2017 Equinox Radio Not Working But A New Tool Saved The Day!
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- čas přidán 22. 07. 2023
- These 2017 Equinox Radios appear to have a known failure to them and the repair cost was kinda shocking. I just happened to receive a new tool from TOPDON that helped me fix this Equinox for a fraction of the cost.
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"Pretty Easy" understatement of the year lol
This is why I say that you are on another level! Your abilities to get the seemingly impossible done is what is setting you apart. Thank you for sharing this very useful information! 👍🏻 Keep up the great work, all the way from Toronto Canada (but American at heart!)
You are several steps ahead of the average technician. How many have the tools and knowledge to do board level diagnostics and chip programming? Very few. Enjoy watching your channel.
Brilliant work. I like to think this extra step is required to make it difficult to falsify VIN data, but the fact that it sends clients back to dealerships to replace a simple radio is suspicious. Crooks everywhere, ha ha.
Very good of you to show how we can help the customer ...even when the manufacturer will not.
Looks like you made the day to this client. Thanks for sharing👋
Nice one! Thanks for bringing us along and well explained and as always thanks for sharing 👍👍
Jake, this certainly was several levels up from finding a blown fuse in a fuse box. And I found this video very intense on my side of the screen. I'm thinking I'm going to have to watch this one again. Thanks for Sharing!🙃🙂
You are seriously a beast man! Awesome fix! I am currently in the process of trying to understand and learn eeprom and this video actually made a couple questions I had in my mind pretty clear! Thanks for all you do bro, You're setting a great example for the rest of us!
Great diagnostic and reprogramming. Great video as usual
Fantastic, cutting edge work. Very interesting!
This is good stuff. Thanks for showing something very valuable especially when new parts are hard to come by in reasonable means. I have had very good luck fixing the standard radios in the Chrysler, Dodge or Jeep when the Radio Volume doesn't work or it skips channels. Its the little chip in the top right corner of the board where the antena plugs in. A light re-flow work and its back to working order. No security pins to deal with.
Good stuff! Really no videos covering the tninja box. Nice to see it in action! Thanks for sharing!
I´m learning a lot with your videos. I hope you achieve the success you desire. Success always!
Really great work there. I spoke with topdon about file editing on scan tool and they are not even thinking about that feature for now, and the funny thing is the new autel im608II stoped having that hex edit feature also, wonder why autel got rid of hex edit on the new tool. Anyway that was really interesting information to know. And greatly appreciate you taking your time to explain the process and findings of it, it will definitely help a lot of us out there. 👍👍👍👍👍
That's AWESOME! GREAT WORK
Wish this had a Super Love selection! Awesome info.
Great great effort 👌 i used to do same thing on pvc injection machines it was quite fun to hammer your brain out to find what to edit in hexadecimal codes....cheers
Such an interesting video, thank you Jake!!!
Great job Jake. Not as easy as it looks. 👍
Great video. I’m totally amazed at your knowledge and ability to do this kind of work.
I just wish I kept my 1959 Mercedes Diesel car to avoid those kinds of issues. 😂😂
Interesting. It would be sweet if you could edit it on the scanner though
Amazing work🤙🏾
Annoying problem, Jake! Great work around, using a locked, but working, donor radio and rewriting only the VIN number - saves a lot of work!
Nice one!! Those grayed out areas almost look like corrupted areas, seeing how the address lines were still sequential, but had gaps and no data shown.
LVDS is that cable, like you said, Low Voltage Differential Signaling. Like CAN, a type of differential signalling architecture.
The end of that file is probably stored stuff off the radio, presets, user stuff.
@@autodiagyt I should have said bad memory blocks, like when HDD or SDDs skip over bad blocks. That program may list out the actual memory blocks and show the bad blocks. but, been a while since I have done any of that. And seems inconsequential to your issue and you got working.
Great video Man. I need to dive into programming and eeprom at some point. Thanks for more great content
Thank you for this video. Your reprogramming is way over my head, but following along, I understood there are ways around "can't be reused" in some cases.
You never cease to amaze me. Thank you for another great video. I've been looking into buying the best scan tool I can afford and I spoke with a guy who is a distributor for Thinkcar. According to him, Autel and Topdon buy their software from Thinkcar. That would explain what you saw in the pathway maybe? I'm no computer geek by any stretch of the imagination, so that's just a guess on my part.
@@autodiagyt Thank you very much. It is almost impossible to get reliable information these days unless you know somebody who is in the industry. You see videos where someone is claiming every scan tool on the market is the best to the point I have no idea which one to buy. I was looking at Thinkcar because Ivan uses a Thinktool Pros all the time, then I watch you use a Topdon. Maybe they're all so close in function it really doesn't matter. One of each would be nice, but I can't afford that. I'd like to keep it under $2K because I also want/need a Picoscope as you have clearly demonstrated where some things are impossible to diagnose without one.
Thanks for sharing!
Good one Jake!
vehicle may return with Identifier codes in all modules! I swapped eeproms on a 2018 volt, it was good for a while but returned with identifier codes in all modules. I had to reflash all modules & replace the radio with a new one, hopefully this will not be the case in your situation. What seems to unlock the used radio 70% of the time is to override the vin with Techline connect & reflash with the vin that the radio came from.
@@autodiagyt Misunderstanding! don't override the vin in the radio, Override the vin when Identifying the vehicle. use the vin from the vehicle that the radio came from. I've seen Identifier codes show up after several weeks, I know it sounds strange but I've seen this more than once.
This was a super interesting repair, I didn't know that in circuit EPROM programming is viable.
I've encountered this before. The problem is that the radio does not send a wake-up call to the screen. If you give the screen power with a control lamp, the screen and the radio turn on. I put a relay with a timer and it worked fine.
Great work
That was cool, i really want to get involved with this!!!
Great work thanks
I wonder if swapping the eproms over would also work as the vin would transfer with the original chip into the replacement radio.
Ironically your video of this popped up on my recommendations, lol i think i worked with this chip on my channel.. it is available on the Autel XP400 PRO.. its just labeled as 24C128 its the same chip as 24C32 and 24C64 just bigger memory space at 16,384 x 8 bits hence 128 trailing number as in 128 bits..
Good job 👍🏾
Yeah I’m pretty sure it’s in there but for some reason I just wasn’t seeing it that day.
Great job, Thanks! Would you be able to just swap the eeprom chips?
Great video. You definitely went above & beyond. I have no experience with coding or programming. Don't the scan tools that advertise the ability to code modules & change VIN's do this through the DLC?
nice work tks
GOOD job 👍🙏
When there's a clever fellow like you .... anything's possible ...
Great video keep sharing learning from you thanks.
Guru Jake, saved the customer headaches and money 😎.You make it looks easy. But it's not.😲
Well Jake another interesting video. I guess fuses can’t fix everything Lol. Thanks for sharing. Do any of those other readers work with the Top Don or does each reader work with its respective scanner? Just wondering. Your videos are so informative and well put together. This age of auto diagnostics is so damn interesting yet a lot of learning on my part. Everyone seems to have extreme amounts of computer knowledge. Guess I’ll keep on learning by experimenting and who knows something might click. Like the military taught me I will not surrender. Thanks Jake 👍🇺🇸
@@autodiagyt thanks Jake have a good weekend 👍
It's impressive what can be done. You saw the HEX compiler data with some neat details. Generally for many chip manufacturers, you can take the code and put it back to programmer language. I have a follow up question. How did you know what chip needed to be read and flashed pertaining to the VIN? As you shown, there were many microcontrollers. Great video and lab work.
Excellent
Man that’s sure a lot of equipment to work on a cheap factory radio. It would have been easier to install a aftermarket radio that work better than those cheap factory models. At work the Fords and Chevrolet vehicles radios have the same issues ..Crap! But the lesson you showed was priceless, thank you 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
thanx you
It was a very interesting video and your skills are top notch, but was it not simpler just to swap the EEPROM? Just thinking if that will work....
Thank you for sharing your knowledge. how do you tell which chip is the eeprom that you want to read
Just experience and datasheets.
The Autel, IM608 under eeprom ST in the M24XXX section there's a M24C128
Awesome job man! Why cant you just physically swap the OG EEprom chip into the donor?
I have an Autel IM608 Pro II. It does display this eeprom. Idk if they need to update the desktop application or what.
So why not just put in a nice aftermarket stereo for cheap? Is that even possible in this situation?? Or is this radio so integrated that it's required for the can bus to work correctly, etc.?
You have a great talent!. I will share with you a problem I have that has no internet resolution. Basically, I have a 2014 Chevy Equinox LTZ. The MyLink screen is black, no radio sound except a 3 second blip every once in a while. The touch screen is non functional. I have replaced the fuses, disconnected battery terminals for hours and reconnected with no luck. Any ideas about a fix before I take it to a Chevy dealer?
It’s probably just a bad radio.
wow very cool
The problem in this radio is the screen card plate,My solution was that I buy used radio that removed from Buick lacrosse 2010 (look same) and take the screen card plate from hem all work perfect
I have one question, is it possible to swap eproms and rework?
I believe you can also reset a srs module with that tool
The “Fox & Friends” is most likely the last show that was streamed before the radio was shut down, Jake.
Which scanner would you recommend that’s compatible with the 2018+ Chrysler secure gateway? I have a snap on ethos edge but it’s about 4 years old and a few updates behind.
@@autodiagyt I’ve been looking through their list of what they accept. Just can’t decide which route I want to go. I work for an independent shop
Jake, where would you recommend going to learn eeprom 101, the basics?
Awesome
Dang never seen anyone do something like that. How much do you charge for something like that. Cuz I could see that being around the same price as the new radio.
You need to go into your windows download options and click "always ask" -- so anytime you download something, you have to pick the file path yourself, rather than it happening automatically. That way you can organize where you want to put it at the time of download; rather than having to go find it and move it around after the fact. At least that's what I always do.... I would think there's a way to do it in the scantool also, being that it's probably android based. It's pretty weird that the Topdon has a "thinkcar" file. Thinkcar, thinkdiag, Thinktool Pro are all Launch scanners I believe. So to see their name in Topdon's software, it just shows how much they've either copied the software or are licensed users of it. etc. Not sure how that works, but it would be nice to know the distinction. Is Topdon just using their software and putting it into better hardware? Or are they just using it as a base and then adding more software to it? I wish they would answer these kind of questions, but this stuff is always kept secret for some reason.
I'm going to guess the Fox and Friends and that other title were actually stored memory of what they were last listening to most likely on Sirius XM. Back in the day I used a chip reader from EEtools. I used to pull eeproms from satellite TV receivers and play around with those so I have some experience with hex code and bin files.
@@autodiagyt We all learn from each other good stuff.
dear sir i am a big fan of you, i am a technician in gmc and subaru dealership, i have a one car subaru legacy 2013 model year 2.5 ej engine. after the engine overhaul ac working sometimes,i checked all power supply ground, ECM swap,,ac control module and control swich swaped with good car, checked all power and ground and can wire too, checked scan data (engine and ac) compare with other car found ok, when compressor on its work long time sometimes when accelerating compressor off then does not come back on again for long time, ecm don't command high speed fan relay and ac compressor, engine rpm 1300 to 1400 when ac on found. only 2 fault code allways popup b1608 sunload sensor and b1622 mode door actuator, please give some idea what to do next.
But did the blinkers make noise? Cause ny radio stopped working and i don't hear ny blink signals or when im selecting things like setting trip etc doesn't make a sound
I honestly don't remember.
Do you think it would be possible to swap chips from old stereo to new one that way it would swap the VIN information?
Yes.
I wish u could add miles on vehicles description, do u?
m24c128 may be the same in xp400 and vvdi2 possible xtool progr, have you tried?
I’ve not tried but yes I believe I probably could read it with those tools.
would swapping the board or chip not have worked?
Probably putting the old eeprom on the donor board would have worked unless it contained corrupted data due to the malfunction.
Hi Jake. What software and where can we get it to change the vin ?
The software is specific to the tool reading the eeprom.
Isn’t there a way to change the vin number by OBD on these radios with autel or topdon or maybe OBDstar and not need to open radio to change vin I know I can do it on BCM PCM and TCU
No scan tool can do it through obd that I know of. Older radios from like 07 you could do a function to relearn the vin. I don’t have any obdstar tools so I’m not sure what their capabilities are but they are meant for actual programming/cloning so it’s possible they might have a solution.
Ur right the video I was thinking about was from a older GM scannerdanner put out I do have OBDStar both keymaster and DC706 I should look and see if one of those can do it thank you
To use a used radio on Opel you have to divorce the radio before you take it out of the car if you don't you can't use that radio. That is what I was told when I tried to buy a used one
You are right. But there are tools that can match them anyway. LCD and Radio.
could you have soldered in the og eeprom or not good video there
@@autodiagyt as you were only trying to change the vin i thought there may that reason so would a corrupted chip cause other chips in the radio to go bad or just not work in the new board
I've swapped radios in my Cruze (another GM "global" car with a "silver box" radio). I was able to mess with the eprom with just $15 worth of parts from eBay. (Details in Cruzetalk forum). Note that you don't have to program in the VIN, just wipe the old VIN out. It will reprogram itself to the first car it's installed in. Also note that the eprom also contains station presets (probably where "fox and friends" comes from) as well as EQ settings (premium vs. non-premium sound). As such, you're probably better off copying the whole eprom. Otherwise, you have to make sure to get a radio from another car with the same RPO codes. (I ended up copying the whole eprom as the radio sounded like garbage with the wrong "tune" for the audio.) As it is, my radio sets codes because it can't talk to an external amplifier that my car doesn't have. But unless someone is looking with an advanced scanner, it's not a problem. It ranks right up there with codes set because I swapped my brake lights for LED.
Come to think about it, you probably need to match sound system RPO codes anyway. If you tried to put a non-premium sound radio into a premium sound car, the radio probably wouldn't talk to the amp.
@@autodiagyt 1) I didn't have a tool to do the reprogramming. 2) I was putting in a 2015 radio into a 2013 car to get "bendy lines" in the backup camera. There's a risk the reprogram would have defeated the purpose of the swap. It's not perfect, but I got what I wanted. :) If you can reprogram the radio, then that wouldn't be a concern in your case.
blink before you is basic a speed check, ford has it in there BIN files also- the fox jumps,
@@autodiagyt Open a BIN file from the pcm, it will be there also, which has no radio station.
Get a T48, It crushes pretty much any so8 . Much easier interface then things like the xp400.
I bet the AR32a would read it in circuit
Great video how can I get my hands on beyond compare software
Thanks you very helpful
What tool are you using that magnifies on a tablet and possible soldering?
Any chance we could get a discount code to purchase this scan tool ?
@@autodiagyt I’ve been watching and it’s between this and think tool pro from @PineHollowAutoDiagnostics. Seems for the price from aeswave top don has way more features
How much do you charge me if I send you my stereo so you can repair it? i have exactly the same problem on a 2016 equinox
Did u mention 8 hundred for radio, how does 4thousand for a 2017 Highlander radio sound?? Don't ask how I know..
That's just ridiculous.
The funny txt is rather the rds Informationen stored by the radio from the previous radio station.
its a i2x eeprom from st 24c128 generic, several programmer can read/write this, your new tool is very good... but pricy. good job. Ps- you need to improve your solder skills ...kkkkk
I have a strange fault, my radio “works” but there’s no display, there’s sound but no response from the screen or buttons, but there’s no blown fuses
That could be a few things depending on what vehicle you have.
@@autodiagyt 2013 equinox, same screen as this one
Friends don't let friends use the Mac 😇. There might be different programs (new version) running on the MCUs which would explain the coding differences. I don't think it makes a tut of a difference. As long as the VIN number is changed the whole thing should work. If the difference ends up being an issue, you can desolder the Bios from the donor and replace the one on the recipient radio with the one from the donor.
The programming tool I have gives an indication if the clamp is contacting correctly. Those clamps are really picky. And watch out for pin #1.
Beyond Compare is the bomb!! We use it at Microsoft all the time.
@@autodiagyt GM is getting nasty... The topdon programming tool is quite cool though. Steep learning curve maybe?
Do you think flat out resoldering the Bios (eeprom) chip would change that?
I use HEX EDITOR NEO
DPS would have done this thru the obd2 port in 2 minutes
Any chance you can pass on the details of the tool you was give by topdon
Cheaper to just install an aftermarket deck, no?
Not really
Seems to me, the fair and only correction for this
known defect, should have been lifetime warranty to the end- user paid by GM corp.. i do not consider simply compiling repair instructions that say" replace head unit" is honorable..considering that gm charged 32,000 dollars for that product. Anotherwards, gm knew an entire model years worth of mpus, and processors were garbage to begin with. Gm toyota and others bankrupted takata air bag corp..why dont they back us up even more and sue the pants off that semiconductor, or circuit board manufacturer.
Could you have just swapped the chips
@@autodiagyt but if it doesn’t work then go to the trouble of changing the vin on the replacement?
@@autodiagyt I don’t have the tools to program the vin but for 75.00 I can solder a chip
Uh no ty
As far as I'm concerned the new radio would have been my choice.
Your path is less profitable
THATS TRUE BUT THE WORK GOES FASTER@@nathanpallavicini6687
You're such a hacker Jake 😆
I love it!
These specialized expensive one-time radios and modules are a giant scam... Just a waste of resources and money by the industry that is supposedly concerned about the environment 🙄
@@autodiagyt The intent was to kill the value of stolen radios. But I'm sure the smarter thieves found a way around it leaving the consumers to pay the price.
@@autodiagyt That logic never stopped the do-gooders.
Brilliant video
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