For anyone doing the .75 inch Rough Country leveling spacers in the front, DO NOT REMOVE THE TRACK ARM BOLT. I just did mine on a vehicle lift but it can easily be done with jack stands. The hardest part of the job is reinstalling the track bar bolt. Without a friend and various size punches, or maybe a well placed ratchet strap, your going to be fighting this bolt a long time. But you don't need to. The gladiator has 2 upper control arms and 2 lower. This will keep the axle in line when going up or down NO MATTER THE DISTANCE OF TRAVEL!. Taking out the track bar bolt as per the instructions will cause more head ache then to just leave it in and get a pry bar to pull down on the axle when removing the springs. It is easly done with one hand and I'm not a big guy. DONT REMOVE THE TRACK BOLT, save yourself the headache.
Excellent! Thank you for the video. I was hoping I could do it without a lift. Going with a Road Armor front bumper as well so should cure the rubbing issue.
i have a sport JL and the first mod i did was remove the splash guards from the bumper. 8 screws and they are no more. they don't help at all with the MPG i had 24.9 before i took them off and i was at 24.9 after i took them off. i put Falken Wildpeak AT3W 285x70 r17 on my jeep and its a perfect tire size without lifting it at all. my wheels are 17x9 -6mm with a 4.76 back spacing.
285-75-17 tire size would have been a good fit without any modification, still 34 tall and 11 .2 wide, narrow better in mud and snow, take it from Old Fred 👍😎
What a beautiful piece of land you have there. You could really get some thinking done. Nice truck. I've driven all three trims, wish it had a little more power, I've always had V8 trucks it's hard to go down to less.
In case you want less tire poke and discover that a higher back space wheel will decrease your turning circle with 315/70r17 tires, 35x11.5r17 Nitto Trail Grappler MT(stated 34.76 diameter and on a 7.5 wide wheel 10.8 -11 inch width) would be a great fit on 17x7.5 wheels but my favorite size would be if they where made 35.1×11.4 or 285/85r16, 285/80r17 and 285/75r18(currently manufactured by Goodyear, Toyo, Maxxis, Nitto). Of corse a 285/75r17 on 17x7.5(17x7.5 method racing wheels are an option besides the various OEM wheels) are always a option.
Thank you for your video! Very educational and I too got the max tow package on my sport. Do you have any updates on your sport truck or recommendations on lifts or tire upgrades?
You don't need anything protecting the fog lights. If you get the steel bumpers on the JL, the metal bumper does't have any back on it to protect the fog lights.
You're missing some key information here which is the wheel specs...those wheels probably have a greater offset than the stockers which help with clearance issues. Wheels might be wider, etc
Looks so much better... The MAX-TOW was the way to go for sure... You could get wheels with a additional negative offset to pull the tires back in a little. Did you recalibrate for the tire size? I wouldn't go any smaller with the tires. Gladiators already look small with 35's. Smile Would love to compare MPG with the biggest tires from stock... Your content is VERY helpful. It's real world things MOST people do! As compared to drive it home from the Stealership, cut the frame back 10 inches, drop in a Hellcat, add 40's, change the axles, cut half the back off the cab, and I could go on.. LOL Well done!
Thanks for showing us the video though I will not get s Gladiator. Why don't you just get a diff bumper? I sold my JK a year before for Gladiator but was disappointed the way it looks and the high pricing. I'm eyeing on the Bronco in 2020 now.
Nice truck though and I want one when I turn in my JL lease. My 16 jku had 35w and my 18 JLU has 33s. I love the look of 35s, but you have to change more things and other things wear out quicker etc. I put about 7k into my JKU including regearing. Ive put 1000$ into my JLU. the 33’s are a good trade off unless you really need clearance or just want and can afford the look of 35s,37ss. Etc
Great Video. Are you happy with the Milestars? Heard the center crown makes them amazing. Thinking of doing 265 70 17 Patagonia. Why your video is Spot on for me with a stock sport jt
Would u consider getting 306 vs 315? I was considering 285 but like the look of the 35/315 how about. 34/305? Great video and helpful. 2021 willys here.
The Max Tow package and Level 1 Rubicon are 95% the same truck. But sadly enough, the Rubi is still going to hold a noticeably higher resale and trade-in value. If you can find a brand new Rubi for less than $47,500, I'd buy it over a Max Tow at like $45K...Simply because of the resale value.
Edwin Kriegel - I got my JT Rubi for $49K out the door, taxes, fees, extra protections, the whole 9 yards. It has the Granite Crystal Metallic paint upgrade, 3-piece Freedom Top, AUX switches, and the 285/70r17 Mud Terrains Upgrades. Hard to beat that deal. 👍🏻
@@TroyPosey mine is a Granite Crystal Sport, max tow, spray in bedliner with soft rolling tonneau, Alpine speakers (although still only the 5" radio). It was a the only max tow on the lot, but was a hard top. I told them that was a deal-breaker because I only wanted a soft top, so they switched the hard top with a premium soft from another JT. Max Tow was also a requirement because I wanted the Rubi axles and 4.10 gears. I got factory running boards from FB Marketplace for $160, and the Granite Crystal Rubicon wheels for $360 (no tires), also off Marketplace. I plan on upgrading to 35s with the Rubi wheels at some point. Added LED headlights and fender lights and upgraded the front bumper.
Edwin Kriegel Are you a member over on JT Gladiator Forum? You should join if not...TONS of good info on our Jeeps. I go by Alabama Mud Machine over there. There’s pictures of my JTR on there. 👍🏻 www.jeepgladiatorforum.com/forum/
I ended up putting 34's (285/75's) on my Sport S MT, mostly because they don't stick out so much like the 35's do and don't kick up as much mud on the body. They also don't touch anything inside. I added a 1-1/4" front spacer later, but that was more for looks to level truck out better.
Do you have a lift kit on this? Or is it as is when bought? I just got my first Jeep Gladiator sport and it looks like a plain Jane 😂 but not sure how to make it look like yours
What kind of tools did you say you used to trim it with do you think you could use like some hand snips to trim it. I got a sawzall but I don't want to butcher them. 315 70-17 going on mine in the am
@@ronjohnson7593 I did get both. The axles are 1.5" wider, which is one reason my wheels stick out so far. The "molded-in-color" fenders are just that: molded in the color they come in. The Overland flares are painted. Mine are actually molded that grey color.
So a 35x 12.50 17 tire will fit. I have already trimmed the fog light cover/ aerodynamic plastic. I want to keep the stock rims for now. 2020 Gladiator Sport. Thanks in advance!
i havent seen any dump in acceleration with my 35s, barely any breaking difference. but i have max tow with 4.10 gears. andy why is yours rubbing? mine doesnt and i have true 35s, yours at 315 are actually 34.5 or so.
I read that the 7650 payload is based on the factory tire size on the sport and changing it with larger tires would drop it down to the same as the rubicon which is 7000.
Not exactly. Tow rating and payload is NOT affected by tires and wheels because tires are wheels are considered "unsprung weight" and the suspension doesn't have to carry them.
They're great tires. In that video I admittedly wasn't hammering the throttle. I could have and the tires would have done a better job, but we were alone with no winch so I was being conservative. Overall, these tires are wearing very nicely and are smooth on the road. I love them.
@@4-LOW Great to hear. I have a set of Mickey Thompson ATZ P3 (35s) on my 18 Rube JL. They are tough, look great but sound like full on MTs on the highway. Tempted to try these bc of the road manners and the price.
If you mount those 35s on stock wheels or wheels with same spec as stock wheels THERE IS NO RUBBING!! I'v done it!! So you're not accounting for wheel specs, only "if 35s will fit without rub" .....They will if you have the right wheel specs without any modification to fenders.
I know I am a little late but did upgrading to the 35 lowered your towing capacity? I’ve been debating between 33 or 35 but don’t want to lose the whole point of max tow.
Technically, no. Wheels and tires are "unsprung weight" and do not subtract from payload or towing capacity. However, they will increase your stopping distance and zap some power from acceleration.
No, on these solid axle Jeeps the ONLY setting you can change is the "toe" and that can be done in the driveway at home pretty easily. Shops can't change the camber or caster on these Jeeps so it's not really worth paying for the alignment.
@@nocogarden yes of course, but Jeep also offers limited slip (which is a poor system). I think I read that also was not available on the Max Tow. So I asked the man with the vehicle if he had open differentials.
33s will 100% fit on a stock Gladiator Sport without any trouble. As you can see he squeezed in 35s which are larger, yet he had to remove the splash guards and will have rubbing when his axle lifts so not ideal. The 33s would be ideal.
I've been driving on this for a few days on and off road and so far there aren't any issues. It's all working pretty well.
@Youric Hunt Very possible. But will wait for a good coil spring lift with enough spring rate that I won't lose any payload or towing capability.
@@4-LOW
Are you on the gladiator forum?
How’s the ride quality now?
What size tires and wheels did you upgrade to?
If you mount those 35s on stock wheels or wheels with same spec as stock wheels THERE IS NO RUBBING!! I'v done it!!
For anyone doing the .75 inch Rough Country leveling spacers in the front, DO NOT REMOVE THE TRACK ARM BOLT. I just did mine on a vehicle lift but it can easily be done with jack stands. The hardest part of the job is reinstalling the track bar bolt. Without a friend and various size punches, or maybe a well placed ratchet strap, your going to be fighting this bolt a long time. But you don't need to. The gladiator has 2 upper control arms and 2 lower. This will keep the axle in line when going up or down NO MATTER THE DISTANCE OF TRAVEL!. Taking out the track bar bolt as per the instructions will cause more head ache then to just leave it in and get a pry bar to pull down on the axle when removing the springs. It is easly done with one hand and I'm not a big guy. DONT REMOVE THE TRACK BOLT, save yourself the headache.
You make some great vids for gladiator owners. I just got one so these are super helpful
Excellent! Thank you for the video. I was hoping I could do it without a lift. Going with a Road Armor front bumper as well so should cure the rubbing issue.
Thank you, I have the same truck. Firecracker red too. Ty.
Great video thanks! Makes me really want to get one now
She’s looking great!!! These wheels and tires really brought it to life.
Nice lookin truck!! 👍👍 amazing what a new pair of shoes can do to a vehicle
Thank you for the Video. My JT is on order from the factory and I was looking at lifts and tires. I'm just going with tires thanks to your video.
If you mount those 35s on stock wheels or wheels with same spec as stock wheels THERE IS NO RUBBING!! I'v done it!!
i have a sport JL and the first mod i did was remove the splash guards from the bumper. 8 screws and they are no more. they don't help at all with the MPG i had 24.9 before i took them off and i was at 24.9 after i took them off. i put Falken Wildpeak AT3W 285x70 r17 on my jeep and its a perfect tire size without lifting it at all. my wheels are 17x9 -6mm with a 4.76 back spacing.
I have same truck wide axle and all did a 35 tire with 2.1/2 level kit from icon. It’s perfect. Max tow packages great choice
It looks very nice with the 35’s. Good video.
Looks awesome with the 35’s. 😁👍🏼
I have a 2.5” mopar lift with fox shocks on 33s on a sport s and it rides just like it did before that
They fit perfectly, thank you very much
285-75-17 tire size would have been a good fit without any modification, still 34 tall and 11 .2 wide, narrow better in mud and snow, take it from Old Fred 👍😎
The wheels look good and I like it when the tires sticks out. Get fox shocks..
You can always go with different wheels with a higher offset to fix the tire protruding out from the flare
Swap the Sport bumper for a stubby Rubi bumper.... problem solved.
Or a Willys bumper
What a beautiful piece of land you have there. You could really get some thinking done. Nice truck. I've driven all three trims, wish it had a little more power, I've always had V8 trucks it's hard to go down to less.
I'd love the EcoDiesel
great video!! now I know what size tire I can put on my gladiator sport max tow, if it ever gets here!!
In case you want less tire poke and discover that a higher back space wheel will decrease your turning circle with 315/70r17 tires, 35x11.5r17 Nitto Trail Grappler MT(stated 34.76 diameter and on a 7.5 wide wheel 10.8 -11 inch width) would be a great fit on 17x7.5 wheels but my favorite size would be if they where made 35.1×11.4 or 285/85r16, 285/80r17 and 285/75r18(currently manufactured by Goodyear, Toyo, Maxxis, Nitto). Of corse a 285/75r17 on 17x7.5(17x7.5 method racing wheels are an option besides the various OEM wheels) are always a option.
Thank you for your video! Very educational and I too got the max tow package on my sport. Do you have any updates on your sport truck or recommendations on lifts or tire upgrades?
You don't need anything protecting the fog lights. If you get the steel bumpers on the JL, the metal bumper does't have any back on it to protect the fog lights.
I fit 35” on my gladiator rubicon and today I just installed my 3.5” lift on it looks awesome
Spacers, trim and off you go!
Looks great, i would be interested in seeing the clearance in a max articulation situation. I was surprised to see the fit!
Looks good. Just grab some wider flares and good to go 😁
Nice video..! Good information
You're missing some key information here which is the wheel specs...those wheels probably have a greater offset than the stockers which help with clearance issues. Wheels might be wider, etc
Good video. Thanks
Looks so much better... The MAX-TOW was the way to go for sure...
You could get wheels with a additional negative offset to pull the tires back in a little.
Did you recalibrate for the tire size?
I wouldn't go any smaller with the tires. Gladiators already look small with 35's. Smile
Would love to compare MPG with the biggest tires from stock...
Your content is VERY helpful. It's real world things MOST people do!
As compared to drive it home from the Stealership, cut the frame back 10 inches, drop in a Hellcat, add 40's, change the axles, cut half the back off the cab, and I could go on.. LOL
Well done!
Not yet. I do have the Tazer programmer. Just haven't used it yet on this truck.
Thanks for showing us the video though I will not get s Gladiator. Why don't you just get a diff bumper? I sold my JK a year before for Gladiator but was disappointed the way it looks and the high pricing. I'm eyeing on the Bronco in 2020 now.
Those Eurocovers should have been removed the first nice day lol.
Nice truck though and I want one when I turn in my JL lease. My 16 jku had 35w and my 18 JLU has 33s. I love the look of 35s, but you have to change more things and other things wear out quicker etc. I put about 7k into my JKU including regearing. Ive put 1000$ into my JLU. the 33’s are a good trade off unless you really need clearance or just want and can afford the look of 35s,37ss. Etc
OFFRD, I am really enjoying your content . Tomorrow we are going to go and try to trade our 2017 Harleys for a JT. Be well. Wayne
Congrats! If it ever stops storming here, I'll take the doors off!
Great Video. Are you happy with the Milestars? Heard the center crown makes them amazing. Thinking of doing 265 70 17 Patagonia. Why your video is Spot on for me with a stock sport jt
Very nice!!!
Would u consider getting 306 vs 315? I was considering 285 but like the look of the 35/315 how about. 34/305? Great video and helpful. 2021 willys here.
Hello - How long did it take you to put on that rough country 3/4" spacer? Also, is there any need for an alignment afterwards? Thank you.
@OFFRD with the air damn removed and using rubicon take off suspension do you think 35’s would work for on and off road? Thanks
Looks good
First thing I did to my JT is take off the air dam. Looks a lot cleaner
I like your mud gaurds! We're you happy with the 3/4 lift? and did you have a reason for not doing 1.5 inch ? Thanks.
What are the specs of your aftermarket Rim? Specifically offset?
The max towing package also comes with Dana 44s front and rear axles and 4.10 gears as an fyi
The Max Tow package and Level 1 Rubicon are 95% the same truck. But sadly enough, the Rubi is still going to hold a noticeably higher resale and trade-in value. If you can find a brand new Rubi for less than $47,500, I'd buy it over a Max Tow at like $45K...Simply because of the resale value.
@@TroyPosey I found a $55k Rubi marked down to $45k a couple months back. Too bad I already have my Max Tow Sport. Lol
Edwin Kriegel - I got my JT Rubi for $49K out the door, taxes, fees, extra protections, the whole 9 yards. It has the Granite Crystal Metallic paint upgrade, 3-piece Freedom Top, AUX switches, and the 285/70r17 Mud Terrains Upgrades. Hard to beat that deal. 👍🏻
@@TroyPosey mine is a Granite Crystal Sport, max tow, spray in bedliner with soft rolling tonneau, Alpine speakers (although still only the 5" radio). It was a the only max tow on the lot, but was a hard top. I told them that was a deal-breaker because I only wanted a soft top, so they switched the hard top with a premium soft from another JT. Max Tow was also a requirement because I wanted the Rubi axles and 4.10 gears. I got factory running boards from FB Marketplace for $160, and the Granite Crystal Rubicon wheels for $360 (no tires), also off Marketplace. I plan on upgrading to 35s with the Rubi wheels at some point. Added LED headlights and fender lights and upgraded the front bumper.
Edwin Kriegel Are you a member over on JT Gladiator Forum? You should join if not...TONS of good info on our Jeeps. I go by Alabama Mud Machine over there. There’s pictures of my JTR on there. 👍🏻
www.jeepgladiatorforum.com/forum/
the tool box you have in the back of your Gladiator is nice! …is it an original MOPAR accessory? 😳 price? 😄
If you load your bed down heavy wouldn't you need to install heavier springs like you needed to on any other pickup truck when hauling heavy loads?
I ended up putting 34's (285/75's) on my Sport S MT, mostly because they don't stick out so much like the 35's do and don't kick up as much mud on the body. They also don't touch anything inside. I added a 1-1/4" front spacer later, but that was more for looks to level truck out better.
Do you have a lift kit on this? Or is it as is when bought? I just got my first Jeep Gladiator sport and it looks like a plain Jane 😂 but not sure how to make it look like yours
What kind of tools did you say you used to trim it with do you think you could use like some hand snips to trim it. I got a sawzall but I don't want to butcher them. 315 70-17 going on mine in the am
Sweet garbage can; ours are the boring gray ones. The blue is stunning. 👍🏻
LOL!
@@4-LOW With the max towing you should have got the wider axles and the molded in colored fenders flares.
@@ronjohnson7593 I did get both. The axles are 1.5" wider, which is one reason my wheels stick out so far. The "molded-in-color" fenders are just that: molded in the color they come in. The Overland flares are painted. Mine are actually molded that grey color.
Looks good!! How do you like those Milestars? Thinking about picking some up for my LJ.
They are fantastic. Smooth, relatively quiet, wearing well, tough, and inexpensive.
Did you adjust your speedometer yourself or have it done? How did that go?
So a 35x 12.50 17 tire will fit. I have already trimmed the fog light cover/ aerodynamic plastic. I want to keep the stock rims for now. 2020 Gladiator Sport.
Thanks in advance!
You make me want a jt
What is the offset on those wheels? I have similar wheels on my JLU that I plan on moving over to my JT when I get it. Thanks for making this video!
So given the info would you rather go 275/70/18 or 285/65/18. Trying to keep my stock overland tires
So what dose you gas mileage look like not I’m planing to do the same to my sport gladiator
Nice wheels
So without some modification, 35's don't really fit the the Sport with Max Tow package?
Did you use 2 spacers on each side?
I tough all Gladiators came with Dana 44 axles and only the internals where different. But they are actually wider???
So those $30 lift spacers is all you need to make it fit?
Dont need the whole leveling kit?
hey...did you use spacers in the front and back??
i havent seen any dump in acceleration with my 35s, barely any breaking difference. but i have max tow with 4.10 gears. andy why is yours rubbing? mine doesnt and i have true 35s, yours at 315 are actually 34.5 or so.
I read that the 7650 payload is based on the factory tire size on the sport and changing it with larger tires would drop it down to the same as the rubicon which is 7000.
Not exactly. Tow rating and payload is NOT affected by tires and wheels because tires are wheels are considered "unsprung weight" and the suspension doesn't have to carry them.
@@4-LOW but it would affect the overall gear ratio which may affect final towing considerations.
Found those wheels but what Offset are yours?
Don't worry about your fog lights being protected
I have a new set of Fox shocks off my Gladiator Rubicon if you're interested.
Couldn't you find some lighter 35's?
How are you liking the Patagonia? I know your first mudding trip was a disappointment but you didn't air down. Thanks.
They're great tires. In that video I admittedly wasn't hammering the throttle. I could have and the tires would have done a better job, but we were alone with no winch so I was being conservative. Overall, these tires are wearing very nicely and are smooth on the road. I love them.
@@4-LOW Great to hear. I have a set of Mickey Thompson ATZ P3 (35s) on my 18 Rube JL. They are tough, look great but sound like full on MTs on the highway. Tempted to try these bc of the road manners and the price.
Do a lift kit. Please don’t go down in tire size.
Did you mention what offset that wheel is ?
my jeep gladiator overland didnt come with that air deflector?
Will 33s fit stock? I'm looking into getting wheels and tires for my sport. Wanting to know if I need to lift or not
I'm running 33s on my stock sport. They fit just fine, no issues.
If you mount those 35s on stock wheels or wheels with same spec as stock wheels THERE IS NO RUBBING!! I'v done it!! So you're not accounting for wheel specs, only "if 35s will fit without rub" .....They will if you have the right wheel specs without any modification to fenders.
What size wheels are those and the offset
I know I am a little late but did upgrading to the 35 lowered your towing capacity? I’ve been debating between 33 or 35 but don’t want to lose the whole point of max tow.
Technically, no. Wheels and tires are "unsprung weight" and do not subtract from payload or towing capacity. However, they will increase your stopping distance and zap some power from acceleration.
@@4-LOW appreciate the response, ended up getting 33/12.5/17 ridge grapplers with the shredder black rhinos.
I agree slightly smaller tire
Much better looking with 35" tires. You need a winch and custom bumper now.
I have a video on that! QRC bumper and ZXR winch. Thanks!
Looks real nice, would look nicer with 37" or even 40s
No problem with the Sport S max tow
Isn't 315/70 closer to 34" than 35"?
I’m thinking about 305/70/17 or 285/75/17 they weigh about same
Did you need an alignment after putting the spacers in?
No, on these solid axle Jeeps the ONLY setting you can change is the "toe" and that can be done in the driveway at home pretty easily. Shops can't change the camber or caster on these Jeeps so it's not really worth paying for the alignment.
How long did you run with this set up and did you have issues?
14,000 miles until I turned it in and zero issues.
Your Sport with the Max Tow has open differentials, yes?
Only Rubicon has lockers
@@nocogarden yes of course, but Jeep also offers limited slip (which is a poor system). I think I read that also was not available on the Max Tow. So I asked the man with the vehicle if he had open differentials.
What’s the size and offset of the wheels along with tire size? Thanks
17x8.5" with +10 offset. 315/70-17 tires.
can you put 35x12.5x22 on a stock gladiator
Do you know the offset or backspace on those wheels?
8.5" width, +10 offset
Do you have to regear with that size of tire?
My JLU had 3.45 gears and it was fine. Still accelerated very fast. This truck has 4.10s so it's no sweat.
So much better
What mud flaps are those?
What’s the offset of the new wheels you put on?
+6mm
Just change the front bumper by use Rubicon or Sahara front bumper
Do you use tpms sensors in those 35 inch ?
Yes, they are actually the factory sensors from the '18 JLU Wrangler. They worked flawlessly with no programming.
@@4-LOW oh ok thanks for responding
If you go to a 35, don't you need to re-gear your rear end? These tires can eventually hurt your motor and transmission supposedly.
Im looking to do 33s on my stock gladiator sport. You think they would fit without a leveling kit or lift?
33s will 100% fit on a stock Gladiator Sport without any trouble. As you can see he squeezed in 35s which are larger, yet he had to remove the splash guards and will have rubbing when his axle lifts so not ideal. The 33s would be ideal.
Whats the fuel mileage now with the 35s
Been running around 16 MPGs. Was doing 19 stock, and my JL Wrangler did 20 stock. The 35s seem to subtract about 2 MPG or slightly less.