@@surfingtothestars it would be visual entertaining and the mma guys would be down cause they're gnarly. But damn as a bmx racer and not even a fighter I couldnt imagine soccer kicking someone's head man it would be scary
The scariest thing to see for me happened in PeeWee football in 5th grade. The coach's son was the all star QB and we all looked up to him. He seemed damn near invincible. Then one game he got tackled into a sea of other kids and when everyone cleared out he was just laying there. His neck had snapped. He was paralyzed from basically where the solar plectrum is downwards and has to be in a wheelchair for the rest of his life before he made it to high school. A lot of our teammates had this QB complex of it didn't matter who they were they were the new king and this paralyzed kid was basically abandoned throughout high school. I spent every day with him though. He always joked that if he was never paralyzed how else would he get a physique like Johnny Bravo lol. Hope you're doing well, Travis. Love ya bud.
jake hey I don’t really care if there is head butting in MMA, I just found it funny that Joe contradicted himself. You can’t argue that football is dangerous because there are a substantial amount of head collisions then proceed to question why head butting is illegal in MMA. I dot really care much I just found it funny
MMA is safer than boxing. The damage is more spread out on your body like your legs. as opposed to having all the damage on your ribs and head. Also The fights are drastically shorter to 15-25 minute vs 36 minute fights.
@@MichaelP-ke1tm He's not saying it isn't NOT dangerous; it obviously is. But the argument being made is that the way MMA fighters end up fighting is more nuanced, with chokeholds, armbars and other submissions and defensive strategies that makes you somewhat less suseptible to deadly brain trauma.
Most UFC fighters take home less than a burger chain manager after gym fees, management, coaching and staffing training camps. It’s kind of amazing how little they actually make.
@@lt.boinks992 I thought fighters were paid to train once you get a big fight. Either way the UFC are cocksuckers for the level of greed they show. But also It is a young business and it may just be trying to ensure it is here to stay at the top.
@@AJHoltzclaw you don't hear about mma deaths. Boxing is the bigger sport so you hear about it. Dude dies from mma literally a day before the askren Masvidal fight and nobody even mentioned it. When mma gets bigger you will start hearing about it.
One of the reasons mma is safer than boxing is because in mma, if you get stunned and knocked down, your opponent can go ahead and finish you and end the fight, in boxing, the ref will give the boxer a chance to recover and continue the fight, and of course the boxer being stubborn, would still continue even if his body's giving up.
Myth myth. The why boxing is dangerous because they know how throw punches better. When you get dropped you most likely get dropped again or get finished while showing signs of not being able to defend yourself. MMA can get stunned fall on the floor roll in in a ball and get hit with a couple of hammer punches. When you watch the reply most of the hammer punches have been blocked by the gloves. The reff just jumps in and stops the fight giving the MMA fighter a easy way out of the fight. Then you have MMA make face "he got me" not even really knocked out. Some of course get knocked out cold.
@Luis Bolanos yeah if that was the case then boxers wouldn't need so many limitations to allow them to fight. MMA is closer to "real fighting". Boxing is much more so a 'sport', as it's literally only testing striking and specifically striking with hands and _specifically_ in standing positions around a metre away from the other fighter. Edit: because people think im not saying boxing is dangerous. Boxing is definitely very dangerous - it's a concussion roundhouse for sure. The comment i was replying to was calling MMA a sport and boxing real fighting but it's since been deleted. I'm aware boxing is dangerous, thanks
The damage in MMA goes to your face, body, legs etc. But in boxing the main damage influences your brain. Plus in mma you can't hit as hard as you can, you basically gonna break your arms.. but in boxing you don't care for your arms and punch to punch as much as you can
@@frankie6890 What has that have to do with repeatedly being punched to the head in a boxing bout ?, getting hit hard to the head repeatedly sometimes 500 times. That's why boxers die in boxing and MMA guys don't as MMA Guys are being hit everywhere. Its Quite obvious that is what caused the brain damage. Of course bones break etc etc more in MMA , but one kick to the head is not going to systematically give a fighter brain damage.
@@frankie6890 That one full power headkick if it lands (and its not THAT common) will very likely KO the person it hits and end the fight within seconds. Punches in boxing gloves are repeated sustained hits that arent enough to flash KO you but will bounce your brain around in your skull dozens and dozens of times in a fight. Even if you get rocked and dropped you still get the standing count meaning you'll probably be back up for more punishment.
Justin Ejimah are u kidding me ? 🤣😂 ufc fighters get paid penny’s on the dollar 😂 more like joe rogan made Yoel Romero’s net worth in one episode of fear factor 🤣😂
Justin Ejimah whole net worth? 😂 If you believe that your a silly twat haha.. Yoel is yet to receive 60pc of a 26M... Joe makes $100k+ per podcast his supplement company, his Netflix contract he makes more than yoel just commentating
The first point he made is actually true. Look at rugby. They completely play a different way. I actually had a football coach in high school who was also a rugby coach and he was asked that exact question " isn't it worse to basically play football but without pads" and his response was "people tackle and move in a different way because they subconsciously know that safety isn't there." The padding seems to cause more damage as it changes they way you play.
Statistics show that boxer's have to rely on their defense if not they will live a hard life in the future. MMA well head kicks, bones broken, man they're both dangerous!
Nah there are MMA deaths but there are only around 7 compared to way more in boxing however MMA is a lot newer support so we haven’t really got into the time phase where we will be Able to see fighters getting CTE
@@mushy6605 Not sure that has to do with young MMA is. For how young it is, MMA as a sport is lucky to have coincided with the advancement of sports science where nutrition, conditioning and overall efficiency has such a high focus and is the best it's ever been across most sports.
shunsuke max nah I hate this bs they’re have been well over 500 boxing deaths since the 1950s and people like you are like well idk theirs been zero ufc deaths and only around 8 or so mma deaths so I’m waiting for this proof
In high school, I had friends who would get concussions and the next day, they show up to practice and act like they’re hung over. They loved the game so much
MMA is way safer don’t get hit as much as a boxer if you add up all the punches landed in total a boxer gets hit most of the time over 500 punches MMA is a few punches and more wrestling
“Skull drills”. That’s lining up across from another guy and ramming your heads into each other over and over again. That’s just one of the insane things I remember doing in football practice in high school.
MMA ur more likely to break ur arm or tear an ACL but Boxing ur gonna suffer life long brain trauma with the repeated blows. Gloves allow u to punch harder and longer by protecting ur hands and reducing cuts and the striking zone is very small ur either being hit in ur head or internal organs.
Alex Tafoya defense fighters fighters know the risk I analyze boxing from head to toe it’s the type fighting that will depend on your future come prepared and be defensively responsible and your brain will be okay
@some random guy NFL players don't play rugby because the top players in the NFL make 20 times as much as the top rugby players. It's rugby players that are trying to weasel their way into the NFL so they can try to be a mid-tier player at best and make twice as much as they ever could playing rugby.
some random guy they tested the impacts and tested speeds of actual players from both sports. I wasn’t saying one was tougher than the other I was stating the pads make the impact 4x greater then rugby. It’s proven with facts not feelings of biases on a sport
The pads make the impact harder but the defenders are also wearing pads which protects them. Gotta give the full story when you're quoting "science". And as for rugby players not being fit enough, that's rich coming from a sport that needs to take a break every 2 minutes and has a bench of attackers and defenders. Rugby players run the full 80 without taking turns on offense/defense.
Sol Kim czcams.com/video/W7tGY-VDx3o/video.html Go look for yourself. It is science? They had a question performed a controlled test. Got results. Tried it other ways got the same results which then they gave us the results. You’re getting very defensive about your sport. Ya rugby players can’t play American football just like American football players can’t play rugby they are completely different sports but with the pads, extra weight, faster athletes. Equals way more force impact.
Bit off topic, but uhm @Tanner Cox a 5mph vs a 30mph crash isn't 4x harder, impact force doesn't work lineary. Using the omnicalculator online a 30mph crash results in +- 157.4kN of force, with a 229g deceleration and a 'feel' of being hit with something weighing 16.04t. The crash with 5mph gives and impact force of ONLY 4.37kN, a deceleration of ONLY 6g and a feel of getting hit by something weighing 0.446t. You might want to reevaluate your previous statement. www.omnicalculator.com/physics/car-crash-force
@@user-wx2ej1rf1q calling boxing garbage tells that ur a moron. Mma is 50% bullcrap you go down once and its over. Boxer are tougher and in more danger.
Adam Coburn said literally everyone outside of america. Completely separate to the merits of the sports, because i play neither, rugby is clearly far more physically demanding than american football.
A friend of mine died from having a concussion and playing on in the rugby match it was heartnrraking and preventable. I stoped playing for my club and only played for the school as the size and level of competition was smaller.then I stoped becuase of the risk.i started mm and boxing after and I got injured way more as a rugby player than a boxer or doing mma training. The force and size of a large rugby player smashing into you in my opinion isnt comparative to a bunch or a kick
I coach HS football, I really think taking away the helmet or transitioning to a much smaller helmet would be the best situation. Right now, most teams are teaching rugby style tackling which completely takes the head out of the tackle, no need for it. The NFL just put an emphasis on penalizing/fining more OL/DL for initiating contact with the helmet. The game is being adjusted so that you can't use the helmet which is a great thing. Now think about some of the greatest NFL/NCAA Football plays you have ever seen, how many involved a head to head collision? None right? Maybe a couple? We don't need the head to head contact in the game, it can be played without it.
I watched a buddy of mine, who was a former pro soccer player, headbutt a guy unconscious in a bar fight lol. He grabbed the guy by the ears and just slammed the top of his head into the guys face. It was BRUTAL. That wet thud sound is bone chilling.
@@danesesse that's what i thought, football is every week, and that's pretty stupid for people being concussed every game.. Mma have rules how long you have to lay off after you get finished or ko'd
Ever since CTE blew up with the NFL i was always shocked that boxing and MMA wasn't brought to the forefront and put on the hotseat. This is the first time ive ever even heard someone say anything about CTE in Boxing\ MMA.
The reason why is because people sort of knew about CTE in boxing, not such much the in depth medical science behind it, but boxers/fighters were always becoming punch drunk. That in itself steered alot of parents away from allowing their kids to box/fight. Where as in NFL it basically was assumed a "safe" sport with all of its padding and protection, so lots of parents actively encouraged their children into the sport without any knowledge of very possible brain injuries.
i played through 3 concussions through my highschool football career i got them all through hitting not getting hit. i also played through a minor right knee sprain as running back/linebacker in middle school for our last 2 games. Ironman football literally my team had 13 players and i was one of the top 3-4. Im not saying this to flex btw i regret it and my coach encouraged it. to make it worse the last 2 games both teams had 20+ players and were getting rested. I got away with headhunting the whole duration of 6th-11th grade and the coaches loved it and even some opposing players would respect it. needless to say i definitely not a football advocate anymore especially with how politicized sports have become
I watched my friend hut a giy so hard he fell over and started doing the Antonio brown with his fingers, his coaches picked him up, slapped him on the helmet, and sent him back out there.
When i played football in high school I got a concussion and couldn’t smell shit, couldn’t hear out of my right ear and my coach just told me it would be better in a few days, and I finished the rest of practice and played first string tight end the next day. I knew something wasn’t right with my head but my coach said it was normal so i sucked it up..
Old comment, but still….. that’s stupid. I’m all in favor of being tough and pushing through pain and discomfort, but doing something that can result in permanent damage, for no reason other than practice, is stupid. Injuries like that may never fully heal. And they need to be taken more seriously. And all of this over high school football? It’s a game. Simple as that. It isn’t worth damaging your brain over.
People don’t seem to get that 16 ounce gloves coming from a boxer more than likely hurts more than mma fighters with no gloves (coming from a martial artist btw) boxers tend to have more upper body speed and strength
Kyle Clancy that’s a relatively new thing being taught with heads up football and the rugby tackle. Back about 20 years ago it was not uncommon to see a safety spear a defenseless receiver in the side of the head. Now that would be an immediate ejection in most levels of football
I have played both football and rugby and trust me that rugby is much more safer sport than football first of all the tackling is much safer and there are specific type of techniques people use to tackle where in every case is attacking the lower body or legs and anything high in rugby is always gonna be called by the ref, wheras in football u can basically tackle any way u want although using your helmet is illegal the reality it only causes more concussions and more head to head contact, also you have to take into consideration blocking , in football people ram into one another for just blocks in rugby there is no blocking, blocking is probably another major reason football is even more dangerous because in a lot of cases you have o linemen , fullbacks big guys who are usually 250lbs plus run as fast as possible to knock u on ur ass.. and A lot of the time they charge at u using there helmet as a weapon or they lower there helmet once they get close to u
I know that there is also an aspect of Muay Thai that teaches to lean in to the opponent's punch with their forehead to avoid getting hit in the soft tissue like the nose or eyes. This gives people the impression that Muay Thai fighters are really tough but it is just a trick. I must say though this makes Muay Thai fighters mentally tough, teaching them to go against their basic instinct of retreating from danger.
I'm an amateur mma fighter. Last fight I got ko'd from a headkick, and had a mild concussion. I've been training and competing for 4 years and that was my first defeat, and first real brain injury. I see my neurologist every other year. My shit is fine lol.
Mario Alvarez I’ve broken bones plenty of times in my hands and honestly it’s more of a nagging pain then agonizing, I doubt with the punishment they take a finger lock of any sort would make them tap
@@rdmwwhite3866 i would have to slightly burn my hand just to transfer the receptors from my index and pinky . and i was in agony for 3 broken ribs for about 3 weeks
Boxing is incredibly more dangerous. The fighters hit harder, the entire fight is your vital organs being attacked, if you get knocked down, you get back up and continue the fight.
The boxers don’t hit harder lol. A leg kick is a lot more powerful than any punch. Not to mention Ngannou holds the record for he hardest punch ever recorded .
The football helmet point is actually pretty reasonable I’ve played football and rugby for five years and have been concussed multiple times in football but never in rugby
I would say that Boxing might be a bit worse...WHY? Because in MMA there are many ways to defeat an opponent, that don't include a K.O. i.e. submissions, chokes, where Boxing you are always going for the K.O. (to head)
What is that logic?! In mma you can knock out but also break bones and choke people out, the gloves are much harder, just look at the aftermath of boxing fights vs ufc fights. It clear which does more damage. Now for the brain trauma, getting a leg kick or elbow to the head or face is worse than getting a 14 or 10 ounce glove tot he face. Its a fact, its bone on bone.
@@tkdamusicman Yeah you probably right, I think the thicker gloves causes more rattle of the brain on impact, leading to more brain damage (rather than your bone/skull being damaged)
The most skilled fighters are boxers the only reason people revert to using anything else besides punching is when there losing Or have less confidence in there hands a wrestler can’t run up on a boxer and just go for there legs he’s gonna catch multiple uppercuts and hooks your also not just gonna kick a boxer in the head 😂 a kick is easier to see coming then a punch and do course I’m not talking about scenarios where it’s like the best martial artist/wrestler in the world vs some okay boxer but put the best boxer up from whatever weight group up against the top wrestler/martial artist from the same weight group the boxer is winning those fights wrestling and kicking are good to use if you know your not an expert puncher it’s good to be well rounded but if your an elite boxer that’s all you need
Much more dangerous. Sparring more often, bigger gloves allow you to keep punching and not hurt your fist. You get hit more to the head in boxing and if you get knocked down, you can just come back up during the count.
Headbutt isn't the best weapon to KO someone, and it's risky in many ways. I've watch many Lethwei fights live, but I've never seen a headbutt KO. But, it is a useful tool in clinch, and also a good equalizer for someone with height/reach disadvantage.
Gotta remember a good majority of college football players can't even read or write so basically they're a cash cow for college's seeking that Natty and professional teams looking just to fill seats.
They dont play like that in rugby though, they tackle with actual technique to prevent damage. Ive never even played rugby but i still know always tackle with your head up otherwise hf in the emergency room
Rugby players use their shoulders and acc have proper technique not reliant on pads or helmets. There’s also a high tackle so u can’t tackle someone above the chest like where the nipples.
@@archiebaines2246 Nah, you don't hit even half as hard. Pussies. Shoulder charge is illegal in rugby. Even hockey has that. That's like MMA without punches or kicks
Lando-Mcfly ur chattin shite mate no scientists have come up with that bollocks, you wear protective gear so it can’t possibly hurt as much. Without the gear fair enough but it is what it is.
Rugby players are far superior than NFL players the endurance needed for rugby compared to the NFL is worlds apart and the 80 mins of hits without the ludicrous NFL padding. ( some players have thin shoulder pads underneath the top). I know gailic football, ozzy rules have some mad challenges but I have never watched it so I can’t really comment on how though they are in comparison.
I feel that even though mma gloves and boxing gloves produce about the same amount of force that the softer but larger glove contributes more towards concussions because of the extra bounce of the gloves.
Like MMA fighters don't get rehydration there is video of cyborg crying because she has to cut weight. MMA fans just can't handle the fact boxing is the most dangerous sport. I read a comment saying MMA is more immediately dangerous than boxing because they get cuts 😂
In mma you have more control than you do in boxing, meaning you can block more, though in mma you can get head kicked very much and kicks are much harder than punches
Its repeated head shots that accumulate that end up killing a trained fighter. It's better to get knocked out in one punch than to endure many hits to the head. The headgear doesnt prevent the brain from bouncing around in the skull. These guys have so much heart. It's sad af. Wrestling is probably the safest combat sport. Though I've seen a teammate get knocked out during a meet, it was bc the other guy did an illegal over the shoulder slam onto my boys back of the head and neck. Controlled slams are a rule in wrestling, at least in high school.
Its an amazing feeling putting a helmet and pads on. You feel invincible until you find out, pretty quickly, you aren't. Every hit you take makes you hit harder. When it came to playing defense I just looked to blow up anyone in the way. Thats what youre taught from pee wee. Pretty crazy
Yeah, but wasnt it awesome. I've had crippling injuries (concussions, muscle tears, paralysis) from football and other sports and I dont regret doing those sports. I do maybe regret being so reckless with pushing myself through injuries to the extent I did but that's about it.
It's a pretty blurry line as a parent between MMA and football. It'd be hard to argue one is safe and the other isn't. There are safer options for both, rather than 11 a side in football, play 7 on 7. Rather than MMA, have your kid do a specific discipline that focuses more on grappling than striking (like wrestling).
I watch that Lethwei on Fightpass sometimes. They wait until the bell rings to start the round, then play this god-awful music while they fight. Round over...music stops. Like the worlds most violent game of musical chairs.
Mma is unquestionably safer in boxing you spend your entire life from start to finish getting punched in the head being it sparing or fights and your facing guys that only train to do that....in mma your spending half the time grappling in training and even in fights probably only half of them will be against stand up fighters Regardless they all should be respected for risking there lives for us to watch
I always thought mma was safer because you dont have to just knock someone out to win the fight. Ground fighting is becoming more and more prominent because it's just so damn good. And the fact that you can hit the legs and even hitting the body is easier. But we dont really know yet because mma is so damn new
Luis Gomez is a lame and doesn't know shiit about fighting or comedy... and what's said is he tries doing both for a living. Headbutting is one of the worst ways to get hit. If you have experience fighting you would know this.
I'm not too knowledgeable on MMA or boxing but wouldn't boxing be more deadly because the head is targeted 100% of the time. Where in MMA ground game and submissions happen quite often.
So wait haven't you seen MMA fighters who were knocked down and able to get back up? Is it because of the rules? Ok why are you not allowed to knee someone who is on the ground? Isn't fighting? How did Jon Jones get a loss on his record again? He was winning the fight it doesn't make sense.
@@Abdi-libaax it ain't perfect but its a hell of a lot better. If you learn boxing for street fighting, it'll help you for all of 2 seconds before the guy tackles you. The entire martial art of boxing is based on the idea that your opponent isn't allowed to do certain things to you
@@Neighman in the streets not everyone has the ability to take you down most fights are on the feet. So all take down is BS you'll get your jaw broken trying to be GSP.
The evidence definitely suggests Boxing is more dangerous than MMA. But they brought up a good point about sport versus fighting. Boxing is definitely closer to a sport than MMA, but that’s why in my opinion boxing is often more entertaining. Some MMA fights devolve into just clinch work and ground and pound and there aren’t as many visually impressive striking exchanges as in Boxing. That’s not always the case but it’s interesting to see the chaos of fighting compared to the isolated skill sets in a sport.
To comment on the first discussion, this is true and it was researched on when they compared rugby hits (0 pads) vs football hits (padded out the ass). It was discovered that ruby players hold back every single time while football players go all out, and that's because rugby players have no protection, so they feel more in danger, which in turn leads them to hold back their full mass and strength against one another.
"when people get head kicked unconscious its not good for their brain" lmao.
Lmao I died when he said that shit.
I read this as soon as he said this
Why are you booing me ? I'm right
@@Mrwallyish it's sad not many people get your reference good job tho👌
ass eater69 ahhahaha i appreciate your knowledge of the culture 😂👊🏼
Mma guys: mma is safer than football.
Also mma guys: headbutting should be legal.
8802gator soccer kicks should be legal again. Lol
@@surfingtothestars it would be visual entertaining and the mma guys would be down cause they're gnarly. But damn as a bmx racer and not even a fighter I couldnt imagine soccer kicking someone's head man it would be scary
Soccer kicks can and will kill people, imagine Edson Barboza soccer kicking someone in the head!!! 💀
@@FREEDOMFORUKRAINE2024 that would be fucked. He'd snap there neck
@@ItsCriti Nope, there were plenty of big guys in pride doing soccer kicks and none of them broke any necks. Cro cop, shogun, wandy etc.
The scariest thing to see for me happened in PeeWee football in 5th grade. The coach's son was the all star QB and we all looked up to him. He seemed damn near invincible. Then one game he got tackled into a sea of other kids and when everyone cleared out he was just laying there. His neck had snapped. He was paralyzed from basically where the solar plectrum is downwards and has to be in a wheelchair for the rest of his life before he made it to high school. A lot of our teammates had this QB complex of it didn't matter who they were they were the new king and this paralyzed kid was basically abandoned throughout high school. I spent every day with him though. He always joked that if he was never paralyzed how else would he get a physique like Johnny Bravo lol.
Hope you're doing well, Travis. Love ya bud.
You a real one.
5:28 that sound cracked me
That’s depressing man
Wow. I would never let my kid play rugby.
Your kindness speaks volumes
That wasn't a rotisserie chicken in the thumbnail?
handello my high fatass thought that... 😂😂
Its been a long time since ive actually laughed at a comment 😂😂😂
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Does anyone know what that fight was? There's so much blood!
@@ryugo7713 what?
I love how Joe was talking about how dangerous head collisions are then proceeds to make an argument for the legalization of head butts in MMA.
Hah classic Rogan podcast moment
So? We want entertaiment
jake hey I don’t really care if there is head butting in MMA, I just found it funny that Joe contradicted himself. You can’t argue that football is dangerous because there are a substantial amount of head collisions then proceed to question why head butting is illegal in MMA. I dot really care much I just found it funny
Laz Maroulis I feel like add head butting in MMA is retarded and if they ever add that in the sport everybody in MMA would leave that sport Retarded.
@@lazmaroulis6686 imagine this. Is it worse to run full speed and hit the Heavy bag with head or stand infront of Heavy bag and hit her with head.
MMA is safer than boxing. The damage is more spread out on your body like your legs. as opposed to having all the damage on your ribs and head. Also The fights are drastically shorter to 15-25 minute vs 36 minute fights.
I'm a doctor and you're wrong. Stipe, Chuck, Justin Gaethje, Diaz brothers have CTE.
@@MichaelP-ke1tm He's not saying it isn't NOT dangerous; it obviously is. But the argument being made is that the way MMA fighters end up fighting is more nuanced, with chokeholds, armbars and other submissions and defensive strategies that makes you somewhat less suseptible to deadly brain trauma.
@@MichaelP-ke1tm you are not a doctor
@@lukefaulkner7846
I'm a CZcams doctor. Unlicensed but professional.
Chinese Water torturers eventually even a small drip starts putting a dent then a Hole through your Head😓🤯💧🎎
Joe "when people get head kicked unconscious its not good for their brain" Rogan Experience
Read this as he said it lol
@@rorylynch5466 same
i didnt get the joke
Most UFC fighters take home less than a burger chain manager after gym fees, management, coaching and staffing training camps. It’s kind of amazing how little they actually make.
Yeah, it's pretty sad.
They make a shit ton, way way above than average
@@itsSloMo the gym fees income tax the lack of sponsors cause of reebok its not alot unless your a big name
@@lt.boinks992 atleast you mentioned the taxes
@@lt.boinks992 I thought fighters were paid to train once you get a big fight. Either way the UFC are cocksuckers for the level of greed they show. But also It is a young business and it may just be trying to ensure it is here to stay at the top.
Boxing has had 2 major deaths this year as far as I remember. It's so common
2-3 deaths a year is not common.
@@apricotmadness4850 yes it is. You just domt hear about it. Maybe not much so deaths. But a lot of comas and brain damage
There has been over 500 deaths in boxing since 1953. 22 deaths in 1953 alone.
@@AJHoltzclaw you don't hear about mma deaths. Boxing is the bigger sport so you hear about it. Dude dies from mma literally a day before the askren Masvidal fight and nobody even mentioned it. When mma gets bigger you will start hearing about it.
What about the minor deaths?
Rugby has less cte... less not none. That is because they know how to tackle and there is way less blind side hits.
not "knowing" how to tackle, just nobody leads with the head because they dont have anything other than little leather hats
Comparing football to a sport wherein one may compete in a SKIRT with no ill effects -- rich!
@@jm-gj2ho nobody in hockey leads with their head and they wear helmets. Its called a shoulder learn to use it haha
jm7284 leather hats 😂😂😂 have you ever watched rugby 😂
jm7284 The leather hat you're speaking of is called a scrum cap. It's not leather. No-one wears them. You'll see 2 or 3 on a team at most.
One of the reasons mma is safer than boxing is because in mma, if you get stunned and knocked down, your opponent can go ahead and finish you and end the fight, in boxing, the ref will give the boxer a chance to recover and continue the fight, and of course the boxer being stubborn, would still continue even if his body's giving up.
Myth myth. The why boxing is dangerous because they know how throw punches better. When you get dropped you most likely get dropped again or get finished while showing signs of not being able to defend yourself. MMA can get stunned fall on the floor roll in in a ball and get hit with a couple of hammer punches. When you watch the reply most of the hammer punches have been blocked by the gloves. The reff just jumps in and stops the fight giving the MMA fighter a easy way out of the fight. Then you have MMA make face "he got me" not even really knocked out. Some of course get knocked out cold.
Boxers are dying in the ring yearly
MMA fighters rarely die in matches
@Luis Bolanos yeah if that was the case then boxers wouldn't need so many limitations to allow them to fight.
MMA is closer to "real fighting". Boxing is much more so a 'sport', as it's literally only testing striking and specifically striking with hands and _specifically_ in standing positions around a metre away from the other fighter.
Edit: because people think im not saying boxing is dangerous. Boxing is definitely very dangerous - it's a concussion roundhouse for sure. The comment i was replying to was calling MMA a sport and boxing real fighting but it's since been deleted. I'm aware boxing is dangerous, thanks
Luis Bolanos doesnt make sense to me 🤷♂️
Luis Bolanos I lost brain cells reading this.
Luis Bolanos you can’t actually be serious
@Luis Bolanos so limiting the way you move and fight Is a game?
Boxers take to many sustained punches to the head.
The brain is constantly banging around against the skull..
The damage in MMA goes to your face, body, legs etc. But in boxing the main damage influences your brain. Plus in mma you can't hit as hard as you can, you basically gonna break your arms.. but in boxing you don't care for your arms and punch to punch as much as you can
Hey have you ever been headkicked full power
@@frankie6890 What has that have to do with repeatedly being punched to the head in a boxing bout ?, getting hit hard to the head repeatedly sometimes 500 times. That's why boxers die in boxing and MMA guys don't as MMA Guys are being hit everywhere. Its Quite obvious that is what caused the brain damage. Of course bones break etc etc more in MMA , but one kick to the head is not going to systematically give a fighter brain damage.
@@frankie6890 How many single head kicks cause a fighter to die with brain damage ?
@@frankie6890 That one full power headkick if it lands (and its not THAT common) will very likely KO the person it hits and end the fight within seconds. Punches in boxing gloves are repeated sustained hits that arent enough to flash KO you but will bounce your brain around in your skull dozens and dozens of times in a fight. Even if you get rocked and dropped you still get the standing count meaning you'll probably be back up for more punishment.
Yoel romero vs Joe Rogan make it happen
romero made rogans whole net worth in one day lol..
Justin Ejimah are u kidding me ? 🤣😂 ufc fighters get paid penny’s on the dollar 😂 more like joe rogan made Yoel Romero’s net worth in one episode of fear factor 🤣😂
@@jaycharles9144 lol. romero won a lawsuit vs ufcs and was awarded 27 m.
Justin Ejimah whole net worth? 😂
If you believe that your a silly twat haha..
Yoel is yet to receive 60pc of a 26M...
Joe makes $100k+ per podcast his supplement company, his Netflix contract he makes more than yoel just commentating
Justin Ejimah 26m that he most likely won’t receive a dollar if the company declares bankrupt.... are you 14?
5:28 caught me so off guard, yikes
Calum Aimes Sammeeee 😂😂 I had headphones in as well lool
Someone needs to make a compilation of joe Rogan sound effects🤣
Roman Adriel I’ll make it but it’ll take a while to make cause he has so many podcasts/videos
lmaooo
Lfmao I was listening to this on the morning bus and this scared the shit out of me as I was half asleep
The first point he made is actually true. Look at rugby. They completely play a different way. I actually had a football coach in high school who was also a rugby coach and he was asked that exact question " isn't it worse to basically play football but without pads" and his response was "people tackle and move in a different way because they subconsciously know that safety isn't there." The padding seems to cause more damage as it changes they way you play.
Statistics show that boxer's have to rely on their defense if not they will live a hard life in the future. MMA well head kicks, bones broken, man they're both dangerous!
Different ounce gloves
Phil Reyz they’re *
Subie876 try again
@@shaad4044 lmfao
More people die in boxing. Pretty clear on which one is more dangerous
I've only heard of mma deaths due to weight cuts but there are like 2 in unsanctioned fights. We know boxers drop like flies though
Nah there are MMA deaths but there are only around 7 compared to way more in boxing however MMA is a lot newer support so we haven’t really got into the time phase where we will be Able to see fighters getting CTE
@@mushy6605 Not sure that has to do with young MMA is. For how young it is, MMA as a sport is lucky to have coincided with the advancement of sports science where nutrition, conditioning and overall efficiency has such a high focus and is the best it's ever been across most sports.
nightfall well kinda but there have been 2 recent professional boxing deaths.
So.. 😗
@@bradengedda9870 which lets you know how much more dangerous boxing is despite all of that.
shunsuke max nah I hate this bs they’re have been well over 500 boxing deaths since the 1950s and people like you are like well idk theirs been zero ufc deaths and only around 8 or so mma deaths so I’m waiting for this proof
In high school, I had friends who would get concussions and the next day, they show up to practice and act like they’re hung over. They loved the game so much
They def got cte
MMA is way safer don’t get hit as much as a boxer if you add up all the punches landed in total a boxer gets hit most of the time over 500 punches MMA is a few punches and more wrestling
I agree
MMA fighters get hit with 4oz gloves shin bones knees elbows kicks too the ribs the face mma is real fighting boxing is just a limited sport
Nah look at Holloway his output is similar to that of a boxer over 36 minutes, also you’re eating bigger shots in MMA
Jesus Christ homie... PUNCTUATION
@@tsplays7234 soo??? Boxers can eat mma guys in a. Street fight boxers wrestle as well and send people to the dirt in a fight
“Skull drills”. That’s lining up across from another guy and ramming your heads into each other over and over again. That’s just one of the insane things I remember doing in football practice in high school.
That’s the dumbest shit I’ve ever heard
@@listen7634 well it is football lol
Jesse Comeau ig you have a point😃
@@listen7634 😂😂😂😂😂 perfect reaction to this comment
we would do this same thing but instead of hitting heads we would hit shoulder pads
5:28 What on earth is this sound
Rogan's comic book sounds are kinda weird.
a chihuahua getting angry
Joe: why can't I headbutt?
*Evander Holyfield has entered the chat*
Love how unbiased Joe is about boxing
Underrated
MMA ur more likely to break ur arm or tear an ACL but Boxing ur gonna suffer life long brain trauma with the repeated blows. Gloves allow u to punch harder and longer by protecting ur hands and reducing cuts and the striking zone is very small ur either being hit in ur head or internal organs.
Alex Tafoya defense fighters fighters know the risk I analyze boxing from head to toe it’s the type fighting that will depend on your future come prepared and be defensively responsible and your brain will be okay
I’ve trained boxing for 4-5 years and mma for 2, my only big injury I got was from when I tore my acl playing soccer
@@tomkennyjackett1996 exactly, you TRAINED
@@tomkennyjackett1996 yeah training and an actual fight are 2 dif things
Sports science already proved this. The pads make the hits 4x harder than rugby. They said it was compared as 5 mph crash to a 30 mph crash.
@some random guy NFL players don't play rugby because the top players in the NFL make 20 times as much as the top rugby players. It's rugby players that are trying to weasel their way into the NFL so they can try to be a mid-tier player at best and make twice as much as they ever could playing rugby.
some random guy they tested the impacts and tested speeds of actual players from both sports. I wasn’t saying one was tougher than the other I was stating the pads make the impact 4x greater then rugby. It’s proven with facts not feelings of biases on a sport
The pads make the impact harder but the defenders are also wearing pads which protects them. Gotta give the full story when you're quoting "science". And as for rugby players not being fit enough, that's rich coming from a sport that needs to take a break every 2 minutes and has a bench of attackers and defenders. Rugby players run the full 80 without taking turns on offense/defense.
Sol Kim czcams.com/video/W7tGY-VDx3o/video.html
Go look for yourself. It is science? They had a question performed a controlled test. Got results. Tried it other ways got the same results which then they gave us the results. You’re getting very defensive about your sport. Ya rugby players can’t play American football just like American football players can’t play rugby they are completely different sports but with the pads, extra weight, faster athletes. Equals way more force impact.
Bit off topic, but uhm @Tanner Cox a 5mph vs a 30mph crash isn't 4x harder, impact force doesn't work lineary. Using the omnicalculator online a 30mph crash results in +- 157.4kN of force, with a 229g deceleration and a 'feel' of being hit with something weighing 16.04t.
The crash with 5mph gives and impact force of ONLY 4.37kN, a deceleration of ONLY 6g and a feel of getting hit by something weighing 0.446t.
You might want to reevaluate your previous statement. www.omnicalculator.com/physics/car-crash-force
Im so glad they brought this up. I laugh at people that go on and on about how violent boxing and MMA are but they love them some football.
“What’s the difference from hitting from these bones (elbows & legs) and your skull?!?”
Joe your brain is in there
😭😭
Boxing is more Dangerous. Too Many deaths
Three Pyramids Garbage sport too. MMA is objectively better.
@@user-wx2ej1rf1q calling boxing garbage tells that ur a moron. Mma is 50% bullcrap you go down once and its over. Boxer are tougher and in more danger.
@@DjSonicxify boxers aren't tougher, if they go against a mma fighter they get destroyed.
Boxing its older
Boxing has been around alot longer
Rogan before Its all over I just want to see you spinning back kick somebody In the OCTAGON
Real Hitta Lmao, just once
Only true fight fans know what Im talking about ... 👌💯
Joe Rogan round housing Jamie in the octagon , make it happen Dana
Closest we have is playing as him in ufc games. Eventually it’ll look real 😁
Bro he is like 50 now, that shit aint happening
Me as a european thinking they were talking about soccer 😅
They are talking about rugby zou thought they were talking about football
@TyetheRebel rugby isn't the same thing as American football
TyetheRebel Why do y’all always bitch about the names of things
The ball against the head in soccer is not terrific either..
@TyetheRebel the name SOCCER was created by the british tho
Americans: football is soo dangerous
Rugby players: dare challenge me mortal
Josh Crosby said nobody except you ever
Adam Coburn No hate but the rest of the world said it
Rugby is way more hardcore than football ! Think about it rugby players don’t wear any padding or helmets.
Adam Coburn said literally everyone outside of america.
Completely separate to the merits of the sports, because i play neither, rugby is clearly far more physically demanding than american football.
Hurling?
A friend of mine died from having a concussion and playing on in the rugby match it was heartnrraking and preventable. I stoped playing for my club and only played for the school as the size and level of competition was smaller.then I stoped becuase of the risk.i started mm and boxing after and I got injured way more as a rugby player than a boxer or doing mma training. The force and size of a large rugby player smashing into you in my opinion isnt comparative to a bunch or a kick
Also in martial arts the objective is not getting hit while in football/rugby the objective literally is smashing your head into someone.
yes i played rugby for 7 years ive started boxing i can 100% agreee
@@FREEDOMFORUKRAINE2024 great point so true
I coach HS football, I really think taking away the helmet or transitioning to a much smaller helmet would be the best situation. Right now, most teams are teaching rugby style tackling which completely takes the head out of the tackle, no need for it. The NFL just put an emphasis on penalizing/fining more OL/DL for initiating contact with the helmet. The game is being adjusted so that you can't use the helmet which is a great thing.
Now think about some of the greatest NFL/NCAA Football plays you have ever seen, how many involved a head to head collision? None right? Maybe a couple? We don't need the head to head contact in the game, it can be played without it.
percywearspurple very nice comment, thank you rational person.
Taking away the helmet means taking away the forward pass.
Yes, just learn Rugby Union and join the civilised World 🇮🇪🇳🇿🇿🇦🇦🇺🇫🇷
@@Frdgamer explain?
Never get this many fools on the show at one time.
I watched a buddy of mine, who was a former pro soccer player, headbutt a guy unconscious in a bar fight lol. He grabbed the guy by the ears and just slammed the top of his head into the guys face. It was BRUTAL. That wet thud sound is bone chilling.
MMA is safer than football
Would it be safer, if you could fight every week, like football?
Daniel Beake obviously not
@@danesesse muay thai guys fight like clockwork
@@danesesse that's what i thought, football is every week, and that's pretty stupid for people being concussed every game.. Mma have rules how long you have to lay off after you get finished or ko'd
Bonnie Beats fighters spar though to don’t forget
Dave Leduc, World Lethwei Champion, headbutts at 9:40 mark!
Ever since CTE blew up with the NFL i was always shocked that boxing and MMA wasn't brought to the forefront and put on the hotseat. This is the first time ive ever even heard someone say anything about CTE in Boxing\ MMA.
The reason why is because people sort of knew about CTE in boxing, not such much the in depth medical science behind it, but boxers/fighters were always becoming punch drunk. That in itself steered alot of parents away from allowing their kids to box/fight. Where as in NFL it basically was assumed a "safe" sport with all of its padding and protection, so lots of parents actively encouraged their children into the sport without any knowledge of very possible brain injuries.
i played through 3 concussions through my highschool football career i got them all through hitting not getting hit. i also played through a minor right knee sprain as running back/linebacker in middle school for our last 2 games. Ironman football literally my team had 13 players and i was one of the top 3-4. Im not saying this to flex btw i regret it and my coach encouraged it. to make it worse the last 2 games both teams had 20+ players and were getting rested. I got away with headhunting the whole duration of 6th-11th grade and the coaches loved it and even some opposing players would respect it. needless to say i definitely not a football advocate anymore especially with how politicized sports have become
Damn
I watched my friend hut a giy so hard he fell over and started doing the Antonio brown with his fingers, his coaches picked him up, slapped him on the helmet, and sent him back out there.
When i played football in high school I got a concussion and couldn’t smell shit, couldn’t hear out of my right ear and my coach just told me it would be better in a few days, and I finished the rest of practice and played first string tight end the next day. I knew something wasn’t right with my head but my coach said it was normal so i sucked it up..
Old comment, but still….. that’s stupid. I’m all in favor of being tough and pushing through pain and discomfort, but doing something that can result in permanent damage, for no reason other than practice, is stupid.
Injuries like that may never fully heal. And they need to be taken more seriously. And all of this over high school football? It’s a game. Simple as that. It isn’t worth damaging your brain over.
People don’t seem to get that 16 ounce gloves coming from a boxer more than likely hurts more than mma fighters with no gloves (coming from a martial artist btw) boxers tend to have more upper body speed and strength
It's actually 8-10oz in pro fights. MMA is 4oz
@@jono_owa my point still stands… but thanks for the correction
Doesn’t their strength/speed just depend on how they train tho
If you've ever played football, you know that you never lead with your helmet... youre taught that I gradeschool
Kyle Clancy that’s a relatively new thing being taught with heads up football and the rugby tackle. Back about 20 years ago it was not uncommon to see a safety spear a defenseless receiver in the side of the head. Now that would be an immediate ejection in most levels of football
If u ain’t a pussy and want to have a good hit u lead wit ur head
Gamer Epic 🤦
TheBasedMessiah u don’t need to lean with ur head to make a good hit. But anyone can do whatever they want.
TheBasedMessiah idk I would just tackle a different way, not always leading with my head.
I wanna see Joe in a hardcore straight edge mosh pit, feelin the riffs & spin kickin nukkas all wild.
”How come you’re allowed to hit with these bones but not this bone” 😂😂
I have played both football and rugby and trust me that rugby is much more safer sport than football first of all the tackling is much safer and there are specific type of techniques people use to tackle where in every case is attacking the lower body or legs and anything high in rugby is always gonna be called by the ref, wheras in football u can basically tackle any way u want although using your helmet is illegal the reality it only causes more concussions and more head to head contact, also you have to take into consideration blocking , in football people ram into one another for just blocks in rugby there is no blocking, blocking is probably another major reason football is even more dangerous because in a lot of cases you have o linemen , fullbacks big guys who are usually 250lbs plus run as fast as possible to knock u on ur ass.. and A lot of the time they charge at u using there helmet as a weapon or they lower there helmet once they get close to u
Such amazing insight
I know that there is also an aspect of Muay Thai that teaches to lean in to the opponent's punch with their forehead to avoid getting hit in the soft tissue like the nose or eyes. This gives people the impression that Muay Thai fighters are really tough but it is just a trick. I must say though this makes Muay Thai fighters mentally tough, teaching them to go against their basic instinct of retreating from danger.
I'm an amateur mma fighter. Last fight I got ko'd from a headkick, and had a mild concussion. I've been training and competing for 4 years and that was my first defeat, and first real brain injury. I see my neurologist every other year. My shit is fine lol.
Gnrv Hrnndz it’s constant head trauma that causes problems in the future
Dude seriously asked if small finger locks were legal 😂😂 watch your pinky’s 🤙
A broken bone no matter which one is pure agony
Mario Alvarez I’ve broken bones plenty of times in my hands and honestly it’s more of a nagging pain then agonizing, I doubt with the punishment they take a finger lock of any sort would make them tap
@@rdmwwhite3866 i would have to slightly burn my hand just to transfer the receptors from my index and pinky . and i was in agony for 3 broken ribs for about 3 weeks
Mario Alvarez yeah broken ribs are tough , hard to even breathe
@@rdmwwhite3866 Ooo look at Mr. Badass over here.
Boxing is incredibly more dangerous. The fighters hit harder, the entire fight is your vital organs being attacked, if you get knocked down, you get back up and continue the fight.
Skateboarding is pretty dangerous too
@@Boss3Nate hahahahahahahahahHHha
The boxers don’t hit harder lol. A leg kick is a lot more powerful than any punch. Not to mention Ngannou holds the record for he hardest punch ever recorded .
@@ifuaintfirsturlast7910 Deontay Wilder's right hand. What about that?
Vlad or Have him test his power then . Ngannou still holds the record for a punch .
The football helmet point is actually pretty reasonable I’ve played football and rugby for five years and have been concussed multiple times in football but never in rugby
Never played football apart from the back garden with the lads cause I'm from Ireland but I've gotten concussed about 7 times in rugby lol
As soon as joe said neck I looked at his neck for the first tim ever. Pretty large
Alex Armstrong H E F T Y C H O N K
Me too lmaooooo
Deaths in 2019 from MMA = 0 while boxing = 2
checkmate
I saw a kick boxing match where a black guy died in his 1st match this year
Kickboxing isn’t mixed martial arts
@@SweetChinMusix kickboxing is boxing with leg knockouts.
Damn i remember learning that top of the forehead bizness from a movie in 92 called Gladiator.
I would say that Boxing might be a bit worse...WHY? Because in MMA there are many ways to defeat an opponent, that don't include a K.O. i.e. submissions, chokes, where Boxing you are always going for the K.O. (to head)
What is that logic?! In mma you can knock out but also break bones and choke people out, the gloves are much harder, just look at the aftermath of boxing fights vs ufc fights. It clear which does more damage. Now for the brain trauma, getting a leg kick or elbow to the head or face is worse than getting a 14 or 10 ounce glove tot he face. Its a fact, its bone on bone.
@@Keovey more people die in boxing
@@tinynapa5155 because more people go into boxing , bigger sport bigger death rate.
@@Keovey There 20k boxers and 1000 mma fighters 13 fighters die per year in boxing. while barely die in mma only 16 deaths. Do the math bruh
@@tkdamusicman Yeah you probably right, I think the thicker gloves causes more rattle of the brain on impact, leading to more brain damage (rather than your bone/skull being damaged)
4:55 this is so important and why a lot of people don't realize punching is just one aspect of a real fight
The most skilled fighters are boxers the only reason people revert to using anything else besides punching is when there losing Or have less confidence in there hands a wrestler can’t run up on a boxer and just go for there legs he’s gonna catch multiple uppercuts and hooks your also not just gonna kick a boxer in the head 😂 a kick is easier to see coming then a punch and do course I’m not talking about scenarios where it’s like the best martial artist/wrestler in the world vs some okay boxer but put the best boxer up from whatever weight group up against the top wrestler/martial artist from the same weight group the boxer is winning those fights wrestling and kicking are good to use if you know your not an expert puncher it’s good to be well rounded but if your an elite boxer that’s all you need
I think Joe Rogan has spectated every form of competitive fighting at least once lol
Much more dangerous. Sparring more often, bigger gloves allow you to keep punching and not hurt your fist. You get hit more to the head in boxing and if you get knocked down, you can just come back up during the count.
Yeah it’s not like 3 fighters died this year may they Rest In Peace
MMA? I know a boxer died this year
Nah boxer
Headbutt isn't the best weapon to KO someone, and it's risky in many ways.
I've watch many Lethwei fights live, but I've never seen a headbutt KO.
But, it is a useful tool in clinch, and also a good equalizer for someone with height/reach disadvantage.
Lethwei fighters would change the ufc unimaginably if ufc allowed head butts again.
this guy gets it
Football players sign contracts and know the risks. They aren't forced to play football. They play it because they LOVE the game!
Bobby Taco this, I love football and I understand the dangers of the sport. Acting like it’s a end all be all options is ridiculous
Gotta remember a good majority of college football players can't even read or write so basically they're a cash cow for college's seeking that Natty and professional teams looking just to fill seats.
"If you take the helmets they wouldn't play like that" ever heard of rugby?
Thought exactly the same ahahah
Except they don't play like that with rugby
They dont play like that in rugby though, they tackle with actual technique to prevent damage. Ive never even played rugby but i still know always tackle with your head up otherwise hf in the emergency room
Rugby players use their shoulders and acc have proper technique not reliant on pads or helmets. There’s also a high tackle so u can’t tackle someone above the chest like where the nipples.
idk why im so fascinated with the rendition at 5:24
They said “they would never play without helmets and pads” rugby my guy
Cormac Quinn innit pal we’re just arder that these yanks 😂😂
@@archiebaines2246 Nah, you don't hit even half as hard. Pussies. Shoulder charge is illegal in rugby. Even hockey has that. That's like MMA without punches or kicks
Aston martin fuck off pal ur literally named after a British car rugby lads are ten men compared to some of the wet flannels on American football
Archiebigmuscle s scientists have study the impact football is 4x hard hits.
Lando-Mcfly ur chattin shite mate no scientists have come up with that bollocks, you wear protective gear so it can’t possibly hurt as much. Without the gear fair enough but it is what it is.
About the pads thing, rugby is pretty similar to football and they dont wear any pads.
Rugby players are far superior than NFL players the endurance needed for rugby compared to the NFL is worlds apart and the 80 mins of hits without the ludicrous NFL padding. ( some players have thin shoulder pads underneath the top). I know gailic football, ozzy rules have some mad challenges but I have never watched it so I can’t really comment on how though they are in comparison.
5:28 lol
I feel that even though mma gloves and boxing gloves produce about the same amount of force that the softer but larger glove contributes more towards concussions because of the extra bounce of the gloves.
8:53 Spell luthwei, Joe. W-E-I-L-U-T-H
Glad someone else noticed this
Most boxing related deaths have to do with dehydration during weight cuts. They fight when the brain isnt properly rehydrated
No. That's just wrong
Like MMA fighters don't get rehydration there is video of cyborg crying because she has to cut weight. MMA fans just can't handle the fact boxing is the most dangerous sport. I read a comment saying MMA is more immediately dangerous than boxing because they get cuts 😂
This is not true, mma fighters weight cut just as much as boxers. No one has ever died from an mma match
In mma you have more control than you do in boxing, meaning you can block more, though in mma you can get head kicked very much and kicks are much harder than punches
Its repeated head shots that accumulate that end up killing a trained fighter. It's better to get knocked out in one punch than to endure many hits to the head. The headgear doesnt prevent the brain from bouncing around in the skull. These guys have so much heart. It's sad af. Wrestling is probably the safest combat sport. Though I've seen a teammate get knocked out during a meet, it was bc the other guy did an illegal over the shoulder slam onto my boys back of the head and neck. Controlled slams are a rule in wrestling, at least in high school.
Yes because it's not just the head and occasional body shot that is being targeted.
Its an amazing feeling putting a helmet and pads on. You feel invincible until you find out, pretty quickly, you aren't. Every hit you take makes you hit harder. When it came to playing defense I just looked to blow up anyone in the way. Thats what youre taught from pee wee. Pretty crazy
Yeah, but wasnt it awesome. I've had crippling injuries (concussions, muscle tears, paralysis) from football and other sports and I dont regret doing those sports. I do maybe regret being so reckless with pushing myself through injuries to the extent I did but that's about it.
Mma hasnt been around long enough to know the long term effects of mma when compared to boxing
My school would focus sometimes on keeping the helmet away from the person, not trying to get anyone injured
It's a pretty blurry line as a parent between MMA and football. It'd be hard to argue one is safe and the other isn't. There are safer options for both, rather than 11 a side in football, play 7 on 7. Rather than MMA, have your kid do a specific discipline that focuses more on grappling than striking (like wrestling).
I watch that Lethwei on Fightpass sometimes. They wait until the bell rings to start the round, then play this god-awful music while they fight. Round over...music stops. Like the worlds most violent game of musical chairs.
Wait until Joe finds out about Rugby.
Rugby is much safer than football.
@@tjcogger1974 it's almost the same thing without armour on. Football is just a bunch of bloke's running at each other
@@Slipper489 Not the same game at all.
I wonder how many councussions i had growing up?? Anybody else remember "getting their bell rang"?? Heard that a lot as a kid
5:27 LOL
What fight is that in the thumbnail?
I think Dustin Piorier va Max holloway, could be wrong
It’s nice to have terrace Crawford recngized he’s one of the best boxers in the world and he’s our buddy here in his home town. Omaha, Nebraska
Jesus Christ 5:29 scared the ever loving fuck outta me 😂😂
5:28
I believe that the clinch should be allowed in boxing. Like old school bare knuckle boxing. It should be implemented as a strategic aspect of boxing.
Nah, boxer just use the clinch to rest.
Mma is unquestionably safer in boxing you spend your entire life from start to finish getting punched in the head being it sparing or fights and your facing guys that only train to do that....in mma your spending half the time grappling in training and even in fights probably only half of them will be against stand up fighters
Regardless they all should be respected for risking there lives for us to watch
Damage in mma is cosmetic.. damage in boxing is internal
Then you haven't watched boxing.
I always thought mma was safer because you dont have to just knock someone out to win the fight. Ground fighting is becoming more and more prominent because it's just so damn good. And the fact that you can hit the legs and even hitting the body is easier. But we dont really know yet because mma is so damn new
"There's no technique in head butting"
Me: "Dude, kickboxer? Tong Po? Muay Thai?"
Luis Gomez is a lame and doesn't know shiit about fighting or comedy... and what's said is he tries doing both for a living. Headbutting is one of the worst ways to get hit. If you have experience fighting you would know this.
Tong Po! Tong Po!
5:27 scared the shit out of me.
Good point for American Football, as in Rugby you don't have all that padding, and clearly concussion cases are way less common.
One of the problems with the concussion protocol in the NFL is that players will hide concussions and keep playing.
I'm not too knowledgeable on MMA or boxing but wouldn't boxing be more deadly because the head is targeted 100% of the time. Where in MMA ground game and submissions happen quite often.
the weitght of a glove is underestimated. You can punch a door much harder with a big glove than with a light glove.
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The fact that you can get up after being knocked out cold in boxing is one of the reasons I'll always refer to their events as matches and not fights.
So wait haven't you seen MMA fighters who were knocked down and able to get back up? Is it because of the rules? Ok why are you not allowed to knee someone who is on the ground? Isn't fighting? How did Jon Jones get a loss on his record again? He was winning the fight it doesn't make sense.
@@Abdi-libaax it ain't perfect but its a hell of a lot better. If you learn boxing for street fighting, it'll help you for all of 2 seconds before the guy tackles you. The entire martial art of boxing is based on the idea that your opponent isn't allowed to do certain things to you
@@Neighman in the streets not everyone has the ability to take you down most fights are on the feet. So all take down is BS you'll get your jaw broken trying to be GSP.
@@Abdi-libaax You are factually wrong and provably so. 85% of fights end up with both guys in the ground
does anyone know what fight was in the thumbail? aware that im already on jre clips, but i still dont want to dedicate the ten minutes.
Yes
The evidence definitely suggests Boxing is more dangerous than MMA. But they brought up a good point about sport versus fighting. Boxing is definitely closer to a sport than MMA, but that’s why in my opinion boxing is often more entertaining. Some MMA fights devolve into just clinch work and ground and pound and there aren’t as many visually impressive striking exchanges as in Boxing. That’s not always the case but it’s interesting to see the chaos of fighting compared to the isolated skill sets in a sport.
To comment on the first discussion, this is true and it was researched on when they compared rugby hits (0 pads) vs football hits (padded out the ass). It was discovered that ruby players hold back every single time while football players go all out, and that's because rugby players have no protection, so they feel more in danger, which in turn leads them to hold back their full mass and strength against one another.
In essence, full contact sports are wild