@@BigBoyToys-ce5qg says who? the NBA? not trolling just genuinely curious. inconsistent, zero-accountability refs seems to have never faced any consequences.
@@fanfan9748 Lakers shooting 40 plus fts while their opponents shoot around 10-15 fts in close games decided by less than 5 points... Scott Foster and CP3...
It’s funny seeing American sports finally getting exposed to the shit we’ve had to put up with in football. We’ve had multiple players banned for 8-10 months for betting on matches, only for them to come back and play on the tv channels sponsored by betting companies, and wearing kits sponsored by betting companies😂
This is in every sport. We saw it already in the English premier league, the NFL, MLB, NBA and I’m almost 100% sure it’s in the NCAA. Athletes in these other leagues just haven't been caught yet. In terms of the NHL we know they do a terrible job of investigating their players and coaches so it’s likely going on there too.
Its no surprise that every major sport is having gambling issues ever since they've started shoving it down our throats in ads and every chance they can get
There's been a case of this type of betting in the UFC, after that they banned all the fighters and the people associated to them from betting on fights
This was a very predictable outcome given how much the NBA is pushing sports betting. Any time betting has become a focus of any major sport (horse racing, even the MLB at one point) you have players who are willing to do stuff like this.
Right like could of sworn that was the most important point for sure $$ regardless but people always messed up a good thing til it don't exist & there at fault & people look 🔙 at who was overly b!tching about betting for clout regardless
agree with you.... betting is gonna ruin the game. so many betting ads on all the NBA youtube videos, its taken on, and this type of stuff is only gonna get worse over the years.
It’s existed for years. And plenty of people have jobs that involve it. We don’t even know if it’s true or not. U jumping the gun for something that has zero effect on ur life
@@justinholland6132 Yeah and plenty of people live of drugs sold to teenagers,which does not mean the whole industry isn´t a plague. A few years from now there will be thousands of stories of betting addicts that started from a young age and ruined their lives.
This isn't an isolated incident and it's going to continue to happen and in my honest opinion if we're going to give this guy a lifetime ban then the ref deserve them too
They’re almost certain he had something to do with it, I imagine they’re just trying to figure out to what degree because that could influence the punishmwnt
And, of course, one of your regular sponsors is a sports betting outfit. You are in bed with this upcoming corruption as well. It could ruin sports. See Ohtani.
It would be interesting to go through other games this season and see if there are any other irregularities with Porter. I'm betting that he probably tried a small bet before going in with a larger one. They will be able to trace the account that did the bet or bets and figure out if that person crossed paths in any way with Porter I'm betting that he thought he was pretty smart and probably had a degree or two of separation but they will figure that out. They're going to put extreme heat on somebody and somebody will crack..
It's up to three games now and more than one betting service. Also some of these were parlays on multiple JP unders with the biggest payout being over a million on a 10k bet. It's all circumstantial evidence but it is highly unlikely that this was just random betting. No one goes in on a 10 grand five way parley under prop bet on Jontay Porter without knowing something is up, no one. Someone got way to greedy.
Legalized and promoted betting is making the NBA disgusting. Hearing announcers talking about over unders and the betting line is such a distraction from crap games. You don’t help much either taking their ad money.
yea this isn't the first one my mann.. the first one was in the ufc almost 2 yrs ago when a coach was caught gambling unders on his own fighters and disclosing injuries
Not sure what was going through Jontay's head, he seems like a smart guy. He spent all those years rehabbing in Denver. If anybody watched Jontay play it was clear as day that he belongs on an NBA roster and that he had potential. A stretch 4 who can defend, shoot the ball, pass and overall plays the game the right way. We aren't talking about a fringe NBA player who we don't know whether he belongs in the G-League or an overseas roster. I would expect a player like that to do this type of stuff. But the way Jontay was playing I have no doubt that if not the Raptors, another team would have offered him a contract worth millions. And if he continued to improve he would see a bigger pay day. If he's guilty, it seems like he was trying to be greedy and thought himself way too smart for actuaries and the guys in Vegas whose job is to snuff out these kind of things.
Sports betting outside a casino should be illegal. DFS was fun at first when I could throw $1-$5 on something and compete with someone but seeing what it’s done to people and how it’s ruined lives already it needs to go
The nba didn’t even catch it , it was DraftKings that reported it bc they had lost so much money from Porter unders. But had the bettors lost , they wouldn’t have said Jack shit
So did he fake an injury or play bad enough in a short amount of time for the coach to pull him? It seems like it would be tough to control how much he played unless he faked injuries or he purposely played badly enough for the coach to yank him.
He’d leave the game with an “injury” 3 or 4 minutes in. Meaning it was either a fake injury, or he actually wasn’t feeling well, and he’d use it as an opportunity to bet on himself and leave the game after a few minutes.
@@obi3924 If he's guilty, it'll be for embellishing pre-existing injuries. You can't completely fake injuries on account of the fact that your team doctors/coach/managers examine you and don't just take your word for it considering how much they pay you and have invested in you.
@@joeyhoser That’s part of the investigation. They’ll investigate the medical staff as well, since it’s already suspicious that he supposedly was cleared to play by the medical staff, and then wasn’t able to play after only 3 or 4 minutes, on more than one occasion.
@@obi3924 Surely they will be asked questions considering their direct involvement, but I don't imagine the medical staff is under much suspicion. Why would they help a guy on a two-way convert prop bets? Also players leave games with aggravated injuries all the time and it's totally normal.
Did you just not actually listen to anything that was actually said in the video? How are you posting a question on a video, asking something that was very plainly stated and explained in the video? He explicitly stated that he claimed to reaggravate an injury 4 minutes into one game, and claimed to be sick a few minutes into the other. He left both after just a few minutes. The amount of dumb comments on this video...
A way to stop this is that prop bets under should only be processed if the player at least plays in the first quarter, and in the last quarter. Otherwise, it should be a push. The strangest thing about this is that Jontay was showing himself to be a legit player. Like his brother, he worked hard rehabbing his injuries for the last few years, and was starting to really blossom. A 6' 10" guy who can defend and shoot the 3 could potentially make a lot of money over the course of his career. So he really was betting the under ... on his entire career!
This is going to continue to happen. Money talks, and if you can make easy money doing this in a random regular season game, then more than a few guys are going to be doing this at a professional level where it will be hard to catch.
It’s typical MOB practice the pay you in full to do the job. I pay him 500k in return I make 2 million. We both walk away clean. He just one of many but he got caught.
He is a injury prone player on a 2-way contract. If bettors, with a lot of money to blow, picked up on this, why wouldn't they take their chances? The betting sites should be the one under investigation for even making props for him.
Yeah they’re all sponsored by a sport betting group and because someone doesn’t hit their line and people go under on them now it’s a problem. Yeah it’s all a scam so because they’re losing money now they’re crying about something yet. There’s a lot of stuff going on in the NBA or people are going under on their lines when they shouldn’t be Yet they lost money on someone and now they’re gonna say he’s cheating
Raptors should trade Gary Trent Jr,Gradey Dick, Bruce Brown Jr, Garrett Temple, Jontay Porter, Jakob Poeltl, to the Warriors for Gary Payton Jr, Brandin Podziemski, Andrew Wiggins, Jonathan Kuminga, Usman Garuba,........
How he gets in trouble if people noticed the under & he helps by going out the game & fans assume what the man is naturally trash 🤬 why would he risk more than anybody like his family doing on there own like people are sick 🤢 society is screwed regardless
But we’ll still have gambling ads placed literally fucking everywhere including on all my favourite CZcams channels… end game capitalism has made it this way 🚮
The amount of people in the comments who are somehow too dense to understand why this is completely different than Calvin Ridley (let alone freaking Ja Morant and Josh Giddey) is downright alarming....
One way that the different betting services could stop this from happening would be to eliminate the unders. It is much more difficult to achieve an over and therefore I would definitely make it more difficult for someone to just check out of the game before they reach their stats. Betting services being what they are there's no way that they would do this but they should think about it.😊
I don't think it would necessarily be a lifetime ban. All of the league's seem to handle these things about the same way and the NFL gave Calvin Ridley a one-year suspension. I think that was for just betting on football and perhaps he didn't bet on himself so that could definitely make it a more severe penalty but I think maybe 2 years then.
The important thing though is that the NFL stated they found no games were compromised and that there was no evidence Ridley benefitted off of insider info. If Porter is found guilty, it’s a COMPLETELY different scenario because the allegations against him say he’s doing all of that. A lifetime ban + additional legal action by the NBA would not be surprising in the least
If I see one more person compare this to Calvin Ridley.... This isn't even remotely comparable to Ridley, for a multitude of reasons. Not even slightly similar in any way. This is exponentially worse. I would be shocked if he doesnt get a lifetime ban.
@@BigBoyToys-ce5qg I don't know why people keep saying it. Ridley wasn't found to actually be compromising games hence why he only got a 1 year ban. The evidence in Porter's case is saying he did exactly that. Porter could easily face a lifetime ban + legal prosecution from the NBA and the betting sites he used
Refs need to be investigated as well as players
Refs ARE investigated, all the time. They are monitored constantly.
@@BigBoyToys-ce5qg says who? the NBA? not trolling just genuinely curious. inconsistent, zero-accountability refs seems to have never faced any consequences.
@@fanfan9748 Lakers shooting 40 plus fts while their opponents shoot around 10-15 fts in close games decided by less than 5 points... Scott Foster and CP3...
LOL hey norm norms: your precious bread and circuses are already all RIGGED.
The refs are “in on it.”
💯
This probably isn't an isolated incident
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Facts
It’s funny seeing American sports finally getting exposed to the shit we’ve had to put up with in football. We’ve had multiple players banned for 8-10 months for betting on matches, only for them to come back and play on the tv channels sponsored by betting companies, and wearing kits sponsored by betting companies😂
Duh
This is in every sport. We saw it already in the English premier league, the NFL, MLB, NBA and I’m almost 100% sure it’s in the NCAA. Athletes in these other leagues just haven't been caught yet. In terms of the NHL we know they do a terrible job of investigating their players and coaches so it’s likely going on there too.
That title is dirty 😂😂😂
So you're promoting sport gambling on your channel but also complain that sport gambling is hurting sports? 🙄
welcome to sports and sports media in a whole
Do you think that he cares, he just do whatever gives him the most money lol
Yep same with the ones that promote better help knowing how bad it is.
Remember ads in videos are just commercials
Don’t hate the player hate the game
He’s not a player and he doesn’t effect the integrity of the game - it’s not just black and white - think a little bruh
Its no surprise that every major sport is having gambling issues ever since they've started shoving it down our throats in ads and every chance they can get
No way the NBA and other North American sports leagues DIDN'T see this coming
#1 way to tip off that something is fishy, spending more than $10 on a bet on Jontay Porter
Nah ur a bad man for that title😂
Oh he’s a BAD MAMA JAMA!
- Carl Carlton
There's been a case of this type of betting in the UFC, after that they banned all the fighters and the people associated to them from betting on fights
The second Billions came into sport, shit got rigged to high heaven
This was a very predictable outcome given how much the NBA is pushing sports betting. Any time betting has become a focus of any major sport (horse racing, even the MLB at one point) you have players who are willing to do stuff like this.
Betting the under on a random role player is actually kinda genius 😆 the way Porter exited those games makes it sus
Right like could of sworn that was the most important point for sure $$ regardless but people always messed up a good thing til it don't exist & there at fault & people look 🔙 at who was overly b!tching about betting for clout regardless
0:49 You saw him dodge that assist 😂😂😂😂
One of the greatest titles I’ve seen on a CZcams video
Yapping and restating the same thing with different deliveries for 8 minutes is crazy
this is why betting should be banned lol. Not as big as what is happening with one of the best baseball player in MLB right now.
agree with you.... betting is gonna ruin the game. so many betting ads on all the NBA youtube videos, its taken on, and this type of stuff is only gonna get worse over the years.
I hate seeing all these betting ads they really just try and shove it down you throat
Its not good for the game, its not good for the public, nobody wins except Vegas
It’s existed for years. And plenty of people have jobs that involve it. We don’t even know if it’s true or not. U jumping the gun for something that has zero effect on ur life
@@justinholland6132 Yeah and plenty of people live of drugs sold to teenagers,which does not mean the whole industry isn´t a plague. A few years from now there will be thousands of stories of betting addicts that started from a young age and ruined their lives.
6:55 - Also, how is this worse than when Draymond Green took himself out of the Klay Thompson return game?
And bettors were taking the under.
This isn't an isolated incident and it's going to continue to happen and in my honest opinion if we're going to give this guy a lifetime ban then the ref deserve them too
Under investigation means that they are still trying to figure out if it was him or are they just deciding on the punishment?
Probably a bit of both tbh
They’re almost certain he had something to do with it, I imagine they’re just trying to figure out to what degree because that could influence the punishmwnt
Lmao obviously he was in on it, he was taking himself outta games
point shaving is a federal crime also.
nba might not be only people investigating him
You promote sports gambling and act shocked when this happens
Sports betting is the most obnoxious bullshit I fuckin hate it
Hate it or love it the underdogs on top 😎
@@melvingonzalez6906and I’m gon shine homey until my heart stop
If Porter gets banned all my unders going to hit 😂
I think betting and sports just shouldnt be associated. It ruins the integrity of the game. leave gambling to the casinos.
If we are suppose to accept Joe Biden winning in 2020, why would we not believe Jontay Porter was actually injured and had to leave those 2 games.
🤣
Sports betting was a mistake
His lines couldn’t have been that profitable in the first place
Did you somehow miss the part where those props had the biggest payouts on both days?
And, of course, one of your regular sponsors is a sports betting outfit. You are in bed with this upcoming corruption as well. It could ruin sports. See Ohtani.
When the refs eject the star player from a game for a petty reason. Its obvious what team the refs are betting on.
I’m a Raptors fan, but this title made my week.
Plot twist: NBA paid him a bag so they could use him as an example to scare the other players.
Damn 😂
How does Michael Porter Jr not give his brother $3 million of his 179 so he’s not in this position.
@@TheWorldIsBurninginc.
Do what we say or go back to G-League
Legalizing gambling = end of Assmerican sports
Betting is bad for any sport
It would be interesting to go through other games this season and see if there are any other irregularities with Porter. I'm betting that he probably tried a small bet before going in with a larger one. They will be able to trace the account that did the bet or bets and figure out if that person crossed paths in any way with Porter
I'm betting that he thought he was pretty smart and probably had a degree or two of separation but they will figure that out. They're going to put extreme heat on somebody and somebody will crack..
thats why i always bet under rather than over it hits more than 50 percent of the time
It's up to three games now and more than one betting service. Also some of these were parlays on multiple JP unders with the biggest payout being over a million on a 10k bet. It's all circumstantial evidence but it is highly unlikely that this was just random betting. No one goes in on a 10 grand five way parley under prop bet on Jontay Porter without knowing something is up, no one. Someone got way to greedy.
He's probably cooked
What about refs been giving the Lakers 2x the free throw attempts for most of the season?
He's related to MPJ idk why but when i found out is dying of laughter 😂
Legalized and promoted betting is making the NBA disgusting. Hearing announcers talking about over unders and the betting line is such a distraction from crap games. You don’t help much either taking their ad money.
why do you think lifetime ban...I'm thinking a season or two...players have been busted for worse things imo and come back.
yea this isn't the first one my mann.. the first one was in the ufc almost 2 yrs ago when a coach was caught gambling unders on his own fighters and disclosing injuries
Real question is why in the hell is he part of the player props in the first place? Role players don't usually be part of the player props
Refs can bet and sell games but players can’t lol
They can’t. Tim donahey?
Not sure what was going through Jontay's head, he seems like a smart guy.
He spent all those years rehabbing in Denver. If anybody watched Jontay play it was clear as day that he belongs on an NBA roster and that he had potential. A stretch 4 who can defend, shoot the ball, pass and overall plays the game the right way. We aren't talking about a fringe NBA player who we don't know whether he belongs in the G-League or an overseas roster. I would expect a player like that to do this type of stuff.
But the way Jontay was playing I have no doubt that if not the Raptors, another team would have offered him a contract worth millions. And if he continued to improve he would see a bigger pay day.
If he's guilty, it seems like he was trying to be greedy and thought himself way too smart for actuaries and the guys in Vegas whose job is to snuff out these kind of things.
Sports betting outside a casino should be illegal.
DFS was fun at first when I could throw $1-$5 on something and compete with someone but seeing what it’s done to people and how it’s ruined lives already it needs to go
Pete Rose has left the chat
Probably bet on his brother too 5 points with jokic and Murray out?
Nah MPJ usually plays bad whenever he plays without those two because he gets iced out of the offense lol
They definitely have automatic alerts to watch for stuff like this. Sports version of insider trading.
The nba didn’t even catch it , it was DraftKings that reported it bc they had lost so much money from Porter unders. But had the bettors lost , they wouldn’t have said Jack shit
Probably not isolated and you have to be swift or limit gambling and its influence
Ironic that a player for the deliberately tanking Toronto Raptors was caught out betting on the unders for himself in games
The refs giving the Lakers a 23-2 free throw advantage vs Raps in 4th quarter is okay though. Wow.
How did he got caught?
So did he fake an injury or play bad enough in a short amount of time for the coach to pull him? It seems like it would be tough to control how much he played unless he faked injuries or he purposely played badly enough for the coach to yank him.
He’d leave the game with an “injury” 3 or 4 minutes in. Meaning it was either a fake injury, or he actually wasn’t feeling well, and he’d use it as an opportunity to bet on himself and leave the game after a few minutes.
@@obi3924 If he's guilty, it'll be for embellishing pre-existing injuries. You can't completely fake injuries on account of the fact that your team doctors/coach/managers examine you and don't just take your word for it considering how much they pay you and have invested in you.
@@joeyhoser That’s part of the investigation. They’ll investigate the medical staff as well, since it’s already suspicious that he supposedly was cleared to play by the medical staff, and then wasn’t able to play after only 3 or 4 minutes, on more than one occasion.
@@obi3924 Surely they will be asked questions considering their direct involvement, but I don't imagine the medical staff is under much suspicion. Why would they help a guy on a two-way convert prop bets? Also players leave games with aggravated injuries all the time and it's totally normal.
Did you just not actually listen to anything that was actually said in the video? How are you posting a question on a video, asking something that was very plainly stated and explained in the video? He explicitly stated that he claimed to reaggravate an injury 4 minutes into one game, and claimed to be sick a few minutes into the other. He left both after just a few minutes.
The amount of dumb comments on this video...
What about the refs? They are so obvious.
He said "Oh I got an over prop of 5.5 pts at +145, over 2.5 ast at +180, and over 4.5 rebs at +160. Yea I'm about to cash out on myself" 😂😂😂
I like lower tier games for betting and higher tier stars for props.
Didnt you say it is only you against the numbers
I wish I knew about this. I would've been fine with just betting and winning a dime
Porter's bro can't buy a rebound! He needs to hit the weightroom or something.
A way to stop this is that prop bets under should only be processed if the player at least plays in the first quarter, and in the last quarter. Otherwise, it should be a push.
The strangest thing about this is that Jontay was showing himself to be a legit player. Like his brother, he worked hard rehabbing his injuries for the last few years, and was starting to really blossom. A 6' 10" guy who can defend and shoot the 3 could potentially make a lot of money over the course of his career. So he really was betting the under ... on his entire career!
This is going to continue to happen. Money talks, and if you can make easy money doing this in a random regular season game, then more than a few guys are going to be doing this at a professional level where it will be hard to catch.
It’s typical MOB practice the pay you in full to do the job. I pay him 500k in return I make 2 million. We both walk away clean. He just one of many but he got caught.
He shouldnt even be listed on the books lol
Tossed away millions for 20K. smh
Just the fact that you can bet on such nonsense - I didn’t even know that. Random stats of a random role player in a single game…
nba is a big business, don't get caught with these kind of things, hope he's innocent.
Calvin Ridley bet on himself I thought
He is a injury prone player on a 2-way contract.
If bettors, with a lot of money to blow, picked up on this, why wouldn't they take their chances?
The betting sites should be the one under investigation for even making props for him.
Ppl wrong for publicizing a trash player as cheating for what, smh Tf make better bets regardless
They have magnets in the ball. Wake up
So what should happen to the baseball player? It's like the Ben Johnson scandal.
he'll be fine
Yeah they’re all sponsored by a sport betting group and because someone doesn’t hit their line and people go under on them now it’s a problem. Yeah it’s all a scam so because they’re losing money now they’re crying about something yet. There’s a lot of stuff going on in the NBA or people are going under on their lines when they shouldn’t be Yet they lost money on someone and now they’re gonna say he’s cheating
If anything Ohtani saved him, both will have to be punished the same and ohtani not getting punished
So only cheating to get Lebron rings is allowed … GOT IT
Betting the UNDER on yourself-is not exactly “Betting on yourself”🙄🤣
Hi, do you have a business email?
Bro finna play for Denver
Banned from the NBA homie
NBA gonna nail him to the cross ⚒️🎚️
If this is true, he'll get ban for life.
Raptors should trade Gary Trent Jr,Gradey Dick, Bruce Brown Jr, Garrett Temple, Jontay Porter, Jakob Poeltl, to the Warriors for Gary Payton Jr, Brandin Podziemski, Andrew Wiggins, Jonathan Kuminga, Usman Garuba,........
How he gets in trouble if people noticed the under & he helps by going out the game & fans assume what the man is naturally trash 🤬 why would he risk more than anybody like his family doing on there own like people are sick 🤢 society is screwed regardless
You said the same ting 50 different ways for the whole video
You sound like such a sport betting shill here.
he definitely is. he gets sponsored by draft kings almost every video
He is. Not willing to criticize how the NBA pushing sports betting is exactly what led to this because he's being paid by them too
Kick him out the league. Bye bye
For gambling?
@@Bergamot88for faking injuries and leaving games early so that he can get the unders
100% at minimum 5 year ban
It's borderline match fixing
Sad. As hard as guys work to get to nba and he does this!
Nba needs to do the right thing and make sports betting illegal again. Nfl as well
The refs should take a polygraph after every game. Gambling can make them richer than the players
That’s only if he was actually betting on himself. There’s a good amount of conjecture in this video.
You can't be serious. You have to be delusional or clueless to think he may not have been betting on himself or telling others to place those bets.
But we’ll still have gambling ads placed literally fucking everywhere including on all my favourite CZcams channels… end game capitalism has made it this way 🚮
Loved this guy thought he could be a really good player for the raptors, sad to see.
He's just a fall out guy, nba is rigged and some players forsure do this
If you trash dont gotta tell ppl to do anything regardless like 🤔
Betting is causing all of these issues and youtuber making money promoting it. Go figure
How stupid. If you're going to do that, at least space the games out. Make it look sporadic...
Yeah just do like 4 games a year and make money
The amount of people in the comments who are somehow too dense to understand why this is completely different than Calvin Ridley (let alone freaking Ja Morant and Josh Giddey) is downright alarming....
One way that the different betting services could stop this from happening would be to eliminate the unders. It is much more difficult to achieve an over and therefore I would definitely make it more difficult for someone to just check out of the game before they reach their stats. Betting services being what they are there's no way that they would do this but they should think about it.😊
isn't the money from unders used to pay for the overs
Or just not have prop bets on guys with short term contracts or are bench players.
I don't think it would necessarily be a lifetime ban. All of the league's seem to handle these things about the same way and the NFL gave Calvin Ridley a one-year suspension. I think that was for just betting on football and perhaps he didn't bet on himself so that could definitely make it a more severe penalty but I think maybe 2 years then.
The important thing though is that the NFL stated they found no games were compromised and that there was no evidence Ridley benefitted off of insider info. If Porter is found guilty, it’s a COMPLETELY different scenario because the allegations against him say he’s doing all of that. A lifetime ban + additional legal action by the NBA would not be surprising in the least
If I see one more person compare this to Calvin Ridley....
This isn't even remotely comparable to Ridley, for a multitude of reasons. Not even slightly similar in any way. This is exponentially worse. I would be shocked if he doesnt get a lifetime ban.
@@BigBoyToys-ce5qg I don't know why people keep saying it. Ridley wasn't found to actually be compromising games hence why he only got a 1 year ban. The evidence in Porter's case is saying he did exactly that. Porter could easily face a lifetime ban + legal prosecution from the NBA and the betting sites he used
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