I am so old that I remember a time when a hot section engine overhaul actually cost more than the avionics suite. Garmin has found a way to reverse those numbers.
No doubt about it. Garmin is the leader in glass. So, why s their GPS devices for cars so lousy? We have become used to poor electronics in vehicles and just accept them.
Tony Koester I have been using TOM TOM GPS my first said ‘turn left in 1/4 mile, then the newer were far better, am on my. 4th , this one gives multiple lane guidance, speed cameras, red light cameras, As you say, the Garmin sucks, I know someone with one . Cheers from NJ
Great sales pitch, but where's the balanced viewpoint? It's shiny I get it. How much, how often (change), what cost/benefit, wheres the cost saving, what can I do new, why should I (and not 'cos it's shiny!)?
"How much, how often (change)" We said in the video it's a half-million investment and we think Brown made plenty of examples of cost-benefit that actual owners agree enough with to drop that kind of dough, including fail-safe. A generator failure with the old setup means you're flying on the standby flight instrument in the middle of the panel. If you've paid enough flat-rate repair bills for a Primus 1000 (we talked to plenty who have, and we have been involved in some of these repairs) you would consider the investment. Same if you've used the Universal UNS-1 FMS and had a taste of a modern feature set. And as Brown said, owners like these specific airplanes for lots of reasons. It's cheaper to invest in a modern suite of avionics (along with other airframe mods) than buying a new airplane, while getting the same avionics suite that's in a new airplane.
Repairing 20 year old avionics will eat you alive over time. Plus, time is a consideration. Most people with these types of planes use them for business, so when you have an intermittent avionics issue, you take it in, they trouble shoot, put in a loaner part, go fly it, if it fixes it great....you only went to the shop twice and only had to cancel a few flights. However, I have seen people chase issues with these older systems for months and months....it get very frustrating when you are playing millions for the plane, 300k a year in salaries, 30k a year in training, insurance, hangar, subscriptions etc, then still having to fly airlines because of crap old avionics...half a million dollars start to sound like the deal of the century....
I am so old that I remember a time when a hot section engine overhaul actually cost more than the avionics suite. Garmin has found a way to reverse those numbers.
i realize I am kinda off topic but does anybody know a good site to stream new tv shows online?
@Fox Taylor Flixportal :D
@Kody Rowen thanks, I signed up and it seems like a nice service :) Appreciate it!
@Fox Taylor you are welcome =)
Need to add more screens in the shape of triangles on the sides.
They should include the yoke in the new ergonomics of the cockpit
No doubt about it. Garmin is the leader in glass. So, why s their GPS devices for cars so lousy? We have become used to poor electronics in vehicles and just accept them.
Tony Koester I have been using TOM TOM GPS my first said ‘turn left in 1/4 mile, then the newer were far better, am on my. 4th , this one gives multiple lane guidance, speed cameras, red light cameras, As you say, the Garmin sucks, I know someone with one . Cheers from NJ
Apple CarPlay is the Garmin aviation equivalent in cars....check it out...
Does the Garmin 5000 support CPDLC?
B747guy
Yep
hi, Can retrofit the citation X with garmin g5000? or just de XLS?
They should doing with citation X
Does the G5000 show AGL ?
Great sales pitch, but where's the balanced viewpoint? It's shiny I get it.
How much, how often (change), what cost/benefit, wheres the cost saving, what can I do new, why should I (and not 'cos it's shiny!)?
"How much, how often (change)" We said in the video it's a half-million investment and we think Brown made plenty of examples of cost-benefit that actual owners agree enough with to drop that kind of dough, including fail-safe. A generator failure with the old setup means you're flying on the standby flight instrument in the middle of the panel. If you've paid enough flat-rate repair bills for a Primus 1000 (we talked to plenty who have, and we have been involved in some of these repairs) you would consider the investment. Same if you've used the Universal UNS-1 FMS and had a taste of a modern feature set. And as Brown said, owners like these specific airplanes for lots of reasons. It's cheaper to invest in a modern suite of avionics (along with other airframe mods) than buying a new airplane, while getting the same avionics suite that's in a new airplane.
Repairing 20 year old avionics will eat you alive over time. Plus, time is a consideration. Most people with these types of planes use them for business, so when you have an intermittent avionics issue, you take it in, they trouble shoot, put in a loaner part, go fly it, if it fixes it great....you only went to the shop twice and only had to cancel a few flights. However, I have seen people chase issues with these older systems for months and months....it get very frustrating when you are playing millions for the plane, 300k a year in salaries, 30k a year in training, insurance, hangar, subscriptions etc, then still having to fly airlines because of crap old avionics...half a million dollars start to sound like the deal of the century....
Great info for 5% of your audience? Just saying;)