Compact Cranks Should You Get Them?
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I put a compact on my road bike, on your advice. First ride out on it I did I accomplished a KOM on a notorious climb around here. I ain't ever going back to more rudimentary gearing. Cheers fella.
I've been going on 1km plus elevation rides over 60-100 kms with a triple ring MTB and I pass all the overweight cyclists on roadies. Getting durianriders tips took me from commuting with a 20k as my long ride to collapsing on the side of the road with my shoes off cause I'm so damn tired. Thanks dr
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I used to get dropped with a 50/34 all the time while spinning 100 or 110 rpm. I decided 53/39 with an 11-28 cassette got the job done. I
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Is it worth going to get advice on which bike to choose and get it fitted as my first road bike or should I just buy one online? At the moment looking at the Specialized Allez Sport 2015
Harley have you evre ridden the oval chainring what are your opinion on them thanks
Totally agree with you about this Compact Crank purpose.... i love the Compact system, for my local hills.
This is so true! Wanna climb a real hill or mountain get more gears. Where I live the hills and mountains here are sometimes 50%+ angles so you need some gears for climbing.
HEY DR, do you have to shorten the chain to run compacts? Or will the stock length work ok
Durian! First time poster here for me. My new bike came with 52/36 and I'm a) used to the compact and b) off to the alps soon. Should I swap it out or just slip on an 11-32? The gear size is smaller on the 32 vs the 28? Keep fighting the good fight!
how do you wash your cycling kit? i notice that your use your mt borah kit over and over again.
Btw, i ride a cyclocrosser
46/36 x 11-32
I miss a bit going down, but uphill, perfect.
I don't like close ratio cassettes, toooo much shifting! I like a bit more spacing. Easier to tell which gear is right.
And put some knobbies on the bike and explore where a roadbike can't
DR, you know if xtr 11-40 cassette and rr der 11spd will mate with dura ace 9000 shifters?
What do you recommend change my cassette to 11/32 or change my crankset to 50/34i cant go both due to budget. Im running 11/28 and 52/36 right now. I do mostly climbs from 4%-8% spinning 85rpm -90rpm but everytime i hit the 15% -20% i start grinding. Im 115lbs 5"4ft
Earvin Quero get the compact crank
That's it - booking my bike in to get compact cranks, I want to get up Doi Suthep. Thanks for the advice, DR :) M
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Thanks for all the advice over the past couple of years DR. I'm now running compact with 32 on the back and a stages and I'm ripping all my PR's on the climbs here in England! We don't have anything high or long but we definitely have steep!
Last year I climbed Ventoux on a mountain bike, and Teide in Tenerife on the roadie although only had a 25 then but ran a power meter for pacing and averaged about 70 cadence overall.
I was in Gran Canaria this year when I asked the local bike shop to stick a long cage derailleur and a 32 cassette on to climb Pico Las Nieves which is around 2000m and still only managed average 85 cadence holding about 220 watts over an hour and a half! I think I'll move up to a 34 to get it into the 90's.
Unfortunately won't be able to make the TFF this year but hopefully I'll be able to do some riding in Adelaide some time soon as I have some family there. Hopefully see you on the road!
Hi DR,
I've been watching alot of your videos and I got really inspired on cycling and now run a 50/34 on the front and 11/28 on the back. I also put a garmin to try hit at least 80 cadence but after 40 minutes I'm losing cadence cause my legs still really fatigue quick on the hills. What can I do to improve? Do I really need to get a 11/32 on the back?
I want Dura-ace because it looks the goods and gives me the psychological advantage
Julian Johnstone Full Dura-Ace is bad ass. But I seriously couldn't tell the difference between 105, ultegra, and dura ace when I was riding them around a parking lot. I'm sure 9 months after owning a 105 shifter bike I can notice that difference.. but I doubt it even matters.
New 105! Have you seen how stealth it looks? IMO looks way better and performs just the same!
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I've just looked! Liking the super record rear mech! ;)
Yep, wish I got compact on my bike now. I live in North QLD Australia and yes the only time I need standard gearing is when I'm drafting and racing at 40-50 km/h but harley is right, that's only ever a couple times a month. So I really do struggle on the hills due to not being able to get my cadence up.
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Good advice, I have always had compact on the front but have gone form 11-25 at the back to 12-30. I have really noticed that high cadence have help me going up hills. I almost never get out the seat now.
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Good job!
I rode it with a compact and 28 but needed more gears
I'm using a 53/39 with a 29 on the back. Gets me up almost everything at 90rpm + although for the odd few climbs a compact would help me for sure.
PlantPedaler I got a KOM today and it was 475w @ 96 cadence. I had a 34x34 as my easiest gearing.
PlantPedaler 39-29 at 90+ is a speed of 15.3kph or more; you really can ride that speed at long steep climbs? I'm very impressed...
filmevoncosima must be pro poweroutput like 440W FTP...
filmevoncosima I live in London, no long steep climbs here. Hence why I've held off on getting a compact, most are no longer than 1km so a standard double gets me up "almost everything".
PlantPedaler of course you are right - if you don't climb, you don't need easy gears :-)
me and a mate have just ordered our chris boardman cyclocross bikes,,,, fitness and adventure is our goal,,,,,so thought the stronger but slightly heavier option will suit us so we can venture on and off tarmac :) the slightly wider tyres and clearance, with the ability to hang a saddle rack,,,
Will a 32 casette fit this bike? Or will I need a longer chain, etc?
www.trekbikes.com/us/en/bikes/road/endurance_race/lexa/lexa_compact/#
Thanks for answering the question Harley. Also great hair bro 👍
What do YOU do for road rash?
til pedaling faster makes u go faster
Durian! Ive been doing high cadence (90-100 average) for a while and i find it alright. However at yesterdays race a few people mentioned to me that i spin too much. I normally do crits and road races that usually don't have many hills. Do you still recommend high cadence for flat courses or keep it up at around 100? Ill experiment myself and see if i get any improvements (speed and power wise) but would like your advice :) Thanks
***** Look at the worlds fastest sprinters. Look at the track pursuit and kilo riders. Your mates are old school mentality before STI was invented and you had to grind around cos shifting gears to hold cadence was a pain in the ass/dangerous.
90rpm on the flat it good, shows you have a strong core, not bouncing on the saddle. When I do time trials my average cadence is between 90 and 100.
I just grabbed a 105 group w/out brakes with 50/34 11/28. Gonna be my first time with higher end Shimano. In my 3rd season. Grown to love the sport pretty fast..Also started wrenching my own bikes a year ago and love that just as much. Fucking tools can get expensive lol. Collecting little by little..kinda collect them in a as need basis after the obvious.
Road a 7speed cog with compact double since i started. 11 cogs is gonna be sweet.
Recently purchased a frame/fork and building it up. Much better imo than just buying a complete. I never like the seats and bars etc that completes come with.
It's hard to find a good bike shop..which is the main reason i starting doing my own work and I'm glad. Cycling is awesome.
End of rant haha
It's the truth if your climbing or even for windy conditions compact is just much more versatile. Lets face it all riders that even watch cycling videos are serious cyclists. Serious cyclists all pursue climbing, Hence should all have compact. People that say there to strong and would spin it out are talking out there ass. have ridden compact and it changes the way you ride, No more grinding. I run standard on my bike as it's stock but investing in compact ASAP
elite racing = standard cranks ;) only on longer really steep climbs one needs compact, otherwise 39x28 does the job
why not get the semi-compact? 52/36 gearing? seems like the best of both worlds to me. I have a 52/36 Ultegra Crankset with 165mm crank length on its way now. i opted for 165mm as im pretty short at 1.65m. cant wait to try it out!
lucasliewHEHEHE Ive ridden 52/36 and for me its like getting half deep throat. Whats the point?
Hey Harley. Always enjoy your videos.
I too have become more and more curious about Froome's gearing - shame nobody knows for sure but he seems to def spin faster enough that others that i would think he is on maybe a 34 or 36 on the back. I guess the manufacturer sponsors selling 'road' groupsets don't want the fact published.
I'm 15 and to be pro, how much do I have to train?
Very well put towards the end there,have to agree,like disc brakes more people will be using them,EVILution or evolution some would argue,105 is amazing this year!
pedallin raw Agreed. 2015's 105 is da bomb. I wonder what's next for Ultegra and Dura Ace. 12 speed? Fancier electronics? I mean, where could they possibly go from here
No doubt they are working on that as I type! ;)
Durian Rider,,,,50- 34t front,,,, 11- 32t rear,,, is this good for beginning on my first roadbike? really need to gain some fitness and loose some weight,,,cheers man love your stuff
Thats what he recommends all the time in his vids! You got the right bike 👍
I've just sold my dura ace 53/39 11-25 parts to bank roll new 105 5700 50/34 11-30 kit based on Durianriders suggestions recently. So glad he did this video based on your question PBK.
GREENY GG Awesome! I have 105's and they are really nice. Just glad he chose the question because I saw a friend move to a standard because he said he is already "stronger". So was wondering Harley's opinion since he has more miles on the legs than my friend..
nice my bike is compact; 11-28 for the win
brought the new CF SLX! went for 11-32 compact crank. do u think standard with 11-28 is better instead?
Not every rider benifits from compacts . Yah there good for the right person .
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When I commute to work which is generally flat I find the 50 tooth ring too tall where I find the 34 tooth ring perfect, but find myself using the smaller gears on the 34 most of the time.
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I've gone back to riding my Cannondale Rush MTB as it has the 44 triple with a 11-34 cluster. I find the 44 -11 ideal when on the flats riding to work as the roads in some sections is a bit rough for the road bike. This is when I bog down and have keep changing gears. Over the same distance the road bike is only 90seconds quicker.
42 teeth? How do you install that?
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