President Dick Richardson, VP Bird, Dr. Curling & Tom Murray - The Story of Fallout 2 Part 36
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I can feel my brain cells dying during your talk with the vice president.
Random Person that could be an apt description of the Bush Sr. White House whenever Dan Quayle showed up for a meeting.
i frequently play World of Tanks so i am hardened against stupidity but this talk was almost as hard ^^
I want a potatoe
I can hear Sgt.Dornan yelling across the hallway: "Oh, great. They brought me a MO-RON!"
I agree then to learn it's all real from a real guy
I should mention that despite not being one of my favorite characters, Richardson does have a funny line when you try to kill him:
“Guards, get in here and kill this idiot! No, not the veep!”
lazymansload one of these days Dick is gonna get rid of the VP, but he would love to be the one to do it himself.
I never cared much for Richardson. I felt like he’s only there to explain the Enclave’s master plan and then die. Heck, you don’t even have to pass any kind of check to get him to not call the guards when you leave his office.
Also, a bit of trivia. During the development of Fallout 3 Bethesda wanted the Enclave’s president to be Richardson’s consciousness uploaded to a computer. This would have been hinted at through the game, because Brotherhood members would remark how Richardson is supposed to be dead. This plan had to be scrapped during the middle of development when Richardson’s actor was arrested, prompting the team at Bethesda to create President Eden instead.
Edit: I should clarify that I find Richardson interesting at times, but he was not well thought out as a character.
Almost sounds like what they did with MODUS on 76.
Don’t see why they could have gotten a different actor to do an impression, after all it’s supposed to be an ai replicating his voice
Cnv1ct I think it was the nature of the crime he was arrested for; bringing his character back so soon could’ve been seen as poor taste
@@lazymansload520 what was the crime?
Connor notyerbidness Posession Of child pornography
The red lights seem to be Military bases.
Fort Lenorwood Missouri, Fort Campbell KY, Fort Brag SC, etc..
And national capitals
ProtoMario hopefully fort Polk was destroyed.
@@baker90338 why fort polk?
Kaelan Ross ‘tis a place of misery and suffering, that came about purely to punish army servicemen due to it’s existence in Louisiana (see zack of the Zack and Mike couriers group)
ProtoMario but proto
Talks with the VP
Benny: “What in the god damn?”
*"Guilty of mutation..."*
- This from the man with one of the most inbred faces I've ever seen.
I remember my dad laughing loud enough to fill the whole house while chatting with the VP.
If he were still around I'm sure he wouldn't be shocked to see me dumping hundreds of hours into Fallout 3, NV and 4.
Watch Robert kiyosaki videos, trust me
Only hundreds huh
@@cyborgninja5489 Lol, I'd only want him to know about the hundreds, let Dad's memory think I have some social life xD
Rip
The quote, "Enough talk. Time for you to face that great electoral college in the sky." made me laugh hard af.
"Enough talk, it's time for you to face the Great Electoral College in the Sky!" I absolutely adore that line.
My new pet peeve: “FEV virus”. It’s up there with PIN number, ATM machine, and hot water heater.
Chili con Queso with cheese.
Jason Warren SVD sniperskya?
The Loch Ness lake.
Sahara desert
RIP in peace is also up there :)
We've made it guys. I love this coverage of the old Fallout games.
Same
Play it
i feeel dr curling was too easy to convince after all the work and research he did for enclave
It’s a speech check. You can fail it. Though you can just keep trying to convince him until you succeed.
I think so too, it’s a little disappointing, it should probably have been more like the master in fallout 1, in my ideal game you’d need to find proof that the FEV wouldn’t actually die off, or that enclave would be doomed to mutate if they colonised the mainland, and prove it to Curling along with a speech and science check.
Vice-President Bird is a good example of how topical humor can really date your work
It's a challenge because so much of humor references the place and time it comes from.
True. If it had been made nowadays, the incoherent insane rambler would be president *ba dum tish*
But seriously, to be fair, it's not like there a lot of other pop culture references that are already dating the game quite a bit. Besides the bit of dialogue still stands as a bit of random absurdity even if you don't know the real life inspiration
Like Neighbors 2 and Playing with Fire?
@@s.m.2523 I still think that those pop-culture references are a slight against the game's writing for me. I like Fallout and New Vegas a lot better because they were a bit more serious and comedy rarely came from outside references except in the case of some Easter eggs / Wild Wasteland stuff.
Just pretend Vice President Bird is acutally Trump.
"We are going to Mars and it's gonnna be great!"
The funniest thing about Quayle, he's not wrong a lot of the time. He just can't talk.
Is he out there doing commentary or writing books or something? I had no idea.
I can kinda see what you mean. At first I thought he might have been on some wild cocktail of drugs, but after listening to his speech patterns, he just sounds really nervous. Like he realizes how dumb he sounds, but he can't stop stumbling over his tongue. When I first started public speaking, I had the same problem, and honestly, I'm not really sure how I got over it. I think I might be able to blame Bruce Campbell for giving me the gift of gab. . .
"He's not wrong"? I mean, I guess, but he's not saying anything of great intellect; just obvious things like "the Nazis were bad" and "we have to move forward".
The Mars thing is pretty wacky though. Like, just because there's water on a planet doesn't mean we can breathe on it.
@@mastermarkus5307
He's a politician. I can't remember the last time any politician said anything profound on purpose.
@@isaacschmitt4803
AOC's got some good stuff. I wouldn't exactly call anything Quayle said (at least in those clips, I don't know much else of what he said) "profound".
You know it must be hard having a name like “Dick Dickson”
i wanna see a remake of these older game in new vegas/fo3/fo4 style
That Jojo Lesbian itll never happen bethesdas stupid
there is a buggy fallout 1 mod for fnv
@@taurus-ug3fp ya well Microsoft own Bethesda and the rights to fallout, which mean we might actually get one
Just play the originals. You'll be glad that you did. And you'll understand why remaking them in the FPS style of the Bethesda games would be utterly impossible.
true
Wow...
The Master was more reasonable than the President!
And i noticed the theme of Mutation and Purity between the villains of the two games!
3:30 according to that map, if those red dots are enclave bases, they have bases in argentina (chubut), venezuela (funny cuz chubut is a state in argentina who hasthe most petrolleum reserves in the country, and venezuela is well know to have a lot of it aswell), they have another base in brazil and (peru maybe?)
they have a base in brazil...? I thought brazil would only be transformed into a raider country
Sounds plausible that they have mapped out all the currently known major oil pockets except most dots in Europe are national capitals.
By that logic, maybe the Miami wasteland mod shouldn’t be just a mod. 😏 Their virtual absence in Fallout 4 would also make sense since they have no base there. More appropriately, fall into mesh with the continuity, given many of Bethesda’s lore inconsistencies. We do see a red dot in a spot where Chicago would be, and it is mentioned the enclave has a base there in New Vegas. And speaking of New Vegas, the red dot to the right of California would be consistent with the location of the Enclave remnant base. Since we see an Enclave base in 76, it seems that would hold true to even bases that are no longer occupied. So I think your theory would hold up pretty well.
@@alexandrerotundodasilva7810 why? 🤔
@@P0k3D0nd3M4cG well, as i saw in the comments of a video of what happend to the south america, someone responded a comment that brazil would all be raiders and fiends (due to most drug dealers and bandits)
So his name is basically Dick Dickson. Yes im immature!
You would love Richard dangles
A Richard Nixon reference?
Some guy that also seems possible
@@JarrekAsF Well, for some reason, "Dick" is short of "Richard".
@@someguy9293 Richard -> Rick -> Dick
Thanks for all the fallout 1 and 2 videos! I just wanted to drop that you actually CAN kill the president without using violence. You can use super stimpacks on him, if you use enough the eventual hp drain on them wearing off will kill him without triggering any alerts.
8, then wait 10 minutes with your pipboy.
7 for me
4:32 I know some of those lines that person were saying, the lines like "Where did my two gallons of Strawberry Ice Cream go" or "The Caine is mine! Mine!" Came from the 1954 film The Caine Mutiny where the crew of the USS Caine had to go against their mentally unstable captain during WW2
Nice reference catch!
@@KK-qm1mr Thanks, I watched the Caine Mutiny when I was visiting my Grandma's
The "Bomb" you find is likely an apparatus. We use "Bomb Calorimeters" to determine reaction energies in chemistry. It's basically a thermally/atmospherically isolated tank.
Fallout 2: the audiobook. And a great one!
The fact that this guy is called Dick Dickson and players still haven't noticed that the developers didn't like him astounds me.
Heh, Richard Dickson
Dick Richardson
Ben Dover , Barry Gay.
Dr.Long Wang
Double Dickie
The Enclave could have done so much good with their technology and logistics
I like the mod old world blues for hearts of iron 4, you can do the reform path as the enclave and become a force for good
It’s just like in real life.
I remember Dan Quayle's potato gaffe, but didn't realize he was about as prolific as Joe Biden.
Just remember he's just as smart as white kids
He was quite possibly worse, and a lot younger.
@Wilkin's Coffee Look up the Hunter tapes. Joe isn't the rapist. His son is.
@Wilkin's Coffee Still, his son's the one that did it.
@Wilkin's Coffee No need for the attitude, dude... Geez.
Jeffrey Duncan Jones (born September 28, 1946) is an American actor. He has appeared in many films and television shows, but may be best known for his roles as Charles Deetz in Beetlejuice, as Emperor Joseph II in Milos Forman's Academy Award-winning Amadeus, as the infamous dean of students, Edward R. Rooney, in the 1986 John Hughes film Ferris Bueller’s Day Off, and as Dr. Walter Jennings in Howard the Duck.
Jones voiced President Dick Richardson in Fallout 2.
He also appeared in Stay Tuned, but no one cares about that movie.
@@jbiehlable Love that movie.
@@thatguybehindtheglass Same.
That VP should listen to the most popular president in our nation's history, who once said, "Trueinterntionaldepresure"
I believe the red dots are enclave bases, because of the enclave base in West Virginia and in DC.
So wait these vault experiments were just a prank (bro) the whole time by VaultTec. Damn, I guess no one noticed the cameras.
I wish the Enclave were a good faction with pure intentions.
That's impossible sadly.
Shaun Steele but they are the Good guys
The Remnants
Well. There intentions are definitivley pure. Just not in a good way.
Astra militarum Lord general militant I don’t think genocide makes you the good guys lol
the Enclave actions and motive sounds much like that of the Nazis, talk about not learning from the past
And the alt-right, and every religion in the history of mankind...
Bad apples spoil the bunch, SonsOfLorgar.
SonsOfLorgar More like every single leftist regime in history.
Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot, Moa.
SonsOfLorgar ironic to hear this from the son of “checkmate atheists, I got magic” lorgar.
You are so right
VP- "I'm not a apart of the problem im a Republican" Chosen one- "like i said part of the problem'
Imagine if this game game came out today. Haha
Chris Smith as a Republican, I found it hilarious. Petty politics is the problem. We can all agree on that, I think.
@@No_nameOG one of them, i thing the biggest problem we have is seeing the other party as enemy. We all love America.
Chris Smith speak for yourself America sucks for anyone who isn’t white
@@verscarii3238 you are both wrong stop commenting on my post if ya gonna whine.
Personally both parties are part of the problem today I’m a mix of values. I feel like we keep seeing less and less of them.
I support gun freedom but I feel like specific guns shouldn’t be allowed in highly populated areas (specifically shotguns with buck) but pistols would be fine I’m not for taking guns away but I’ll admit there’s a limit.
The republicans would be fine if THEY COULD GET OVER THAT FUCKING BIBLE. I’m Christian but I’m more of an atheist because yeah it’s fine I get it freedom of religion. But it’s so jarring seeing how much of our religion is picked and chosen without regard for context.
Maybe the "bomb" at 27:30 is a bomb calorimeter, considering the fact it's in a lab and has pipes hooked up to it.
24:26 that sinister stare
After I'm done completing the part you literally just finished in fallout 2, you come and upload another video 7 minutes after. NOW I GOTTA CONTINUE, OH THE HORROR!! THINK OF THE SLEEP I'LL MISS!! (worth it if I'm gonna be honest)
I think the bomb you find is a reference to Fallout 1. The one in the Cathedral, or they just hinted you what course of action should you take in case you haven't figured it out already.
Zonda Zerda it could’ve been a cut option.
Eden was more charismatic.
Tactical Droid Lmao you’er actually right eden a super computer ended up being a more charismatic president then Dickinson.
@@empireoftexas The power of Malcolm McDowell
Goddamn right, it's hard to top Malcolm McDowell.
i keep thinking that sergeant dornan is yelling "YOU MORON" throught the base intercom as every Enclave member is spilling out the masterplan details..... xD
Whoa, who ordered the *exposition* ? These Enclave higher-ups sure like to share their master plans!
Fascists, especially those sure of themselves, very much adore gloating about their warped ideology.
@@paperbackwriter1111 the dnc taught us this
This explains the purpose of Vault Tech.
JUST in time for a long car ride, thanks Ox!
Hey how are you n😌🙂
Playback Recordings good thanks bro how r u
@@WASTEDgameplay im doing great! Where you from
@@SanjanaRanasingha oh hey there big guy, I'm doing well
@@CLIFFORD392 you also play fallout?
Its wild how hooked I am to fo2 lore
yeah fallout 2 almost feels like vietnam right?
Too bad it's almost over.
@@samgaither793 Well, you can always play it.
When you don't want to be reminded of Funniest People and then you had to remind us of it.
Does the VP sound like the Mad Hatter at times and true politician at others
Never mind comment was before Quallism
@@conanshuman3995 the really scary part is the similiarities of both Enclave POTUS, VP and the current POTUS...
What the difference? 😂😂
@@SonsOfLorgar
ORANGE MAN BAD!
Give me likes!
I want to die after listening to the VP
Legend says, after you exhaust all dialogue options with the Vice-President, you lose 7 INT irl.
Feels like this is one of the weaker parts of the game. Everything is one directional and every villain is a dum dum.
I agree. It especially feels weird to go back to this after Fallout New Vegas where the Enclave is suggested to have been... competent. This, like some other parts in Fallout 2 is slightly too comedic and referential for me, so while I praise FO2 for it's wider variety of missions, I think the original Fallout has a lot better writing.
We have a cartoon super villain as a president now.
I don't understand. Why? The enclave has it's doubts about the whole plan, they're not a 100% true believers like most cliche factions are, the scientist there was open minded, the guy didn't close his fucking ideas and proceed to act the villain, he got convinced. Now how many times does that ever happen in other games? As far as i personally seen, never, only in Fallout games. There's nothing dumb here as far as i seen.
Well the enclave did nothing wrong. They pretty much just tell you what it is they are doing very straightforward. I don't know what's the problem since our protagonist is just doing the "but why?" "why?" "why?"
@@themachoechidnaugandarandy7583 "the enclave did nothing wrong"
they literally kidnap innocent people and torture them so they can perform a mass genocide.
thats pretty wrong my guy
That Quayle guy must have been another mind control experiment gone array. 😄 Reminds me of another certain "presidential" person. Poor guy doesn't seem like he wants to be there.
the enclave was so weirdly written in fallout 2, just why. The social experiment shit was so weird. Just why.
Like how would you have this idea: "HMM WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF WE USED DEADLY GAS"
And how he constantly has to justify genociding lol
Fallout 2 isn't a very serious game to be honest it rarely takes itself seriously, and it doesn't make it any better when The Enclave is if every single conspiracy theory was true
I think the Enclave are meant to parallel the Master. While the Master wants to unite and enslave, the Enclave wants to divide and conquer. The pre war culture was that of complete and total dehumanization of the "other team". I mean, McCarthyism was a terrifying thing during the IRL cold war, and the red scare took our nation to places we haven't entirely recovered from. The Enclave is the natural extension of that. The idea of taking the red scare and stretching it out for so much longer, to the point it got worse and worse and worse. Chinese American internment camps, the violent and public murder of a protester shown on TV during the first fallouts intro. The scary part is how occasionally the prewar government was right, with Chinese subs being shockingly close to the USA, the release of the new plague, and the various spies we find. It becomes less and less of a stretch to think these guys were responsible for Robo-Brains, Vault Tech, and even the war itself. The Enclave is, ironically, the natural evolution of the culture at the time, mixed with a healthy dose of classism.
It’s almost like the Enclave are literally written as a critique against American imperialism. They’re meant to represent the worst aspects of American government. The Enclave literally infiltrated the larger parts of government and unanimously impeached the former president for Jay walking. Then they brought themselves to the pacific in their oil rig and created the Vaults as a way to create social experiments and have test subjects for their dealings and believe that nobody other than themselves are human or American.
They are repeating the mistakes of past enemies in the form of genocide and have become the oppressors instead of fighting against them, and what comes from oppression? Rebellion in the form of the Chosen One and the NCR creating a government that was more true to the original American values.
It’s a story about history repeating itself time and time again. Hence “war, war never changes”
Have really enjoyed this, I've been listening to it at work now I can start my own playthrough and know how to cheese some things. But have fun still.
I've been waiting for this video to come out for dayssssss.
Thanks Oxhorn!!
Not sure how you feel about bad puns, but if you make an apron that says
"I hate to do this to you
but I'm all out of thyme"
I can guarantee that I will buy it.
Am I the only one finding it amusing how.. Erm.. The actual world even surpassed the comedic stupidity depictured in an old video game?
I really enjoy these Oxhorn videos in between advertisements.
Hey Ox I love your channel and tbh you’re the one that got me into the Fallout series to start with so thanks for the content
I love your classic Fallout vid's. I listen to them like audio books. You have a great Radio Voice dude!
How many videos does this guy make? He's an all-powerful god! Bow down to mighty oxhorn.
interesting fact: Michael Caine got his surname from the Caine Mutiny as his stage name. He needed one urgently, looked out the phonebooth where he was speaking to a talent agent or director, and saw a cinema across the road. He said had it not been Caine, he could have gone with Michael 101 Dalmations.
The vice president is DEFINITELY a synth.
War... War Never Changes!
Neither does The Ink Spots
*Sing Maybe by The Ink Spots*
Thanks Ox 🙂 and you know how i would resolve the problem with The Enclave 😁
My favourite gaming episode! Favorite series !
Imagine spelling potato right and the Vice President saying it has an E
You'd think money could afford smarter puppets, but apparently not.
Don't you shit on the jackalope. I loved that skit.
40:40
“Atomic Energy Commission”
Oxhorn: “Atom Energy Consortium”
Uh, sure.
The lights indicate the locations of Enclave bases.
If it was the sole survivor all of them would already be dead
4:02 neither was Salt Lake City
If Vice President Dan Bird is modeled off of Quayle.
Does that President Richardson is modeled off of H.W.
I recognized William Blake immediately. Ox you should do a couple poetry readings
love your vids ox, keep it up!
Man!!! I've been waiting for this all day and night
Christ, this is like Metal Gear parody dialogue times 10: "something something WORD" "WORD? What do you mean?!"
You knew? FEV virus was one our most secret black projects!
"Republicans understand the importance of bondage-"
Me: "Please say that sentence ends there!"
"-between a mother and child."
Me: "Aaand it got kinkier..."
@Reck Fredreck The full sentence can be interpreted as talking about Republicans liking bondage (the fetish) when between an incestuous context. I thought it was going to stop at bondage but it continued.
Up next: Frank Horrigan
These episodes are as exciting as the "Tales of West Virginia hills"
This was such a great video and part of the game. It's really interesting
God bless the Enclave, and God bless America!
Using FEV to clear the floors of Enclave would kill the chosen one's companions methinks.
Not Skynet or the deathclaw though.
"Fast as fast can be they'll never catch me."
-Jack Ching Bada-Bing (AKA The Jackalope) 4:44
Oxhorn, thank you for the history lesson on real American politics of that era
38:58 are those Enclave soldiers using T-51 Power armor?
Fenrir Lokison I think they’re undergoing training. I think they also used that armor for moving heavy equipment in the supply rooms.
They still have access to it. If you show up to Navarro in T-51, they'll comment on the fact that you're wearing a "museum piece".
I'd say it's just maybe part of a divison in the enlcave because it was a pre war power armor the US used
4:03 looks like one in Canada assuming they kept the names of the Provence’s Canada is probably fine when it comes to life there
The vice president is definitely the Mad-Hatter! XD
(he was mad because they used mercury in the hat making and if anyone got all the mercury, it was him. On top of the fact that that entire series was written with hard drugs in use haha)
thank you so much for your playthrough
Oxhorn please make a frank Horgan t-shirt!
I thought u were actually gunna start sacrificing companions I was nervous for my boy skynet
Fallout tactics please!
I think those markers must be other bases. They roughly match up with the locations of Raven Rock and White Springs.
I completely forgot how painful it was listening to Quayle. Thanks for the nightmares! lol
You are the king of cliffhangers
*salutes*
11:43 - 12:43
If I might borrow a line from "Everybody Loves Raymond":
"It's like your mouth is falling down the stairs..."
Oxhorn I think those red dots are Enclave Bases because you said there was a dot near D.C. which would be Raven Rock, one in west Virginia which would be the base in west Virginia, the one near southern California could be the bunker in the Mojave, the other one in California could be Navarro and the reason we don't see one in the north west is because the Enclave isn't in Fallout 4
I was thinking that also. If anything I think the world globe in the atom shop in fallout 76 shows all of the places that the bombs dropped.
FYI British spelling of potato has an e at the end. That's how we spelt it too given that we were a former British colony. Americans write "color , we spell it as colour🤷🏾♂️. It's seems many people aren't aware of this, this is why cortana ask you what English you use when you buy a pc and boot it up for the first time.
Great work as always Oxhorn! Nostalgia is coarsing through me right now >.
Thanks oxhorn! :)
Oxhorn, at 4:00, you said there doesn't seem to be the marker for a nuclear missile strike where Boston should be. Maybe it was the Chinese submarine, we encounter in Fallout 4 that was a secret Chinese operation, that sent the nuclear missile we see in the introduction to FO 4.
Also, I admit this is splitting hairs, but I don't think the city of Boston itself was struck. Rather, some towns to the south were, creating the Glowing Sea.
@@KK-qm1mr Right, right. Good point, in addition. Gosh, you just gotta love the lore. So much thought went into all of it, even from the very beginning, Fallout 1. That takes some brains. Too bad Bethesda hasn't been successful in their attempts lately. You know, I think I'm certain when I say that they could indeed redeem themselves someday by somethings or the other.
@@A-A-Ron95 I feel that a change in leadership at Zenimax might go a long way towards improving things. Not optimistic about that happening (or being successful if it did happen), but you never know.
@@KK-qm1mr let's hope so. My fellow brother in-game.
@@A-A-Ron95 Sister, actually. Not that it matters in this case.
The Enclave always reminded me of the Imperium from Warhammer.
Without the resources and leadership.
Based