Has the Body Positivity Movement Gone Too Far?
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- čas přidán 4. 07. 2024
- Dr. Phil discusses the highly debated issue of whether or not the body positivity movement -- a belief system that embraces bodies of all shapes and sizes -- has gone too far. Since 2020, 36.5% of Americans have been considered overweight and 32.5% obese. Are we doing too much to celebrate the plus-sized? Not according to Lexi and her husband, Will, who say they’ve struggled with their body image their entire lives and have now found freedom in letting go of the need to control their weight and instead accepting themselves the way they are. Dr. Phil also meets CZcams personality John Glaude, who says he once believed in the body positivity movement until it almost killed him. Plus, Dr. Howard Liebowitz discusses the medical realities of being overweight, and nutritionist Kelsey Koehler offers tips to set practical goals for weight loss. (21015)
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She is sitting there smiling and nodding but you can tell she isn't listening to a word she doesn't want to hear.
She's crazy. Legit n
Healthy fat people 🤣
Narcissistic personality disorder to some extent I believe.
And her husband holding her hand like ur right Bae not them
Of course she doesnt want to hear it because shes making bank on this. There was a look on the Husbands face that makes me think hes an enabler.. Shes actually attractive if she lost the weight im sorry to say but the dude would be punching above his weight class. If she lost the weight she would find even more value in who she is and realise that she settled for mediocre because she was being Lazy Her losing weight is threat to him..
Remember this anyone trying to lose weight: if you’re being called fat phobic for losing weight, you’re doing something right
my man
Facts!
I actually got rid of my weight loss video as I stupidly put body positivity on it and got attacked by these people
@@sburns3020 put it back up again!
That’s not happening. Making up rhetorics doesn’t prove your point
Jamie Lopez literally just died at 37. I don't understand why people are confusing hate with genuine concern for their wellbeing
OMG - ai did not know that. He was so funny - bless his family, what a terrible loss.😢🙏🏼
Well, in all fairness it’s not always coming from a place of concern. I’ve had some people say some absolutely horrible things to me especially on social media. It’s important that I also mention, however, that I’m definitely not a part of the body positivity movement. No one is truly happy at this size.
@@StrawberryJam806 strawberry jam
It’s not confusing. It’s a ideology, like radical feminism or racism against whites. They are breaking our society from inside to make us weaker.
This was really terrible. She had gotten up to 800lbs at one point and then lost about 400lbs but it was too late. Really really sad.
I will never understand how someone’s personal choice to lose weight ,workout, and live a healthy lifestyle after being overweight, equates to being “fatphobic” .
It’s literally not. And most body positive people would agree with me on that. Body positivity is literally loving yourself no matter what you look like.
Because they're jealous.
Because they need the validation from other people staying fat. When someone does what they are unwilling to do (lose weight) it makes them feel bad. Their insecurity is on full display because that person has “left the church”. It’s literally like a religion to them. They WANT people to stay fat and miserable like them
No need to understand, there is no such thing as fatphobic. They are just making some worlds up thowing them around like its nothing.
"Fatphobic" is not a real word
There are no fat/obese 90 year olds. How can anyone possibly say that obesity does not cause health issues, and lead to a shorter life?
My grandma is considered obese yes I'm very impressed by her will to live and thrive. Unbelievable.
Most people dont even reach 80 nigga
What about Henry kissinger?
@@angele4890 imagine how well she could live if she wasn’t obese.
@@jimmybeans1175 She's actually pretty happy being she 80. 🤷 Idk if she cares being so old, she is loved very dearly.
Fat acceptance or whatever aside, Lexi was one of the meanest girls in high school. No joke. I have friends who still have nightmares about this girl. Last year she went viral for saying that not being sexually attracted to fat people is equal to racism. Girls issues run way deeper than her flawed opinions on health.
Oh i remember her! Watching her say that was disgusting. Especially since im a black woman
💯 She has a nasty attitude and they should have shown videos where she shows her condescended views.
oh shes THAT girl. she is so condescending in all of her content
Her hate pours out through her eyes and fat pouty mouth. I figured she was always like that. She's a narcissist with an inferiority complex.
I could tell right away when she said "middle aged white men" that she has an ignorant attitude! What does being a middle aged white, black or brown man have to do with this topic?? And science is science and it doesn't matter what race or gender the person is whose spreading the facts to the masses.
You can't deny the health benefits of getting healthy and losing weight. I was always around 115 lbs, and around 22 I packed on 80 pounds. The way I felt physically was horrible. The changes that happened to my body were horrible. Hygiene was necessary daily. My bowel movements were horrible. I'm 26 now and have lost most of the weight I gained, save about 20 pounds. I feel so much better PHYSICALLY. It has nothing to do with being fat or thin, it was all about how my body felt, and it didn't feel good when I was big.
Congratulations on the weight loss 🎉❤
I was always 120-130 lbs very petite and gained 60 lbs which was horrifying to me as my weight was one thing I had control over in my life at the time. Now that I'm free from abusive ex I don't loath myself for being overweight. I'm making changes to lose 30 lbs right now and I'm not hating myself through it. My blood pressure became too high due to extreme stress but now it's due to my weight. I have no desire to have a stroke! Lol
At my heaviest I was 160 pounds that’s only because I was pregnant with my son. Even then everything felt so uncomfortable. My joints hurt all the time. Me feet always felt like they where going to scream at me to sit down. Even my ankles hurt. I’m not a very big person to begin with. Right now I’m probably only like 100 to 110. When I gained that baby weight man I felt so terrible. It’s not because I was pregnant it was just the weight.
@@liamjames5470 congrats on the weight loss 💕
@@stuff1784 I just gave birth that how I dropped the weight lol. I mean most of it anyway. But it still was like damn I don’t understand how anyone can let themselves get that big.
John stole the show. He's such a nice guy. He's an inspiration. I lost 115 pounds this year, and I can only imagine losing 180 pounds.
I think everyone came for John lol
WELL DONE!!!
I am anorexic and it amazes me that obese people do not know that they also have an eating disorder. My great grandpa died bed ridden because of food and my grandma is headed in the same direction.
As a family we decided to sit her down to try to help her and I told her if you lose weight, I’ll gain weight and we are in this together. So far so good, wish us luck!
U can do it! I know u can show ur ED who’s boss! Ur worth it!! 👏🏽 don’t ever give up! U deserve it more than anything! 💘
I think it’s absolutely amazing how you and your grandma have a pact to get healthy. I wish you all the luck!👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👍🏻
My daughter is a severe anorexic and I'm morbidly obese. She absolutely hates it if I lose any weight. It triggers her horrifically to up the ante on her starvation. If you have any advice on how I can help her I would really appreciate it. She gets very verbally combative with me, when I try. I think I am not approaching her correctly. I'm working right now to try and get her approved for some help through the insurance. Is there anything that I can say or do? What has helped you to get better? Thank you.
What are you talking about? Fat people which I am one definitely know we have an eating disorder.
Not every obese person has an ED.
I feel as I am a big guy I can speak on this. I am 513Lbs and I can tell you right now that being my size is not okay but I don't want to be shamed for it, but it shouldn't be encouraged. It is what it is and I'm an adult and I chose to do this to myself. When you're overweight to the point of obesity you are putting so much strain on your organs and your muscles and bones. I hope people can lose the weight.
You can lose the weight, you have a great mindset. I wish you the best
You can do it hun put up a good fight! 10min walk a day. That’s it.
Your self awareness and taking responsibility is inspiring!
Right on...yeah I don't feel like shaming people for being overweight is ok, but telling obese people it's ok to be obese isn't ok either...
You should know people in the gym are more likely to help you then shame you just for trying hard cause like them, getting good physique takes a lot of work.
i can't believe that being called an ex-fat is an insult now, what a time to be alive...
I can't believe being a white middle aged well educated doctor is an argument to dismiss scientific facts🤯.
To me it's still just a disk file system
Simple question to ask anyone who has went from terrible lifestyle to healthy lifestyle.. Do you regret it? Nearly none will say no. Ask that question in reverse and chance are high most will say they have regrets in letting themselves go down the comfort hole of poop.
I lost 15kg/33lbs recently and began to live a healthier lifestyle and I do not regret one thing about it! Life is just better when you're healthy and more active and have more energy 💪
That's a fact!!!!
My inspiration, John (ObesetoBeast) helped me lose 110 pounds and changed my life. I’m glad he was on this segment, he handled himself with class. Dr. Phil, take a hint from John Glaude on how you motivate people.
He’s an inspiring guy
Dr Phil tells it like it is he doesn’t need to sugar coat it
@@kylieknight2365 Absolutely. That fat woman is in complete denial. She is not healthy. She needs to lose about 100 pounds.
Some people are motivated by tough love and “telling it like it is,” but many more are moved with empathy and understanding.
@@BunniBeshara amen 🙏🏻
Here from Obese to Beast! 👏🏽 he’s a rockstar!
Hubba Hubba Hubba 😻
He is I’ve watched him for years and he’s never changed his humility
Same 🤩
He is amazing! I recognize you from Alans page haha 😂
John is such an amazing person, so much positivity, and genuine compassion!! I've been a fan and follower of him for years, currently at 140lbs of weight-loss myself. So glad he was able to contribute here.
Great
That’s an amazing achievement!
"people are telling me I'm gonna die by 30" you're not even 30 yet?!
How old is she?
@@aaronhamos5925 20 yrs old
Are you serious? Where did you get that info?
@@taitatu7390 Wtf She's younger than me 🤡
@@taitatu7390 Huh? I thought she was much older.
Beautiful at any size? Sure. Healthy at any size? No. Too skinny = bone fractures, loss of period, not enough calories for brain function, atrophied muscles etc. Overweight: everything listed in this video plus dozens more they didn't say.
And no…being fat isn’t beautiful period.
@@BeneGesseritSaya I think being chubby is cute (my own opinion) I actually prefer a little heavier. But full blown obese? Yuck 🤮
@@nottocleverxx614 chubby isn’t really obese, just overweight
This whole "beauty at any size" thing is one giant hypocrite soup.
It started with making beauty less important, it was all about self worth without beauty. Beauty in the person sense not the body sense. But that's not how it is. It's still about the physical features.
In our efforts to make it seem like physical beauty doesn't matter we only reveal how terribly important it actually is. When you see comments under the most troll looking woman you've ever seen going "YAS queen" and "omg so gorgeous". All that is revealing is "we can't tell her that she is ugly, because not being beautiful physically is a terrible thing. We should reveal that to her it will ruin her day. It would ruin my day if someone told me I wasn't attractive."
Essentially it's so important to be attractive that we wouldn't want to burden someone with the reality that they aren't.
Thus the word has lost all meaning . if everyone is beautiful then no one is.
@@BeneGesseritSaya - Agreed. They are hideous blasphemous deformations of the human form. Bleech!
John has such a kind heart, and I'm proud of his message. Well said John!
In all seriousness, she should be asked one simple question: “do you want to get fatter?” I’d love to hear her response
You are a genius! I'm totally using that.
BOOM!!! Her agenda would only allow a yes answer. Lest she admit that being a "Fat hater" herself is inevitable.
I love how she responds so well when you sugar coat the same information to make her FEEL good. They’re aware the message is truth, but it’s all about “don’t hurt my feelings!”
Yes John!!! Good for you for standing up and saying what you said at the end
@obesetobeast you did great John
Tht woman was so condescending to john imo. She was talking to him like he was a child telling her a made up story. She was dripping with narcissism and loathing for those who have lost weight. Big props to john for not letting her "throw her weight around" ... as they say
There is a difference between true body positivity and promoting obesity. Its fine to be happy with who you are, but when magazines have covers saying "fat is healthy" its a whole other ballgame. Does this mean you should make fun of fat people? Of course not! But if you truly love yourself you should realize that weighing 300+ is the opposite of healthy, and can cause health problems let alone shorten your life.
I agree
AGAIN FOR THE PEOPLE IN THE BACK!!
Exactly! And she's young so her body is still able to withstand her obesity. At 40+ it will not be the same. She's playing Russian roulette.
Them trying to say the scientific research is skewed… 🥴🥴🥴. The body is not made to be morbidly obese.
Exactly, the FA community can't hear you over their crunching yet
Her definition of body positivity translates to "I want society to accept and overlook my self-destructive eating habits because I am lazily complacent or surrounded by people who have issues of their own and can't shake me from my apathy".
I’m plus size and I am not happy about this at all
💕
You fat, not plus size
I hope you have supportive people around you to help you fix that, or you know how to motivate yourself. I respect people who know whats wrong and wanna change their lifes alot. Your life is worthy and bad habits shouldnt limit you forever. I can imagine its hard but the harder it is to achieve something, the more proud and thrilled you will be.
Don't give in! This documentary allows us larger people to display our rights. Let me re-iterate - there is NOTHING wrong with being fat!
Sorry to be real here but.... There are a lot of things wrong with being overweight... but hey, some drug addicts live a long life, some chain smokers live to be 100yo, some anorexics reach an old age... let's celebrate them to. You can't only justify one health issue.
Real health is based on FACTS not delusions and excuses
It’s one thing to accept the fact that ur body is different, it’s another to become ok with letting go and not caring about urself and titling it body positivity
Something tells me her man might be a feeder. Bc if u pay attention to those pics they put up of her, it looks like she started loosing weight mayb in her late teens early 20's.. and thn something changed. Bet it was tht guy came into her life
@@j.y.3604 yea u can still promote it in diff ways but people are not promoting it correctly. And that’s what’s influencing all these opinions and ways people think about themselves and not in a positive way
Ikr isnt body positivity about people who are missing an arm, with skin diseases, with a fake eye, balding at a young age etc..
@@arbitrary_raspberry for real tho, ppl horribly disfigured in traumatic accidents, ppl born with embarrassing or strange birth defects ect. ect. We don't hear much about those ppl anymore. But tess holiday can get the cover of sports illustrated, I think it was. I'm sure it's way more thn just one cover where she is featured
All these obese “body positive” people tend to be young. Their health hasn’t caught up with them yet and as they age, their joints and overall health will be severely impacted. I can agree with beauty at every size but certainly not health at every size.
That's what I said! The reason you're encouraged to lose weight while you're still young is because you're less likely to have PERMANENT damage to your health that way
It's true. I've been super morbidly obese for 20 years now. In the beginning I was very flippant about it because I still felt okay. It wasn't about health then it was just about ....I can look however I want to look it doesn't matter..... Well, Now I can barely walk, I struggle to breathe especially at night. My entire body hurts ALL the time. I have zero quality of life, and I'm in my mid thirties, living like I'm 70. It's not cute or just whatever anymore.
Well said Kristin!
100%
Well I was thinking the exact same thing. This will catch up with them at some point in their future.
Notice how everyone else clapped when John said he lost 180lbs? But Lexi didn’t. She’s so bitter and narcissistic she can’t even be happy for someone else. 🙃
Celebrating weight-loss pushes the idea that fatness is bad and something to change. 🤷♀️ Praise healthy lifestyle changes, not the numbers changing on the scale.
>Celebrating weight-loss pushes the idea that fatness is bad and something to change.
Because it is. Being overweight, severely underweight, cutt1ng your skin, partaking in body modifications, being a drug addict, etc - these are all bad things.
They’re bad because it shows a disregard and self-harm toward one’s own body. One’s body is their temple, and should be treated with respect.
All the aforementioned also show a sort of mental weakness within a person, which is something people should strive to overcome and fix, not be complacent about.
@@cozyeden fatness is bad and that is a fact. And if the body positivity movement is so happy and confident about their weight then how are you triggered because someone lost weight? Makes no sense . Yes the scale is important as well as the healthy lifestyle.
@@cozyeden Being able to say he’s lost 180lbs is an accomplishment for him. He changed his lifestyle choices and the number on the scale followed. She wasn’t happy for either.
@@cozyeden it's bad just like undereating is bad. And it effects the country as a whole. It's no longer "it's my life it doesn't effect you" oh yes it certainly does.
It's bad for society and bad for the environment.
I was looking at photos of my mother and her friends in the 70s...all SO slim. Everyone was slim. I'm slim and I can't wear my mother's old clothes, they're too small. Couldn't believe how much this has changed.
Food wasn’t as processed then as it is now I believe
Fat people have always been around even in the middle ages.
Junk food is easier to access now too. One phone call and you've got 5k calories at your door in 20 minutes
The whole environment wasn’t as polluted back then too. Less sedentary lifestyle….think no electronics like that too. Which is why when you leave the first world you don’t really see fat people too.
Marlyn Monroe wasn’t that slim and i think she was alive during ur mother’s time so don’t say everyone was slim in the 70’s
How about loving yourself enough to treat your body with love by eating well and exercising.
But u can’t make a person do it if they r happy being fat and ugly than let them because the usa is about freedom and we have the freedom 2 choose
As a over weight person who lost close to 100lbs .My fist diet I was 10yrs. I'm 43 now 175lbs the lowest I've been since I'm 12yrs . I know now that the way I was able to lose it once I truly ACCEPTED myself naked locking in the mirror. Oufffff . No words can explain. Also the lock down helped me without even thinking or trying and I would weight myself once every 2 months.
Anyways, what I want to say is that body positivity is to embrace yourself to get to your BETTER self.
It's not to make the negative become the positive in your life 🤷🏾♀️😊
You know when I was about to be overweight, breathing while sitting is such a struggle. And that was me ABOUT to be overweight. Not actually overweight.
So how could these people just sit and not be bothered by it?
No offense, but that's a bit of a stretch. If you're dealing with labored breathing and you're not even in the overweight category, you should probably see a doctor about it because that's not normal. I'm still technically on the lower-end of the obese category (still on my weight loss journey) and I have no such issues breathing.
For sure, it's not healthy being overweight or obese, but let's not go overboard with the rhetoric.
@@MoonsideResident only when sitting and it's not like that bad but just annoying. Already over it though.
JOHN WAS AMAZING HE WAS SPITTING
My man chose to speak facts
John needs his own show he's so inspiring and kind!
Agreed! His youtube videos are great in the meantime: obesetobeast.
I'm all for body positivity. If people want to die early, by choice... Let them be.
Eh i would be fine with that if they weren't becoming huge influencers on Instagram and TikTok which are apps primarily used by kids aged 12-19. So they are seeing these terrible lies that being fat is fine, especially with the large, even a majority of the population of children in America right now, and they are being fed this BS that it's fine to be fat.
That I'm not okay with
I had gastric sleeve and used to be quite overweight myself . She’s dead wrong. I work in healthcare. I’m so much healthier now without the extra weight. I’m a Paramedic and it’s much more difficult to perform live saving medical procedures in the field on severely obese patients. Making it less likely for them to survive heart attacks as well as other medical emergencies. Not to mention just carrying them to the ambulance takes up extra valuable time that can make the difference live and death.
As someone who's struggled with my weight my entire life, I think it is always important to accept yourself wherever you are at a particular moment. In other words, at times when I've been at an unhealthy weight, I've always tried to focus on healthy ways of reducing my weight while NOT hating myself for having gained the weight to begin with. After all, caring for yourself is the only way to permanently change your lifestyle.
What I'm troubled by here is that I feel gaslit. On the one hand, this woman is saying something I agree with, that we should all accept ourselves as we are. Accepting oneself where we are, however, does not preclude creating positive lifestyle change. And while I agree that your any individual's lifestyle is, for all intents and purposes, none of our business, when you follow up your shtick about self-acceptance with some hokey science about "fat people are more likely to survive heart attacks," I wonder what your true agenda is.
Further, wouldn't it be more genuine and helpful to say, "I accept myself where I am, even if it's not the healthiest lifestyle." Food addiction is a real thing that kills people all the time, and treating it as though it's a healthy lifestyle is just plain silly and simple, in my opinion. Where's the nuance? Where's the reflection of the complexity of life and psychology in the world of abundance? I think it's important to discuss such things in a manner that looks toward evolution rather than complete surrender to our baser compulsions.
Absolutely right! I relate to both sides of the conversation here. It really is a fine line between accepting yourself and maintaining a healthy relationship with food
Great point and see that's the key you should do your best to feel good about yourself and if you just say this is the way I am and I can live with it that's fine but these people and I do mean certain people are telling other people kids everybody you know what you're beautiful it's OK to do this Eve's much as you want do whatever you want it's OK this is beautiful. Now because you have a social media following some people are going to take that as Bible and listen to you and harm themselves. You do not have the right to do that to other people So is it because she feels so bad about herself or is it for more views and more money that is the question
She's in denial and miserable
Being fluffy and happy is different than being fluffy and unhealthy
I'm a bigger woman age 44 and the only health issues I have are hormonal (ovarian cysts) which I had before becoming fluffy lol and spinal stenosis also before being so called overweight. I'm 230lbs have had 2 kids via c section , a tubal and had one ovary removed because of a massive cyst on that ovary. Was down to 160 and I have developed another massive cyst on the remaining ovary which I can't afford to have removed.
@@gelkana7869 Do you get winded when you go up stairs? I guarantee your endurance is non existent.
I'm obese and I think using "fluffy" to describe unhealthy obesity is another lie one tells themselves. Fluffy is a cat or bunny, not a person with a huge belly. That's just fat.
Fluffy is a nice way of call fat people that they are over weight . I haven't find one for people that have to explain something I already know .
By her logic, people who smoke, drink heavily, and take illegal drugs are just accepting themselves as addicts.
It’s no wonder simpletons are misinterpreting this statement. You can’t apply that logic here. She’s saying health and self- acceptance are not mutually exclusive. Someone could be the most unhealthy individual, and that’s still just one part about them. She’s trying to put out the message that she knows the health risks, she knows the dangers. She’s simply deciding not to hate herself based on this one fact about her. I don’t know why it’s in everyone’s interest to be so disturbed by that.
@@taylorredstone203 She is setting a bad example to others and she will be costing the health care system more over the years. Obesity is a growing problem (pun not intended) that is costing billions of dollars in health care and now it’s a problem for millions of children.
And I do lol
@@johnfairweather9188 No one said it wasn't an issue. But how is obese person going to approach weight loss without the abilty to accept themselves at any stage? This is why people struggle to get out of it, because society deems them a lost cause before they can even attempt to lose weight. Why does self-acceptance need the pre-requisite of being thin?
@@taylorredstone203 It’s terrible when someone wakes up in the morning and they’re suddenly 300 pounds overweight.
How about accepting that you’re putting on weight and starti to so something about it RIGHT AWAY and not waiting until your life is in danger? Stop giving people excuses for destructive behaviour.
The gentleman that lost 180 lbs looks fantastic!
Thing is there is a point where body positivity becomes unhealthy. You should always be confident and happy, but you should never accept bad health even the ones that cause it.
they don't have bad health so?
@@branmuffen The overweight ones? They either already do, or they'll acquire bad health as they get older. When people are relatively young, some of their bodies are more resistant to the damages of obesity & they might not yet be showing signs of morbidity. Yet. Regardless of whether or not their health metrics were already showing troublesome signs at young ages, their bodies WILL undergo wear & tear at a faster rate if they remain overweight. Their risk of serious issues, such as heart attack & stroke, WILL be elevated if they don't lose the weight. This is a fact. A cold, hard fact.
I think body positivity isn't even about health. It's for people with defects and something wrong with their body that is out of their control. Being fat is bad choices. Not something you born with.
@@branmuffen In early stages heroin addicts don’t have health problems, either.
Let’s test your hypothesis. We’ll have her run a 1/4mi to see if her weight has already caused some degraded health.
I lost 50 lbs and I am now trying to become bulky and get a 6 pack. I don't think altering your body for appearances is body shaming. I don't think not doing it is body shaming either. I think wanting to improve yourself in some way should be praised.
I genuinely felt so inspired by John's story. I have been on this journey for less than the month and I'm already seeing progress and people like him show me that I can do it.
That woman is delusional. This toxic way of thinking needs to be stopped.
Toxic is an ineffective word. Overused. Same with "needs to be stopped." Don't bother commenting.
She is not delusional she’s happy the way she is let’s just hope she doesn’t have 2 worry about making cash though
Honest opinion - I’m less concerned with this and more concerned with *underage* females exposing themselves on Tik Tok and other platforms while calling it “body positivity” *Disgusting parenting*
I would much rather people be accused of accepting obesity than people openly encouraging pedophiles to look at their *children* in bikinis online.
Let the church say AMEN
Tik toks entire business model is sexualizing children, and while they sit in skimpy clothes twerking to wap people will have the nerve to tell you its you who is seeing them sexually, this culture of encouraging pedophilia is disgusting
You did great John Glaude
Well i just watched a short where her and her boyfriend "sang" that Dr. Phil and all the doctors there were wrong and that she actually proved them wrong and mopped the floor with facts. You can't help those who don't want to be helped.
I was obese for years, and recently lost about 12kg so now I'm merely overweight :D. Already I feel heaps better; I have much more energy and my sleep apnea is mostly gone. I still have to lose about 12kg more to be in the normal BMI which I am determined to do.
I just watched John's video about the show filming lol. I like his ability to tell a story better than Dr Phil lol
I just watched it too! Then came straight here to see if they did him dirty
Yup I'm here straight from John's video🙂
Dr. Phil is a quack, but i’m glad John got to spread his message! He is a very positive light for people everywhere.
Yes, you did amazing John! Very compassionate and informative.
Wow dude are you some kind of hot shot? Calling a man who has done this work VERY WELL for 40years a quack is so dumb of you. He’d run circles around your little brain.
He’s not just a quack he is a straight up bully
This is by far the most intellectual and therapeutic Dr. Phil episode up to date. I like the idea of him bringing people together into a discussion in order to reflect and learn. Dr. Phil should do sessions like this more often. He should allow his audience to speak and make suggestions in order to solve their problems together as a community.
That's a pretty low bar.
When the physician said fat is inflammation a light bulb went off in my head. I never thought of it that way and it explains alot of issues I've had since I gained a little weight. It's motivated me to change.
Here for OtB. He's been the true star here and I'm so glad he is helping to lead this conversation online and in other media.
I think they made John look like a Saint! Which of course he is but it's still nice
Her soulmate calling her fat was the best moment
a good friend will tell you your fat is unactractive and is not healthy.
a fake friend will tell you , you look gorgeous and healthy.
@infinite warfareSC what ?
only animals that have to go thought hard winters store fat.
im fact 98% of animals dont suffer of over Weight.
animal kingdome is all mustle not fat.
@infinite warfareSC look up in the dictionary the diference between anecdotes and facst
@@infinitewarfaresc2176 fat is unhealthy and not beautiful.
I lost over 100lbs and was told by a larger body positive advocate that I was fatphobic for wanting to lose weight and then actually lose weight. It made me feel awful. She made me feel like I wasn’t allowed to be openly proud of my weight loss because it was ‘promoting and celebrating diet culture’ when I wasn’t doing that at all, I think people can be beautiful at any size and what they want to do with their body is their choice but being made to feel like that for making my own self feel better didn’t feel good. I have gained a lot of weight back since losing it and am currently in the process of losing it again because I’m terrified of the health affects it could have as I get older and I want to deal with it while im still young. Of course im upset that I’ve gained it back but I feel that body positivity to me is not hating myself for gaining it back, but accepting that it’s happened and just trying again. Because if hating yourself into losing weight worked, it would have worked by now. I recently was in hospital with suspected blood clot in lungs (turned out to be muscle strain) but because I was larger, they ran more tests to make double double sure because it just is a fact that as a larger person, blood clots etc. are more likely and it’s scary and it just doesn’t feel good at all. I think acceptance is one thing and a good thing, but a narrative of health at any size is really dangerous.
Completely agree with you. You deserved much better treatment from this person. I think that hurtful comment was more about that person 's own personal agenda. We can't ignore the health benefits of being a healthy BMI. I don't think we can win with other people's opinions. I once had a friend who used to post comments saying 'men don't like skinny women', or 'men don't like bags of bones'. At the time I was quite thin (but a normal BMI) as I cycled a lot. Other people would make negative comments about how I had lost weight but I was getting fit. You should be supported in what you've achieved and what you're going to achieve, whatever that may be.
It’s clear that some people have their fat as part of their personality and identity
Wonderfully put ❤
I'm 225 pounds and I have been kicked out of plus size forums for saying I am trying to lose weight(I'm down 5 pounds thus far). One of them forbids discussing IWL(intentional weight loss)
@@aaronhamos5925 That is sad. Good for you, though.
I feel like body positivy started with not shaming someone just for their weight so that they feel motivated, and worthy enough to lose the weight and get healthier. Ya ur bodies aren’t meant to carry to much weight
But some people don’t care so just leave them alone
Please have John back on again to keep the conversation going. This is really important. He is right this is a societal issue and needs to be treated as such. John channel has changed my life. He has inspired and motivated me to healithify my life.
I'm a fan of obese to beast. Haven't seen his videos in a while. He's looking better than ever. More power to you.
Thank you Dr Phil for standing up for common sense!!
Well…except that one thing about that group of people we aren’t allowed to talk about…
It’s about time
@@efrainmassanet1833 The alphabet people or just the T's?
Psychology serves every person, and is full of nuances- not just common sense. Dr. Phil, who by the way is not a doctor, fails to realize these nuances within psychology every time. The world is not black and white and Dr. Phil’s elementary way of viewing it that way Is not edgy or in defense of common sense, he simply wants to argue and exploit people for views. His show is extremely exploitative in nature and lacks integrity and does not make any progress. Productive conversations can be held without exploiting people with a different perspective. These are championing to prove that obesity is harmful to health are missing the point. They know the health risks. They know how they are viewed within society. He got a bunch of experts together to scare a fat women into hating herself? How unproductive. How about we have discussions on how an overweight person can productively lose the weight rather than just hear how much they should hate themselves. So stay inside your box of ignorance Renee Santiago.
As a person who has been morbidly obese for multiple decades I am an expert on the subject.... This whole body positivity movement does not speak for most of us. The vast majority of fat people are not trying to push obesity onto other people, we don't care if you find us attractive or not, we're not upset at "diet culture", we do not attack people who choose to lose weight. We would just like to be allowed to live our lives without people making rude comments about our bodies that we didn't ask for. Just leave us alone.
Agreed and great comment.
I completely agree. I also want to say that we all have our journey in this one and only life and nobody should waste precious time hating ourself or others. Live and let live.
one’s self
you constantly put a burden on healthcare, so no we will not leave you alone.
@@taniaferrante4889 I haven't been to a doctor in over a decade? So ......?
John is such a genuine kind person! really appreciate him
Body positivity celebrates the beauty and diversity of our bodies regardless of its shape, texture, and form. But in the end of the day, we should not normalize unhealthy body weight since we are the ones going who are going to suffer from it in the future.
But scientists/doctors can be dead wrong.
Lobotomies were considered the "miracle cure" for homosexuality (at the time, psychiatrists considered this to be an unhealthy condition), sexual promiscuity (same diagnosis as homosexuality), odd behavior was treated with lobotomies.
(Rose Kennedy, who would now be diagnosed as having bipolar,, was given a lobotomy with her father's signed permission. She never spoke again, had to have help to walk, lived the rest of her life--from her 20s to 80s--in an institution.
And the scientists who developed lobotomies won the Nobel Prize. Husbands could have their wives committed to mental institutions for cheating on them (convince the psychiatrist that the wife was "out of control") and a lobotomy would be the "cure."
So many lives destroyed by this health care fad.
Please do not just blindly follow the latest healthcare fad.
I agree, anyone who is 300 pounds or more needs help.
Just as anyone under 110 pounds needs help.
But fat shaming doesn't work.
And people who are obsessed about their weight are never going to be happy whether they are thin or fat.
I've known mothers who so controlled their daughter's food intake that the girls ended up in hospitals with severe anemia, anorexia and died from that condition.
As I said before, my grandmother & her sister were both over 200 pounds from age 20-85. Both were born when women's life spans were around 59-60. They far outlived that predicition and were active, happy, popular women. Both far outlived their slim husbands.
My thin grandmother died at age 72.
Weight is not the end-all, be-all prediction of longevity.
I put on 50 pounds due to medications. But my BP & blood tests are all always pefect. I am not going to let a stream of random people make me feel bad just because I don't look like what the current fad in science says we have to look like.
EXACTLY!
I am following John"s youtube channel, he is trying always to be kind and compassionate. Was great that he was kind to the couple.
Yes some people gain weight for a variety of reasons, but usually, very rarely does it not cause other health problems.
As a former obese person, I lost over 100lbs, calling fat people names and questioning everything they put in their mouth doesn't help them loose weight. It made me eat more because I felt it was impossible. The only time I was able to loose and keep it off was when I was ready to do it for myself. Best decision ever.
Seeing myself in a gentler light also helped me understand I needed to lose enough weight to become healthier. I lost 100+ lbs in a year and a half, though the last few months I’ve struggled because of my health landing me in the hospital long enough to not be able to work out, and I started struggling with food again. I hate seeing so many in FA community be so….mean? to people like me, and like John. Some kind of body positivity and autonomy, right? 🙄
I’m not where I’d like to be anymore but I know what works for me and I’m currently getting back on the wagon again. And what makes me optimistic is I’ve only gained back ~20 lbs, which isn’t nearly as disastrous as I was expecting. Remembering how *great* I felt when I didn’t weigh almost 300 lbs even, is a major motivator for me as well!
All I know is when I'm overweight I don't like the fit of my clothes, i have difficulty breathing even sitting down, i get tired easily, feel lethargic. For me it's all body negatives being fat so I lost weight and everything is better now.
I was overweight I took up running and started eating healthy it's all what you put in your mouth !!!!!!
It's simple! Glad you figured it out, so much excuses from obese people.
It's crazy the way she tries to dodge reality
Have her come back on the show in 10 years. It’s sad to even think there’s a high chance she won’t be or in a completely different health status. It’s crazy the amount of denial someone would do to themselves.
She'll be in a wheelchair in 10 years with her attitude.
@@fxrsniper1 Complaining the person pushing her isn't going fast enough.
I think it's symptomatic of the Eating Disorder she obviously has. If Eugenia Cooney were in that seat talking to Phil, we would all, sadly, see the depths of her Eating Disorder because she is so terribly, dangerously thin.
In the context of obesity, it's an ED too, surely? And that seems from disordered thinking (caused by something negative).
she can try to talk her way through it, but nobody that is overweight, wants to be overweight. i’ve struggled with weight for 60 years. i will never give up completely like she has. it is not healthy to be obese. there are health issues. she may not be old enough to realize that yet, but they will come.
You can tell by how she was nodding with John that she wishes she could figure out how to lose the weight like he did.
I dont believe her argument was saying 'she wants to be overweight' it was about being nice to yourself whatever step of your body journey youre up to.
@@actuallyitsashleigh not only was she pretending like she liked her body she was also trying to say that it’s healthy
I feel as though the goal should always be to lose weight as long as it’s done in a healthy way. That’s not to say hate yourself if you’re fat, just that the goal is to become as healthy as possible which usually involves you losing weight if you’re obese.
She's just avoiding taking accountability for her poor self-control and lifestyle habits. It's okay to be positive with yourself, but don't overlook the facts and consequences of your decisions, i.e. health problems.
Health is nothing but a cash sucker for the doctor’s that do the cash sucking because fat or thin either way ur dead pick one it’s ur choice and no one else’s
They are lying to themselves to have a sense of acceptance with themselves and the word. I used to be 300 lbs and went down to 220. THAT is body positivity, not hiding behind lies and not willing to face reality.
Dr. Phil….please. Keep having episodes like this❤
The subject is like taboo now. I think we should think of fat as, overweight, obese and morbidly obese depending on your BMI. Fat really creeps up on you if you don't think of yourself as fat, and then you see yourself as really fat that it makes it too hard to know how to get rid of it.
These days it seems all subjects are taboo!!!!!
The point of the body positivity movement IS to love and accept your body at any size!
And it IS about accepting that you need to change and do hard things and love yourself back to health!
Agree❤
Happy to see that she is happy but being healthy is different...
Here after watching obesetobeast video 👀
Finally. I'm not alone here lol same
@@jadynjones8293 I think he was right when he said in his video that the producers probably thought he represented something else other than what he actually does. On the show they made him out to seem that he was pro weight loss and less body positivity, and thought he would be more on Dr. Phil’s side.
John @obesetobeast bringing truth to the table!
Yes, it's gone too far. Way too far. Staying fit and healthy by eating right and exercising is difficult. I personally struggle with it every year, every month, every week. But just giving up and deluding yourself into thinking that doing so is healthier, that's insanity.
I’m not fat but watching this has definitely made me rethink my health choices. There have been times when I was so much more healthy than I am now and I have always been about the the same size… you know how I can tell the difference? How I feel! So I will be getting back in the gym! And I will start eating healthy!
Good luck, Tiffani! :)
You only need to reference one word here, and it's FACTS! Proven, documented, reality.
Acceptance is awesome, but not if it could lead to sickness, disease, or early death. That's going too far.
There are skinny people that are unhealthy too. Make sure to see your Dr. and don't judge the outside. The inside, your health, and happiness is all you need.
This is a comically absurd case of people trying to force reality to accommodate their feelings. There are so many conditions that we all find ourselves with that are unpleasant, unhealthy, unattractive to others, etc. None of these conditions are cured by pretending that they aren't problems and trying to pressure others to play along. That is making a virtue of being delusional.
well said.
No one is saying that or claiming that. 🤦♀️
Please educate yourself about mental health and basic respect.
@@angele4890 Saying being obese is healthy is not a case of basic respect, it is a scientific/medical lie, and should not be tolerated
@@frenchbloo If you maintain a closed mind due to Societal norms know one will be able to accept an open mind. It's disrespectful because people think they know things but are ignorant due to the complexes of the body and how we function with nutrition and body masses.
If you think I don't do my own research and simply sheep my way through life like a common person your very wrong about me. We do not give enough attention to the truth to act like we understand enough about it and what is truly healthy.
A lot of people think thin is healthy but they are wrong. The perception is based off societal idea not true exploration in numbers.
It's ignorant to simply believe that the capability of a body is incapable of being healthy based simply on size.
Your being very small minded and yes it's disrespectful because your typical Idea of a person who is overweight is different for everyone and also not simply determined by what others might assume causes the issues in line with weight. If you speak health then yes a person can be healthy and obese there is an obvious limit just the same as for thinner folks.
Please educate yourself.
@@angele4890 Nobody is talking about being thin here, but about being fit. Nobody that fights against the promotion of obesity is actually saying that being underweight and excessively thin is healthy. Obesity is one of the lead causes of death in the West, it is an irrefutable fact, and if you think that obesity is healthy well good luck because you're going against the entire medical field. I mean, if people DYING of obesity isn't evidence enough for you of its dangers, then I am not the close minded one. Being open-minded doesn't mean always adhering to fringe and unsupported claims by people like Lexi who is just some dumb and aggressive influencer and has no biological knowledge. I would be open to accepting that being obese is just as healthy as other lifestyles if evidence showed itself, but unfortunately it hasn't. What has is HUNDREDS of studies pointing to it's dangers, people in hospitals dying at young ages because of complications caused by obesity, and MY OWN STRUGGLE WITH OBESITY that I thankfully managed to get back fro,, where I can tell you that no, being overweight is not good for you, it led to complications for me and it will for others too. Stop promoting dangerous ideas, idiot
I lost 70lbs after having my daughter and was asked if I done drugs which I never have but i felt disrespected and it stopped me in my tracks and all I could think was wow
We just lost one of our favorite comedians to obesity, and the messed up part is he used to joke about death from being overweight. RIP Teddy Ray
Lexi is beautiful but out to lunch to dispute the science. She may be healthy "right now" but if she continues at this weight she is at a higher risk for all the health issues Dr. Phil listed.
Has anybody ever seen an "obese 90-year-old?"
She is also incredibly rude and condescending. She has a terrible attitude and her insecurity just drips off of her
"So many people seem to feel entitled to a fat person's personal business."
She says this in response to people who are critical of the content she publishes online for everyone to see. You have to be pretty far down the narcissism rabbit hole to think that people who respond to what you've made available for public consumption are invading your privacy. The internet is not your private, personal space. It's a public communications network. Everyone is in fact entitled to respond to content that you have made available to them.
She is so far down tht hole.. she gotta b hitting Australia or china by now lol
👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼AGREED!
Well said 👏
Well actually you technically could make it private and if she doesn't post anything claiming to want advice from hate filled people, those people might need more help then her. Lol
@@angele4890 you could make it private but it isn't....... the fat hippo is the hateful one trying to get people to believe that being fat is healthy, just because she can't take criticism and is lazy to lose weight..... it will never be accepted as healthy or beautiful, give up.
If you want to be fat you can be fat. Just understand that it comes with negative implications and there will be people who respond negatively because it doesn't look good and more importantly it's unhealthy. You may be feeling fine now and the doctor may have given you a clean bill of health, but check back when you're in your 40's, 50, or 60's. You may not even make it. Not a whole lot of obese elderly folks walking around. I saw a clip where the lady in blue was like "I don't have any of those health conditions". She sounds so idiotic. You may not have them now, but if you don't lose weight those health issues are on the way.
accepting my body=being in denial and not wanting to change
Happy to see Obesetobeast! Great segment!
Bullying is never ok. That doesn't mean we should lie about weight. I believe in love at all sizes but not health at all sizes.
This has to be the calmest nicest interview I’ve ever seen on this show lmao
Bro I wasn’t even two minutes in and I was like “damn maybe I should go do a little exercise so I don’t end up like her” and I did some dancing for like 20 min before coming back to the video I feel so much better😭😭
Love John!! Been following him forever!! Such an inspiration
As a former anorectic, i think people should mind their own business. A crack addict is not going to put down the pipe just because people shame them/tell them to stop. Same goes for any addiction. I got help because i decided enough is enough, and then some idiot told me i had gained weight, which made me relapse again. Words scar the soul!
My daughter is a severe anorexic. I'm in the process right now of trying to get her therapy through my insurance company. Do you have any advice on how I can talk to her or better help her? I know you don't know her so you don't know the full situation. But when you were sick was there anything that someone could have said to you that would have helped? Or anything that made it worse?
@@Kelly-nt2rq I think there may be some Groups on Facebook where you can talk to more people if you don't find answers here. Maybe I'm stating the obvious. I'm sorry your daughter is struggling and I'm especially sad because I know that your heart must break not knowing how to help her. I wish you nothing but strength and a healthy outcome for all.
@@Kelly-nt2rq Generally speaking, people like this close off if people attack them or try to change their opinion. A gentle, systematic approach helps, but no one can get helped if they don't want it. Saying the most common things that people would say is probably not a good idea. Try to understand her perspective and make sure she understands her problem. For example, a lot of fat people relate food to happiness and they think that if they don't constantly eat, they will be unhappy. They should understand that this is not true and if they care about their health, it's worth working on solving that problem. The big reasons why people should do something are the real motivators. Sometimes people obsess over something specific and lose more important things because of it, so they need to understand what they're losing and if it's worth it for them.
@S.F. I'm sorry... Did you just say we should mind out own business and NOT try to help crack addicts to stop?
If my brother becomes addicted to crack... Imma call him a crackhead and say he needs to get help.
My cousin died in his sleep if pulmonary problems at 30 years old. He was 450 pounds. He should have been losing weight, he should have been told to lose weight immediately or he will die. Not told that it's fine, hahaha that's just big Tone. He's a big boy haha.
F that. I lost a cousin because people told him it was fine to be fat.
Doing what he has accomplished is one of the most difficult admirable and impressive things a human can do..
Really? One of the most difficult and admirable?
Your bar is very low.
Female delusion...
@@bGzzzzz In your opinion! I’m surprised you can’t admit that working hard to change your body is a difficult thing to do
@@LakerTriangle Im delusional and you’re a misogynist 🤓
@@Nikkitasnook how is calling out your mentality misogynist? Seems I probably said a word you heard before so you put me in the same boat. I'm sure my wife and kids have a different opinion and that's what matters to me. You should try getting a thicker skin.
Her face is full of injections and yet she’s talking about someone’s heath and life decision
Do the injections affect her health? And how do you know she has injections? I think you're just fat and can't take criticism.
Body positivity is good.
Obesity is not.
However Fat acceptance community paints themselves as healthy and when we criticize it, they’re lambasted as “fatphobic”.