Remove gloves will lead to more grappling, but.... Add soccer kicks and knees to a downed opponent; Grappling stalemates solved, fans appeased. Pride was much more exciting.
Kicks and knees to the head of a downed opponent will make the lives of grapplers harder but overall, without the gloves, strikers will be the most affected by it. With those change of rules, suddenly grappling in general and Muay Thai become way more influencial to the MMA world. Boxers like the Diaz brothers are a perfect example of good bareknuckle techniques. Punches in volume , open hand techniques , minimal power in each punch. MMA becomes more grappling and submission oriented, fighters use more their elbows, knees and kicks , ground and pound is less effective . It becomes a safer, more interesting and REALISTIC sport
@@2khub155 that is good, it is safer to suffer a hand injury than a head injury. Smart fighters will not strike with a closed fist and if they do they deserve the hand injury.
He changed his mind and said it’s more brutal lmao. This opinion was so stupid at the time. He was purely talking out his ass but did it so confidently people agreed.
The only reason I disagree with Joe (and I can't believe I'm saying that) is because fights get stopped now if cuts are to bad. You take the gloves off and as he said, create the realm for more facial tearing and cuts, I feel that MMA would adopt the boxing faze. Fights getting stopped early and guys winning by tko due to a cut being to bad. BUT, on the other hand you would get to see many classical pugilist boxers integrate their style in the octagon.
Granted, probably very few people in this comments section will care, but there's been data for years that shows that bare-knuckle *could be safer* than using gloves. Don't just take it from random guy on the internet (me), though. Go look it up. Do some reading.
The Guv'nor Lenny McLean done a programme and it's on You Tube about how the hands won't break with gloves and it causes more damage to the head and brain, and this is a old video when he was saying this, like pre MMA. RIP Lenny.
I always thought the reason they added gloves to these fights is to protect your hand because they were made for intricate task writing, sewing, ect not desighned for smashing into the tuffest parts of the body, so they did this to protect they hand which i was satisfied with but he does bring up some great points so idk
Gloves incentivize punching with maximum force and recklessness. Remove them and the fighters have to rely more on volume punching and open palm techniques. Sure, you'll have more cuts and lacerations because the knuckles are bonyer than the surface of a glove but concussions will become rarer and that's the point, protecting the fighters brains.
You're exactly right, you're just describing the other side of the same coin. Your hands aren't designed for smashing, so when you protect them, they can do way more smashing.
I think rather than bare knuckle, just have gloves with no padding, just a few millimetres of material to stop you cutting your opponent or yourself so much.
I really like the way when she didn't know what he was talking about or meant she asked for an explanation because I was kind of on the same boat. It made Joe expand upon what he was saying and made it clearer for the audience.
I have a signed Tyson/Holyfield photo and if you look closely under light at the right angle you can see a thumb print which is huge. Im sure its one of their thumb prints.
not only to protect the opponent, As far as i know the gloves is actually to protect your own hand, because there are plenty of cartilage there in your fists, and with a constant punching, you'll break them if you wear no protection.
Same thing if you repeatedly strike the ribs or the head they weren't designed for the. The real question is do you want some cool face tattoos and some bloody broken knuckle or severe brain damage
I have a floating little bone chip in my elbow, and that was just from grappling practice on shitty mats, elbow came down in between a gap in the mats on concrete..
everyone's talking about the artem lobov vs jason knight fight being brutal.. i thought the same when i first watched because of how bloody it was... but there hands were pretty much fucked towards the end of the fight and they couldn't get a knockout or throw full power punches. For sure there is going to be more nasty cuts, bruises and broken hands but i think there may be less brain damage. Its a tough one because maybe some fighters prefer to take that extra brain damage than getting there face fucked up. But i think its more dangerous when you can punch your opponent at full power without having to worry about your hands getting injured.. probably much more brain damage..
But do MMA fighters really get that much brain damage? MMA gloves are already a compromise from Boxing gloves, which was where the real head trauma was occurring. I thought they largely fixed that issue.
@@hejalll You'd think so but there's a shit ton of research and doctors who say that there isn't much difference between the two gloves styles in terms of how hard you can hit. They both spread the force out way more than bare hands
The difference between Shins, knuckles, and elbows is that you wont fuck up your elbows or shins if you don't have padding. You don't want fighters with permanently damaged hands within their first few fights. You accidentally punch a forehead or the canvas then say goodbye to your hands hands ever functioning normally. But yeah, the brain damage padding does overtime is SCARY. Just look at Chuck Ledel in some interviews. The guy is zoning out, slurred speech, like he's on the verge of falling asleep the whole interview.
@@angelperez7725 Yes they are. Because the main arguement for no-gloves is a more realistic fight. A more realistic fight would also include kicking and kneeing downed opponents. The only reason Joe Rogan wants no-gloves and no fence is because he wants MMA to turn into one big Jiu Jitsu tournament. You'll never hear Joe talk about allowing that. Grapplers would be going for A LOT less takedowns if they got their head kicked off for every failed takedown...
I fought bare-knuckle for 10 years. It's so much better. You have to have good technique. Gloves are why ground and pound is a thing. You can't ground and pound in a street fight. Well, you can, but only for a second
Idk I've done alot of ground and pound in street fights just more hammerfists involved then in regular ground and pound and you gotta do it right (I'm an amateur traditional boxer and bare knuckle boxing champ in the villages around were I live)
Risk is people would have to use open hand strikes all the time, which would mean fingers "accidentally" ending up in eyes to an even bigger extent than now.
Honestly speaking he's got a good point no wraps and gloves very good chance that less punches are thrown since safety of the wraps is taken away fights may not go on as long with higher risks of breaks
+Emmanueli Adzoh Good luck. If you want to be world champion then stay as humble as you can. Never assume you are good enough. Always find ways to improve your game and train hard even if you get famous.
Clutch Finesse yup if you punch someone on the fore head your knuckle is gonna go, it would make it alot easier to break cheek bones, and cuts would happen so much easier, I mean if you elbow somebody 9/10 it's gonna leave a cut so if every punch is like an elbow it would be a bloody mess
All the fighters are gonna get injured. I really disagree with joe on this. It's riduculous. Repeated hand injuries can ruin someone's ability to fight and their career
The thing is if they were bare knuckle it may end up causing more brain damage because fighters would end up throwing their more dangerous striking limbs (shins, knees, elbows, etc.) more often because those are going to be the strikes that finnish fights now that punches have been nerffed. Nobody is holding back power in throwing head kicks, as they have much less risk of being injured when used for striking. The gloves ballance this out so that fighters will feel as comfortable throwing a punch as they would a kick, and a padded punch will do less damage than a shin (padded or unpadded).
+ian hock Initially, but the punches would be able to land with enough force to be a threat, or at the very least pepper the opponent up for kicks, knees and elbows which would still end up landing with more far more frequency than before. You'd also see a lot more fighters retire due to reoccurring hand and eye injuries. The unpadded hands just can't take the kind of abuse they'd take when fighting becomes a career. But it may just result in better hand conditioning (like those old school karatekas with knuckle callouses that look like they're made of stone), in which case it'd be even more dangerous without gloves. You could also make the case that we should pad up the other striking limbs, as this would reduce their power and make no difference on how often they are thrown (although this could result in headhunting more often due to padded knees and shins not being able to hurt the lower extremities), not to mention it would also make submissions harder to get out of (fighters wearing a gi would help with this as well), both making grappling more action packed and encouraging more fighters to go for subs. Personally I think the only thing that should be made is to make Pride style gloves manditory to reduce eyepokes.
Oh and to answer her question, the pisiform is the hardest bone in the body except for a couple tiny ones in your ear. The pisiform is technically part of the wrist, but it can be used to devastating effect. Sometimes a punch is best, but often a palm-heel is better.. and this is why
If you made it bareknuckle guys wouldn't be able to be as reckless and the volume of punches to the head would drop significantly. Muay Thai would be even more common. Maybe Lethwei would become a preferred style, minus the headbutts ofcourse. I'd rather it honestly. It IS rather odd, that in a sport where you can use every other weapon without padding, that the hands are protected, making the hands a more effective, but less realistic weapon. I see why they did it, it's the same reason they did it in Boxing, so guys can punch more freely without as much fear of breaking their hands, but it is silly imo.
If you don't have gloves nobody Will punch everybody will grapple nobody wants to watch that. It may be great technical fighting, but that is not what brings the money in.
I swear it'll take a handful of rule changes that will revert mma back to a safer vale tudo. Honestly I'd rather watch that than a UFC or Bellator fight.
I like Joe but bare Knuckle is stupid. All the gloves really do is protect the hands. Bareknuckle, the timeline for fighters would shrink massively due to broken and fractured hands left and right.
breaking your elbow is fucking awful. I had a ruck with my dad in my early twenties, did a hip throw on him and followed him to the ground (which was made of ceramic tiles) and went straight down on my right elbow and fractured it. Every time I lent on that arm for the next year I got a shooting pain up my arm, not fun.
I assume he means something like this rather than the bionic ones they are testing now. beta.theglobeandmail.com/life/health-and-fitness/health/successful-retina-transplant-sparks-hope/article21270294/?ref=www.theglobeandmail.com&
I just googled Margarito. In his fight with Pacquiao he suffered a fractured orbital bone from one of Pacquiaos shots. He had two surgeries after the fight. One to fix the fracture and one to fix a cataract caused by the blow. They use an artificial lens to fix a cataract so I assume Joe just got the lens and retina mixed up. Understandable considering torn retinas are a common injury in boxing.
i see what your saying about the fingers and eye pokes however it would be very hard to grapple and sumiisions but you make a good point about the eye pooks
@@Razear those look alot like the amateur sparring gloves the sparring gloves that cover the top side of the fingers with padding but leave the rest of your hand uncovered are great
Did anyone ever wrestle with a guy who is huge and lifts a tremendous amount of weight, maybe triple than you but you can throw him around like nothing with no wrestling experience? I’ll never understand that ever
Video is so old but gloves are for hand protection. There’s ligaments and cartilage in the hand you have to worry about that are far more fragile than the elbows and knees
Thinking gloves make MMA safer is peak "common sense" thinking. Common sense is just instinct, and anybody who's taken a deep dive into any subject quickly learns than instincts can be wrong all the time. Things aren't always the way the seem on the surface. If you want to understand the world, you gotta dive in and get your hands dirty. There's no shortcut.
9:37 Fun example of how subjective common sense is even when it's been developed through experience. So in philosophy, we talk about how situations kind of create their own "ideologies" based on what's practical to your goals. "Ideology" being a way of deciding which facts are worth attention and which aren't. So as a martial artist, my instant common sense response to "what's the hardest part of the body" is "the forehead." But I hesitated, 'cause I realize this is just based on things I've learned in martial arts, and I've never actually dug into it. A little googling says the jaw is actually the "hardest" bone in the body, which is interesting! In my context, that never would've occurred to me, and kinda doesn't matter, because I can't hit anything with my jaw, and it has so much flex in where it's seated that it hardness doesn't come into play when I hit it. I also found out that the femur is probably the strongest bone, which is a different way of thinking about what she *means* when she says the "hardest" part of the body. But I've never had cause to think about that either, because in my context, it's covered in so much muscle, I'd never be able to hit it anyway, and where it's positioned, no joint lock I know would ever have the leverage to affect it even if it was way weaker. (kinda like how armbars sometimes break forearms, but barely even put pressure on the humerus.) So here are two sides of the coin. If your a doctor, the jaw might be the hardest bone in the body. If you're a fighter, the skull is probably the hardest bone in the body. If you're in MMA and you're used to wearing gloves and headbutts being illegal, the shin might be the hardest bone in the body. It's not literally true, but it's true in practice. Not to mention the fact that the average shin bone might be at a different part of the hierarchy for fighters just by virtue of the fact that they condition them, so a fighters shins are harder than they would be otherwise! P.S. Kinda surprised Joe didn't immediately say "the skull" given his roots in old-school jiu-jitsu and MMA. Maybe all this 10th planet stuff he's been doing has made him soft! 😂😉
Annoys the fuck out of me that Joe won't SHUT THE FUCK UP about gloves. He wants people to damage and break their hands a lot more often to the point where they can only fight like 1-2 a year, he has seriously talked about this like 15 times.
When it comes to Lance Armstrong I always think of Bill Burr. "Our roided up guy beat your roided up guy!!" Fucking aye right, Lance Armstrong is a sociopath but it's only on a bicycle not as a Congressman or police officer. Let him pedal away.
If it were bare knuckle, the knockout rate would go down significantly and it would turn into more of a ground based style. Also if you genuinely think it should be bare knuckle, then stop going on about needing to design newer gloves to stop eye injuries. It's either one or the other.
This dude is always saying they should allow bare knuckles and 6 to 12 elbows etc. Easy to say when your sat outside the cage talking and not stepping in the cage and getting your head smashed in...
Whitney: what’s the hardest part of your body
Joe: Roght now??
Remove gloves will lead to more grappling, but....
Add soccer kicks and knees to a downed opponent;
Grappling stalemates solved, fans appeased.
Pride was much more exciting.
Kicks and knees to the head of a downed opponent will make the lives of grapplers harder but overall, without the gloves, strikers will be the most affected by it.
With those change of rules, suddenly grappling in general and Muay Thai become way more influencial to the MMA world. Boxers like the Diaz brothers are a perfect example of good bareknuckle techniques. Punches in volume , open hand techniques , minimal power in each punch.
MMA becomes more grappling and submission oriented, fighters use more their elbows, knees and kicks , ground and pound is less effective . It becomes a safer, more interesting and REALISTIC sport
No gloves and no hand wrappings is the way to go in MMA. Joe has it right.
Have you been watching it? Boring as fuck😂
The only reason they don’t do it I believe is bc fighter would suffer hand injuries almost every match.
@@2khub155 that is good, it is safer to suffer a hand injury than a head injury. Smart fighters will not strike with a closed fist and if they do they deserve the hand injury.
He changed his mind and said it’s more brutal lmao. This opinion was so stupid at the time. He was purely talking out his ass but did it so confidently people agreed.
It's to protect the hands, not the heads.
And if it hurts your hand to hit someone you won’t hit as hard, thus protecting your hand and your opponent’s head.
...aren't gloves rules in place to protect the fighters hands??...Joe??.....
Yea he's an adult
Yeah that's the problem you can hit someone so much harder because your hands are protected
@@garbageparade5144 and more often!
We should protect the fighter’s heads, not the fighter’s hands. Get rid of gloves and hand wraps to make the sport safer.
The only reason I disagree with Joe (and I can't believe I'm saying that) is because fights get stopped now if cuts are to bad. You take the gloves off and as he said, create the realm for more facial tearing and cuts, I feel that MMA would adopt the boxing faze. Fights getting stopped early and guys winning by tko due to a cut being to bad. BUT, on the other hand you would get to see many classical pugilist boxers integrate their style in the octagon.
Granted, probably very few people in this comments section will care, but there's been data for years that shows that bare-knuckle *could be safer* than using gloves. Don't just take it from random guy on the internet (me), though. Go look it up. Do some reading.
Either give the links yourself or fuck off.
SMAV Emerson
spoon-feed the fuckin morans.
and then spoon-fuck 'em.
well if u remember old ufc rules, if you wore shoes you werent allowed to kick, same principle
Onii-sama how? That’s fascinating
The Guv'nor Lenny McLean done a programme and it's on You Tube about how the hands won't break with gloves and it causes more damage to the head and brain, and this is a old video when he was saying this, like pre MMA. RIP Lenny.
Rogan is a bareback kind of guy. Bravo.
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I always thought the reason they added gloves to these fights is to protect your hand because they were made for intricate task writing, sewing, ect not desighned for smashing into the tuffest parts of the body, so they did this to protect they hand which i was satisfied with but he does bring up some great points so idk
Gloves incentivize punching with maximum force and recklessness.
Remove them and the fighters have to rely more on volume punching and open palm techniques. Sure, you'll have more cuts and lacerations because the knuckles are bonyer than the surface of a glove but concussions will become rarer and that's the point, protecting the fighters brains.
You're exactly right, you're just describing the other side of the same coin. Your hands aren't designed for smashing, so when you protect them, they can do way more smashing.
I think rather than bare knuckle, just have gloves with no padding, just a few millimetres of material to stop you cutting your opponent or yourself so much.
I agree with Joe here, if you ever try old school bare knuckle boxing you will se how big the difference is compared to using gloves.
"You can hit someone with your shin!" ... Whitney: "It's a razor blade!"
James ITS A BASEBALL BAT
Keep those eyes up Joe.
Joe’s favorite interview is when his guest interviews him
I really like the way when she didn't know what he was talking about or meant she asked for an explanation because I was kind of on the same boat. It made Joe expand upon what he was saying and made it clearer for the audience.
Bareknuckle would make fighters blind...imagine a straight bareknuckle punch to the eye...it would definitely fuck your eye up
That is how the UFC was in the first couple of events. Look up UFC fights from 1-10.
idk man, even though your eye might hurt, there might even be some small permanent damage your eye will be fine in the end.
I have a signed Tyson/Holyfield photo and if you look closely under light at the right angle you can see a thumb print which is huge. Im sure its one of their thumb prints.
Probably Holyfield’s
6:51 you're welcome
they should fight completely naked anything goes.... number one sport on the planet by 2020...garens ball bearins
First one to get penetrated loses
not only to protect the opponent, As far as i know the gloves is actually to protect your own hand, because there are plenty of cartilage there in your fists, and with a constant punching, you'll break them if you wear no protection.
Same thing if you repeatedly strike the ribs or the head they weren't designed for the. The real question is do you want some cool face tattoos and some bloody broken knuckle or severe brain damage
I have a floating little bone chip in my elbow, and that was just from grappling practice on shitty mats, elbow came down in between a gap in the mats on concrete..
Why is joe talkin to this chick about mma? Love how she pretends to actually understand what joe is saying. . Ya ya. Lol
everyone's talking about the artem lobov vs jason knight fight being brutal.. i thought the same when i first watched because of how bloody it was... but there hands were pretty much fucked towards the end of the fight and they couldn't get a knockout or throw full power punches.
For sure there is going to be more nasty cuts, bruises and broken hands but i think there may be less brain damage. Its a tough one because maybe some fighters prefer to take that extra brain damage than getting there face fucked up. But i think its more dangerous when you can punch your opponent at full power without having to worry about your hands getting injured.. probably much more brain damage..
But do MMA fighters really get that much brain damage?
MMA gloves are already a compromise from Boxing gloves, which was where the real head trauma was occurring. I thought they largely fixed that issue.
@@hejalll You'd think so but there's a shit ton of research and doctors who say that there isn't much difference between the two gloves styles in terms of how hard you can hit. They both spread the force out way more than bare hands
Thank John McCain for the gloves
The difference between Shins, knuckles, and elbows is that you wont fuck up your elbows or shins if you don't have padding. You don't want fighters with permanently damaged hands within their first few fights. You accidentally punch a forehead or the canvas then say goodbye to your hands hands ever functioning normally. But yeah, the brain damage padding does overtime is SCARY. Just look at Chuck Ledel in some interviews. The guy is zoning out, slurred speech, like he's on the verge of falling asleep the whole interview.
Then don’t punch as often. Problem solved
@@angelperez7725 Ok. Then allow fighters to soccer kick grapplers in the head, get rid of downed opponents. jUsT dOn'T mIss a TaKeDoWn.
@@Bowfella those two things are not even equivalent
@@angelperez7725 Yes they are. Because the main arguement for no-gloves is a more realistic fight. A more realistic fight would also include kicking and kneeing downed opponents. The only reason Joe Rogan wants no-gloves and no fence is because he wants MMA to turn into one big Jiu Jitsu tournament. You'll never hear Joe talk about allowing that. Grapplers would be going for A LOT less takedowns if they got their head kicked off for every failed takedown...
@@Bowfella kicking a downed persons head could kill someone. Removing gloves won’t
After seeing the results on Artem and Jason's faces I'm not too sure...
7:24 uhhhh what did she just say?
Lmfaooooo
Cum!
I fought bare-knuckle for 10 years. It's so much better. You have to have good technique. Gloves are why ground and pound is a thing. You can't ground and pound in a street fight. Well, you can, but only for a second
Idk I've done alot of ground and pound in street fights just more hammerfists involved then in regular ground and pound and you gotta do it right (I'm an amateur traditional boxer and bare knuckle boxing champ in the villages around were I live)
Old school pre-Tank Abbott UFC.
i like the part where joe says "people with no idea are gonna weigh in" while talking to someone with no idea weighing in.
Her last words " That's not great " are absolutely hilarious
Risk is people would have to use open hand strikes all the time, which would mean fingers "accidentally" ending up in eyes to an even bigger extent than now.
Joe's got that " lower my sexy voice at you" and gentle Ben talk going on with this lady.
Honestly speaking he's got a good point no wraps and gloves very good chance that less punches are thrown since safety of the wraps is taken away fights may not go on as long with higher risks of breaks
no it shouldn't, every fighter would break their hands
Better than brain damage
That's not entirely true. Most likely dudes would go back to the open palm heel strikes like it was done in the pancrase days.
It would just change the game. Head strikes would be risky. Lots more uppercuts, overhand rights would all but disappear.
na, you just train and strengthen hands !
+Emmanueli Adzoh
Good luck. If you want to be world champion then stay as humble as you can. Never assume you are good enough. Always find ways to improve your game and train hard even if you get famous.
YYYEAAAH. WOW. YYEEAHHH. WOW. YEEEAH. WOW.
I CANT STOP THINKING ABOUT SCHOOL ROLE CALL .. AT 18 ... CUMMINGS... WHITNEY ?
What if fighters just do like in some karate styles where they train to thicken their knuckles?
Leads to Cartilage damage and arthritis
If it was bare knuckle no fight would go the distance
why do you think that? it would actually be the opposite imo
Alwaysnumberr 1 people might break their knuckles too
Clutch Finesse yup if you punch someone on the fore head your knuckle is gonna go, it would make it alot easier to break cheek bones, and cuts would happen so much easier, I mean if you elbow somebody 9/10 it's gonna leave a cut so if every punch is like an elbow it would be a bloody mess
All the fighters are gonna get injured. I really disagree with joe on this. It's riduculous. Repeated hand injuries can ruin someone's ability to fight and their career
Andrew Gallagher naa. everyone knows that though. youll see less head punches and alot more palm strikes and grappling
Gloves are for hand protection not for doing less damage
The thing is if they were bare knuckle it may end up causing more brain damage because fighters would end up throwing their more dangerous striking limbs (shins, knees, elbows, etc.) more often because those are going to be the strikes that finnish fights now that punches have been nerffed. Nobody is holding back power in throwing head kicks, as they have much less risk of being injured when used for striking. The gloves ballance this out so that fighters will feel as comfortable throwing a punch as they would a kick, and a padded punch will do less damage than a shin (padded or unpadded).
+ian hock Initially, but the punches would be able to land with enough force to be a threat, or at the very least pepper the opponent up for kicks, knees and elbows which would still end up landing with more far more frequency than before. You'd also see a lot more fighters retire due to reoccurring hand and eye injuries. The unpadded hands just can't take the kind of abuse they'd take when fighting becomes a career.
But it may just result in better hand conditioning (like those old school karatekas with knuckle callouses that look like they're made of stone), in which case it'd be even more dangerous without gloves.
You could also make the case that we should pad up the other striking limbs, as this would reduce their power and make no difference on how often they are thrown (although this could result in headhunting more often due to padded knees and shins not being able to hurt the lower extremities), not to mention it would also make submissions harder to get out of (fighters wearing a gi would help with this as well), both making grappling more action packed and encouraging more fighters to go for subs.
Personally I think the only thing that should be made is to make Pride style gloves manditory to reduce eyepokes.
Oh and to answer her question, the pisiform is the hardest bone in the body except for a couple tiny ones in your ear. The pisiform is technically part of the wrist, but it can be used to devastating effect. Sometimes a punch is best, but often a palm-heel is better.. and this is why
anybody know what kind of shirt joe is rocking?
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This_Multiverse
it's not a shirt it's a spidey outfit but without the spidey paint.
And I'm not gay.
It's a sort of 1800's peasant shirt
If you made it bareknuckle guys wouldn't be able to be as reckless and the volume of punches to the head would drop significantly. Muay Thai would be even more common. Maybe Lethwei would become a preferred style, minus the headbutts ofcourse. I'd rather it honestly. It IS rather odd, that in a sport where you can use every other weapon without padding, that the hands are protected, making the hands a more effective, but less realistic weapon. I see why they did it, it's the same reason they did it in Boxing, so guys can punch more freely without as much fear of breaking their hands, but it is silly imo.
I think it would be an interesting experiment, to see how the fighters adapted. Luke Rockhold would probably murder everyone.
If you wana fight bareknuckled there are Kyokushin tournaments as well as Shidokan tournaments which allow grappling so closes to bare knuckled MMA
The heel is the hardest part of the body...
Gloves are there to protect the fighter's hands not the other fighter's face. Dummy!
Exactly! Cant believe joe out of all people doesnt know this
@@kevinarevalo5764 can you believe that he actually said that you jackass
Geeeeeez!
Lenny McLean RIP said it best when he said that the Queensbury rules has probably killed more men than saved.
Can you give me the Exact quote or the video where he said that?? Seems like a thing Guv'nor would say.
F*** it they should just make it a full-contact Kumite.
Yeah fuck it that means less people would want to fight and less brain injuries since there are less people to be injured
It's so funny when he cusses
I agree that gloves in maa are dangerous. the hand is the fight's limiting factor.
Bare Knuckle? No fighter would last... Street fights are 3mins or less. In Competitive fighting, the gloves protect the fighter, along with wraps.
If you don't have gloves nobody Will punch everybody will grapple nobody wants to watch that. It may be great technical fighting, but that is not what brings the money in.
I swear it'll take a handful of rule changes that will revert mma back to a safer vale tudo. Honestly I'd rather watch that than a UFC or Bellator fight.
Gloves are to protect your hands, not to protect your opponents head.
I like Joe but bare Knuckle is stupid. All the gloves really do is protect the hands. Bareknuckle, the timeline for fighters would shrink massively due to broken and fractured hands left and right.
Then he saw what happens to people’s faces in BKFC and started to rethink his position.
breaking your elbow is fucking awful. I had a ruck with my dad in my early twenties, did a hip throw on him and followed him to the ground (which was made of ceramic tiles) and went straight down on my right elbow and fractured it. Every time I lent on that arm for the next year I got a shooting pain up my arm, not fun.
Artificial retina? I don't think that's a thing Joe. At least not yet.
I assume he means something like this rather than the bionic ones they are testing now.
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I just googled Margarito. In his fight with Pacquiao he suffered a fractured orbital bone from one of Pacquiaos shots. He had two surgeries after the fight. One to fix the fracture and one to fix a cataract caused by the blow. They use an artificial lens to fix a cataract so I assume Joe just got the lens and retina mixed up. Understandable considering torn retinas are a common injury in boxing.
3:50 that was Cotto who messed up Margarito's retina
yes, go bareknuckle - then open hand strikes like bas Rutten used o do will be the norm
6:51
Joe is looking more stalone as he gets older
The gloves are to save your hands from being fucked up...not to protect the faces.
didnt he promote pride gloves so there would be less eyepokes? bare knuckle fight would do the opposite
"What's the hardest part of your body?"
Your teeth
My dick
Nah they get knocked out
Ask her out already, joe!
06:52
The big guy vs little guy is usually interesting.
Joe please can you tell Dana to make UFC bareknuckle before it falls apart. UFC needs to go this route.
Hell no
I'd say give the fighters pride gloves instead
It's because every fighter's hands would break without gloves. Also, they need to revamp the UFC gloves to cover the fingers to minimize eye pokes.
i see what your saying about the fingers and eye pokes however it would be very hard to grapple and sumiisions but you make a good point about the eye pooks
Pride gloves had covering extended to the fingers: i485.photobucket.com/albums/rr217/luv2p8bal/DSC041360002.jpg~original
@@Razear those look alot like the amateur sparring gloves the sparring gloves that cover the top side of the fingers with padding but leave the rest of your hand uncovered are great
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I think the heal is the hardest. .oh, wait a minute. let me ask miss Cummings. .
Did anyone ever wrestle with a guy who is huge and lifts a tremendous amount of weight, maybe triple than you but you can throw him around like nothing with no wrestling experience? I’ll never understand that ever
No one would watch if almost every fight was a ground fight. That's why
I love how no one acknowledged Whitney roasting the fuck out of Floyd Mayweather at 7:20
Video is so old but gloves are for hand protection. There’s ligaments and cartilage in the hand you have to worry about that are far more fragile than the elbows and knees
Thinking gloves make MMA safer is peak "common sense" thinking. Common sense is just instinct, and anybody who's taken a deep dive into any subject quickly learns than instincts can be wrong all the time. Things aren't always the way the seem on the surface. If you want to understand the world, you gotta dive in and get your hands dirty. There's no shortcut.
9:37 Fun example of how subjective common sense is even when it's been developed through experience. So in philosophy, we talk about how situations kind of create their own "ideologies" based on what's practical to your goals. "Ideology" being a way of deciding which facts are worth attention and which aren't. So as a martial artist, my instant common sense response to "what's the hardest part of the body" is "the forehead."
But I hesitated, 'cause I realize this is just based on things I've learned in martial arts, and I've never actually dug into it. A little googling says the jaw is actually the "hardest" bone in the body, which is interesting! In my context, that never would've occurred to me, and kinda doesn't matter, because I can't hit anything with my jaw, and it has so much flex in where it's seated that it hardness doesn't come into play when I hit it.
I also found out that the femur is probably the strongest bone, which is a different way of thinking about what she *means* when she says the "hardest" part of the body. But I've never had cause to think about that either, because in my context, it's covered in so much muscle, I'd never be able to hit it anyway, and where it's positioned, no joint lock I know would ever have the leverage to affect it even if it was way weaker. (kinda like how armbars sometimes break forearms, but barely even put pressure on the humerus.)
So here are two sides of the coin. If your a doctor, the jaw might be the hardest bone in the body. If you're a fighter, the skull is probably the hardest bone in the body. If you're in MMA and you're used to wearing gloves and headbutts being illegal, the shin might be the hardest bone in the body. It's not literally true, but it's true in practice.
Not to mention the fact that the average shin bone might be at a different part of the hierarchy for fighters just by virtue of the fact that they condition them, so a fighters shins are harder than they would be otherwise!
P.S. Kinda surprised Joe didn't immediately say "the skull" given his roots in old-school jiu-jitsu and MMA. Maybe all this 10th planet stuff he's been doing has made him soft! 😂😉
Bare knuckle should be philipae
Annoys the fuck out of me that Joe won't SHUT THE FUCK UP about gloves. He wants people to damage and break their hands a lot more often to the point where they can only fight like 1-2 a year, he has seriously talked about this like 15 times.
When it comes to Lance Armstrong I always think of Bill Burr. "Our roided up guy beat your roided up guy!!" Fucking aye right, Lance Armstrong is a sociopath but it's only on a bicycle not as a Congressman or police officer. Let him pedal away.
Joe knows his shit😀👊👊
As much as i would love it, it would be would be so bad health wise for the sport
I love this woman not many chicks are able to hold down a conversation like this
that's why i stay at home and play football i mean soccer
Gloves and handwraps allow fighters to tee off and spam full power punches that they would not throw if their hands were not protected.
It's a matter of the hand being a bunch of tiny fragile bones. Look up "boxers fracture "
Joe needs to change his variety bad cough 😃😎 Great work by the camera man. Whitney could be the perfect woman if she maintains her interest in mma
Anyone who has ever had their hands wrapped properly knows how much more damage you can do with hand wraps and weighted gloves. Its undeniable.
Sean Bailey how do you do more damage with gloves on? Serious question btw since I've never done it before
xPsycho4u because there's more mass, and also since your hands are protected you can use more power without worrying
Boxing would become next to nonexistent, we'd lose some of the best knockouts, and some of the most exciting fighters. This is a terrible idea imo
He says that they could keep it in boxing
If it were bare knuckle, the knockout rate would go down significantly and it would turn into more of a ground based style. Also if you genuinely think it should be bare knuckle, then stop going on about needing to design newer gloves to stop eye injuries. It's either one or the other.
I think the gloves are to protect the puncher from teeth cutting into you badly. Perhaps some very thin gloves just enough to prevent cuts.
Yeah. Aha yeah yep yeah aha like dam girl it's ok be be silent for a moment not every thing he is saying needed a response or a grunt
It should be bare nuckle. Or put protection on elbows, knees, and legs
This dude is always saying they should allow bare knuckles and 6 to 12 elbows etc. Easy to say when your sat outside the cage talking and not stepping in the cage and getting your head smashed in...
Damn Whitney
Maybe armchair quarterback Joe, can set example by getting inside cage on next UFC- I mean, his kicks have destroyed many punching bags...