Was Martin Scorsese Right About Marvel? | EFAP Highlight

The gang goes over comments made by Martin Scorsese about if Marvel movies count as cinema.
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[@NicktheLongman]

"That Grace Randolph video was awful, we're never covering her again." - Sentences that aged poorly

[@platinumdisco5563]

Martin Scorsesse Based?!

[@MegaStromboli]

Sounds kinda like Scorcese just has a vague definition of the word "cinema" and he conflates it with the movie's level of quality. So when a movie that's more tailored to public appeal gets called cinema, he's taking that as comparing it to the movies he likes

[@N00BSYBORG]

At the time, no, but he's absolutely right about post-Endgame Marvel. The MCU was never that deep but they still had some heart and thought put into them back then. Compare that to now when the director of the Black Widow movie basically said "Yeah I have no idea how Natasha escaped at the end so we didn't show anything lol."

[@drakeAbyss]

I find it kinda crazy that people still don't understand why Marty is wrong with his comments. It doesn't matter how shit a movie is(and Marvel are experts at being shit) but by the common definition of Cinema Marvel movies very much are. He spoke poorly and people ran with it and still try to defend the comments. Scorcese is a brilliant director but he said something silly.

[@BluntBrothersProductions]

I’ve learned to hate the word “cinema”

[@kangarooMonkee]

I thought he was stupid at the time, but after Marvel and Disney’s recent output… I still disagree.

[@robo-nidai4236]

No offense to Mr. Scorsese, he's made some truly classic films. But for someone that said "Marvel isn't cinema" and focuses on quality instead of entertainment, that seemed to have slipped his mind when he said "Yes" to being in Shark Tale.

[@FrenchyMcToast]

This is speculation on my part, but this was around the time that The Irishman couldn't secure wide release and ended up on Netflix. That must have really cheesed him off, and then some reporter asks him about Marvel for some reason and it set him off.

[@taylorlinyard3533]

2024 update Martin has started to walk back his words and according to George Lucas “cinema is the art of moving images. So if the image moves, then it’s cinema. I think Marty has kind of changed his mind a little bit.”

[@trigunfox2325]

You know who would've saved everything??? The Headless Horseman and his slightly heated axe😂😂😂😂😂

[@_Dovar_]

This could become a series within EFAP: "Was X right about Y?"

[@qing7902]

5:10

[@VerilyViscous]

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[@SpFlash1523]

George Lucas on Martin Scorsese's comments about Marvel movies:

[@RM_VFX]

So despite being a Netflix Original, The Irishman qualifies as cinema because it technically (barely) had a brief theatrical release...convenient.

[@gromgaming7438]

Awww this was before southpaw went schizo I liked him

[@janehrahan5116]

Person a. X is a bad Z.

[@jvshotta8845]

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[@Ko_kB]

I think the reason why he called Marvel "not cinema" is to avoid explicitly criticising them as bad, vacuous cinema.