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Two years ago in California, a kid was suspended from school and charged with felony assault for "holding a pencil in a threatening manner." Meanwhile, this school can't even be bothered to tell the campus police officer about an _actual_ threat?! So many more people should be held accountable for this.
Red states don’t care actually no states care
Don’t think for one second life’s wouldn’t have been lost if this kid would have been sent home or campus police notified. He would have done this another day. Individuals who lack the value of life, will kill someone at some point.
@@qjtvaddict if he was in a blue state say CA. hed have been released without bail already.
All of us…
@@jeffjackson6358 If campus police were notified and they checked his backpack, they would have found the gun. He would have been arrested, charged, sent to juvie, and likely made to do counseling.
I love people who act like letting people commit crimes is better than stopping them.
The school said that Ethan appeared "calm" so they sent him back to class. Of course, he appeared calm. He was armed and ready to go.
How that turned out
That's what I thought . He literally came to school with the gun on him. Unfortunately, it's sad that not only did the killer get caught looking at amo then the art work he did. Their still not talking these seriously. Idgaf how "how calm" he was or the excuses he used they need to take action immediately. Obviously they called the parents but we know how that turned out. The schools should've called law enforcement to let them be aware of. I think immediate extreme actions need to be taken place from the very beginning. My thoughts and prayers are with these families.
Sometimes quiet is violent
Pretty sure that’s actually a warning sign when someone’s extremely calm after make threats or saying they’ll kill themselves
@@kyla8386 However they act, you don’t just do nothing when a kid threatens violence towards themselves or others. It’s actually interesting that the school was debriefed about something bad possibly happening and they still failed to act.
It breaks my heart that children can’t go to school without fearing that they aren’t going to not make it home. My heart goes out to victims and their families
Sorry, I'm having trouble understanding what you're saying. It's like a triple-negative or something ("can't go to school without fearing that they aren't going to not make it home").
@@drinkinslim really, she is trying to say how horrible it is that children are having to deal with shooters at their school and being in fear.
This is the reason why I have my kids home schooled 🤦🏼♀️…..May God watch and protect over everyone and I pray peace upon the families who had lost a loved one from these tragedies
It breaks my heart how there are families out there that are not teaching their kids to stop bullying , and picking on kids 😂tf is a difference between him and Kyle rittenhouse ! What ? BcUz he shot a couple black males in defense ? But God forbid a kid w mental issues gets bullied and picked on and gets their hands on a gun 😂 than it’s a fucking crime , don’t blame the kid, blame society for pushing the agenda .. it’s not okay to bully special needs
@@drinkinslim You understood what she was saying, you big baby. Grow up.
The moms reply to her son via text message “LOL I’m not mad at you. You’re going to have to learn to not get caught.”
Are you kidding me? Excellent they are charged!
😵💫
Sociopaths. They are all sociopaths
@@sakaiahreign3365 agreed. I’m thankful for this precedent of the parents being charged. 👏🏽
@@Ellesdownloads me too!
@@sakaiahreign3365 same
*His backpack..., his lockers..., and his person..., all should have been thoroughly searched before he was allowed to return to class..., period.*
In hindsight, if they did search him and his backpack all we would hear about is his rights the second amendment, and the school would probably be sued. After the 17 year old kid ran around the streets playing army and killed people it's no wonder it was ignored.
I agree completely. I'm not sure if the school/school officers are allowed to do that without parental permission, not sure in this situation, but it definitely should have happened.
Given what we know about these parents, it really seems like they would've refused to allow the school to search his backpack. But that's what should've happened, and if they refused, they should've immediately involved CPS or police or something.
The school was pretty much in a no-win situation. They had made the decision to send the kid home on the morning of the shooting, but his parents outright refused to take him. The guidance counselor decided that if he were sent home alone, he might harm himself. If it turned out that the kid committed suicide due to the school sending him home, everyone would criticize the school even more than they are doing now. If they searched his bags, you would hear complaints about his rights being violated. The only solution that might have worked is if the parents took him home and sent him to psychiatric counseling within 48 hours as they were required to by the school. If they did not comply, the school was going to refer him to child protective services.
Edit: Though if they would have searched his backpack and found the gun, the incident might have been temporarily averted. However, without the parents' cooperation/support, I feel that it likely would have eventually resulted in a similar tragedy.
@@Dave-sq9xz you don’t need the parent’s permission to check his backpack if he’s on school property. There were mistakes made all around here, the school should have taken this much more seriously. It’s not that hindsight is 20/20, he literally drew and wrote what he planned on doing. You don’t put him back in class after he made veiled threats like he did.
It's such a shame that some students were so concerned that they didn't come to school that day. So there were so many signs that something was really wrong. How were the students smarter than those in charge. The kid had a count down timer on his social media for goodness sake. This is just so sad.
Do you have a link showing that some children stayed home.
Sad how social media sends out their fact checkers for alot of idiotic info, but missed the social media signs altogether! Our hearts go out to their entire community!
I believe that people running the schools are the most retarded people on the planet. They're basically government employees they don't have the ability to think outside the box they just read regulations and they do what they're told and they're afraid to think on their own if that school administrator had done his job correctly nobody would be dead right now. Needs to go to jail too
I graduated from high school about two years ago and I can tell you that within gen-z culture school shootings are so joked about that when someone threatens it at school hardly any students take it seriously. Some kid wrote a bomb threat on a bathroom wall in middle school and we all laughed it off. I'm glad that some of the kids had the instinct to stay home and that their parents let them. I also heard that his teacher caught him drawing pictures of bullets with blood on them on his desk and brushed it off.
@rose petals my point is that they were too afraid of what people would think if they did something that offended them so you're making my point. Also the administrator needs to be held responsible for not doing the right thing. That person is totally deflecting and acting like he did everything correctly.
The school should take alot of the blame too. The signs were everywhere. This murdering kid was sloppy and told what his intentions were before he actually did anything.
He's so dumb, he's lucky asf that the school is as dumb as him to not figure that shitout. Teachers and Admin need to step up there game with discipline lol
@@blindninja9149 lucky shcools here in texas are far better than that. porter high school caught a kid with weed in his backpack after doing a bag search
@@jackmagnium6115so as you're molesting a kid over a sac of weed the gun toting psycho walks right under your nose. Yay for Texas. Bahahaha great comment.
@@scottgardner5918 I WHAT!? I dont do shit like that. my job is to keep other safe and educate others on facts of the situation. and keep in mind i was 16 when this happened. im 20 now. like i said its the schools job to keep students safe. this school failed that which is gonna result in a felony charge. they are required by law to keep students safe.
@@jackmagnium6115 yes exactly. You're much safer without that weed around. Bahahaha. Weed is the devil!
You shot 4 kids violently, who's last moments on this earth where probably a mixture of fear and pain, and then give yourself up because you don't want to get hurt. What a coward.
I honestly feel as soon as a child walks into a school with a gun, they should no longer be seen as kids to the police and should be shot on sight because they are a threat, a real imminent threat. Especially since that kid murdered 4, he is an imminent threat and does not deserve the luxury of living.
@@VaporValkerie Ehhh I would agree with this except for the fact that shooters don’t really care about their own lives to begin with. They don’t believe in the “luxury” of living, which is why they’re throwing it away by committing a huge, heinous crime that they’ll spend decades if not the rest of their lives in prison for. Hell, I’m pretty sure a lot of them kill themselves. I feel that apprehending them and letting the other inmates go in on them is the best option.
Anyone who turns a gun at innocent civilians is a coward to begin with. Honestly hope he gets beat up in prison. And when he comes out he sleeps with one eye open. May he never know peace ever again, and same to his parents, for failing to try to prevent this.
@@gummy5862 What do you mean by that last part? You think other convicted murderers are gonna "handle" him?
@@dontreadmyprofilepicture8817 Prison fights just happen dude. Other inmates don’t have to care what you did.
Lawyer: "They were going to turn themselves in!" Parents: Get $4000 from an ATM and hide in empty warehouse... 🙄
Yeah, tell us another one, they would have bolted it they could.
I was thinking the same thing ! Turn ourselves in my ass ! They most definitely were gonna flee the state or country ! 🤦🏽♀️
Those same lawyers at one point were not able to reach the parents when they went missing. So ....🤔
Lawyers do whatever to win this case and get that bread. Clearly you dont know how the fair trial works
Atms have a 300 dollar limit.
Just because the parents REFUSED to take their son home, does not mean the school couldn’t have REFUSED to allow him back in. To both parties, WHY?
It's their American right type of people..
I thought the same. Someone at the school dropped the ball also.
The school did not know he had a gun... But the parents did.
School loses money when children don't attend.
YES. EXACTLY. Lots of finger pointing here. School is equally culpable.
“they were going to turn themselves in”
i find it so funny how lawyers try their best to defend painfully obvious felons. if i was her i would’ve just burst out laughing bc there was no way anybody would believe that.
I would too tbh, but legally you can't unfortunately 😒 Also love your username and pfp
It's amazing to watch defense lawyers sell their souls for so little.
It is a lawyer duty. Even when the suspect is clearly guilty, they have to give them the proper process of being convicted. Yeah it can be irritating that the suspect would plead not guilty.
Yeah, because withdrawing $4,000 and leaving the comfort of your home to go stay in a vacant building in Detroit seems like something an innocent, competent parent would do. 🙄
Amazing how selfish and unaware they are. The more background I learn on this case, the more it seems that these parents are seriously lacking both personal accountability and empathy for ALL of the victims and their families. Their son obviously wasn’t shown or taught either properly.
I’m glad you pointed that out because in any other instance most would assume they were trying to run but nope…they just glossed over it like “it was logistics” 😂
I have nothing to say here because I have no sympathy for what happened. All i can say is facts and logic. nothing else
Ethan is a COLD blooded killer, he looked those councillors in the eyes and came up with a very quick somewhat believable story about why he was sketching the KILLING of people and they bought it because of just how calm this little psycho was? Ethan was taught by #Jennifer from a young age to be very calculating much like #Jennifer herself COLD and calculating!
Blame game! Justice system is not all that for justice, more for a conviction than anything. He is not the victim, but there is a societal problem here!
His father doesn't get off the hook that easily. A gun nut with no responsibility towards his other kid(s)
How can parents “refuse” to take their child home when school tells them that is what has to be done?
And needed a mental health evaluation.
Because they think is the school job
This is how some parents are so delusional about their own children.
One word: Trifling
just because someone didn't like his art? what will be next, kick a kid out of school for wearing a Trump 2024 shirt?
She's only crying for herself. Was she crying during the arraignment for her son where they read all the kids who died and others injured? No. What a wonderful person.
U can't blame his parents? ...The US sells gun and controlled violence like candy! Jt 😀😃
Yes
You as a parent control what your children watch the games they play they toys you buy them, you teach them proper behaviour and how to cope without hurting others.
She’s sorry she got caught
@@richardj927 why not she bought the teenager a handgun a and probably crying that he got caught for shooting someone. How's that right to bear arms feel now for both of those suckers
It's crazy how the public school I went to had us be searched everyday! Not Once had a student with a gun. These people are so negligent.
Schools are not allowed to do a much as they used to as the same people who scream that you are taking away their rights start fighting's them in both the courts and hand picked politicians to do their bidding, as they don't give a crap as their own kids go to high dollar private school so if your kids get hurt so be it.
This is bs they never do anything until it's in a nice neighborhood detroit public school had the issue they started putting up metal detectors still didn't work because they wasn't letting the world know but since now it was a nice neighborhood they wanna make it so open should've been started it because it should've never even happen
Unfortunately I guess it just depends on the school. My sister works as a school teacher and she had one of her students threaten to shoot another student once. The kid got suspended and when they came back their backpack had to be searched every single day.
Everything I’ve heard about this case so far indicates that these parents did absolutely nothing to stop their child from committing this horrible crime, and seemingly everything in their power to enable him to commit this crime, including literally arming him.
they groomed him to kill. just like impotent Madison Cawthorn commanded.
No wonder their own son had these thoughts...the parents seem like they are definitely not stable also
Jive. How can u blame the parents? How? Y don't u notice the US sells controlled violence and guns like candy? Wrong. Jt 😀😃
They're neglectful parents, not involved like a lot of parents are nowadays. They want their kids to like them,, so they don't make them angry, upset with discipline. Sorry about the kids and adults that are scarred for life because of this pair!!.
And let me guess, "Sweetness".....you are a model parent with your cartoon stripper persona 🙄 😆
I didn’t have the best upbringing or the best parent either but this is inexcusable. The whole family is trash and obviously the apple doesn’t fall far from the tree.
@@miller8272 like meth?
Evil, hatred, and stupidity really runs deep in people.
God's planet 👍🌎🙏🕊️ Devil's world👎🌎🤮👺👹😈🤮
@@christophernogowski517 yes! Amen to this. He was kicked out of heaven and brought woe on the earth
@@christophernogowski517 what a joke 🤣🤣
They are related. .
Yes
If the school was concerned enough to call his parents & try to send him home…then WHY didn’t they AT LEAST check his backpack & locker once they found out he would have to stay?🤨🤨🤨 You would think that would be an *obvious* safety precaution considering the nature of their concerns…right?
I wanna say thank you to the officers who did what had to be done. Hearing that they aren't doing well brings tears to my eyes.
Finally parents being held accountable for their children's actions
He's not a child, they are trying him as adults...
But why did he shoot up the school? That's the real question.
No idea
Why? The parents didn't break any law.
@@midnitdragoon seriously????
The real question is what ATM allows you to withdraw $4000?
Exactly! I was thinking the same thing. Most are $300 per day.
I withdrew 4300 a few months back to buy a truck, you just have to do it in multiple transactions one after another, there's a limit per transaction but not a daily limit
i never thought about the fact that police men have to run past dying kids in that situation, absolutely horrible thing to have to do, respect to those that were on the scene.
I never thought of that either :(
They teach active shooter training in most schools now. Since medical happens after the area is secured they are trying to teach the general public how to make a tourniquet (using a belt, a rope tightened with a pen, etc.) which can save lives because a person can bleed out before help arrives.
@@Tropical241 that's awful, to have to teach kids that. America is insane...
Me either…until now. Broke my heart and made me feel sick
The school should be charged for having ill educated counselors.
Thank you
Umm. Why aren't we charging the school too? The school let the kid go back to class after the parents refused to take him home. If we are gonna point all the fingers why didn't this kid get a councilor AT the school??? Of course the kid is gonna lie!!
Why did the parents refuse to take the punk home? What was their reason, after all it is their son and their responsibility.
Because the kid played it off and seemed fine, you people don't pay attention. My gosh, even with a video you're still asking a question that was answered in the dang video.
Dog and pony show.
Right. He should've went to ISS and/or the counselor's office. People don't take mental health seriously enough
@@fifermcgee5971 would you take a punk home knowing he's got a gun in the backpack?
This story is so sad… RIP to the victims. It breaks my heart that children can’t go to school in a safe environment.
Children can't go to school in a safe environment in the USA period.
@CZcamsrs fan And dj too Exactly.
They all look evil in their mug shots. Strap them to gurneys and administer lethal injections to the parents and their devil spawn. 😠😠😠😠😠😠
@pissanta annadoyle they had metal detectors in middle school when my kids went to school in Vegas.They definitely should have them in high school. Way to many school shootings
The f*ucked up States of America!!!!
It’s a typical and not surprising thing.
Unfortunately this type of events won’t get fixed.
Adults will never compromise and fix it.
Teens seem to want more for their own safety than adults do for the students.
Which says a lot about our country.
Exactly
He bought his kid the gun just four days before, that's criminal negligence if I've ever heard it.
Or was it planned?
thats why im against guns
Those “parents” were ready to abandon their son and go on the run.
kid was already in custody they knew exactly where he was and they were hiding from pubic scrutiny not the law
They are 2 terrible parents and human beings. Too bad they won't be up for the death penalty but they totally deserve it for turning their son into a monster. The parents are more to blame than their son.
@@Caracal-mb2ji yea, if you believe that, then I have swampland in Florida to sell you.
@@Caracal-mb2ji Nah. They were running from the law.
@@Caracal-mb2ji Ohh, you’re on their side eh? I hope people keep an eye on you
*That boy never stood a chance with these parents.*
*He literally begged for help and his parents literally ignored EVERYONE involved.* 🤦🏻♀️
Therapy? Nah this is America let's get him a gun! Absolutely disgusting.
F**k him…I have no sympathy for the kid. He was deemed a sociopath at birth with these parents
Begged for help?!
In my school we had the questionable kid in the school go up to another student and say he had a bomb in his backpack and then left. I was then informed about this by the student who was told and immediately went to the teacher but she did not care at all. it took me leading a revolution in my class for my teacher to call someone about it. instead of any police officers, SRO or even bomb squad was never called NO instead, our principal came into the class picked up the backpack, and then left, while we were sitting in the hall right outside the same classroom. Schools DO NOT take these matters into consideration enough and events like this shooting are a perfect example.
It's about time parents take responsibility for their kids and their actions
I’m pretty sure I’m not the only person aghast at the fact that no one - especially the school authorities - checked the contents of Ethan’s backpack following discovery of his note.
Yeah, after 20 years of school shootings I thought that was standard procedure by now.
They found him searching online for bullets, and 1 drawing. That's not illegal its disturbing, but they had no idea what was going on at home. The parents fully supported guns being used by all, and hide the information that could have saved the lives of the victims. The blame should be on them.
Yep that is a no brainer, first thing that should have done is the backpack checked.
Seriously,..it makes No Damn Sense because,..it makesnodamnsense!!!😞
@@YvetteB. spot on
I feel like the school officials should also be be charged with neglect.
they will never be alarmist over something they have no control over.
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No the parents was good enough. The school tried.
They will likely be sued by victim's parents.
If he was brown. They would have
I'm so happy to see parents finally being held accountable for their kids! Every time I see a juvenile on trial as an adult for a heinous crime, I always wonder: where are the parents?! No underage person should have unsupervised access to a firearm! I was glad Rittenhouse got off because it was clearly self defense, but his mother should have stood negligent charges for him being there in the first place. Anytime a kid takes a controlled weapon to a school, the parents should be tried for neglect, and as accessories to any crime they commit. Hopefully this will set a new precedent in the courts, and standard in parenting: raise your kids!
The school staff should be held accountable just like the parents. Both knew crucial info
For this case the parents definitely deserved it. But for other cases, I don’t think a parent is to blame when a kid is good at hiding his tracks and gets their weapons from some other source.
@@Fanimei but if your a parent…and that’s your child then the responsibility still solely falls on you…I mean because you are the parent right? 🥴 I guarantee if your kid wins the Nobel peace prize you’d take some credit for it lmao but if they go shoot up a school your gonna stand there scratching your head wondering where THEY went wrong? 😂
@@lm4733 No cause I don’t believe that the way a child acts is solely from upbringing. Sometimes some kids are born with a few screws loose. And anyhow it’s not like the parents 100% know what their kid is doing all the time, because parents should know to respect their own child’s privacy. That should be the case with most people in the western world unless you had very strict and controlling parents. All parents can do is lead them on a path and hope they stay on it. If they go astray it’s not a case of bad/good parenting, because that is subjective. The good-hearted parents who have a child that ends up shooting up a school would say “I should’ve been more stricter, we should’ve done this, that” etc. But if that was the case then all of us would had to have had some form of solitary confinement in our lives to assure we weren’t some come-to-be psychopath. I know I’m rambling on at this point but there’s so many factors to take into account about this.
Yes I agree the school officials should also be held liable for not protecting their other students and staff from an identified threat
I send out so much love and gratitude for those serving the community that day. From the officers to healthcare workers, to the MH professionals who will try to pick up the pieces.
I know the devastation of holding onto others tragedy, feeling so much empathy for those who lost someone, without any appropriate avenues for grieving what you see.
I pray the families of these children are safe and together tonight ❤️🤍
What happened to “zero tolerance”? If his parents were called, he should have been sent home. Period.
parents were told to get counseling for the boy within 48. What does that tell you.They have major problems. the school then let him go back to class because the parents didn’t want to take him home. Don’t give them the choice. My sister in laws niece was in that school but luckily made it out safe. My daughter"s high school had 1,000 missing on Friday because of fear of a copy cat.
@@kevinmeyer8068
I’m confused. What is the school supposed to do if the parent doesn’t pick up their kid? Wouldn’t the results be nearly the same if they school just kicked him out on the curb? The boy could have rampaged while being escorted out. Or he could Re-entered the school and started shooting.
@@majorlazor5058 The school would then contact the authorities. Law Enforcement or Dept of Social Services. I am not blaming the school by the way. I think a third-party investigation is in order over the school actions, of which the Superintendent has already called for.
@@keithgainey7853
I agree the school should have contacted authorities after the parents refused to pick up their son. I’m just skeptical this massacre could completely have been prevented by the school’s intervention.
I wss sent to a crazy ppl hospital in 8thgrade for repeating my classmates saying gun i guess cus im from da hood
Just cause ya can breed doesn’t mean ya should.
I said that about blk ppl and I was called a racist.
@@hatespeakersargonofakkad6523 Wow. Imagine that.
If they're found guilty expect a lot of bad natured children being turned over to government facilities. Who's going to risk raising a bad kid if they can go to prison for the child's crime.
Tell that one to the Supreme Court Roe v Wade. And now they upholding Mississippi Abortion laws. Men making decisions' for Women who also won't pay child support. What a messed up system.
@@hatespeakersargonofakkad6523 no wonder she left ya. 🤣
truly heartbreaking situation. Not to belittle the sacrifices made and the suffering that has occurred, but I do believe mental health and warning signs need to be taken way more seriously. You can see from this situation that there were indicators beforehand, and if due diligence had occurred they would have realised how dysfunctional that kid and his family were. Similar to that of the Parkland tragedy. I can't help but feel that some of these tragedies are preventable.
God bless those officers. I could only imagine the trauma all these officers are feeling. Many prayers.
“His demeanor seemed calm” yeah no shit he’s a psychopath. I wonder how skilled those administrators were at reading someone’s body language they never have been good at understanding their students
Sociopath is the term your actually looking for
Calm demeanors
Able to change their personality to suit the situation to get what they want
Psychopaths are usually unhinged and suxh
Their defense is getting very... Crumbly.
Finally holding parents accountable.
My prayers goes to all those who have been affected by the evil act.
- Parents withdraw $4,000 cash
- Parents don't turn up when their arrest warrant is issued
- Parents are found in an abandoned warehouse after hours long manhunt
- Lawyer "Of COURSE they were going to turn themselves in."
Ok.
Surrrrre.
I can't be a lawyer that's sick they ran and they left him there mentally sick and bought the gun for him not guilty my assss that how can she sleep at night money must be nice
His parents could've stopped it and the school could've stopped it but they didn't. Classic breakdown of the system.
Understatement of the year. American schools are the new shooting galleries.
My thoughts and prayers to the families and friends of the murder victims.
This is a total nightmare and a very sad situation 😞
"Blood everywhere & world is dead" wasn't enough to send him home & require a mental evaluation before able to step back in school. This could have been prevented. Must follow protocol no matter the response.
With all due respect. Of course it could have been prevented Everything can be prevented. Perfect world. Unfortunately we are not there yet.. wer humans
This was after he searched for ammo days before...they clearly had grounds to send him home
Did you see blood somewhere? I saw a empty ambulance cart being pushed not much more than that. czcams.com/video/s7ZsYe5Uwg0/video.html
@@bairong9 Psssst...it's just part of the plan to take away more freedoms.. smoke and mirrors. When this is all wrapped up they will have passed several laws against parental rights making you less free. I can explain it to you but can't understand it for you unfortunately...czcams.com/video/s7ZsYe5Uwg0/video.html
When questioned about the drawing, his response was it’s a new video game design he was working on. These types of games that depict murder, auto theft or any other type of violence need to be removed from our stores immediately, and, never be produced again.
What sane parent buys a child a gun for Christmas?
It never said he bought the kid a gun...
They are insane.. so yeah.. druggies and drunks.. that's who does this.. Mental ward nut jobs.. That's the repiglikunt party!
Right and without locking it up. Granting him accessible access
No sane parent!! They’re insane
It doesn't matter if you lock the gun up or not the kid is 15 if he wants in a he's going to get it just the same as an adult will. The fact of the matter it comes down to garbage parenting. Stop being your kids friend and be their parent and teach them something.
This is the reason why I have my kids home schooled 🤦🏼♀️…..May God watch and protect over everyone and I pray peace upon the families who had lost a loved one from these tragedies
That hurts ur kids more than bullets even could, trust me. Home schooled kids are some of the least adjusted ppl ive ever met and struggle to form any sort of relationship with other ppl, and REFUSE to see anything from anyone elses point of view bc of thr lack of exposure to certain ppl and lifestyles... the lack of social skills leads an abnormal amount to be pedophiles and shit... were they ever able to go to public school?... (edit, just clicked on ur account. Ur kids are rly young id give it a chance... ig ur not letting them go to school u shouldnt rly be leaving ur house or driving or handling knives/hot things... those kill a lot more ppl, especially if u want to put it into percentages theres 1000s of schools in this country, maybe 15 mass shootings... thats like using 9/11 as a reason to not fly, also key word MASS shooting, ghetto kids in chicago take a gun to school and either shoot their boyfriend or someone they dont like all the time, and thats where "school shooting" stats come from. Considering theres over 200 million ppl that went to school for at least 12 yrs and... are still alive... id say they're probably safer at school. A lot more home invasions and murders than home shootings)
@@RandyNachoManSandwich yes they have went to school in the past, but now I choose to home school them so I don’t have to worry if my kid is going to come home or not. and they have a lot of friends & family to socialize and interact with I come from a huge family so that isn’t something I worry about. This world we live in has became to be really scary. Some ppl are not afraid of anything just last week clear as day it was 4 P.M. 3 big men tried kicking in my door while I was home by myself with one of my kids thank God my neighbor was home cause soon as he seen that he chased them away with a baseball bat who knew what they were going to do I caught them on camera as approaching my house saying “is this the right house” they could have been watching me waiting for my husband to leave who knows what they could have done.
@@Gtagfuntoy so... why in the hell do u not own a gun?? This world isnt becoming scary love, it always has been, and we've always survived as a ppl. As i said ur kids have a much bigger chance of dying being in any sort of vehicle on the road with way more irresponsible car drivers than irresponsible gun owners... and a way bigger chance of dying or not having a mom anymore with u not having a self defense tool (specifically a gun so any attacker can not approach) and having 3 dudes trynna break into ur house... u know what doesnt have that? Public schools if 3 men tried to break into a school they'd have security gaurds (a lot of whom are actual cops at school, and cops on them pretty much instantly.... ur mindset is very fogged on this and ur putting ur kids in more danger than a normal parent would, id rather leave my kid with 400 other kids 30 teachers and a security staff in a locked brick government building. U legit cannot get safer than that.
@@Gtagfuntoy also due to ur other comment, saying that mass shootings are becoming a trend.... clearly u never lived thru the 60s-90s.... this is the most peaceful generation and the safest by far, and thats well acknowledged. Whats also well acknowledged is the only reason ppl like you think school shootings are going up is because of the big deal media makes abt it, its their biggest story of the year if one happens, if. Thats probably why the comment has zero likes, i hate using stupid terms like this but seeing as u think its safer to keep ur kids inside an unprotected building every day, are most likely against guns (ur here talking abt this and didnt say u went to go get a gun or wish u had one when u mentioned the 3 dudes), and think that the worlds just getting scarier and scarier, u should probably stay inside and keep ur kids away from gen pop, ur brainwashed, and brainwashing ur kids by default, if ur trynna tell me how scary the world is, a stranger who has been in his fair share of bullshit, i cant imagine the fear u impose on these kids, the worlds a beautiful place and its only gonna stay that way if u let them be a part of it, u cant take good kids outta the system bc theres a couple of bad ones... what if ur kid is compassionate enough to befriend some psycho sad kid? And that kid avoids doing something like this explicitly bc they can actually have a friend who wants to see them happy. If u seclude urself from what u want to change, theres no way it can....
@@Gtagfuntoy again its all love tho 🙏, id love a response just to know u read it and what ur thoughts are if u get the chance, stay safe ☮
Imagine it being your job to defend these monsters
The victims were failed in so many ways. The parents and the school were wrong for not sending the killer home. The only thing is, what if they did and the next time he went to school he did it anyway :( My heart goes out to the victims loved ones, those recovering and everyone affected, students, staff and community by this horrible act of violence.
He definitely would have did it one way or the other
Kids should be expelled instantly for even making these types of threats. And considered armed and dangerous and arrested for even appearing on or near campus.
He shouldn't have been allowed back especially when they saw his parents weren't going to be of any assistance.
Police definitely should have been called if the parents refused to take him never should be allowed back at school at least until he underwent some serious therapy.
@@ellebailey5358 no crime had been committed. No rules were broken. He had no prior history of issues or disciplinary action against him. The police would have liked to be made aware of the situation, but they would have needed probably cause to even search him. The school could have searched him for reasonable suspicion, but that would have been unlikely, as they had no reason to believe that he actually had a weapon. The school did everything that they legally had authorization to do, and nothing more. The school is not at fault.
So what are we gonna do? I know, let's tear up the foundation that the US is built upon so we can install an authoritarian government that lords over the rest of the country. Sounds like a great fucking idea. Then the media personalities can be judge, jury, and executioner just like they've always wanted.
The parents will be found not guilty and hopefully they sue the shit out of the municipality for the myriad of rights violations.
You’re responsible for anyone you buy a gun. Under aged or not.
They are afraid because their son killed white kids.
Exactly jus like Kyle Rittenhouse he didn’t buy that Gun he had what a Sad America we Live in
Then you're responsible for everyone that has a car.
@@taraMimi717 that part.
@@taraMimi717 yeah it's sad he protected himself. Omg evil person he is. Never ever protect yourself.smh
Thank God for the police department and their swift actions. My prayers to everyone involved.
Well said
The school is just as responsible as the parents. Just because the parents wouldn't take him home doesn't mean you send him back to class after doing what he did. Keep him the office or guidance and keep an eye on him. School just as responsible
Agreed
The school could face numerous lawsuits by the victims’ families.
Not just the school. Hold the bullies who tortured this kid responsible too
Too bad in any school district the parent will always be right cuz taxxxes... trust me, I work for one and it’s a toxic environment
The school is not JUST AS RESPONSIBLE. The school didn’t buy him a gun. The school didn’t know he had a gun. The parents did and they just let it happen. The school should’ve done more no doubt but the parents should bare the brunt of the responsibility for their child’s behavior. And they just enabled him and did nothing to make the situation better. They were told their child needed therapy but they just blew that off and allowed him to have access to a deadly weapon. SICK. They need to face the red hot heat of this blame.
All parents should be responsible for minors having access to guns
What about your car keys?
Amen!
Exactly!! Mrs. Rittenhouse should be right in there with them!!
you feel that way about Kyle?
It's Horrible what happened, yes parents should be held responsible for some part. That being said if they are going to be held responsible for their child why is he being charged as an adult just wondering. My thoughts and prayers with the victims and family.
ive never thought of that. imagine running past kids bleeding out trying to get to the shooter. not being able to stop and save their life
I live in Michigan and it is very sad what has happened. One thing that is still boiling my blood to this day was there was a supposed “countdown” and “threats” before day of and the school did nothing. Now im not so mad at the fact they did nothing, but mad and infuriated at the fact that they are not owning up to their own mistakes. The blood is on Ethans hands, his parents hands, and whoever decided to take Ethans “threat” as a joke. I agree with the sheriff. He should have been notified as soon as it came up because then the investigation happens. Oxford Superintendent needs to own up or whoever allowed Ethan to no be searched.
This is So sad.. Praying for families
keep your worthless prayers to yourself.
@@tonymacintosh3744 praying for you now, Tony! Be blessed!
@@tonymacintosh3744 keep your disgusting attitude to yourself
J Stephens: Why weren't you praying for this not to happen in the first place. Why is it after the fact that you religious freaks always do your praying....
@@wickedhenderson4497 What nonsense with your prayers!
Taking out $4000 and evading the police…yup they were definitely trying to turn themselves in 🤦🏻♀️
media sure can spin the truth, enjoy the new distraction
$4,000 is what they need for an attorney
@TBZBTS, they left because they didn't feel safe. Which is believable. They took out 4,000 to pay the lawyer. A friend let them stay in basement. Exactly like their lawyer tried to tell the Prosecutor. But she won't listen. The Sheriff had warrants for them and picked them up. Whatever the son did and whatever the parents did is bad enough, let them have a fair trial and be sentenced. But telling lies to get a win on the case is not what America does. It's a tragedy the students were shot and killed. And it could've been prevented. Everyone should learn from their mistakes. Including the School, parents, shooter, and other students. They knew this was going to happen. Someone should've called the Police. They knew weeks before. When the deer head or horse head, whatever it was, got left at school, it should've been a red flag clue. The dead bird in the jar of urine. But the School just said they were investigating. Ethan left messages. Other students left messages. They all knew this was coming. Then Ethan got the gun finally. Took photos of it and posted it. Still no one called Police. The kid had lost it way before the day of the shooting. Yet, the School Counselor said he was fine. I can't understand the students not telling the Police. Or the School ignoring all the red flags. But then, we have a Prosecutor willing to make crap up just for a win. This is not how I was taught to win at anything. You don't lie and cheat.
@@everythinghate666 No one cares about your bullsh* t, flat Earther conspiracy theories.
@@gloriabridges6235 welcome to the real america, built on lies, deception and blackmail.
Love on your loved ones. You never know when it's the last time. To the school and the parents, I would like to know "WHY?!"
I applaud the Sheriff and his actions to hear him say they went to go look for them imagine if they waited for them to turn themselves in. Glad they are locked behind bars.
If the parents wouldn’t take him home then the school should have examined his backpack!!! Before sending him back to class!! Adm should never underestimate a drawing no matter what the student says or his demeanor. School is responsible too.
i live not far from the shooting. We hear the press conferences every day from the police. The police have an offer assigned to the school as does our school. School never informed the officer in the school. this sheriffs department takes these things very seriously. sure they would have stopped it. Years ago a six year old boy from the same county heard that his classmate said he was bringing in a gun to shot someone. young child told parents who called this sheriffs department. Next day the sheriffs department stopped a six year old child with a loaded handgun. Listen to a six year old but not a teacher.
they could have had the Son arrested.. Both the school and the parents.
Sure! Let's turn everything where we're searched for anything anytime! Did anyone learn anything about the war when Hitler was running everything?
We're not very far for that to be a reality in USA today!
Rename yourself to captain hindsight and you're good
Too busy focusing on the narrative instead of the proof the narrative is bullshit.
I went through this in 2 states where school shooting incidents occurred.
Kids were shot but didn't die so they swept the failure under the rug and focused on shutting down parents who weren't sticking to the narrative on social media. My daughter called crying from the main office in NC and the student council office in FL. In both cases the students told on a shooter with a gun on the premises. In Florida they told the officer. He verified the GUNS on the kids seat in his truck. Dismissed it as just some good ol boy shit and 3 days later after the little shit wounded maybe 4 students and over a half dozen teachers they still not only managed not to kill him in a damn shoot out no less but then used him not killing anyone as something viable when they charged him.
This has been the dynamic from the start.
Even gangbangers in liberal cities won't stoop to shooting up a school.
So they can't point to them thus they focus on protecting the narrative on themselves.
Well, when you don’t require adults to lock up their guns around minors, your state is asking for it. If you want guns, you need to use them safely. It should not be easier than getting a driver’s license.
They gave him the gun for Christmas. 🙄
We had guns out in the open all the time when I was a child they were in a gun rack. You knew not to touch him because you were taught. Stop being trash parents and teach your children respect for things.
@@markallen4364 You can't assume everyone grew up the way you did. I remember a time when an agruement may have resulted in a fist fight but never a shooting. Now you can never tell when someone is going to just pull a gun, shoot you, and claim self defense for a simply agruement or fist fight. We will always have to adapt to the times.
@@rhondaflipsoff8271 right. That's right where the problem started. The parents. As a Mom myself, the LAST thing I would get my fourteen year old for Christmas or for ANYTHING, is a gun. I absolutely agree with the charges on the parents. The other thing that really irritated me was the school sending him BACK TO CLASS, after they told his parents that he needed to be in counseling within 48 hours. He shouldn't have been allowed back until that was fulfilled, and he was evaluated by psychiatrists. The fact that a teacher reached out about his internet search for ammo, and his mom texts him and says "I'm not mad. You just need to learn to not get caught".....great parenting, MOM. 🙄
@@nathansutphin6543 no. You have to raise children that respect authority and know what the meaning of no means. Kids aren't any different now than before. Society needs to be changed.
There are hundreds of thousands of children that have guns. They don't all kill people with them. It's all about respect and authority, and proper education.
Parents: Withdrew 4k and fled
Lawyer: They weren't running, they were turning themselves in
It is so sad that everyone who could have prevented this failed.
The "counselor" who let him back into class should spend some time behind bars as well.
Prison? czcams.com/video/s7ZsYe5Uwg0/video.html
Some people should never procreate!
he is the step father
An your one of them
@@sonnywhitefeathermarshall6899 No he’s Ethan’s biological father
@@colleenlewis2780 oh. ok...
The dad in the video appeared to be smirking? For the parent's attorney to say the parents were not hiding in the empty warehouse is insulting. This is so heartbreaking for all of the innocent victims and their families.
Prayers for all the officers involved. For all good officers. Their jobs are not easy ..
There is a reason their kid was like this. Parents who’s kids do this are always culpable for not getting their children proper mental healthcare.
I don't know about ALL parents who children committed murder BUT these individuals are ridiculous!
Unbelievable, attorney expected folks to buy her bs, no show Friday for arraignment and $4000. from an ATM
Justin tarot@ stop the so called mental health this is not mental problem
Tell that to the parents of gang members who kill thousands every year. Are they going to be arrested for their kids crimes as well?
@@r.d.9399 Gang members don't shoot up schools. Other gangs yes, in actions of violence sure. But there is never a case of a Gang member going to school and airing it out in bullets it's always lackluster white kids who's parents don't pay attention to them or too much attention to. And who have multiple sign of needing help that parents either ignore or enable. Also Gang members parents typically either not involved (meaning they don't supply their child with weapons), non existent, or actually do work to stop their behavior or kick them out (valid in some cases). Don't compare apples to oranges. Ppl wanna complain shit that's not even the same. When almost every school shooter looks flipping related. . .this parents paid for a gun for an under aged person they are at fault. They didn't even use proper gun safety to keep it out of reach from their teen
Their lawyers are so unprepared LOL
Funny how this gets 20 times more airtime than the Maxwell trial..... shameful America
"Serious horrible terrible murder" that prosecutor has such a way with words
The school needs to be held accountable, too, for allowing him to be returned to class and for not searching his backpack.
What are the rules for searching students when parents are present? Also, only the parents knew their kid owned a gun.
Of course, the administration are accountable for those crimes. They did not search the killer's bag.
I know in my kids district.. 10mins away..a back pack is on school property so it can be searched at anytime if on school property.
At this point .. ALL SCHOOLS need to HAVE METAL DETECTORS + Check/Search b4 entering the building .. just like a club or a court house 💯
I mean Thts what thy did at my high school back in the day , 😌😌😒 .
Lol nothing will change and you people in the comments know this. People in this country do care about each other. Remember Dylan roof😏? The police gave him Burger King after they Arrested him. Remember El Paso when that kid killed 23 people? I guess those people get to spend Christmas without their children huh? 😬 I bet if he didn’t have access to a gun our messed up parents those families would be grieving right now. 🥱 but nothing will change.
The children killed seemed bright and poised to accomplish things in their life and they were killed by a kid whose parents had no business being parents.
Damn shame!
Withdrawing $4,000 USD from an ATM and found squatting/hiding out in an abandoned warehouse after skipping out on arraignment and fleeing their home.....totally normal behavior for someone "absolutely intending on turning themselves in". Just a matter of logistics, right? Right.
Nothing says “love” like buying a gun for your child. Beyond disturbing.
True love
The Sandy Hook shooter's mom also bought her son his gun. Except he used it on her first before killing all of those other little children and teacher.
My dad bought me a .22 single shot rifle when i was 15 and i never once thought of goin on a rampage because my dad told me the responsiblity of owning a firearm. Clearly this dad did not do a good job with his son
They didn't buy it for him. It's the father's. They were going to teach him about guns.Nothing the parents did was illegal.
@@r.d.9399 the student wrote the gun belonged to him. there was a picture of it in his childlike hands.
Something is really wrong with America, why on earth will a parent agree to buy a guy for a kid? May the lost beautiful souls rest in peace 🙏
in middle east countries kids get a full auto assault rifler at age five. you figure out what is wrong with USA ok.
I said the same thing he’s fifteen they
Only Satan worshippers would buy a lethal 9 mm for their devil spawn. 😠😠😠😠😠😠
@@grahamward7952 Middle Eastern countries do not claim to be the protector of the free world. Do you know there have apparently been 222 school shootings in the USA this year alone? They just haven't made news headlines with the likes of CNN and Fox.
@@John77Doe Oh don't be ridiculous. Moronic parents buy deadly toys for their children. And moronic parents are found across every grouping you can think of.
This is Disgraceful. To charge these parents. Are we go start charging parents. Now.
These kids could have still been alive if everyone would have done their part. Smh this is horrific.
if the parents refused to take there son home, the school shud have called the cops
He had not yet committed a crime.
Yes, because that boy at first was a threat to himself by clearly writing out "my life is worthless" and "help me" he was mentally unstable and still just a kid. Parents had to of noticed changed behavior in the home.
This school did not do enough. They could have done so much more
It's to bad that they don't handle all of there cases like they are handling this case. It tragic that a child has done such a horrible thing to so many innocent people sorry for the loss and a prayer goes out to the families .
The school should bear some responsibility for what happened as well
This why Parents need to be involved in their kids lives more and aware of the shit they are into not just assume they know their kids! These parents look just as disturbing as that kid!
Yes they do but too busy acquiring "THINGS/Stuff" trying to be their kids friends. They can start by getting off their cellphones and paying attention to their kids & engaging them......it's so bad it's Pathetic. Be a Parent or stop having children. They need positive attention, parenting not friendship. Don't blame everything on the school. It begins at home. Lead by example. Talk to them so that they understand Bullying is not acceptable and should not be tolerated. Some of the parents today act as if they are Scared of their children....WHY??
@@justsaying3729 well said
These parents aren’t being real PARENTS
They WERE "involved in their kid's life". Just in a terrible way. And they WERE "aware of the shit they are into", as the school had the parents in THAT MORNING to discuss the kid's mental illness. They did "know their kid", they taught him all he knows. And bought the gun, and mom suggests being more sneaky to "not get caught". Everything about your statement is absurd, as I've just demonstrated. Every phrase, clause, or claim you made is nonsense. Same with justsaying, what a nonsensical statement. They "were on their cellphones" is the problem? "parenting not friendship"? What window do you have into their lives to make such a claim, the same made up information to assume they are always on their phone? None of what either of you said is the problem. The parents bought their mentally ill child a gun. Your thoughts are just noise. Distractions with ultra-vague Rorschach claims about good parenting. If only they were just like you, none of this would have happened, is what it sounds like you think. Nonsense. Here is the problem, the parents are Ammosexuals and wanted their kid to be one also. They succeeded, all too well. Your platitudes about parenting are just meant to make you feel good about yourselves. What illogical nonsense.
@@justsaying3729 this is well said!!!! Being bullied is not a reason to take someone’s life!!!
Can the district explain why they allowed an obviously disturbed student who presented a possible gun violence threat and was writing about hearing voices back into the classroom after parents would not take him home? And why wasn't the school safety officer informed of the situation as the police stated in their press conference? A 48 hour suspension might have been appropriate considering students get sent home for dress code violations. The administrators at the school should lose their jobs.
Where did u hear/see that he was hearing voices?and yes I agree..my kid gets a call home& detention for a dress code🤷♀️
Definitely missed all around. He should have been sent home until psychiatric help. School is also at fault!
What do you expect a school to do. The country won’t pass common sense gun laws but school administrators are supposed to have superhuman powers and overcome risks laws should mitigate. Families are responsible for their children, we are the parents not the school. Your kid, my kid doesn’t get to go and disrupt the learning and peace of serious students because we have failed.
I agree completely! The schools incompetence cost children their lives! They need to be held responsible!!
@@irishroze5695 *Not missed* They encouraged him!
Teach your children not to be bullies. If not, they won't make it home safe.
it's encouraging to hear the cops humane take on the situation. it is not normal and should not be normalized to be dealing with the death of children in this way
When they have such a drawing, you’d think they would check his bags, car and any other belongings that he had with him in school. Four people would be alive today if someone did one simple search.
4th amendment
Not sure a picture a kid has drawn is enough of a reason to search their bag.
@@darklaw7766 if they're drawing other students being killed, it requires at least a good explanation.
@@krunkle5136 because if you draw a picture of a student being killed it means you are going to kill them.
We have rights in this country. You cannot be searched for artwork, only for making threats. The blame goes on the parents for purchasing their son a handgun
when the teacher found those disturbing letters he should of not let him back in the school
The school was not aware that the student owned or had access to a gun, the parents however provided that child with a gun. The teachers and school tried sending that boy home, the parents refused. Tbh, the teacher was the only proactive individual who acted with foresight.
@@cady__ you have to be kidding me? That makes me sick to my stomach.
Teachers do not expel students. The teacher did the due diligence of sending the picture of the child's drawing to admin. The administrators are the ones who were responsible for bringing the child into their office, looking at the picture, talking to them, examining backpacks and lockers. If the administrators had examined the backpack and found any weapon, it would have been an immediate explosion. The teacher was not culpable here. The teacher has an entire class, likely six different classes of students to deal with each day. That is why schools have administrators. The administrators failed the children and staff of that school.
The school should be held accountable at this point as well... They didn't take the correct actions to protect their students and now 8 are dead.
Fry the school also!! The school administrators that were in that meeting should be held liable. The school failed to do the right thing by not suspending on the spot!!!!!!
Look at their eyes, they’re insane.
Its a good thing that you are not in any position to make any calls on this.
@@matthewgibson1953 you must be a friend of theirs or have the same way of thinking. FYI, the eyes are windows to what’s within.
All 3 of them
Exactly! I was thinking the same thing. All 3 of them are evil.
@@matthewgibson1953 you got that right
America's love affair with guns continues not matter how many school shootings occur each year. I lost all hope about the gun insanity in this country after nothing was done following the slaughter of twenty 6-year-olds in school by a high-powered rifle.
It's crazy still to know in the E.U and in China knife killings harms more base of percentage in school then another if it ain't a gun it's a BOMB or KNIFE (China) especially if it's ain't Fire it's Acid (E.U) especially
Yes so far the gun lobby , the NRA, and republicans are the barriers in place. Maybe some day sanity will reign
That rambo complex is strong.
If you think this is america thing where people going to school and harming kids China and E.U have the same issue mainly in China it's usually teachers doing it with a knife and in the E.U it's bombs or acid attack or knife by other students
@@sandwicheman9772 Its easier to defend oneself against a knife, and it takes more guts to attack with a knife. I would much rather deal with knife attacks than mentally ill p**sy cowards with guns.
Hold everyone that could have prevented this accountable. It’s clearly a lot more than just the parents
The school is back peddling, they should be held accountable for the murders.