black level out of it, but it's still pretty bad in my opinion - but the daytime scenes of anything new in 4K Dolby Vision just look insane once I got in there and tweaked everything.
So I ended up keeping it, but really it came down to the very last day, and frankly I didn't feel like going through the return process and hooking my old projector up again, etc. I'm using this in a small dedicated theater room with a screen - if you're using it in a bedroom or a place with more ambient light, or you're just not that picky, it might be a lot more acceptable. Personally, if I had to do it over again, I'd probably have just waited another 6-months and see what is new that is coming out.
Also, Best Buy has a $1999 TV, with local dimming, that is 100" with free on-wall installation - and it has Dolby Vision, all the latest and greatest. Really, I'd probably buy that, except for me personally, using a TV as a theater screen just doesn't look right, it looks like you're looking at a TV as opposed to theater - but most people don't seem to think that's an issue. Anyways, for other people that aren't me, I'd almost certainly go with the 100" TV - and for me, I only have a 94" theater screen, so it'd actually be bigger. But I have a very dark theater room - if you're doing something in an area with any sort of light leakage, I'd absolutely get the TV which will be much much brighter than even a high end projector.
I'm in Australia and unfortunately the only one available was the ultra, it's not so bad... Dolby vision with an ALR screen GREATLY helps the blacks along with the latest firmware
Would be interesting to compare those to “real” home theater projectors (sony, jvc..). Maybe even to higher ends like the NZ7.
The only thing those big boys have is major black floors (contrast) hell if the N1 Ultra or Hisense had a .003 black floor they would never sell Jvc, Sony or big boy epsons of course optical len's shift is a plus but come on the colors these 2 represent with close contrast numbers, thousands less, a quarter of the size and portable it's kind of a no brainer.. Unless your a complete enthusiast and have a quarter million dollar home theater and your screen costs nearly as much as your projector and your speakers cost more than both of those combined
Agree, I'm on my second (and probably last) lamp on an Epson TW3200 (think it is identical to HC8350) here and was looking to get a TW9400 for superior black levels and contrast. And 2.1x zoom and good lens shift from the back ceiling. 100" in a medium living room is very important for the whole family 😊
Nut now, these laser ones looks to be in the ball park so I guess I have to read up on how close the come (do they surpass my 10 year old TW3200 in accuracy and black levels?).
@@NirreFirre yes n1u blows 3200 out of the water and with the new portability features these new pjs. I have a benq 2050a and a hisense px1 pro ust and it's great but the n1 ultra is brighter than anything I've owned to the point you have to turn it down at night and when calibration is dialed in colors and contrast is amazing. I get no speckle from my wall since I'm not using a screen and higher gain screen don't either ... Hisesne beats it with Dolby Vision and some color depth but hisense doesn't have 3d and the gaming input lag is terrible... but if you wait 6 months like with anything in life there will be a better jmgo n2 ultra or 3 or 4 coming probably with Dolby Vision and more bells ans whistles
Thanks again for your time.
What settings did you calibrate the Hisense in - there are several presets on DV, be it warm 1, 2 or standard and also which laser light brightness do you use?
Thanks!
Great review and love your series on projector comparison. Top nortch! Thank you.
I may miss what is the projected size when you did all these test measurements.
Would be interesting to see for these projectors at 100, 120 and 150 inches size what would be your test results. Thanks.
All the tests were done at 100", brighter projectors are going to be better for larger screens, so Formovie X5 and JMGO N1 ultra would be best for 150".
Great video again, Rob! I'm going to put the C1 head to head against the LS11000 next week, what a strange comparison. The Epson lens adjustment is a huge plus for my space but it really looks like the C1 is a compelling package for a fraction of the cost, so it may win out if I can figure out placement.
Comment your result plz!
SO? what about the result ? Did you test the LS1000 vs the C1 ? Thank you.
Oh yes, update please, very interested
Any update on this? I’m even just considering the 4010 over the c1. Lack of brightness and no optical zoom are making it a hard sell.
@@dafritz7acx I kept the C1! I liked the image quality (sharpness, color) better than the Epson, as well as the polished UI, the remote, the build quality...lots of positives with the C1! Good luck!
Just order c1 after watching this. Thanks
Great reviews as always!
good video thank you. Is the intermediate image calculation (MEMC) good from xgimi? Is the jmgo one better? and does it also work in 3D mode and 4k? Thanks in advance
Fantastic review! Appreciate the depth and thoroughness you put into all of your reviews! I was considering the epson LS11000 but the Hisense C1 has really moved up my list. Before this review the XJIMI was in the running but this review saved me from being disappointed with the poor black level contrast performance! At 50% of the cost the, C1 really seems like a great option. Now I need to determine if eliminating rainbow effect with the LS11000 is worth $2k…thanks again!
I returned my Dangbei Mars Pro to get the Xgimi HORIZON Ultra, and I am regretting it. The image clarity and brightness does not compare.
@@D_H_F How about 3d, Is Dangbei good as Xgimi? Cuz I want to buy horizon ultra for 3d. But Dangbei is second on my list because has good contrast and sharp image. But the decisive factor is 3d. So... The Dangbei is closer to horizon ultra?
Wow! Amazing review puting all those monsters side by side. Im owner of a C1S (chinese version), my room is completly dark and its performanve is out of this world. I can´t even imagine other projector in my room, but the C1S. Thanks for another high level content!
The Hisense machines seem to consistently blow the competition out of the Box in light controlled room conditions. But Damn, damn, damn them for not including 3D.
@@brucesmith1754 but in chinese version they put 3D. I guess when they updating the firmware to Dolby Vision, it loses 3D. Wich make no sense to me att all.
@@TungNguyenThanh-fd3hy yep
Do you know if it´s possible to install the Hisense C1 Firmware (OS) with dolby vision on the Vidda C1S?
@@Serujiro i answered your question on my channel 👊🏻🙌🏻
Oustanding review. Thanks for explaining in depth specs and features . Question before I purchase the C1. Will it give a satisfactory image on a 150 inch screen in totally light controlled room.
Incredible review as always!! Thanks for the color calibration, I’ve been looking everywhere for this…. Now if only the JMGO would get a Dolby vision update
First of all, thank you for this test which must have taken a lot of time.
I find that the two best projectors in this test are the Hisense C1 and the Xgimi Horizon Ultra.
- The C1 has the best contrast so better black colors and better sharpness, brighter and integrated Netflix
- Horizon Ultra has much fairer colors, better sound, better latency, optical zoom, 3D and quieter, integrated Netflix (limited to HD)
For daily use for all areas, they are the best, and when it comes to design, everyone will have their own opinion.
The Hisense audio is also very good. I would have no issue using it without external speakers.
I'm considering getting either one of these, C1 would be the clear winner at same budget but here in Europe it's 300 euro more expensive. can you tell if the C1 image quality that much better?
This is the kind reviews i want to see, the non paid ones for their usefulness. Thank you. Now it all reduces to availability/price to my region.
Saw a deal for the Hisense, almost bought it but held off after watching your review. It would have worked fine, but thanks to how in depth you get , there would have been some issues in the long run that thankfully were avoided after watching this comparison. Excellent work, subscribed!
What issues would you have run into? Have had the C1 for a few weeks and love it.
I needed a projector with less lag. The C1 would have been ok for casual gaming, but I am a little more on the competitive side of things. @@hjahja
Everyday entering on your channel waiting for this review! Tanks
Amazing! Thank you so much 👍 Do you have any opinion of the Customer Service between Xgimi and Hisence? How’s the compatibility with Apple? Can the size of the screen by adjusted manually?
Thanks man! You're the one who made me buy the nexigo 40. So far it's been a really good experience as a bedroom home theater setup. Only issues I have is at the bottom left of the screen a yellow area is starting to form. Do you know what that is?
That can be from overheating. Make sure there is good airflow around the projector.
Aa far as I know, there is an automatic filter option for the XGIMI to get a higher contrast. Did you do your testings with or without that option?
Thanks a lot for your review!
I tested brightness and contrast in Bright SDR mode, Cinema HDR and Cinema SDR. I assume the Cinema modes would have any WCG filter available engaged.
Best comparisons on youtube, please continue review new projectors ! love your work.
Desperate advice needed: What's the currently best projector under 1000 dollars that is no louder than 30db (normal mode) and good for gaming (input lag sub 28ms)? Thx a lot!
Amazing video as always. I always find all of your videos so intriguing because its fun to see how everything performs and how tech has advanced. I really want to see the C1 and P1000. While it definitely sounds/looks like the C1 has a big advantage in picture and tone mapping, I find aspects of the P1000 very interesting. Being the short throw, dlp chip, contrast, and input lag. I have a Benq 4550i but I honestly want something to where I can move it around more easily. Think Im going to get both to try them.
I want to change my wanbo T6 max for a 4k projector with over 1000 ANSI lumens. Recentrly i found your channel and i inmediately suscribe and like most of your videos because its pretty obvious the effort and professionalism that you put in your reviews, for me, now they are the gold standard when it comes choosing a projector.
Finally i would like to ask, what wolud be your choice, between these projectors: Formovie X5, Hisense Vidda C1 pro, Dangbei Mars Pro or JMGO N1 Ultra, if the budget is not a problem, wich one would you pick?
Thanks for your content and your answer!
Wow - Another amazing review. Much appreciated!!
Extremely helpful for this newbie projector guy. I'm looking at the Hisense C1. I'm not a big gamer so this will be perfect for me.
Thanks for another great review. This is my go to channel for specs.
Thank you very much for your wonderful video! I have one question that I hope you can help me. In Spain we only have available the Dangbei Mars Pro at around 1.300€, the C1 is not available yet, it should be available in a few weeks nevertheless the price will be around 1.900€. Do you think that the image is 40% better to justify this price difference? Thank you in advance 🙏
Awesome reviews Everytime I watch one of his videos I have to check if I have playback speed at 1.5. Saves me time!
Great review!! Will you review the Nexigo Aurora Pro? It seems to have 3000:1 contrast and possibly 5000:1 after an upcoming update. Along with 3D and dolby vision and low input lag.
Yes. That review will be out October 13th and will also have basically every other new UST on the market.
@@TheHookUp🙏
Thanks for the great video. I wanted to like XGIMI for the throw ratio but contrast. I know BenQ HT4550i is higher price bracket compared to Hisense C1 but leaving price aside & considering picture quality alone (color accuracy/gamut + contrast & considering maybe DV support) - which would you prefer/advise to go for?
If I didn't need optical zoom or offset I'd go for the C1 any day of the week. Dolby vision is a must have.
I was considering it also. But despite having Dolby Vision, those contrast results are horrible. I was suspicious that XGIMI did not report the contrast ratio for the Horizon Ultra 4K in its online specifications. Now we know why.
@TheHookUp Ha, that is unfortunate. I just purchased the Benq 4550i a week ago. It arrives on Monday. Your review definitely would convince me to return it, but it will be used it for gaming half the time as well. I wish the C1 was better for gaming, and that would be an easy decision for me to return it and get the Hisense. Especially if the picture is better.
Thanks, Rob. Keep up the good work 😊👍🏻
You make the best projector reviews!!! I ended up getting the Formovie X5 and it's been great. :)
Love the X5, definitely putting it back up on the bedroom ceiling mount today!
Just finished messing around with my X5 using the limited picture controls. I was able to get it REALLY close to calibrated with these settings: www.patreon.com/posts/89367680
Most important thing for me is 3D support! Thank you so much for continuing to cover it. So important!!
Hello. I just bought the Dangbei Mars Pro 4k. I bought it at a great price of $950, new, sealed. Do you think it's worth upgrading to Hisense C1? Is the upgrade worth the trouble, the difference in money? Is the image difference so big that it is worth the money for the upgrade? Can you make a short comparison between them? Thank you! Congratulations for everything you do. After your review I bought Dangbei. And because I bought it for 950 dollars.
Could I use a Fresnel screen with the Hisense C1? Or the best option white 1.1x gain?
Great review. Could you do a review of how they handle fast motion like soccer and boxing etc in the optimal memc setting. This is such an important factor for anyone like me who watches sport on a really big screen as it can look pretty dodgy at 150"!
MEMC was good on all of them except the NOMVDIC P1000 (which doesn't have MEMC at all).
Rob,
What would you suggest for us amateurs to use as a reference image for comparison while optimizing our projector's images. I don't really trust that my PC monitor settings are optimized enough for video comparison. I thought maybe using production stills from magazines. But i'm not sure these consumer projectors can be optimized to match those images. If the comparison images were to come from a Dolby Vision-capable projector, are those projected images suitable for comparison since the metadata optimizes the image. I assume that most consumers don't have access to a Studio production monitor or a 25K JVC unit for comparison. Thanks.
Hello Rob. Thanks for the comprehensive review. I was about to pull the plug on the xgmi.. but your video helped me in narrowing down to c1. My question is will there be a substantial loss in picture quality for a 150 or 135 inch screen for hisense c1? 120 is a bit small for my theater room. Please advise!
That's a big screen, you may need more brightness unless your room is 100% light controlled.
@@TheHookUp Thanks for the reply, Yes,it will be in a light controlled room. looks like it won't be a problem in that case. Was worried about the sharpness and quality of the picture on a bigger screen. a 1.1 gain screen is good for the above screen sizes?
@@rakeshjonnalagadda1766did you try with 150 or 135 inch screen? How is the picture?
Great review!! Help me alot on deciding on C1.
I have found that there is C1 pro on the Chinese market with increased lumens.
What are your thoughts? Should i go with the Pro version?
180inch dedicated hometheater
C1 Pro (China) does not support dolby vision. If you need the extra lumens I’d recommend waiting until the C1 (Global) comes out, but no official news about that yet.
i have been anxiously waiting for you to review the ultra..proably what is top of my list...
Great video! It's very thorough. Could you test new benq ht3560?
Hello! I’m new to the realm of projectors and I’m looking to invest my money well. I’ve seen some of your videos and I’d love to hear what do you think about the BenQ HT2050A 1080P. I’ve read a lot of good reviews but also some bad. I’d love if you could do a video for a budget of 500-800 I know it’s a quite a big range but I’ve seen a lot of gaps in price. Thank you for your work!
So the Chinese Vidda C1S will behave the same as the C1 Global in your review? (Difference is only NO Dolby vision, instead has HDR 10+ and 3D support correct?)
@thehookup I literally just received my Xgimi Horizon Ultra in the mail today. Wish I would have seen your video before that! The main reason that I bought the Ultra was because my projector placement can't be directly infront of my screen so the auto keystone and optical zoom is perfect. Do you think I can get the same level of features from the Formovie x5? Thanks!
I think that depends which features you are looking for. X5 has better brightness and slightly better contrast than the Horizon Ultra, that's about it. Hisense C1 is the one that is in a different league as far as contrast and features.
Thank you very much for this great, detailed and super clear review! A question from my side: which screen would you suggest for the Hisense C1? is its brightness strong enough for an ARL?
alr increases lazer speckle
ultra matt white screen is best
Fantastic video as always. I just ordered the Benq 4550i a week ago and you had me tempted to get the Hisense C1. I wish it was better for gaming because if so, I would probably return the Benq. I still might depending on my overall impressions. I love the fact the Benq is so color accurate out of the box but I wish it had better contrast and Dolby Vision. Hopefully I like it but if not, Ill return it. Thank you for the great content. I know these have to take a lot of work.
The 4550i is a gaming powerhouse. If that is even a small concern of yours you should stick with the BENQ.
@@TheHookUp Thank you for that. I appreciate all the amazing videos and help. Not just for buying help my I always enjoying seeing new products and how they perform. Great video and content as always
@guiltynessness8926 Yes the HT4550I is an amazing projector, BenQ did a great job, I love mine.!
@JoelsterG Glad to hear it. Did you find the blacks to be decent? I did already watch your review before, but I'm just curious about your thoughts on that.
This was immaculate!! Thanks for the invaluable information, and effort. You just got yourself a Fan, 4 Eva!
Loving your reviews. I was about to get a Yaber 1K but then I saw that the 2 Ks has just come out … with better sound ! So many options! Any thoughts on this new one? Not many reviews yet.
It's good but not $400-500 good. Within the next month or two we are going to start seeing a lot of native 4K single LCD projectors around the $500 price point, wait for those.
Thanks!
The Yaber 2K sucked! I return it back to Amazon the next day! The image was so bad when watching SDR content. Not work 400-500
ou can grab a Dangbei Mars Pro 4K for around 1200 bucks around black friday. Great deal compared to the other prices?
Would you recommend the formovie x5 or the Jmgo? I mostly watch sport like soccer and Netflix. So the most important for me is a good picture quality and brightness.
Hi there, I love the content. Is there a chance you could review the new Dangbei X5 Ultra 4k projector?
Yes, but probably not until January or Feb 2024.
Hey projector monster guy =D Because of you I got one a formovie x5 and wow super happy with the image is better than my tv and I am using with my old matte white screen... so about projector screens for this projectors what would you recommend?
X5 is a great projector, glad to hear you're happy with it!
Just finished messing around with my X5 using the limited picture controls. I was able to get it REALLY close to calibrated with these settings: www.patreon.com/posts/89367680
I am impressed with this great video! Thank you so much!
Thank you very much for this review. Since you also tested the BenQ HT4550i, I'm very interested in your opinion on it.
Is the picture quality from the XGIMI Horizon Ultra with Dolby Vision significantly better than with the BenQ HT4550i?
Which one would you prefer? I understand that the price is almost double, but I'm looking for a long-term investment.
I would prefer the HT4550i given the choice of those two, but it is twice the price of the Horizon Ultra. In a light controlled room I would choose the Hisense C1 over both of them.
Can you do a review of the Benq gv31 which is supposed to be heaps better than the gv30 you reviewed previously.
hello. I agree with other comments. This is, by far, the most accurate review I ever see. I have a question about Hisense Viddà C1S/C1. Do you know if it possible install the global software version into C1S? In the review you say that from hardware perspective they are the same. Any advice on how to do or where look for such information? thanks
I do not believe that is possible.
Thanks a lot for your awesome video: educational, precise and in the end very helpful.
How would you compare the XGIMI Horizon Ultra to the Nebula Cosmos laser 4k? I own the latter but was thinking of returning it for the XHU, but with seeming low contrast, I'm not sure. To note, I have a poor light controlled room so my black-floor is already abismal, but do have the wall behind my 1.1 gain screen covered in velvet for reflection help.
I personally didn't care for the Cosmos Laser 4K. It's strengths were the ability to easily take it anywhere with the rugged construction, built in power supply (so there is no large external power brick), and nice handle. I wouldn't consider the Nebula laser 4K for everyday indoor use.
Hi, i have 1 more question. how were you able to access Color Tuner under Expert settings to change the values of the colors as you have them on your patreon site under color management for the C1? if i try to access color tuner, it says that the function is unavailable. :(
I could listen to this guy review projectors for hours.
I Really like how xgimi horizon ultra looks. And we have been looking for a projector for a while now and after I saw your review I wonder that is it completely bad decision to go for that. Is there so massive difference in picture quality or contrast ratio so it would be better to think something else?
I think Rob conveys a great deal of intergity in his reviews. You can almost see when he is pained to not recommend a product due to just one bad feature that shows up on an otherwise outstanding performing product. I am in the market for a "lifestyle" projector with 3D mode. I was greatly disappointed that as much as he appeared to really like the overall features and results of my 2 chosen selections ( JMGO N1 Ultra and the XGIMI Horizon Ultra 4K) they each had a glaring issue that caused him to widthdraw them from recommendation. I as much as it kills to hear this information, I appreciate it. I would be that unsatisfied guy would be pissed off to find these issues after a purchase. But the waiting game can be unbearable at times.