Step by step no soak, no simmer, no seal millet prep and pressure cooker packing
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- čas přidán 9. 09. 2024
- 1000:500g test results, why millet works so well, why we reduce variability and how to scale.
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I love how you spend most of this video and other videos explaining the “whys.” Having a deeper understanding of each step helps so much. A lot of other videos just give you the steps without a full understanding on why they are so important to succeeding. Just watching some of your videos as leveled my game on mycology exponentially. Thanks for the information.
He’s one of the if not the best teacher on CZcams
Yeah I learn much better when I know WHY something is done. It also allows for experimentation based on principle, rather than having to watch/read a bunch of tutorials/recipes and find the pattern between them all.
So glad I found this video; now I'll be scouring his upload catalogue for all his videos! :)
@26:56 it the 30 second version. Millet hydrated in bag at 50% no rinse, no soak, no simmer. 4T unicorn bag unsealed. Pressure cook 2 1/2 hours. Cool overnight. Break, shake, inoculate.
doing the lords work
1000 g millet 500 g water
In the video he says 4A bags. Would you still need an injection port if you're not going to be shipping the bags? In another Humble Fungus video I saw they were doing break and shake before sealing, could you just inoculate the open bag before sealing? I think this is how Mossy Creek does it but I'm not sure. An injection port wouldn't save you from needing a flow hood right?
@@muudzi having an injection port sorta does save you from needing laminar flow hood since you aren't actually opening the bag and exposing the inside contents besides the needle but you can sterilize that right quick any way
500ml water = 500g water
oh... i feel profound kinship with you fellow adhd mushroom person. i salute the truly heroic effort you are making to stay on topic
At first I did not like this clip but I thought I would ride it out. You are full of knowledge and totally hysterical. Thanks for the good info.
He’s funnier than fuck
ur doin an amazing job man ive done endless amounts of research for over a decade now and u have sum of the most insightful info available
Lol I agree exactly the same. Fathoms above others on CZcams
Greatest grain prep video I've seen yet and I've seen many.
You should have far more followers. Thanks for all the great info. I’ve been growing for years and have picked up a lot of useful info and tips from you. Appreciate it!
The most excellent benefit of consistency is that if it is consistent for you it is consistent for your viewers as wel!. Thanks so much for sharing this.
Dude You Rock!! I been going back n forth with RYE and PFTEK. I watched this 2 times and I have a 95% success rate...I realize operator error was the 5% negative but I'm completely happy with this...fairly new at growing my mushrooms and I was getting ready to just go back to buying them....not no more!!! You Rock thank you from Chris in St. Louis Mo.
I'm only 3 minutes into this video and hit the subscribe button. I like the way you explain things my dude.
I have been a huge fan of yours for a number of years. Thank you
Hands down the best tek video I have ever seen. This guy is cool as fuck.
Thank you for your special bend of science wizardry/comedy, sharing your insights and adding this quality content for the good of the entire community! I hope this finds you well and I hope your upcoming merger in Denver is going great. Once you are open again, I'll be up from the Springs! Thanks Jesse!
I totally dig your whole professorial/magician flair thing. Throw in a lab coat and it's a ride worth taking again and again! My package from Myers showed up today, so I'm getting down to work.
Jess, I applied your same recommendations for millet, but in jars. I'm a hobbyist so the jars. By weight x grams of millet and 1/2x of water. Works well so far. My 1st batch of 5 jars are doing well and indeed it'd fast. I prepped 7 more jars today. So far no contams. A 2 hour min. sterilization. Thank you
Dude, do you have any updates?
Seconded!
Thank you for the tips for the pressure cooker! Boom! 🎉
"THERMODYNAMICS!!!" Ha ha ha! Love this guy! What an excellent informative video. Thanks man!
Not all hero's wear capes.... some wear lab coats 🍄
Learned so much in this vid. Could this tek also be applied to grain jars ?
You ever try it with the jar @ryan roberts
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(Thank you very much for uploading this! As someone else mentioned, it is insanely valuable that you explain the "why" of things in this field, rather than just the "what". I learn infinitely better when I know the reason something is done, and it also helps me to remember it better, too! Especially as someone brand-new to this hobby, I greatly appreciate your thorough explanations -- and your humor is silly and keeps my attention. Off to watch your other videos -- thanks a bunch!)
YES! I love that you explain things and talk so much. Thanks again!
So I tried this last night, weighed everything out to what he said water and millet. My bags are a different dimension but the same thickness (6mm) pressure cooked for 2 ½ hours. But I think I messed up because it was late and when it got done I just left them to cool with the cooker. When I got to them in the morning around half or more of the grain had bust. But the bags were sealed really good when I removed them. Oh and I think I probably ran a higher temp, as I let the weight rock instead of watching the gauge, I think the gauge said 17psi. I'm still going to try the bags to see what happens but I probably will not let them sit to cool in the PC next time
I’m one year late to ask a question. Hopefully I get an answer. Is it possible to mix bird seed with corn for grain spawn? Would it work?
You’re hilarious. I love the commentary! Made it fun while being 100% informative!
Jesse I know I tell you through like 5 different platforms, several times a day, but I fricking LOVE YOU, you’re my hero, and also my spirit mushroom
Great video! Great info. Great personality
Thoroughly enjoyed the info and presentation and funny quips, cheers
You remind me of my brother in so many ways, almost doppelgängers or something. Love your energy and content
Dude I fucking love you. Why didn’t I find you when I first started out.
Definitely one of the best videos for this.
One I love that we share the same name name , two I just like he treats everyone like we are dumb, cause we are he cares ands breaks it down as lamen as simple as possible
I loved this video! I enjoy your personality and how you teach! Thank you.
Oh man.. we all gonna love your video.. great character and superb teaching skill. Thanks 😊
I like your point of view! straight forward and comical! I'm a jar man myself but I guess I can use my bags. Millet is def what I want to get going. I guess I can colonize millet then use it as a mast for my 50lb bag of oats. Great video sir!
@*Green Fingered & Blue Thumbed* 👍🍄🌵🌱 agreed Wbs has kicked arse for me and keeps those flushes coming. I noticed a little bit more myc piss but nothing crazy. Now i have jars just waiting with some pretty strong OYSTERS in them. I like to take the old cakes outside and inoculate wooded areas for the next season. It's so much fun to see the fruits of your success.
I use 1:1 oat to millet all day long for our commercial grow. We call it the breakfast blend. Works extremely well. However, we do an overnight soak.
@familyfungi why are so many folks using oats and not straight millet? I assume oats add an additional element of nutrition when mixed with millet...
The best resource for myc hobbiests to scale up 👍
I love your energy and personality! I get a kick out of you! Great video dude!
You’re super weird but I learn a lot from yah. So from one weirdo to another, thank you man.
Just brilliant !!!! No comments for this
Wow! Big time saver! Thanks I’ll. Try it out!
excellent video, but temperature IS a key factor in sterilisation, some endos will never die at 93 celsius for x time, nor termophilic bacteria or other contaminants like prions. nothing that will impact mushroom cultivation but sterile is sterile, substrate is selective agar is not.
This is my go to channel now!! Like I don’t really need the other channels your. Awesome It helps that I’m in Denver to lol
i prefer milo over millet. you should try it. Milo, dry to boiling water for 5 min then strained, is perfect after pc. I think it is better. I get mine from the co-op for 14$ / 40 lb bag.
After straining no added extra water , before pc?
Awesome explanation. Thank you so much.
The way you put that water on millet was my favorite
Thank you fast and sweet
Bro, this video is perfect!!! I have adhd as well and I’ve just started a 50lbs white millet grain spawn batch. I was looking for a way to sterilize white millet without soak and simmer. You’re right about scalability of cooking / soaking, I literally don’t have enough room for pots for soaking that much millet. How do you estimate the amount of time to sterilize? Thanks for the tips!
About an hour hour and a half in a 15 psi PC or 2 1/2 hours in a 12psi PC.
@@sheeeitmayn4384 definitely no --- atleast 2.5hrs at 15psi. preferably 3 hours.
@@siandrusko9073 90 minutes is fine. At 12 psi you need to have it cook for longer.
I'm gonna try this in a jar. Hopefully it works the same. Don't see why it wouldn't
And its work?
@@peteg3610 tried it once with having the lids flipped as many suggested. Everything contamed. Either lid flipped sucked or i messed up somewhere
Were scientists! Im using a scale! I just about peed myself man. Lmao!
Love watching you! You must be a big movie buff! I think I caught two joker references, one grinch, and there’s many others! What’s up from Loveland!
Hey!!! Great video, and thanks for the humor... I have tryed Bird seed, wheat berry, rye, oats(leeeast favorite) but have not managed to pull off a no soak, no simmer that i was happy with ( uneven cooking last time i tryed) but i have been using the bigger spawn bags...gonna try your method
Are you using unicorn bags? I tried some cheap shroom supply bags and the no soak no simmer failed everytime because the bags needed to be wrapped in foil to not melt but also somehow the bags cook the bottom kernels popping them more?
Your a champion. Keep it up and shine on you crazy diamond.
Would this technique work for rye
This is amazing. Can you give instructions on the jar method. Thank you
Jars would probably work exactly the same, just keep to the 2:1, millet:water ratio. I'd say only fill it up about ⅓ of the way, it'll expand with water, and then you still have enough space to be able to shake it up. You can do some experimenting with it tho.
Great video
Thanks bro, my new fave mushroom guru. I'm starting a good sized farm, if you ever come to Oregon coast. Stop by.
Stuff like this helps me get out of the monkey see monkey do mindset.
13:59 idk why I loved this part so much, but I did.
going to give this a try, thank you man!
Greatly appreciate the video please keep it up!!!
Thanks for the free knowledge bro. You're frickin hilarious too
Hysterical & educational to watch and have learnt alot. was wondering what size pressure cooker this was and also if you can reuse the Unicorn bags, here in the UK they are really expensive, especially if you buy the ones with injector ports.
great video thank you! very well explained
I like your tek!!! Except I'm using the 4T Unicorn bags instead. It does seem to not perfectly evenly hydrate the millet, but it does seem to still do well! I like how you used grams for the millet and mL for the water. I would use mL for both the millet and the water, and it would be a tad too much water but would work in jars, just a pain breaking up the clumps.
i love the subtle "fungi came from space" comment. lmfao
Great video! How are you inoculating your grain spawn? Are you just sticking the bag and covering with tape? or are you using a gasket sealant injection port?
So I'm wondering if you can do an addition to this video that you did and explain the whole inoculation process the resealing of the bags that would be wonderful❤
without a commercial pressure cooker that provides a vacuum setting its difficult to "sterilise" grain or other material. liquids easy solids not so. Hopefully you will consider this further down the line. Commercial Spawnmaker here........
is it necessary for sealing to fill the pressure cooker with bags horizontally? i wonder if i can try this out with two bags instead of six in my 23qt canner. thank you for this technique.
This video is freaking awesome.
Agree about corn. The kernels quickly colonize individually, but dont cake as easily, if at all. Wish it was better, since it's cheap. Experimenting with everything. Quinoa, amaranth, farro- just for fun. Millet is quickest, but seems prone to contamination. I'm sure it's my cooking time.
Thank you very much for this information.
Why doesn’t this account for moisture in Grain?
For Me:
0:10 Millet hydrated in bag at 50% no rinse, no soak, no simmer. 4T unicorn bag unsealed. Pressure cook 2 1/2 hours. Cool overnight. Break, shake, inoculate.
Thank you for teaching me this tech.
Definitely subscribed and man you're the best teacher ever
Bro... you're the man!!!
Okie dokie home skillet! I bought some white millet and ima try this tech today
How did that work out for you?
@@calebishmael6052 first time not so well cause they were hulled Millet and basically swelled, cracked two jars.
Second time worked good but I want to add just a bit more water next time
Fantastic video. 👍 Great for people like me with OCD 😆
You're dope ! Keep up the videos!!!
Does the 2:1 ratio also translate to jars? Same with the time and temp?
Following
Trying to figure this out myself. I’m gonna run a few test jars with this 2:1 and with other teks for jars online.
It works in jars yes
I love how nutty and informative you are, you remind me of me. But more informative and in depth. Thank you so much for all the details, keep up the good work!
Thanks for posting such an informative video! I really like the idea of no soak no simmer -- imho repeatability is important at any scale. Do you recommend this process grains other than millet?
Edit: Also, you don't have any issues with the grains at the bottom of the bag being more hydrated than the top of the bag?
Hello there! And a very Happy New year to you.
This video is simply brilliant especially for a novice shroomy as myself.
I do have a question for you.
I'm using a presto 16qt PC and wondered if I am reducing the amount of grain to say 500g to accomodate the reduced space in the pc do i then half the amount of water required for the bag ie 250mls?
I'm being mindful re space as you recommend leaving enough space at the top to stop any issues with the valve.
Anyway I do hope this makes some sense!
I do hope to buy a 23qt presto but here in the UK they are not available and cost silly money to get them sent over seas.
Take care bud
I 'm thinking in your superhero past life you were certainly ThermoDynamics Man. Great to hear you discuss how time and mass impact the sterilization process. Thanks for the great stuff.
Hello! I'm new to mushroom growing. I have been reading that alot of growers add gypsum and calcium carbonate to their grain bags. I see that yours was just millet and water. Can you tell me why you don't use any additives?
Would this method be the same for mycology jars (using plastic caps w/ SHIPs and either stick-on filters or syrunge filters) instead of using bags? Obviously I'd downscale the recipe size, but I'm wondering about the technical stuff like "leaving the bag open to let the vaccum seal them naturally" -- would I leave the jars on but loosened? Or should I tighten the lids down all the way? (And of course foil over the lids)
My type of people; explaining the why behind everything. Tbh that’s the only way I remember things
great video man, lots of useful insights
What brand of heating/cook top do you use? Electric or natural gas?
What's the brand of your millet bag? Thank you!
Which millet brand are you using ? I’ve been trying this method with little wings millet brand from a feed store, and I am getting contamination after inoculation. I am pressure cooking with the same ratio of water to millet at 15 psi for 2.5 - 3 hours..
great content! I see you have something lining the walls of your pressure cooker. silicone mats? is this to prevent bag melt? Thank you!
Very good info thanks, been looking for the most cost/time effective method I think you got it, if I use 16oz grain jars and, how much millet should I use, I dont want it to expand and explode lmao
Great video mate, really glad I found your channel :)
Quick question, I have one of these bags with millet that wasnt used for a period of time and has dried more than I would like for use.
It has an inoculation injection point.
My question is could I use a sterile syringe and inject some demineralised/distilled water into the bag followed by my liquid culture to make sure it has the moisture it needs to inoculate the bag?
What was on the inside of your pressure cooker? I seen black silicone maybe?
I followed the process but ended up with slow growth from dry grain. Maybe it's from waiting a week or two to use after sterilizing but I'm trying 5% more water this time.
Did your results improve?
So, I have pint jars (4) that fit into my instant pot/pressure cooker. I bought Bob's Red Mill Millet (whole grain). Is this product good to use and also how much millet/water to the pint jars? Thanks so much. I'm a nubby and any help would be appreciated.
amazing results
This mad scientist just changed the game! Thanks man! You sound like Robert Downey JR in "A Scanner Darkley" keep making good content!
I must have missed it, but was the millet you used hulled, or unhulled?