Which Age Division Should This 30 Year Old BJJ Blue Belt Do?
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- čas přidán 2. 05. 2021
- In today's video is I answer a question about whether someone should do the Adult or Masters division in a BJJ competition. The video comes from someone who is right at 30 years old which gives them the option of competing as an Adult or competing in Masters.
He had planned on doing the Brazilian Jiu-jitsu tournament at the adult category but his coach said he wanted him to do masters. And his question is just to get some perspectives on the differences between the two.
That decision is ultimately up to you whether you want to compete at the younger division or not. But hopefully from the video you'll get some ideas to chew on to make the decision easier.
-Chewy
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I'm a 45-year old white belt lady. Just two days ago I had my fist competition. There were no other ladies in the masters division at my weight class (-120 lbs) so I had to compete against ladies who are 20 years younger than me. I did gi and no gi and only won 1 match out of 7. Will I do this again? HELL YES. (I am still awfully sore, though, hahaha)
Warrior!
That's badass
OSS!
I bow down to you for taking on the challenged. For me, score a point to those young opponents, is a win. Keep going.
Savage!! That's awesome.
Last time i entered as Masters I got bumped to Adult anyway as there was noone else in my bracket. At the time I was 38 and with 3 kids, one of them was an infant back then and robbing me of all my sleep - I felt the age difference big time. I only did gi and I was done by the end, no way i could have done another division lol. I'm 41 now, I still think about competing but I have even less energy now. We need more of us oldies to fill out those masters divs so we can all be tired and sore together :)
As a 47 year old purple belt, I can hang with the young guys. However, it’s after class where I feel it. I train three days a week so I can rest in between days. I need that day as I limp around from sore muscles, etc. - Also, my bones hurt after rolling with some of the bruisers in the gym. (Just joking, but serious at the same time.) I have to use old man strength and craftiness to hold them down some times. I even grabbed onto a pole once when I had the biggest guy in the gym in side control. He had no idea, until he heard everybody laughing and finally caught me.
I'm a 43 year old white belt and 3 days a week is all I can do too. Feel like I'll never belt up but I love it all the same.
44 year old purple belt, when I was coming up as a white and blue belt, 4 or 5 days a week plus open mat on Saturday was doable. Not so much anymore and I'm one of the oldest in the gym.
@@novyx1 I hear you and know what you mean. - Chris Haueter, a pretty famous black belt, stated that it’s not who’s here now, but who’s left that matters. I paraphrased a bit, but I’ve leaned that consistency and perseverance matters most. You will soon notice (if you haven’t already) that your three days a week, over time, will out pace those that take weeks off, find any excuse to miss a day or train 5 days a week and then quit, etc. There are guys that will be competitive monsters, but most guys will be sporadic. The consistent guys will eventually outpace the new guys who are athletes, strong or naturally talented.
@@letsgobrandon5334 True, plus my wife starts acting funny when I train more that three times a week. 😄
@@mouthguardcomic they start questioning where you get all this energy from and what for? And you're like, babe I can't strangle you, soooooo. Lol
Man this was something I have struggled with for a while. I am a 32 yo father of two and often felt less accomplished for competing in the Master's divisions. Everything in this video were things I was already telling myself but hearing it from someone else really helped, thank you.
One thing that really helped me was watching the Daisy Fresh documentaries, oddly enough. It really put into perspective that there are levels to this stuff. The depth that those guys are willing to go (training multiple times a day, living in the gym, competing constantly, etc.) is really admirable but something I am not willing to do; and that is ok. I have different things that I want from this life and therefore I must choose my priorities accordingly. I had a mentality shift to where I focused way less on the wins and losses and more enjoying myself at competitions and taking something away from every experience (even if it was just an enjoyable conversation that I had off the mats with someone I just met).
I tell young guys on a regular basis, I can do just about everything you can (aside from the stuff requiring really fast twitch reflexes), I just pay for it the next day (or days). I also think of Gimli in the Lord of the Rings. "We dwarves are very dangerous over short distances!"
I just did my first comp at 38 in the masters division (lost by points, and the other by advantage). It was a blast, but all the waiting around (Naga) really killed me. By the time I got to the last match I was already sore.
Went down to Adult one time shortly after getting my blackbelt at ibjjf Nashville because I had no one in my division. Those 10 min rounds back to back are rough!
But there are tough matches in almost every blackbelt division no matter the age. If this guy just got his blue belt his coach is probably having him avoid the 20 year old that has been a blue belt for 3 years. At masters he can better test his skills . Or his coach just wants more team points and knows he has a better chance at masters. Either way good luck at the tournament 🤙
@chewy, you mentioned that you can always go down in age bracket.
I’m 37 years old, can I compete in the kids division? I just want to make sure i can still hang with the 8 year olds.
asking for a friend ☺️
Adult division can be easier sometimes with all the TRT in masters 🤷🏼♂️
just tren harder 👽
@@xy5844 eat clen, anavar give up 💉💪🏾
@@xy5844 not really that simple when you get past 40.
@@AverageGIJoeOutdoors You're right-you also have to follow Shady Milkman's advice, as well
@@Tyrosine0910 I eat very well.... zero sugar..... zero artificial sweeteners....it helps... but after 8 years in the military and multiple deployments... i am banged up and don't hold up to training every day like I use to.
I’m getting ready for my first national comp. I’m a 38 year old blue belt.
What’s a national comp?
@@johnnyshepherd3055 I’m doing the NABJJF 2021 NATIONALS JIU JITSU OPEN in Arizona. I’ve only done Naga before.
i love your vids man! good vibes all the time it couldn’t get better than that❤️
Can 100% relate to this, thank you for the video! Was able to really relate to what you mentioned and it was reassuring to hear that stuff said out loud.
This is 1 of 2 channels I watch the ads on just to make sure you get some $ for the work you have put in. Thanks for all the time you give Chewey
Im 52 and competed in my first jujitsu tournament this past Saturday with gi, at grappling industries in CT. I lost my two matches to a 44 year old white belt although he had a few stripes more to my none. He felt more explosive, and was the better man that day.. Thank you for posting this Video. As a Senior practitioner, I can definately feel the difference with recovery in training to prepare, learn and persevering through the gyms changes of Instructors not being availble among other logistics of the jujitsu culture experience.. Keep your channel active young man. Excellent content. 🤙🏽👊🏽
I competed in my first tournament about 2 months ago. I'm a 42 year old white belt. I'm only 153 lbs so I'm on the bottom end of the lightweight division (150 - 159) and I don't cut weight. I travelled the day before and stayed overnight. They put me in the 30 year old division, same weight, and I was ok with this. I woke up the day of the competition and found I didn't have a match anymore, the other person they put me with was cutting weight and wasn't going to make it so he changed weights at the last minute (I found out at the competition). This left me with no match after all the work I had put in getting ready to compete. I showed up at the arena to find out what options I had available to me. They gave me first place for my original division and gave me the choice of moving up in weight and compete against the 30 year old guys or I could go all the way down to the adult division in my weight. I chose the adult division. I figured, I roll with the 20 year old guys in my gym so why not? I won my first match 11-0 against a guy that was exactly half my age. I was feeling pretty good about myself until I got submitted in 2 minutes during my second match. I finished second in that bracket and left my first competition pleased with how I did. My professor told me I should be proud, most people my age wouldn't even attempt to enter the adult division let alone place in it. I leave for my second competition later this week. I am alone in my age and weight bracket again. Fortunately, there are matches to be had in the 30 year old bracket so I am thankful I don't have to do the adult division again. It has never been about winning or losing, it's always been about testing myself to see what I'm capable of. I hope I'm capable of recovering faster than I did after my first competition 😂 😂
Loved how Chewy presented the purpose of the Masters Division and how it makes BJJ competing more accessible to everyone. I do think that another angle with the coach asking the blue belt to compete in Masters is to increase the club chances of winning medals esp if there is already a club athlete in that adult category (and doing better overall if there is a point system counted towards best club of the comp). I have seen this with some coaches who want their athletes to spread across divisions for these reasons.
Great video, I struggle with this question all the time. I’m a 49 year old blue belt and have been doing Adult divisions lately because being in New Zealand there are less competitors so often there are only a few Masters competitors. A couple of other things to consider is whether the competition is No-Gi or Gi. Young guys are fast and explosive which makes No-Gi even harder. With Gi competitions you can slow it down and turn it into a grind using old man strength. I actually prefer longer matches as the young guys get less explosive the longer the matches go so it evens up. I actually think Masters divisions should only start at 40. I think physical capabilities don’t really drop off until after 40 and that most guys in the 30’s will be stronger than young guys, albeit as Chewy said family and work probably account for a decrease in performance not so much age. Finally, it also depends on weight divisions. In the lighter weight divisions speed is really noticeable, but less so I. The heavier divisions. When I dropped to middle weight I noticed the young guys were super agile, but when I moved back to heavy it wasn’t as noticeable. But I say if you are in shape and uninjured and like more of a challenge then do Adults division.
I turn 44 in August. I’ve got my first tournament as a fresh blue belt in 3 weeks time. I’m competing in the adults division (also first) as opposed to Masters 3 under 70kgs (154Ibs) because I don’t get many matches at my age & weight. This tournament is already sold out as it’s one of the first major local ones in Sydney since before pre-Covid. My body is aching so much from training that I’m missing out on a lunchtime class today just to recover. I don’t care about winning or losing (often perform better when I don’t) as long as try my absolute best on the day. I’m aware of the challenge ahead of me.....Bring it!!! (I’ll post again after my tournament to let you know how I went) Thank you Chewie for all your words of wisdom up until this point....I watch all your videos. Much appreciated!!! Wish me luck....I know I’ll need it. 😬👊🏼
divisions dont matter if you just get on TRT
@Joe Unisphere what do you think the biggest downsides are?
As a 41 year old Blue Belt (?) i thank you for this input
This is useful information. I’ve completed and somehow didn’t realize that masters 1 starts at 30. Thanks brother.
😂man chewy you always hit it on the nail 😂👍 I cant believe I'm masters 1 😵👍and im also glad even you as a pro speaking relatble things ITS SO COOL MAN BIG UPS TO CHEWY
Happy to help brother
About to head down to my first BJJ class in 10 minutes, spent the last week watching ur videos and they have been great about what to expect
Howd it go?
@@cartoonking9735 i dont know if i am going to go back, i sent chewie a message about it. I could not tell who the coach/professor was and honestly just did not feel safe
@@andrewbryant7089 thats pretty weird. Usually says on their website. They usually are the one teaching you a few things to drill. What happened you just went in, no coach was there and some random dud me rolled with yoh and you never asked him?
@@cartoonking9735 different people were teaching the drills ranging from blue belts to brown belts. Their site does list the coachs name, but i didnt know who that person is or if he was even there. Pretty much yeah everyone lined up on a wall and some blue belt stepped out and told everyone to do warm up rolling. Thankfully Chewie told me about tapping cause i got no warning from them just thrown into it
@@andrewbryant7089 hmm maybe the coach was ill or something. Mine also had me sign something ssying like if i break an arm i wont sue or anything. Id maybe go back and ask to speak to the coach or message them on theit site or socials or something. I know my gym is doing open mat only becayse of coronavirus and arent allowed to teach. But theyre still helping out us white belts giving us a few thungs to drill. And if youve jad to roll on your first day and you think everuones trying to rip your head off on your first day it sounds to me like a shit gym. At mine i saw a purple belt.roll with a new lad on his firstnday and the purple belt just got in mount and tried to let the whitr belt escape. They shouldny have to prove they can tap a white belt especially one on their first day
I am about to be 40 in July, and have my first comp in 2 weeks (NAGA Vegas), and I see that the rest of the field is younger 30 year olds. Good thing I train with the early 20 year olds.
Will be 38 in a couple weeks. I've been debating whether to start going back to the adult division as I'm finding the Master's division is usually only 2-3 other competitors. Been doing pretty well in the Master's divisions, but I'm looking to get more rounds in for each division.....
Good advice I'm 29 this is on my mind a lot
Both! I was at this tournament and this woman in my division did the masters division and adult division gi and nogi then I was mad for not thinking of it first.
Fuckin love your videos man, starting BJJ myself this month, your videos have got me so pumped to get into it
It’s sucks the first month, grind it out and you’ll really fall in love! Chewy is awesome can’t wait to go to his seminars. I’m 6 months in now myself 😁
@@xavier9319 Yeah I'm prepared to get my ass handed to me every night but thats part of the learning process I guess 🤣
That’s awesome man. Just commit to getting destroyed for a while and don’t give up. Focus a lot on escaping and defending in the beginning. Chewy has great instructionals and BJJ Fanatics has a lot too. Highly recommended getting a few on escapes and studying them a ton. That will fast track your game more than anything
@@cdb0816 cheers bro I've been watching a ton of drills like shrimping just so I know (roughly) the techniques before I jump into it. I'm actually excited to get destroyed because I'm keen to see the massive difference in levels between me and the high belts, so much to learn.
@@mattharris5235 that’s awesome, man, that’s a good attitude to have. For some people it’s inspiring to see the vast difference in skill level, for some it’s demoralizing. It’s good you know which one you are. If you’re focusing on solo drills, I highly recommend John Danahers solo drill instructional. It’s free on BJJ fanatics. If you can practice those while you can’t be at the gym, you will see very noticeable improvement
I was worried that I'd only be able to compete in my age group. Glad to know I can continue in the younger side if I wanted to.
In a major tournament even at blue you will run into young pros who’s been training since 8-10 years old. Many of them are home schooled and train full time. Last worlds and pans I saw a bunch of these dudes with headphones on and Gis full of sponsorship patches. They have also competed in hundreds of tournaments. These dudes will wreck a recreational blue belt without a sweat. If you’re a working stiff do yourself a favor and compete masters where you can compete with other recreational guys.
Hey huge fan of your videos, I wanna train BJJ but all I have access to in my area is an ok judo gym and my brother who has some wrestling experience. We wanna train together at home and have been watching bjj videos to see if we can learn it just by practicing on each other but we don’t know where to start. Any advice?
But man, maturity is a huge benefit. I would have exchanged a lot of kilos and training time when I was younger for being more mature.
Two advantages. They are more likely to have two knees that haven't been cut on by an orthopedic surgeon.
Being in Australia and a woman, even when signing up for masters, you often get merged into adults anyway for lack of a competitor. But most of the people that I or my training partners have ended up with have been lovely people.
The other thing that our club has found with the adults vs masters, and it is more prevalent in the men's, is that the adults are there to leave everything on the mats and this is where most of the injuries seem to end up happening. Where as the guys in masters seem to remember more that this is a hobby for most people, not their job. That at the end of the day, everyone has to go home to families, mortgages, jobs, and other responsibilities. So they are a bit more careful not to get injured. So generally, for the masters, the club recommends at least the first comp in masters and then move down depending on how that goes.
Lol, my son was signed up for gi and nogi. The competition was running behind schedule so they started nogi while gi was still going... he literally did a gi match, they called him over from the next mat as he was getting hi hand raised, he strips off the gi, does his nogi match, the same thing happens, he puts the gi back on wins 1st gi, then got 5 min before heading to his 2nd nogi where he came up short on points.
Dear God I needed this
This is so true. I competed in master 1. I am 38 and competed against 31-33 opponents. I can tell that i need like 7min - 10min to recover for the next match. Those guys are ready to go after 2min of rest.
Here’s a more positive take on this person’s question. Maybe your coach thinks you’ll clean up the master division and he wants the points for the team but at the same time doesn’t want to tell you that and put unneeded pressure on you.
That's what I was thinking. Almost like sandbagging
@@stupidandboot4507 yeah but let’s not use that word since it’s typically viewed negatively 😂. I’m a 43 purple and remember a tournament I entered where their where no competitors in master no gi, so I competed against 20 something kids in adult. Lost my first match. Oddly their were 3 competitors in master gi. I won the division and subbed both guys. I remember thinking where were the 3 of you for no gi
@@chriso8726 they felt like keeping their ACLs and MCLs intact. I don't compete in no-gi either. I'm old, if my knees get ripped apart my BJJ is over. I enjoy it way to much to lose it like that. I get to train 3 days a week plus open mat so I chose gi days.
Great practical knowledge
Thanks!!
You’re so humble with your tiny little logo in the corner.
I am 36 blue belt about to do naga. There is noone in the master at my skill level but the adult has 4 other people in it. My coach feel like I will be fine at adult. I will see because my body is no young anymore
I am 38 purple belt, I can do adults, I did Naga on the 1st of May 2021 and I am still sore and will be for a while, I need more time to recover.
lol I’m 35 7 months doing bjj did well in an in-house tournament and my coach suggested I sign up for adults without hesitation.
I competed in my first tournament last month. I did masters in GI and adult in NoGi. 4 matches of each and I didn’t really see that much difference. Sure the young guys had a bit more stamina but the strength advantage goes to the masters. There was only 6/7 registered in masters and I didn’t want 2 matches against the same guys. It worked well for me. 210lbs division
I agree with you there. I’m 34 and compete in adults. Sometimes I feel like I’m wrestling children cuz of the strength advantage.
Chewy is so right though on recovery. I have to plan out my training like a scientist, one mistake and I’m set back a few days or even a few weeks.
Keep it up, man!
@D. Jiu-Jitsu grappling industries Philly?
@@cdb0816 that’s the truth! I actually thought I was going to compete again2 weeks later. It took a week to stop finding new injuries and 10 days to train at 100% again lol
@D. Jiu-Jitsu how’d it go today? Won the master’s Gi and took bronze in adult NoGi with a 5-0 record.
My 30th bday is the day of this comp and I don’t know if I should kiss my youth goodbye and do masters or get fed in the adults haha
Just turned 31. Recovery blows and you do all the things to try to recover lol
I am 45 yo. and I am refferee. It is the best way let my hand be up after every fight :)
Another great video. Completely agree about recovery being harder between matches. It seems to be getting harder to bounce back and I'm only 32.
I struggled with the idea at first, but happy to hang in the Masters division now. That being said, I would still compete with the Adults if there is no one else in my division.
I'm in a weird spot too lol. I'm 29 and competing for the first time as a blue belt. Played soccer in high school but nothing athletic after that until I started training last year. I have the benefit of not beating my body up through the years but still wonder if I can hang with a younger dude of the same level.
At 29, you should still be near your physical prime
@@Tyrosine0910
Im trying to undo 10 years of physical sloppiness lol
@@jamesduzjitz_91 Oh, gotcha. Yeah, I'm 28, turning 29 in a few months, & I'm enjoying my last few years before my old injuries start coming back to haunt me.
I’m 50 age is a factor
Forgot that masters start at 30, will def pick masters when available
I’m a 51 yo 3 stripe white belt (with a judo background). The choice is easy for me. Last thing I want is to get injured by some super athletic (but not any more skilled) young guy who just cranks everything! Lol. In fact,I’d rather go against someone far more skilled but that’s my own age than a less skilled young guy. I just did my first BJJ tourney a couple months ago and competed in the over 40 which they called the “Executive Division”! Lol.
Hey chewy. Got a tourney in 2 weeks and there’s no one else registered in my division. there are some people in the 2 divisions neighboring mine so I’m curious how do most tournaments handle this assuming they don’t just refund my registration?
In my small experience I've always been given the option to either move up a weight class or move up a skill level (in nogi, never competed in a gi). It's always seemed tournaments generally want to give you what you've paid for
You can enter the master 1 if your 29 and your 30th comes in the same year as the competition
I'm 46 and last time I competed (as a blue belt) Master's division was tough. Those 30ish year old kids have a lot of energy and are too fast. I still made fourth place.
Looking forward to my first competition soon and I've no issues letting the young whippersnappers smash each other. Haha
at 42.... I get nothing out of competing against dudes who are 18...19... years old...... that is why there is age groups in my martial art..... I for one would not feel like I accomplished much if I was 18 and whooped up on a bunch of old dudes all day......... I went to a competition and had to fight up into black belt category and had to fight 18 year olds all day...... I have won a tournament like that and also had my rear handed to me at one...... so I guess it just depends on the competition.... but it is normally not fun at all to compete against children who are basically still bullet proof...lol.
I've been off the map for seven years just got back on.... I am a purple belt 41 years old but still have dreams of competing. Honest opinion from everyone.. Is this an unrealistic goal?
Chewy: "I like the shorter matches ... because I like to get after it"
OK, wrestler.
In judo it is the same woth masters i am 46 my body cannot compete with the young guns trying to make thr olympics i would straight up get murderd great adive takr care of your body to keep doing what u love
Max was here
I do masters if anyone else that age shows up. Otherwise I do adult. The difference is masters is other people who took up grappling later in life too. Adults is a bunch of jacked up 18 year old blue belt wrestlers.
Yep and even worse the 21 year old collegiate wrestler straight out of college in his physical prime lol.
Good point about starting later.
Ha ha ha ha ha ha . . . Late twenties and thirties = spring 🐓
Yep 😂
My cardio has always been shit so at 29 i feel no difference 😂
Hey, how can I also send in a question to Chewy?
Email, Ig or here
Hi Chewy, my name is Baran and I started doing jiujitsu 3 months ago, I like doing it and it is very interesting but sometimes I get really frustrated and I feel like crying but I hold it in and then I feel like I get moody after that and kind of ruin the training for me and my partner. So I just wanted to ask if you have seen anyone get emotional during training or after and how people reacted to that. Thank you!
I can't message you but I need help finding a good bjj school in Sweden please help :)
You sell gis???
33 and just started today.lol
That's crazy that master's division starts at 30. It should be older than that IMO. There is a big difference between 30 and being in your 40s.
Theres masters 2 3 4 5 etc its not just 30 and up
I'm the wrong side of 35 and still clinging on to competing at adult. I actually do well and enjoy the challenge but I know I'll have to move up when I'm a 40 year old purple belt
Turning 30 this year and I'm gonna compete in both, whatever
Look I hate to say this people but if your discipline has a special division for those of you over a certain age that means you're too old, because they've had to lower the "standard" to accommodate you no longer are able to meet the "standard" that your discipline requires so yes you are being "Pitied and Patronized" 😳
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There is this chick in my gym that kinda always wants to roll with me or stand next to me while watching demonstrations. When I go get water she’s breaking her neck looking for me it’s getting bad. I’m looking for a way to tell her I’m not interested without offending her and not leaving my Gym. Any Advice ?
im a scorpio, just because everyone feels the need to state something about themselves.
First?
Gold star for you.
I have my 30 year old students do the over 40.
They never check
can you shorten your mustache please
hey man.. . do me a favor and change the culture. . . you need new people in the game , bring money to the sport, treat white belts with more respect when they come in your gym . .. dont turn people away from the sport. and whats up with not having true weight classes in jiu jitsu.. . the sport really should change some things.