Police arrested James and Jennifer Crumbley, the parents of the suspect in the Oxford High School shooting Ethan Crumbley, on manslaughter charges. #CNN #News
All parents will be responsible now. I see a future of many democrat parents being put in prison. The vast majority of gun deaths are perpetrated by a certain race and the parents are largely democrat. Should work out great.
It's a parents job to educate and raise their children. If the child is a dirt bag, it's because of them. So yes it is their responsibility. What a silly thing to say. If you child is a monster, guess what? You did a bad job. You failed. Accept the responsibility. You are liable for them until they are a legal adult.
They were "distressed" because they were caught. The person who let them into that warehouse in Detroit needs to be charged with at least being an accessory after the fact to the murders.
@@kobebean4359: I saw a video/news report today that the one who let them in said he "didn't know anything" about why they wanted him to let them into the warehouse. That is very reminiscent of "Hogan's Heroes" character Sgt, Schultz, with his, "I know nussing!"
Do you agree that the School is just as culpable then? Yes I am worried! Not because I am worried about my kids in school shooting but because how far do extend parental control over another? If (God forbid) your child should happen to kill a family just after getting their license in an auto accident acting reckless because you're not there to stop them are you responsible because you gave them the car?
@@eugenelawson5255 No, genius. A car is not given to someone - and generally not used - for the sole purpose of killing people. I wish that people like you would stop to think for a second before posting silly comments.
@@eugenelawson5255 You said it, "accident". This kid didn't accidentally kill his schoolmates. The scenarios aren't even close to being logically comparable. It's possible that someone runs a red light, hits you and kills themselves and your passenger. It's unfortunate and preventable, but a kid going to school with a gun his parents bought him and killing his schoolmates is not only unfortunate,and preventable but also premeditated murder on the kid's part and negligence, aiding and abetting a crime, resisting arrest, and child endangerment/abuse for the parents at the very least.
@@chicago77 You missed the point. If you know your kid is messed up, why would you arm them with a car, gun, or anything that could harm others. We need new laws, a new mental health system, and mandatory parenting classes for at risk kids. Society should not have to pay for others irresponsible stupid choices.
*Why weren't Timothy Simpkins parents arrested?. Why did he get bail and this suspect gets terrorism charges despite their being no political or religious motive?.*
@@gminer03 that guy is in jail… case closed he’s guilty… these ppl went on the lamb… case is still pending against them… they are innocent until proven guilty…
Right because they didn’t seem to care about the fact that their son was struggling with himself. Like even if they didn’t care about other students’ lives you would think they would at least care for their son’s 🤦🏽♂️
"They feared for their safety" You know who else feared for their safety? Every human being in that school your son put in danger and terrorized that day. Not to mention the terror most students in the surrounding areas now feel.
And it is very convenient to put all the blame for this on this single family and not where the problem truly lies, society. This is not the first school mass murder in the US and will not be the last. Statistics show that the next gun related incident in a school will be within a few days, and the next one with multiple deaths within two weeks. In my country children learn how to color, count, and play in school. In the US they are taught how to flee for shooters. In my country youth fear how to 'survive' the exam weeks. In the US they fear how to survive high school. Any action by students for safer schools and a safer life, is immediately attacked by organizations, and if they cannot win from the group, they rip apart every individual person that supports this. But before you enter 2022, you will be talking about another school, other victims, other parents, and how sad it is.
"you know who else feared for their safety" ...Dude... literally every kid in Chicago and other Dem run cities. Those shootings and and drop out rates are crazy!
@@jasonfuchs4304 Your “what-about-ism” is both pathetic, and sad; instead of trying to deflect from the issue at hand, you really need to learn some compassion, and grow the fuck up. I hope you do, but I won’t be holding my breath… All the best.
These weren't just ordinary neglectful parents. These parents BOUGHT HIM THE GUN, laughed at his obsession with violence, ignored warnings from the school, and told him NOT TO GET CAUGHT. Throw the book at them.
It’s ridiculous that the parents claimed they fled because of “fear for their own safety”. They never feared for the safety of students at that school. They knew their son had a gun and never told the school. Smh.
There is a significant difference between being “scared for your safety,” and being scared of facing the consequences of your criminal behavior. These two criminals (I refuse to call them parents) were afraid of the latter.
It’s been said time and time again and now I’ll say it myself. “Some people don’t need to be parents”. They intentionally chose to do nothing about their problematic child when people kept trying to warn them that something was wrong.
*Why weren't Timothy Simpkins parents arrested?. Why did he get bail and this suspect gets terrorism charges despite their being no political or religious motive?.*
"Rarely" face charges. Maybe parents of these cases should face more charges. That should make for a deterrent for unsafe gun owning practices, that gives serious gun owners a bad name.
The person at the school who met with the parents and did not check his backpack with the parents there or check his locker before he returned to class should be fired !! I can't believe this.😡
The fact that a father buys his clearly troubled 15 year old son a gun, the mother texting her son "...You have to learn to not get caught..." - as he's looking for ammunition on the internet, while in class... tells me plenty about what kind of "parents" these two people are.
Did she really do that? Insane! I haven’t been following this case as sadly, school shootings have become as American as apple pie. But if she indeed text that. Their arrests are warranted.
Something I think people, especially the parents are overlooking, is that this kid wasn't just idly shopping for ammunition in class and got caught. The shooting happened the next day. He already had ammunition. He wasn't shopping in earnest. It's not like he had the ammo overnighted to him. He was searching for ammunition in class because he WANTED to get caught. He wanted the students around him to catch a glimpse of his screen over his shoulder and feel uncomfortable. It was a way of bragging about his plans. He was definitely getting sick twisted kick out of that.
@@thomyi The actions (as well as inaction...) of the so called parents when it comes to their 15 year old son, are beyond scary. Seems common sense and critical thinking are nonexistent, foreign concepts to both of them.
@@lionessrampant26 he was begging for help. In his drawings, he wrote a note asking for help and he admitted to having violent thoughts. This is where the parents are to be blamed. Even though the school contacted the parents, his parents just didn’t care enough to get him help. His classmates also said he seemed very depressed for a long time.
This is ridiculous. Every time there is a shooting I hear "there was signs". Why are the signs still being ignored? Why in the world did it make since for the school to allow him back in class? This could have been prevented.
*Why weren't Timothy Simpkins parents arrested?. Why did he get bail and this suspect gets terrorism charges despite their being no political or religious motive?.*
The parents ran because they knew they are liable for what their son did. Throw the book at that. They knew their son is disturbed and neglected all the signs.
This is such a sad tragedy that could have been avoided and the parents should most definitely be held accountable! But Am I the only one who feels that the school should bare more responsibility than they have? My God people... the kid is online searching gun ammunition while in class and that doesn't warrant him being removed from school/classes all together? I pray that every other school in the nation learns from this tragedy that sometimes parental school meetings and a 48hr window to get a child help is simply not enough! It's my personal opinion, but he shouldn't have ever been allowed to return back to school for any reason!
Yes the school should have some responsibility for their role in this. If Michigan does not have as we have in California law for such that 5150 refers to the California law code for the temporary, involuntary psychiatric commitment of individuals who present a danger to themselves or others due to signs of mental illness. It has been more generally applied to people who are considered threateningly unstable or “crazy. This is needed in every state and needs to be in our Federal Laws as well.
The school should be held liable as well, they should have called CPS to come get the kid when the parents left him there, the fact that the backpack wasn’t searched is ridiculous, the fact that they just sent the kid back to class is utterly ridiculous, I would sue the shit out of that school if my kid got shot
When the parents didn't step up and take Ethan home (or directly to a hospital), the school should have acted in loco parentis and summoned the authorities to come pic him up from the office. NOT send him back to class!
2 years later - a judge ruled the school and employees cannot be held accountable. The shooter has been sentenced to life in prison. We're still waiting for the parents' trials. Thoughts?
Look at the pictures your son drew. He's pleading for help. "Nah, he's good. Send him back to class" Knowing they just bought him a 9 mil, took him target practice with it, left it at home in an unlocked nightstand with ammo. They left school without him and his backpack and let chaos unfold. They are right where they belong.
We have to do something to stop all the gun violence in America. Too many shootings in our cities, too many shootings in our schools and at public events. I'm all for responsible citizens being able to own a firearm but there has to be something we can do to save lives and its not sending thoughts and prayers nor is it loosening gun laws and putting more guns on the streets of America.
@@j-dubb614 How about we start enforcing the existing laws already on the books today regarding guns? The vast majority of gun violence are at the hands of someone using a stolen gun and not legally allowed to even posses a gun at all. Give me one example of a new gun law that will impact those folks?
These parents should have to go to the funerals of the victims - and spend time in the morgue with the bodies. After that, they should have to look at the pictures every day from their jail cell.
Agree with this except the last piece- they’d get desensitized to seeing the victims’ corpses if they had to see those images every day, would mean nothing to them after some time.
Mr Barksdale had me at "they are horrible parents". I could not agree more. They have failed their child, failed their community and failed themselves as adults.
They're indeed horrible parents, but, ..the fact that a minor can carry a gun with impunity is the powerful NRA, right to bear arms? ..its 2021 NOT the wild west! ...we Brits are horrified how gun culture in America seems to be getting worse, ..always big outcry after the event, ...but nothing! ..nothing, gets done! !..it keeps happening! ..when not if it'll happen again for sure!
@@peterwainwright5994 I can't see sensible firearm restrictions coming into effect until AFTER the next US Civil War tbh. Which is probably gonna start when one of the states secedes from the union (I'm looking at you Texas)
They failed their child. They should also be charged with child abuse for ignoring his clear mental health issues. It's not like he was a little down in the dumps. These "parents" needs the while library thrown at them.
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His tweets didn’t sound suicidal at all to me. Parents were happy about the beautiful Xmas present they bought their 15 year old murdering BOY. Bet he want his mommy and daddy and they are too busy trying to flee. What a joke!
Finally someone speaking and saying the thing that needs to be said for every time something like this happens it's not the fault of "violence in the media" or "violent video games" It's horrible neglectful parents that don't want to be involved with their own child's lives that are the direct results of these type of things happening.
"that don't want to be involved in their own child's lives" I'm a high school teacher, and years ago I called a mother every day six or seven times about her daughter skipping class or various behavior problems. The mother wouldn't answer the phone. I just kept calling each day until finally she answered. I explained who I was and what her daughter was doing, and when I finished, she said (I will never forget it, word for word), "Me and my husband have removed ourselves from her problems." The girl was 14 years old! These parents are why she HAD problems. (Administrators wanted us to continuously call home, but most of the time we got reactions like this. We logged whatever we could in the computer just in case anything ever happened, the school could say they tried, and maybe a court someday would hold the parents accountable. But probably not.)
@@miriamchalmovianska863 They don't remove children for that kind of reason. They remove them for sexual abuse, physical abuse, etc. If they removed children from parents that were generally apathetic, they would need an army of social workers and a new country to put the children in.
Well, not really. They're kid is fully in state custody! He's perfectly safe and all his needs were being met when they decided to flee an arrest warrant...
No that child is going through the criminal process. A time when he is going to need the support of his parents. They left him with no regards for his needs.
I spent some time in the "system" as a kid for different reasons. I understand how few beds are available to kids who can't go home. BUT juvenile detention shouldn't be permanently taken off the table for Ethan Crumbly. I hope he can have a full psych evaluation before they fully decide whether to charge him as an adult or not. I worry what he may become if he's raised in an adult prison. He seems to have NEVER had a chance because of his parents. I hope someday Ethan can participate in therapy, maybe even a youth group therapy. I think he could benefit from meeting other bullied kids and learn new coping techniques. ...So much was neglected by his parents, yet they gave him a handgun. He actually asked for help with thoughts he couldn't control. THAT'S a huge sign of someone who can be helped!! It shows so MUCH self-awareness, and it's not an easy thing to admit YOU have a problem like that. But instead of helping him, they armed him. Imagine after the Kyle Rittenhouse case, most kids want guns for Xmas. Kyle is like Spiderman to them, a "hero." Now they think they need guns for self-defense and worse.
The parents bought the handgun 4 days before the shooting as an early “Christmas “ gift for the killer. They knew the son was unstable. The gun was in the killer’s backpack when the parents insisted the boy remain in school. The “mom” sent a text to her son : “don’t do it”. They knew he had the gun.
*Why weren't Timothy Simpkins parents arrested?. Why did he get bail and this suspect gets terrorism charges despite their being no political or religious motive?.*
I actually feel bad for this kid. He clearly had a ton of problems these people didn't feel like addressing. And now a bunch of people are dead and hurt. And they don't seem to care that his life is ruined too.
Exactly I feel bad for everyone except the parents. The parents & the school failed this kid. This kid was crying out for help. What school official allows this kid to go back to class. My son was kicked out of school for 3 days because he came within 3 feet of someone who contracted Covid. He couldn't return until he got a rapid Covid test which came back negative. I was forced to pick him up in the middle of the school day. I'm sorry but the school is also at fault here big time. That child should not have been let back in school until a mental evaluation was done by a doctor.
Although I live in britain I would like to offer my sincere deepest heartfelt sympathy to the 4 families who lost a loved one .There is a saying you can run but you cannot hide
They are not being charged with being shitty parents. There is actually nothing illegal about that as long as the child’s basic needs are met. What they did which is different than any other domestic terrorist parent is they supplied the weapon. And actively ignored and pushed any of the schools warnings and reports encouraging the violent behavior. For those bringing up parents of gang members. If they start buying weapons and praising illegal activity of minors in gangs encouraging them to commit violent acts yes charge them too.
@patrick sapanaro A teacher's job is not to "parent" all their students. The school could have been more vigilant but the parents literally bought their obviously disturbed son a weapon, encouraged violence, and knew what he was going to do before he did it, and chose not to warn anyone or listen to the school who wanted to pull him out of his class.
@@Mr.77776 I bet they are right wing, love our gun type people. So this is about 2nd amd and right to have arms. We need rules. Kyle got away, but these trio wont.
@@Songs-lr4wt Two separate cases. Kyle was defending himself. These fools were negligent. Their son should've never had access to the gun. And if the father gave him the gun that's even worse. Why you comparing these two cases?
It's not just that. Who was threatening their safety? Their son wasn't coming back to them dead or alive, so it's not like he could go home after and kill them. Other parents weren't gonna come after them for revenge, they didn't know who the parents were or where they lived. So again, who threatened their safety?
@@JeremysBlackWalMartBouncer Point taken overall for sure. I think they may be referring to the Parents of the Victims who were struck by bullets. Maybe they were 'concerned' about a biblical response (e.g. eye for an eye)(???). The way that's most likely deduced is through the students directly naming the shooter. (That's not at all a criticism if they did.) To be very sure though I loathe the actions of these parents and think what they did is vile. Shame and guilt are at least two things I hope they feel... and at least some of that towards the obvious ways in which they allowed/ encouraged this outcome and IMO set their shared child on a legal and life course that will alter who he could have been with even one parent who wasn't these fuckheads. 🕊Hana 🕊Madisyn 🕊Tate 🕊Justin 🕊All of the living Victims of this day
Social media posts by these “parents” showed that the mom was a avid pro-gun person that carried her own gun on her at work and the dad was a massive Trump supporter. Do with that information what you will…
These people are despicable. They’re enablers to their son(the suspect); and they abandoned him to “escape” their demise. It’s absolutely CRAZY. Prayers and justice to the victims.
They are despicable for allowing their son to have or have access to a gun. Who in their right minds do that, let alone the fact that the son was obviously a very troubled individual who probably needed psychiatric care. Parents need to be parents, they are utterly equally guilty I would say as it sounds like this whole thing was preventable.
@@harrybuttworth6765 I just don't think they could handle the kid tbh ... he probably got everything he wanted and this is the product of that . It's totally a parenting fail but I think the kid might of bullied them ... it can be done . Things go missing from your house all the time and the only way to stop it is get the kid what ever he wants .... which leads to stuff like this
These people? What the hell did the school admin let that kid go back ot class? That in and of itself is a major problem in the public school system. Kids get away with violence against their teachers and their peers.
The fact they let children die… they knew and they let their son kill other kids… I’m just… there are no words. Horrible people. Horrible parents. Like someone else said, “every child deserves a parent, but not every parent deserves a child.” This is just despicable…
@@bluelush4168 not the same. there would less victims. a gun kills more people in short time than stabbing people with pencils. probably not even fatal to be stabbed by a pencil😂 parents knew he had a firearm.
@Suq Madeek What its designed to do really isnt the issue, maybe for you gun grabbing liberals it is.Murder is murder, whether you use your hands or a hammer. We should ban hands and hammers too.
The school is also complicit. He was clearly a danger to himself and others. The only reasonable response was to call the police and place the child on a 72 hour psych hold to determine where to go from there.
@@kelvinmanley6166 we saw Trump supporters getting mowed down and killed in Wisconsin parade last week... Apparently some deranged black lives matter Obama felon rat went off his nut..
Often parents see their kids with an optimistic hope. The school should have told them to take him home. You don’t ask the parents, you tell them. The teachers did their job, the supervisors failed.
They set their kid up to commit this crime, they facilitated it, they condoned it and then they ran off and abandoned him after he committed the crime and was imprisoned. "Horrible parents" doesn't begin to cover it.
The problem isn’t that they gifted their kid a gun which is legal by the way, it’s that they were morons with zero responsibility. The laws state you have to have both weapons and ammo stored separately and locked away out of the reach of children. This isn’t the only case where parents are negligent, but this is a very rare time that they prosecute the parents as well and i am so happy to start seeing this happen.
Hopefully this all gets figured out. In my opinion , the school is partially just as guilty for not notifying the police and letting him stay on school property. Prayers for all the families that have lost their loved ones. 🙏🏻
I think most disturbing is their actions after the shooting her sending the text telling him not to do it and the father reporting the gun missing. These actions happened over thirty minutes later. After the incident. Very telling.
That’s best case scenario. Worst case they figured being the parents of a school shooter could be profitable… Book deals, movie rights, what have you. I’m a cynic but it seems like they wanted him to do it and that makes me wonder why.
What's even more disturbing is the fact that this happened on school property and therefore the school was responsible for the lives of all those children who got killed. Yet in spite of that and knowing how potentially deadly this kid was because they SAW his violent drawings and read his violent writings and even saw the part where he wrote that he couldn't control his homicidal thoughts and wrote "help me".... in SPITE of all of that the SCHOOL allowed this kid back in the classroom that day when, as "mandated reporters", they could EASILY have called child protective services,the police, had him psychologically evaluated and so forth. They did NONE of those things. And now this brand new prosecutor who's trying to make a name for herself is doing this incredible snow job of trying to prosecute the parents, which is never done in these cases, to distract from the fact that the school is arguably more liable for the deaths of those kids than the parents even, for the aforementioned reasons. I'm not excusing the parents. How could anybody do that? But I hope everybody realizes what's going on here. The prosecutor doesn't want to make enemies with the local school officials so early in her career, so she's completely silent on their role in all this, while focusing solely on the parents. It's a much softer and safer target for her. Even the superintendent of schools in his speech right after the shooting said that they had no idea that this child was violent. That's obviously a bald-faced lie because the meeting with the parents that day was precisely because the teacher had seen his violent drawings and writings. Everybody's trying to protect their jobs, the superintendent of schools, the prosecutor etc. They know how badly the school could get sued. So they're just focusing on the parents. That's a crime in and of itself. The school is ultimately liable because they did NOT search that kids backpack and they let him go back to class. And children died. Yes the parents are idiots. But it didn't happen at their home, it happened at the school. They're legally as well as morally liable because they KNEW, they had all the evidence in front of them that day...and they failed to act. Period.
They want guns. But not accountability, responsibility, liability. They have a kid. But don't think it necessary to be accountable, responsible, and liable.... This is a PROPER precedent. Kudos to the prosecutor💯💯💪🏻💪🏻
Some of his classmates are saying this was about a bullying issue but either way, what someone does with a gun even a gun that you happen to buy them is their responsibility.
@@jmilez6002 I didn't know SUVs were made to kill people. Also, if your son describes how he wants to run people over with your SUV, and makes other threats... then yeah, maybe you have some responsibility.
At this point his own statement, “The thoughts won’t stop. Help me.”, should be taken not as an excuse he tried to reach out to his parents for help to stop him from committing mass murder, but rather as asking them to help him on doing it. They bought him the gun, and knew his intentions.
@@yeslek That's why I blame the parents more than the kid. The way I look at it, he was sick and needed psychological help. He was having intrusive thoughts. The parents were the ADULTS and are 100 percent responsible for him. This whole tragedy could have been prevented if the parents weren't such lazy idiots and actually paid attention to their kid. They had to have known he had mental problems. That doesn't happen overnight, there are always signs.
Prayers and love going out to all the parents of lost loved ones. Beautiful children, heart breaks watching this. These parents are insane, neglectful, ABSOLUTLEY AGEE with all the charges. When we were children, our families had guns, they were disabled, locked up, we were shown the correct way to us the hunting rifles, showed us everything to due with safety. We were never allowed to touch them until we were out in the fields or woods hunting, then they were placed back into box disabled again before leaving our hunting sites. What's happening these days is insane & carelessness, especially from these neglectful parents. Again, condolences to all families in this very difficult time of great sadness. Thinking of you all, may god bless.
Would love to know why they where arrested and the evidence of it. But I understand how a left wing idiot thinks that a problem needs to be blamed on others, and not the person that did the action.
Perhaps your about these parents but I have a hard time believing that most parents actually see or know or suspect anything in most cases. This is only ONE of those of potential cases and your taking this for what it's worth from CNN which means it's probably not very accurate at all. CNN is all over this one after they watched there lies crumble in the Rittenhouse exoneration so of course they find this case and jump all over it like a bitch in heat. Don't waste your time with CNN for news because your not getting anything near the truth watching these idiots.
Let's just say what this is.... the parents in my opinion (in some weird psychotic way) WANTED their son to do this. Why, I have no clue, maybe a bully, I don't know, but some odd reason, they took enjoyment of the possibility of their son actually shooting up the school. I believe the parents are psychotic and was on the verge of committing suicide together at some point. Freakin weird individuals in this world.
Yeah I'm wondering if they joked about it at home around their kid, wishing they can shoot up others. That or they are very in denial about what their son is capable of.
Sick ! But you’re right . I think they knew of his issues and intentions which is why the dad purchased the gun for him. Ignoring calls from the school about the online search for ammo yet texting him laughing about it …we may never know the reason , but they definitely wanted him to do it .
Agreed. The text messages seem like some weird form of encouragement. Reminds me of that girl who encouraged her boyfriend to commit suicide a few years back.
Ethan: Displays all warning signs of mental health issues, murders 4 people, injures 7 and gets thrown in jail, is advised he will be tried as an adult, at 15 years of age. Parents: Lawyer up… and *flee* … leave _child_ in jail… afraid, confused, mentally ill and clearly homicidal… Also parents: sob like 15 year olds at arraignments. The rest of the world: Well…
If only the “authorities” or US in general put as much effort into or cared THIS MUCH about actually preventing these goddamned things in the first place🤔🤷🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️😡
Yes but let's overturn Roe versus Wade and force more parents to have children that they are not intellectually, emotionally, or financially equipped to raise.
exactly, bc america isn't pro life, they're pro BIRTH and allow the nation to continue being awash with guns, so those kids can be slaughtered in their teens....'Murica
I'd be all for overturning it...... as long as we make invitro & everything else "unnatural " illegal too. If you can't get pregnant then you gotta adopt an American kid. If you do get pregnant, ya gotta be married, for life,.... it wouldn't even be a choice.... the dna tests will decide who is automatically married. Of course this could never happen, that would keep too many families together
Not only did the parents let their son go back to class after learning about his intent, the SCHOOL OFFICIALS let him go too! To top it off no one searched his backpack!
Has anyone definitively said that the school officials knew the kid had access to an unsecured weapon? Were they supposed to be monitoring his social media, or that of his parents? As far as I’ve heard, no one reported any of this to any authorities, school or otherwise.
@@zigzag4462 "Has anyone definitively said that the school officials knew the kid had access to an unsecured weapon?" I didn't see that they knew but that's one of the first things that is usually asked; do you have a weapon at home? No, it's right here in my backpack.
@@linkjourney422 If you can’t figure that out after listening to the evidence already provided (separate video), you have a serious critical thinking problem.
I love the claim that the parents "feared for their lives" yet didn't all those defenseless, innocent CHILDREN hiding & being MURDERED by their son experience REAL fear, not possible. I imagine those students "feared for their lives" & actually FOUR did lose their lives!!
Everyone evolved in helping the parents hide and get away needs and should suffer some consequences and the charges against the parents are are rightfully so
So proud of the way the officials in my state are handling this case. Finally some accountability. I hope this will help change things for our kids and figure out a way to keep them safe. The parents didn't feel safe? What about the helpless school children that were being hunted and murdered by their murderous son?
what they're doing is an overreach in power. You cant convict a child as an adult AND hold the parents responsible at the same time. it's one or the other
@@animal1nstinct394 Wrong. Federal law is crystal clear--an adult who sells or gifts a handgun to anyone under age 18 commits a crime, and the sentence is increased if they did it with knowledge that the minor had any intent to commit a crime. If you commit a crime that abets murder, then you are guilty of involuntary manslaughter per Michigan case law. The MI state law that allows a minor to "possess" a handgun for target practice or other legal activity under supervision of an adult doesn't mean they could gift the gun to the shooter; it only means that the minor could be in possession of the gun during a permitted activity. That is clear because MI law states with respect to pistols (the state uses that term rather than handgun) that “Purchaser” means a person who receives a pistol from another person by purchase or gift, and “Seller” means a person who sells or gives a pistol to another person. Sellers of handguns are not allowed to provide them to minors. There is no exemption for parents to gift handguns to minors as that would be in violation of federal law.
Am I to understand that the parents, after buying their son the murder weapon, was running away? To save their own ass, were they turning their banks on their son? What a despicable act.
They turned their back on him the moment they ignored the drawing that led the school to call the parents in the first place. That's compounded by the fact that they knew he had the means (firearm) to carry out such a despicable attack. They all deserve everything that's coming to them.
George: YES, these, in name only, parents were fleeing. I believe, because they had withdrawn $ 4,000 Dollars in CASH and were near an International Airport in Detroit, they probably were headed to Canada. As to YOUR point about these scum, abandoning their son; truly, from the facts of their cruel neglect in involving him with ill-legal guns; they had always deserted Him ! Now these disgusting, selfish pigs, are EACH facing 60 Years in Prison, if CONVICTED ! Frankly, I think that IS TOO LIGHT a sentence for two fiends who treated their child's health, safety and sanity as IF it was a JOKE ! IF THERE WAS TRUE Justice, these despicable, EVIL FIENDS WOULD spend the rest of their worthless lives in Prison ! !
They were irresponsible in getting him a gun. And even if it’s legal to get your child a gun where you live take the gun away once you see red flags. They should have asked him where is the gun. If he said home then the parents should have did a body search while at the school. They should have emptied his backpack. They should have emptied his locker. Wherever your child says the gun is make sure you go and retrieve it never allowing that child to touch that or any other gun again. It’s EXTREMELY SHOCKING that there’s irresponsible parents like this.
If my child did something this terrible; getting away. I would feel like a complete failure and would not leave my child to face the consequences on his own.
Do agree, the line of crap from the lawyer not knowing about the court proceedings at 4pm yesterday, after we heard the police and prosecutor were on the phone constantly with the lawyers and were told they were turning themselves in. Its breathtaking how stupid some people are.
@@michaelkeudel8770 I just watched the hearing and the prosecutor's office wouldn't call them back or tell them... I didn't know that at the time of this video. If you haven't watched it, let me know and I'll send you the link. I still think they are accountable, but... I do think the prosecutor's office wasn't being honest.
@@goose7574 sorry, I don't buy the lawyers changed story. And the parents knew they were supposed to turn themselves in and the police and FBI were looking for them, they made no effort to turn themselves in. They made a bad problem worse for themselves.
The excuse will be 'got lost on the way', 'google maps didn't work right', they accidentally withdrew thousands of dollars and turned off the cell phones.
@Mot Goaiu Not sure what the link is for, but I don't recommend that ppl click on in, in case it's a "bad link". If ppl want to watch the arraignment, they can go to the Washington Post's YT channel to watch it.
They hid “for safety” they should’ve used SAFETY precautions when raising a child with mental instabilities, but instead bought them a gun for Christmas. So horrible…kids are now dead 😭😭😭
I actually blame the parents more than the kid. He's a child, with obvious mental problems, and they KNEW it. Yet they never did anything to get him psychiatric treatment. Yes what the kid did was evil, but the parents were the ADULTS and are 100 percent responsible for him. They had to have known he had problems. Mental problems that severe don't happen overnight. There are always signs. Besides, who the hell gives a 15 year old kid a handgun?!
Most of the problem with that is the fact that most shooters are adults who bought their guns legally. You cannot hold a parent liable for the actions of an adult child. However, you could probably try, and the effort of trying to tie these liabilites on to others will definitely impact how people who know a disturbed person take serious these issues and start to act on behalf of themselves, if not the community (that they don't care about).
There are more of these kind of American parents than most Americans realized. I used to work as an interpreter for and as assistant to social workers in the Pacific Northwest area, and I encountered these kind of parents on a regular bases in the rural area. I wouldn't be surprise if these parents are actually proud of what their son did.
@@williamw422 Yeah, that guy who drove into that parade was from a rural area wasn’t he! If there was a gun problem in the rural areas you’d know it. People have been killing people since the beginning of time. It’s irresponsible and ignorant to blame objects and location for the act of murder.
They thought they were being smart trying to stay one step ahead of the game….. but you can’t run or hide from karma….. you took this kid with you to the gun store sent ill mannered texts about learning how to not get caught….. All the years of ignoring this kid and bad ass parenting led to this situation… there needs to be changes within the school system as well… he should never have been allowed to leave the principals office or wherever he was being held… CPS should’ve been notified and the situation explained….. there are so many woulda, coulda, shoulda’s being tossed around but the world is left with this type of chaos and it will continue until accountability is placed at the forefront……🤦🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️
Love your channel, but whomever is doing your captions needs to be fixed/replace. Please fix it. Hard of hearing and deaf can’t follow your videos at this point. Otherwise keep up the good work!
During the Prosecutor's clip, I asked why was the kid's backpack not searched during the parents and kid meeting at the school meeting. I then remembered it would be an illegal search without a warrant. However, if the parents were fearful or really concerned of what was said to them in that meet, THEY as parents should have searched the backpack and the tragedy would had been avoided.
Let’s hope that law changes now……if a school official suspects that something is wrong, they should be allowed to search a students locker, backpack, purse, etc….had someone done this, it would have never happened….
You're right: the state cannot search without probable cause or consent to search. We can be sure that even if the school had asked to search the pack, the parents would have refused. Whether probable cause existed at that point is another debate, but the police were never brought in on these threats. Any cop would have asked the parents and/or the kid: where is that gun now/do you have any weapons with you now?
How ironic, they worried about their safety. Yet it appears they had no problem being irresponsible gun owners.
You won with this comment
Common sense isn't that common..
It's what the Republicans are all about, take heed! This is exactly want the Republicans want for America.
@@guynorth3277 stop
Ahh, the old worried about their safety excuse. Next they’ll be protecting themselves on the streets of Kenosha with AR’s.
Not all parents are responsible for their children's heinous acts but these two definitely are.
All parents will be responsible now. I see a future of many democrat parents being put in prison. The vast majority of gun deaths are perpetrated by a certain race and the parents are largely democrat. Should work out great.
Well said.
@@jimlovesgina ew. Your racism is showing.
It's a parents job to educate and raise their children. If the child is a dirt bag, it's because of them. So yes it is their responsibility. What a silly thing to say. If you child is a monster, guess what? You did a bad job. You failed. Accept the responsibility. You are liable for them until they are a legal adult.
If these parents are guilty, then I'd say there's a few judges who should be guilty .
The parents were “distressed “ upon arrest. How “distressed “ do they think the parents of the deceased feel? They are bad parents.
They were "distressed" because they were caught. The person who let them into that warehouse in Detroit needs to be charged with at least being an accessory after the fact to the murders.
@@jacklow9611 yes that’s what I was saying too. Find out who he or she is and put them in prison as well. They are no different.
@@kobebean4359: I saw a video/news report today that the one who let them in said he "didn't know anything" about why they wanted him to let them into the warehouse. That is very reminiscent of "Hogan's Heroes" character Sgt, Schultz, with his, "I know nussing!"
Very
It’s a shame we have to refer to them as parents. Can we use the term breeders instead?
It’s about time adults are being held accountable for encouraging/enabling troubled youth toward these deadly actions.
Do you agree that the School is just as culpable then? Yes I am worried! Not because I am worried about my kids in school shooting but because how far do extend parental control over another?
If (God forbid) your child should happen to kill a family just after getting their license in an auto accident acting reckless because you're not there to stop them are you responsible because you gave them the car?
@@eugenelawson5255 No, genius. A car is not given to someone - and generally not used - for the sole purpose of killing people. I wish that people like you would stop to think for a second before posting silly comments.
They are charging him as an adult. Adults are responsible for their actions, right?
@@eugenelawson5255 You said it, "accident". This kid didn't accidentally kill his schoolmates.
The scenarios aren't even close to being logically comparable. It's possible that someone runs a red light, hits you and kills themselves and your passenger. It's unfortunate and preventable, but a kid going to school with a gun his parents bought him and killing his schoolmates is not only unfortunate,and preventable but also premeditated murder on the kid's part and negligence, aiding and abetting a crime, resisting arrest, and child endangerment/abuse for the parents at the very least.
@@chicago77 You missed the point. If you know your kid is messed up, why would you arm them with a car, gun, or anything that could harm others. We need new laws, a new mental health system, and mandatory parenting classes for at risk kids. Society should not have to pay for others irresponsible stupid choices.
“They were distressed” ?! How about the parents of the children who were MURDERED by your son?!
or that guy who drove through the parade!! There were WAYYYYY MORE people hurt by that!!!
*Why weren't Timothy Simpkins parents arrested?. Why did he get bail and this suspect gets terrorism charges despite their being no political or religious motive?.*
The mother "dont her caught"
@@gminer03 ok and? So according to your logic, we shouldn't cover this because something worst happened elsewhere? Great logic you got there buddy
@@gminer03 that guy is in jail… case closed he’s guilty… these ppl went on the lamb… case is still pending against them… they are innocent until proven guilty…
"They're horrible parents" ...thank you for coming out and saying it.
They had a dumb kid ..
Trump Q-Cult parents buy gun for son.
@Travel Crawl, If we could rid ourselves of Trump Q-Cult RepubliKKKans, the world would be a great place.
Right because they didn’t seem to care about the fact that their son was struggling with himself. Like even if they didn’t care about other students’ lives you would think they would at least care for their son’s 🤦🏽♂️
Notify me when they charge the teachers and school administrators with four counts of Critical Race Theory and social justice brainwashing.
“Scared for their safety” No. Those kids at the school were scared for their safety. You’re scared about the consequences.
agree 100%
Amen!
How many years do you wanna see the parents get?
That's garbage. I've never been concerned for my safety as a student. This is a total farce.
@@johnp2696 congtatulations , that means you have never been in an active shooting scenario at your school
"They feared for their safety"
You know who else feared for their safety? Every human being in that school your son put in danger and terrorized that day. Not to mention the terror most students in the surrounding areas now feel.
And it is very convenient to put all the blame for this on this single family and not where the problem truly lies, society.
This is not the first school mass murder in the US and will not be the last.
Statistics show that the next gun related incident in a school will be within a few days, and the next one with multiple deaths within two weeks.
In my country children learn how to color, count, and play in school. In the US they are taught how to flee for shooters.
In my country youth fear how to 'survive' the exam weeks. In the US they fear how to survive high school.
Any action by students for safer schools and a safer life, is immediately attacked by organizations, and if they cannot win from the group, they rip apart every individual person that supports this.
But before you enter 2022, you will be talking about another school, other victims, other parents, and how sad it is.
@@dutchman7623 the problem is guns and the families bud.
"you know who else feared for their safety" ...Dude... literally every kid in Chicago and other Dem run cities. Those shootings and and drop out rates are crazy!
@@jasonfuchs4304
Your “what-about-ism” is both pathetic, and sad; instead of trying to deflect from the issue at hand, you really need to learn some compassion, and grow the fuck up.
I hope you do, but I won’t be holding my breath…
All the best.
@@ThisCharmingMan1984 Ummm, literally facts. You can Google? You ppl actually scare me. Please do not breed.
These weren't just ordinary neglectful parents.
These parents BOUGHT HIM THE GUN, laughed at his obsession with violence, ignored warnings from the school, and told him NOT TO GET CAUGHT.
Throw the book at them.
It was probably.abput getting caught about shopping for ammo. Who knows but yes he was failed from the gate
Crumbleys on the run 🏃
@@greatergood3706 No, they were caught bobbie ! Happy holidays
This is weird… the only thing I can liken it too is a parent buying minors alcohol and they get in a car and hit and kill someone.
Yes Dear Leader Kim Jung-Un, we shall prosecute the family at your discretion.
It’s ridiculous that the parents claimed they fled because of “fear for their own safety”. They never feared for the safety of students at that school. They knew their son had a gun and never told the school. Smh.
That attitude was it was not a problem unless it directly affected them
You're diluted. Dude has 4 murder charges and is being charged as an adult hell they transfer him to the county jail
@Help And Reward dude you know his getting charged as an adult right?
@@jamesricker3997 unfortunately for them it does now 🤦🏾 and my hopes are they find them guilty regardless weather the pulled the trigger or not
Ain't that some nerve pfft? 🙄 And have they even expressed sorrow to the families for what their son did? I bet they didn't!
There is a significant difference between being “scared for your safety,” and being scared of facing the consequences of your criminal behavior. These two criminals (I refuse to call them parents) were afraid of the latter.
It’s been said time and time again and now I’ll say it myself. “Some people don’t need to be parents”.
They intentionally chose to do nothing about their problematic child when people kept trying to warn them that something was wrong.
And there's only going to be more of this when unstable, unsuitable parents aren't allowed to have abortions.
How about this:
A child shouldn't have a fuckin' gun, regardless of their mental state.
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Exactly! Insanity
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*Why weren't Timothy Simpkins parents arrested?. Why did he get bail and this suspect gets terrorism charges despite their being no political or religious motive?.*
And mentalt Disturbed ever
“They feared for their safety….” Now, you know how those students felt while your kid is firing on them because of your irresponsible parenting.
Everyone is responding to that quote, the it is a lie, they were fleeing the country.
"Rarely" face charges. Maybe parents of these cases should face more charges. That should make for a deterrent for unsafe gun owning practices, that gives serious gun owners a bad name.
Exactly.
The person at the school who met with the parents and did not check his backpack with the parents there or check his locker before he returned to class should be fired !! I can't believe this.😡
"Your children need your presence more than your presents." -Jesse Jackson
The great grifter
@@noway57 Don the Con man Trump?
I LOVE PRESENTS :)
Points!
Jesse jackson….who’s son is a convicted felon.
The fact that a father buys his clearly troubled 15 year old son a gun, the mother texting her son "...You have to learn to not get caught..." - as he's looking for ammunition on the internet, while in class... tells me plenty about what kind of "parents" these two people are.
Did she really do that? Insane! I haven’t been following this case as sadly, school shootings have become as American as apple pie. But if she indeed text that. Their arrests are warranted.
Something I think people, especially the parents are overlooking, is that this kid wasn't just idly shopping for ammunition in class and got caught. The shooting happened the next day. He already had ammunition. He wasn't shopping in earnest. It's not like he had the ammo overnighted to him. He was searching for ammunition in class because he WANTED to get caught. He wanted the students around him to catch a glimpse of his screen over his shoulder and feel uncomfortable. It was a way of bragging about his plans. He was definitely getting sick twisted kick out of that.
@@thomyi
The actions (as well as inaction...) of the so called parents when it comes to their 15 year old son, are beyond scary.
Seems common sense and critical thinking are nonexistent, foreign concepts to both of them.
@@lionessrampant26 he was begging for help. In his drawings, he wrote a note asking for help and he admitted to having violent thoughts.
This is where the parents are to be blamed. Even though the school contacted the parents, his parents just didn’t care enough to get him help.
His classmates also said he seemed very depressed for a long time.
you strike me as a person that does not think for themself people in charge are not always looking out for your best interest
The school screwed up here too!!! They should have FORCED that kid go home with his parents!
agree 1000%. "No" should not have been an option. "Either take him home right now or we will call the authorities to have him 5150'd. Your choice."
This is ridiculous. Every time there is a shooting I hear "there was signs". Why are the signs still being ignored? Why in the world did it make since for the school to allow him back in class? This could have been prevented.
*"They feared for their safety."*
*Why? Their shooter son was already in custody...*
*The irony of their statement is too much.*
Sounds like they were trying to paraphrase rittenhouse defense. Apples n oranges.
retaliation bruh
*Why weren't Timothy Simpkins parents arrested?. Why did he get bail and this suspect gets terrorism charges despite their being no political or religious motive?.*
People who have guns have them because they are frightened.
@@yakivpopavich Straw Man.
The parents ran because they knew they are liable for what their son did. Throw the book at that. They knew their son is disturbed and neglected all the signs.
I believe the school officials were negligent too!
Thank God he didn't kill no black people!😒
@The Real American Patriot! Hey I want to than you and people like you for this inflation, high gas prices and civil chaos. Let's go Brandon.
@The Real American Patriot! more like to see sleepy Joe so he can tell them how to deflect from the actions of their crack head , gun toting sons
@The Real American Patriot! for a Pardon!
This is such a sad tragedy that could have been avoided and the parents should most definitely be held accountable! But Am I the only one who feels that the school should bare more responsibility than they have? My God people... the kid is online searching gun ammunition while in class and that doesn't warrant him being removed from school/classes all together? I pray that every other school in the nation learns from this tragedy that sometimes parental school meetings and a 48hr window to get a child help is simply not enough! It's my personal opinion, but he shouldn't have ever been allowed to return back to school for any reason!
Yes the school should have some responsibility for their role in this. If Michigan does not have as we have in California law for such that 5150 refers to the California law code for the temporary, involuntary psychiatric commitment of individuals who present a danger to themselves or others due to signs of mental illness. It has been more generally applied to people who are considered threateningly unstable or “crazy. This is needed in every state and needs to be in our Federal Laws as well.
The school should be held liable as well, they should have called CPS to come get the kid when the parents left him there, the fact that the backpack wasn’t searched is ridiculous, the fact that they just sent the kid back to class is utterly ridiculous, I would sue the shit out of that school if my kid got shot
When the parents didn't step up and take Ethan home (or directly to a hospital), the school should have acted in loco parentis and summoned the authorities to come pic him up from the office. NOT send him back to class!
2 years later - a judge ruled the school and employees cannot be held accountable. The shooter has been sentenced to life in prison. We're still waiting for the parents' trials. Thoughts?
They “feared” for their safety? The didn’t give a crap about anyone else’s safety. Justice matters.
It feels like those so called parents wanted their son to unleash carnage on those innocent babies in that school.
Look at the pictures your son drew. He's pleading for help. "Nah, he's good. Send him back to class" Knowing they just bought him a 9 mil, took him target practice with it, left it at home in an unlocked nightstand with ammo. They left school without him and his backpack and let chaos unfold. They are right where they belong.
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Exactly. All of a sudden they care about “safety”!!!!! POS
The school officials didn't care either, they allowed a kid with a gun to walk right back to class.
This is how you stop the madness, arrest and charge the people responsible for letting unstable people have access to guns.
Good job DA office!
We have to do something to stop all the gun violence in America. Too many shootings in our cities, too many shootings in our schools and at public events. I'm all for responsible citizens being able to own a firearm but there has to be something we can do to save lives and its not sending thoughts and prayers nor is it loosening gun laws and putting more guns on the streets of America.
Spot on, RG
Ronald Reagan : laughs
The Congress and Senate!
@@j-dubb614 How about we start enforcing the existing laws already on the books today regarding guns? The vast majority of gun violence are at the hands of someone using a stolen gun and not legally allowed to even posses a gun at all. Give me one example of a new gun law that will impact those folks?
HOW TOTALLY IRRESPONSIBLE OF THOSE TWO TO EVEN HAVE A GUN ACCESSIBLE TO THEIR SON!!!
These parents should have to go to the funerals of the victims - and spend time in the morgue with the bodies. After that, they should have to look at the pictures every day from their jail cell.
Agree with this except the last piece- they’d get desensitized to seeing the victims’ corpses if they had to see those images every day, would mean nothing to them after some time.
Mr Barksdale had me at "they are horrible parents". I could not agree more. They have failed their child, failed their community and failed themselves as adults.
my dad did 8 years for armed robbery i have never been arrested should we start blaming kids for what their parents did obam thinking
@@rixslade6032 you’re kidding me.. you ‘joined’ a bloody Hour ago, to Troll THIS topic??
Ffs..
@@its_Today_ Trolls be trolls.
They're indeed horrible parents, but, ..the fact that a minor can carry a gun with impunity is the powerful NRA, right to bear arms? ..its 2021 NOT the wild west! ...we Brits are horrified how gun culture in America seems to be getting worse, ..always big outcry after the event, ...but nothing! ..nothing, gets done! !..it keeps happening! ..when not if it'll happen again for sure!
@@peterwainwright5994 I can't see sensible firearm restrictions coming into effect until AFTER the next US Civil War tbh. Which is probably gonna start when one of the states secedes from the union (I'm looking at you Texas)
They didn’t even care for their own son. If my son was sounding like he was suicidal, I would have taken him right away.
They failed their child. They should also be charged with child abuse for ignoring his clear mental health issues. It's not like he was a little down in the dumps. These "parents" needs the while library thrown at them.
Where's the trolls?
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His tweets didn’t sound suicidal at all to me. Parents were happy about the beautiful Xmas present they bought their 15 year old murdering BOY. Bet he want his mommy and daddy and they are too busy trying to flee. What a joke!
There’s no evidence he was suicidal
@@othiq1077 that’s a reach.
Why haven't the officials at the school who allowed him to return to class also been arrested and charged?
"LOL, next time don't get caught"
What kind of parent says that?
The same kind of nutjob who gives a *15 year old* kid a gun as a "Christmas present." A gun nut Karen.
Finally someone speaking and saying the thing that needs to be said for every time something like this happens it's not the fault of "violence in the media" or "violent video games" It's horrible neglectful parents that don't want to be involved with their own child's lives that are the direct results of these type of things happening.
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Spot on statement!!!
"that don't want to be involved in their own child's lives" I'm a high school teacher, and years ago I called a mother every day six or seven times about her daughter skipping class or various behavior problems. The mother wouldn't answer the phone. I just kept calling each day until finally she answered. I explained who I was and what her daughter was doing, and when I finished, she said (I will never forget it, word for word), "Me and my husband have removed ourselves from her problems." The girl was 14 years old! These parents are why she HAD problems. (Administrators wanted us to continuously call home, but most of the time we got reactions like this. We logged whatever we could in the computer just in case anything ever happened, the school could say they tried, and maybe a court someday would hold the parents accountable. But probably not.)
@@greyeyed123 then she should had been removed from the family gorcibly by the social care workers?
@@miriamchalmovianska863 They don't remove children for that kind of reason. They remove them for sexual abuse, physical abuse, etc. If they removed children from parents that were generally apathetic, they would need an army of social workers and a new country to put the children in.
They abandoned their child. The lowest of the low
Well, not really. They're kid is fully in state custody! He's perfectly safe and all his needs were being met when they decided to flee an arrest warrant...
No that child is going through the criminal process. A time when he is going to need the support of his parents. They left him with no regards for his needs.
Cowards
I spent some time in the "system" as a kid for different reasons. I understand how few beds are available to kids who can't go home. BUT juvenile detention shouldn't be permanently taken off the table for Ethan Crumbly. I hope he can have a full psych evaluation before they fully decide whether to charge him as an adult or not. I worry what he may become if he's raised in an adult prison. He seems to have NEVER had a chance because of his parents.
I hope someday Ethan can participate in therapy, maybe even a youth group therapy. I think he could benefit from meeting other bullied kids and learn new coping techniques. ...So much was neglected by his parents, yet they gave him a handgun. He actually asked for help with thoughts he couldn't control. THAT'S a huge sign of someone who can be helped!! It shows so MUCH self-awareness, and it's not an easy thing to admit YOU have a problem like that. But instead of helping him, they armed him.
Imagine after the Kyle Rittenhouse case, most kids want guns for Xmas. Kyle is like Spiderman to them, a "hero." Now they think they need guns for self-defense and worse.
That's the problem you have with them? Think what it would have been like if they'd abandoned him years ago. Nice, huh?
Well his mom did say she ain’t mad at him “just don’t get caught” the world is covered in a blanket of evil 🤦🏾♂️
The parents bought the handgun 4 days before the shooting as an early “Christmas “ gift for the killer. They knew the son was unstable. The gun was in the killer’s backpack when the parents insisted the boy remain in school. The “mom” sent a text to her son : “don’t do it”. They knew he had the gun.
"let's not be nice. They are horrible parents" yes, love this dude
My kind of guy! Tell it like it is.
I totally agree bad parenting is bad parenting and we need to make it clear that there are consequences for raising children to be violent.
8:20
I am "THE KING OF KINGS" Apocalypse 19:16. This year will be the end of the world.
Were the parents of the Christmas Parade Killers horrible? And how come CNN stopped covering the story?
I wonder if the mom is just upset because she got caught or upset because her family and herself are all felons? Great parenting, mom.
Yep, like her message to her son, "learn not to get caught"
Mother father and child with mental health issues and easy access to weapons. Gotta love America.
The ex of the father said that this "mom" is the worst, and that the whole family should get the maximum..
Why are we only blaming the mom?
*Why weren't Timothy Simpkins parents arrested?. Why did he get bail and this suspect gets terrorism charges despite their being no political or religious motive?.*
Feared for their safety?? BS. Any police station would be 100 times safer than an unsecured basement.
Aiding fugitives is also a crime. What a mess.
The fact that these "things" procreated is deeply disturbing.
The only thing I can think about is how they abandoned their kid. After probably raising him this way. I wonder what life was like in that home.
I actually feel bad for this kid. He clearly had a ton of problems these people didn't feel like addressing. And now a bunch of people are dead and hurt. And they don't seem to care that his life is ruined too.
@@carlycrays2831 Agree, this kid didn't stand a chance with these parents. It almost seems like they wanted him to do it.
Exactly I feel bad for everyone except the parents. The parents & the school failed this kid. This kid was crying out for help. What school official allows this kid to go back to class. My son was kicked out of school for 3 days because he came within 3 feet of someone who contracted Covid. He couldn't return until he got a rapid Covid test which came back negative. I was forced to pick him up in the middle of the school day. I'm sorry but the school is also at fault here big time. That child should not have been let back in school until a mental evaluation was done by a doctor.
Apparently he was really spoiled and they gave in to everything he wanted hence the gun
@@PrissyTomboy I have to wonder if maybe they did? Like, maybe they thought they would be embraced by the conservative community or something?
“Feared for their safety” but they didn’t give a damn about the kids their son killed. Disgusting.
They sure as hell didn't Fear for the safety of the MURDERED kids!!!!
How do you know that ?
Tell that to all the parents of gangbangers kids from Chicago who allow their kids to gangbang day/night
@@chrisb9979 don't even try
@@chrisb9979 because there are 4 kids dead from a gun they purchased for their pos maniac son.
Although I live in britain I would like to offer my sincere deepest heartfelt sympathy to the 4 families who lost a loved one .There is a saying you can run but you cannot hide
They are not being charged with being shitty parents. There is actually nothing illegal about that as long as the child’s basic needs are met. What they did which is different than any other domestic terrorist parent is they supplied the weapon. And actively ignored and pushed any of the schools warnings and reports encouraging the violent behavior. For those bringing up parents of gang members. If they start buying weapons and praising illegal activity of minors in gangs encouraging them to commit violent acts yes charge them too.
They want their second amendment rights but they don’t want the responsibilities that come with those rights.
Don't include everyone with these second ammendment rights. These idiots are morons. Don't be dumb! We The People don't represent these fools.
@patrick sapanaro A teacher's job is not to "parent" all their students. The school could have been more vigilant but the parents literally bought their obviously disturbed son a weapon, encouraged violence, and knew what he was going to do before he did it, and chose not to warn anyone or listen to the school who wanted to pull him out of his class.
@@Mr.77776 I bet they are right wing, love our gun type people. So this is about 2nd amd and right to have arms. We need rules. Kyle got away, but these trio wont.
@patrick sapanaro this has everything to do with 2nd amd. When you give away guns, be ready for consequences. Btw, world is full of insane people...
@@Songs-lr4wt Two separate cases. Kyle was defending himself. These fools were negligent. Their son should've never had access to the gun. And if the father gave him the gun that's even worse. Why you comparing these two cases?
“They feared for their safety” I’m sure everyone at the school did as well.
This.
“Fear for their safety” classic line coming from these types.
It's not just that. Who was threatening their safety? Their son wasn't coming back to them dead or alive, so it's not like he could go home after and kill them. Other parents weren't gonna come after them for revenge, they didn't know who the parents were or where they lived. So again, who threatened their safety?
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Point taken overall for sure.
I think they may be referring to the Parents of the Victims who were struck by bullets. Maybe they were 'concerned' about a biblical response (e.g. eye for an eye)(???). The way that's most likely deduced is through the students directly naming the shooter. (That's not at all a criticism if they did.)
To be very sure though I loathe the actions of these parents and think what they did is vile. Shame and guilt are at least two things I hope they feel... and at least some of that towards the obvious ways in which they allowed/ encouraged this outcome and IMO set their shared child on a legal and life course that will alter who he could have been with even one parent who wasn't these fuckheads.
🕊Hana
🕊Madisyn
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🕊Justin
🕊All of the living Victims of this day
I’m so sorry that this happened to these families and their children.
Social media posts by these “parents” showed that the mom was a avid pro-gun person that carried her own gun on her at work and the dad was a massive Trump supporter.
Do with that information what you will…
These people are despicable. They’re enablers to their son(the suspect); and they abandoned him to “escape” their demise. It’s absolutely CRAZY. Prayers and justice to the victims.
when you got no other place to push the fault away...
They are despicable for allowing their son to have or have access to a gun. Who in their right minds do that, let alone the fact that the son was obviously a very troubled individual who probably needed psychiatric care. Parents need to be parents, they are utterly equally guilty I would say as it sounds like this whole thing was preventable.
@@harrybuttworth6765 I just don't think they could handle the kid tbh ... he probably got everything he wanted and this is the product of that . It's totally a parenting fail but I think the kid might of bullied them ... it can be done . Things go missing from your house all the time and the only way to stop it is get the kid what ever he wants .... which leads to stuff like this
These people? What the hell did the school admin let that kid go back ot class? That in and of itself is a major problem in the public school system. Kids get away with violence against their teachers and their peers.
they abandoned him when they gave him that gun....seems like they wanted to get rid of him !
The fact they let children die… they knew and they let their son kill other kids… I’m just… there are no words. Horrible people. Horrible parents. Like someone else said, “every child deserves a parent, but not every parent deserves a child.” This is just despicable…
What if her son stabbed another student in the heart with a pencil?
@@bluelush4168 not the same. there would less victims. a gun kills more people in short time than stabbing people with pencils. probably not even fatal to be stabbed by a pencil😂 parents knew he had a firearm.
@Suq Madeek What its designed to do really isnt the issue, maybe for you gun grabbing liberals it is.Murder is murder, whether you use your hands or a hammer. We should ban hands and hammers too.
How about all the deaths of children in the sun community that we never hear about? Definitely negligent parents.
Buying a 16-year-old a gun is like buying your teenage son a Lamborghini for his first vehicle. Nothing good can come of it.
The school is also complicit. He was clearly a danger to himself and others. The only reasonable response was to call the police and place the child on a 72 hour psych hold to determine where to go from there.
"They are horrible parents." Yep. Bingo.
Trump supporters
@@kelvinmanley6166 we saw Trump supporters getting mowed down and killed in Wisconsin parade last week... Apparently some deranged black lives matter Obama felon rat went off his nut..
@@stevexyz1173 i loved it we need more of him
"Feared for their safety", BULLSHIT. They are every bit as guilty as the monster kid they spawned.
"Feared for their safety" (SCOFF) fuck their safety! What about the safety of the kids they're partially responsible of murdering.
Bull
That’s why not everyone should be allowed to procreate
Why did they buy a gun if they feared for their safety?,,,,,irresponsible and coward ..they do not take any responsibility for their actions….pfff
Finally, its about time parents are held accountable. A school should be a safe place for children to learn.
Often parents see their kids with an optimistic hope.
The school should have told them to take him home. You don’t ask the parents, you tell them.
The teachers did their job, the supervisors failed.
They set their kid up to commit this crime, they facilitated it, they condoned it and then they ran off and abandoned him after he committed the crime and was imprisoned. "Horrible parents" doesn't begin to cover it.
Maybe this will make a few parents think twice before giving their disturbed child a Sigsauer for an early Christmas present.
The problem isn’t that they gifted their kid a gun which is legal by the way, it’s that they were morons with zero responsibility. The laws state you have to have both weapons and ammo stored separately and locked away out of the reach of children. This isn’t the only case where parents are negligent, but this is a very rare time that they prosecute the parents as well and i am so happy to start seeing this happen.
@@donlesley1873 yes, the problem IS that they gifted a 15 year old child with a gun. This is irresponsible parenting at its finest.
Yep.
I’m pro gun, but he was mass producing red flags
RIGHT!
You’ll shoot your eye out kid
Hopefully this all gets figured out. In my opinion , the school is partially just as guilty for not notifying the police and letting him stay on school property. Prayers for all the families that have lost their loved ones. 🙏🏻
About time the parents are held accountable.
I think most disturbing is their actions after the shooting her sending the text telling him not to do it and the father reporting the gun missing. These actions happened over thirty minutes later. After the incident. Very telling.
I think they sent that-after the shooting-thinking it would cover their rears
That’s best case scenario. Worst case they figured being the parents of a school shooter could be profitable… Book deals, movie rights, what have you. I’m a cynic but it seems like they wanted him to do it and that makes me wonder why.
@@waitwhat1029 I hope you're wrong, that is completely disgusting.
@@kbanghart ... yeah, I hope I’m wrong too.
What's even more disturbing is the fact that this happened on school property and therefore the school was responsible for the lives of all those children who got killed. Yet in spite of that and knowing how potentially deadly this kid was because they SAW his violent drawings and read his violent writings and even saw the part where he wrote that he couldn't control his homicidal thoughts and wrote "help me".... in SPITE of all of that the SCHOOL allowed this kid back in the classroom that day when, as "mandated reporters", they could EASILY have called child protective services,the police, had him psychologically evaluated and so forth. They did NONE of those things. And now this brand new prosecutor who's trying to make a name for herself is doing this incredible snow job of trying to prosecute the parents, which is never done in these cases, to distract from the fact that the school is arguably more liable for the deaths of those kids than the parents even, for the aforementioned reasons. I'm not excusing the parents. How could anybody do that? But I hope everybody realizes what's going on here. The prosecutor doesn't want to make enemies with the local school officials so early in her career, so she's completely silent on their role in all this, while focusing solely on the parents. It's a much softer and safer target for her. Even the superintendent of schools in his speech right after the shooting said that they had no idea that this child was violent. That's obviously a bald-faced lie because the meeting with the parents that day was precisely because the teacher had seen his violent drawings and writings. Everybody's trying to protect their jobs, the superintendent of schools, the prosecutor etc. They know how badly the school could get sued. So they're just focusing on the parents. That's a crime in and of itself. The school is ultimately liable because they did NOT search that kids backpack and they let him go back to class. And children died. Yes the parents are idiots. But it didn't happen at their home, it happened at the school. They're legally as well as morally liable because they KNEW, they had all the evidence in front of them that day...and they failed to act. Period.
They want guns. But not accountability, responsibility, liability.
They have a kid. But don't think it necessary to be accountable, responsible, and liable....
This is a PROPER precedent. Kudos to the prosecutor💯💯💪🏻💪🏻
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Is it your stance that parents can also be charged if their kid grabs the keys to the suv when they aren't looking and pulls a Darrell Brooks?
Some of his classmates are saying this was about a bullying issue but either way, what someone does with a gun even a gun that you happen to buy them is their responsibility.
@@jmilez6002 I didn't know SUVs were made to kill people.
Also, if your son describes how he wants to run people over with your SUV, and makes other threats... then yeah, maybe you have some responsibility.
Two less Trump votes.
At this point his own statement, “The thoughts won’t stop. Help me.”, should be taken not as an excuse he tried to reach out to his parents for help to stop him from committing mass murder, but rather as asking them to help him on doing it. They bought him the gun, and knew his intentions.
THIS is one of my sentiments, too. That note/his intrusive thoughts; suffering all around. Sickening.
@@yeslek That's why I blame the parents more than the kid. The way I look at it, he was sick and needed psychological help. He was having intrusive thoughts. The parents were the ADULTS and are 100 percent responsible for him. This whole tragedy could have been prevented if the parents weren't such lazy idiots and actually paid attention to their kid. They had to have known he had mental problems. That doesn't happen overnight, there are always signs.
Prayers and love going out to all the parents of lost loved ones. Beautiful children, heart breaks watching this. These parents are insane, neglectful, ABSOLUTLEY AGEE with all the charges. When we were children, our families had guns, they were disabled, locked up, we were shown the correct way to us the hunting rifles, showed us everything to due with safety. We were never allowed to touch them until we were out in the fields or woods hunting, then they were placed back into box disabled again before leaving our hunting sites. What's happening these days is insane & carelessness, especially from these neglectful parents. Again, condolences to all families in this very difficult time of great sadness. Thinking of you all, may god bless.
I absolutely adore this prosecutor. She’s making history.
You're right! This needs to be the standard for school shooters families. Because this shouldn't be a thing !
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If these parents are guilty of involuntary manslaughter, the judge who released Derrick Brooks should be charged with involuntary manslaughter.
The school let the kid stay on campus after understanding his mindset. Are they also complicit?
I’m so sorry for the family who lost children my sincere prayers are for you
Why aren't school officials being held responsible? They let him go back go class after talking to him about threats?
“LOL I’m not mad at you, you have to learn not to get caught.” -Jen Crumbley
this will be the most damning piece of evidence...mark my words
Real good role model. 👏
This needs to happen more often. The parents usually see these signs ahead of time
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Would love to know why they where arrested and the evidence of it. But I understand how a left wing idiot thinks that a problem needs to be blamed on others, and not the person that did the action.
And the teachers?
Perhaps your about these parents but I have a hard time believing that most parents actually see or know or suspect anything in most cases. This is only ONE of those of potential cases and your taking this for what it's worth from CNN which means it's probably not very accurate at all. CNN is all over this one after they watched there lies crumble in the Rittenhouse exoneration so of course they find this case and jump all over it like a bitch in heat.
Don't waste your time with CNN for news because your not getting anything near the truth watching these idiots.
I agree!
“Lol…I’m not mad…you just need to learn to not get caught”.
That’s the “ back and forth” between the sheriff and the prosecutor?? Does anyone know what he is referring to?
They had so many chances, to stop the shooting. 😢
Hey, Max...ur response cud b used a sloogan..."Stop the shooting".
The school to.
Agreed. Can’t believe the school let him back.
Let's just say what this is.... the parents in my opinion (in some weird psychotic way) WANTED their son to do this. Why, I have no clue, maybe a bully, I don't know, but some odd reason, they took enjoyment of the possibility of their son actually shooting up the school. I believe the parents are psychotic and was on the verge of committing suicide together at some point. Freakin weird individuals in this world.
Yeah I'm wondering if they joked about it at home around their kid, wishing they can shoot up others. That or they are very in denial about what their son is capable of.
Sick ! But you’re right . I think they knew of his issues and intentions which is why the dad purchased the gun for him. Ignoring calls from the school about the online search for ammo yet texting him laughing about it …we may never know the reason , but they definitely wanted him to do it .
Not improbable!!🤔
Agreed. The text messages seem like some weird form of encouragement.
Reminds me of that girl who encouraged her boyfriend to commit suicide a few years back.
I believe they were the cause of his psychological issues
Ethan: Displays all warning signs of mental health issues, murders 4 people, injures 7 and gets thrown in jail, is advised he will be tried as an adult, at 15 years of age.
Parents: Lawyer up… and *flee* … leave _child_ in jail… afraid, confused, mentally ill and clearly homicidal…
Also parents: sob like 15 year olds at arraignments.
The rest of the world: Well…
If only the “authorities” or US in general put as much effort into or cared THIS MUCH about actually preventing these goddamned things in the first place🤔🤷🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️😡
Yes but let's overturn Roe versus Wade and force more parents to have children that they are not intellectually, emotionally, or financially equipped to raise.
Agree with that 💯
yes this aspect is surely right (sometimes, but that s enough)
exactly, bc america isn't pro life, they're pro BIRTH
and allow the nation to continue being awash with guns, so those kids can be slaughtered in their teens....'Murica
@@thesummerland6165 they are pro birth because they want more consumers, more low paid workers, more debtors, and more soldiers for war.
I'd be all for overturning it...... as long as we make invitro & everything else "unnatural " illegal too.
If you can't get pregnant then you gotta adopt an American kid.
If you do get pregnant, ya gotta be married, for life,.... it wouldn't even be a choice.... the dna tests will decide who is automatically married.
Of course this could never happen, that would keep too many families together
Not only did the parents let their son go back to class after learning about his intent, the SCHOOL OFFICIALS let him go too! To top it off no one searched his backpack!
well said
Has anyone definitively said that the school officials knew the kid had access to an unsecured weapon? Were they supposed to be monitoring his social media, or that of his parents? As far as I’ve heard, no one reported any of this to any authorities, school or otherwise.
I hope gun nut parents will from now on be held responsible for their kids' murders.
Man they are so fired
@@zigzag4462 "Has anyone definitively said that the school officials knew the kid had access to an unsecured weapon?" I didn't see that they knew but that's one of the first things that is usually asked; do you have a weapon at home? No, it's right here in my backpack.
When does she start charging parents of gang members NEVER
The parents failed Ethan because they never tried to get him help when he started to show signs that there was something wrong.
It's about time parents are held accountable for their kid's actions, especially in a case where they are absolutely complicit.
How do you know?
Complicit ONLY
How are they complicit?
im startng to realize its more the parents fault than the kids fault in this case
@@linkjourney422 If you can’t figure that out after listening to the evidence already provided (separate video), you have a serious critical thinking problem.
I love the claim that the parents "feared for their lives" yet didn't all those defenseless, innocent CHILDREN hiding & being MURDERED by their son experience REAL fear, not possible. I imagine those students "feared for their lives" & actually FOUR did lose their lives!!
Hello, how are you doing Eunice?
Everyone evolved in helping the parents hide and get away needs and should suffer some consequences and the charges against the parents are are rightfully so
Filing charges against the parents may be the future for responses to these school shootings.
So proud of the way the officials in my state are handling this case. Finally some accountability. I hope this will help change things for our kids and figure out a way to keep them safe. The parents didn't feel safe? What about the helpless school children that were being hunted and murdered by their murderous son?
Amen
what they're doing is an overreach in power. You cant convict a child as an adult AND hold the parents responsible at the same time. it's one or the other
@@animal1nstinct394 Is that really what you’re going with? What you’re saying is nonsensical.
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The court can charge whoever they see fit.
And these people are obviously "fit" to prosecute.
@@animal1nstinct394 Wrong. Federal law is crystal clear--an adult who sells or gifts a handgun to anyone under age 18 commits a crime, and the sentence is increased if they did it with knowledge that the minor had any intent to commit a crime. If you commit a crime that abets murder, then you are guilty of involuntary manslaughter per Michigan case law. The MI state law that allows a minor to "possess" a handgun for target practice or other legal activity under supervision of an adult doesn't mean they could gift the gun to the shooter; it only means that the minor could be in possession of the gun during a permitted activity. That is clear because MI law states with respect to pistols (the state uses that term rather than handgun) that “Purchaser” means a person who receives a pistol from another person by purchase or gift, and “Seller” means a person who sells or gives a pistol to another person. Sellers of handguns are not allowed to provide them to minors. There is no exemption for parents to gift handguns to minors as that would be in violation of federal law.
Am I to understand that the parents, after buying their son the murder weapon, was running away? To save their own ass, were they turning their banks on their son? What a despicable act.
Your understanding is spot on.
Yep! . . . my guess is - they're going after that "Parents of the Year" title.
Yup what a horrible parents they should be in jail for life
They turned their back on him the moment they ignored the drawing that led the school to call the parents in the first place. That's compounded by the fact that they knew he had the means (firearm) to carry out such a despicable attack. They all deserve everything that's coming to them.
George: YES, these, in name only, parents were fleeing. I believe, because they had withdrawn $ 4,000 Dollars in CASH and were near an International Airport in Detroit, they probably were headed to Canada. As to YOUR point about these scum, abandoning their son; truly, from the facts of their cruel neglect in involving him with ill-legal guns; they had always deserted Him ! Now these disgusting, selfish pigs, are EACH facing 60 Years in Prison, if CONVICTED ! Frankly, I think that IS TOO LIGHT a sentence for two fiends who treated their child's health, safety and sanity as IF it was a JOKE ! IF THERE WAS TRUE Justice, these despicable, EVIL FIENDS WOULD spend the rest of their worthless lives in Prison ! !
They were irresponsible in getting him a gun. And even if it’s legal to get your child a gun where you live take the gun away once you see red flags. They should have asked him where is the gun. If he said home then the parents should have did a body search while at the school. They should have emptied his backpack. They should have emptied his locker. Wherever your child says the gun is make sure you go and retrieve it never allowing that child to touch that or any other gun again. It’s EXTREMELY SHOCKING that there’s irresponsible parents like this.
If my child did something this terrible; getting away. I would feel like a complete failure and would not leave my child to face the consequences on his own.
If they feared for their safety, why didn't they turn themselves him?
Why couldn't their attorney find them?
_EXAAAAACTLY!_
Do agree, the line of crap from the lawyer not knowing about the court proceedings at 4pm yesterday, after we heard the police and prosecutor were on the phone constantly with the lawyers and were told they were turning themselves in. Its breathtaking how stupid some people are.
@@michaelkeudel8770
I just watched the hearing and the prosecutor's office wouldn't call them back or tell them... I didn't know that at the time of this video. If you haven't watched it, let me know and I'll send you the link.
I still think they are accountable, but... I do think the prosecutor's office wasn't being honest.
@@goose7574 sorry, I don't buy the lawyers changed story. And the parents knew they were supposed to turn themselves in and the police and FBI were looking for them, they made no effort to turn themselves in. They made a bad problem worse for themselves.
The excuse will be 'got lost on the way', 'google maps didn't work right', they accidentally withdrew thousands of dollars and turned off the cell phones.
@Mot Goaiu
Not sure what the link is for, but I don't recommend that ppl click on in, in case it's a "bad link".
If ppl want to watch the arraignment, they can go to the Washington Post's YT channel to watch it.
They hid “for safety” they should’ve used SAFETY precautions when raising a child with mental instabilities, but instead bought them a gun for Christmas. So horrible…kids are now dead 😭😭😭
Shows you what type of people they are….they planned on letting him take the entire fall on his own…. Smdh 🤦🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️
I actually blame the parents more than the kid. He's a child, with obvious mental problems, and they KNEW it. Yet they never did anything to get him psychiatric treatment. Yes what the kid did was evil, but the parents were the ADULTS and are 100 percent responsible for him. They had to have known he had problems. Mental problems that severe don't happen overnight. There are always signs. Besides, who the hell gives a 15 year old kid a handgun?!
Wrong emojis 😐 those are laughing crying emojis
What about the Tx and Tn school shootings this past month? Both by black kids why is cnn silent on those??
Tx and Tn school shootings this past month? Crickets from cnn and people like you
condolences to all family and friends of those kids who sacrificed themselfs for theyr mates life
The parents were busy... Duh , beer doesn't drink itself
It's about freaking time the parents are held responsible! I've been saying they should do that for years.
But this isn't even a year old
@@TKdrizzle Martha is trying to say that she's been making this point b4. As in from previous cases
@@TKdrizzle it’s not the first time kids used parents guns to kill people
Most of the problem with that is the fact that most shooters are adults who bought their guns legally. You cannot hold a parent liable for the actions of an adult child. However, you could probably try, and the effort of trying to tie these liabilites on to others will definitely impact how people who know a disturbed person take serious these issues and start to act on behalf of themselves, if not the community (that they don't care about).
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There are more of these kind of American parents than most Americans realized. I used to work as an interpreter for and as assistant to social workers in the Pacific Northwest area, and I encountered these kind of parents on a regular bases in the rural area. I wouldn't be surprise if these parents are actually proud of what their son did.
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Yeah, that guy who drove into that parade was from a rural area wasn’t he! If there was a gun problem in the rural areas you’d know it. People have been killing people since the beginning of time. It’s irresponsible and ignorant to blame objects and location for the act of murder.
@@12floz67 The guy who drove into the crowd wasn't politically motivated. He was an abuser who wanted to hurt people.
Your kid. Your gun. Your responsibility.
This kid has brought a lot of sadness in the lives of the victims families and his own family 🤦♂️
The Crumbleys maintain they were not hiding out or evading law enforcement. Then why did they both turn their cell phones off?
And make a $4000 cash withdrawal from an ATM and then go to a warehouse a few miles from the Canadian border?
They thought they were being smart trying to stay one step ahead of the game….. but you can’t run or hide from karma….. you took this kid with you to the gun store sent ill mannered texts about learning how to not get caught….. All the years of ignoring this kid and bad ass parenting led to this situation… there needs to be changes within the school system as well… he should never have been allowed to leave the principals office or wherever he was being held… CPS should’ve been notified and the situation explained….. there are so many woulda, coulda, shoulda’s being tossed around but the world is left with this type of chaos and it will continue until accountability is placed at the forefront……🤦🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️
@@lizettewanzer8650 Of course… all to leave this damaged kid to take the blame for their poor ass parenting skills…..
It’s a tempurpedic mattress on the floor. Not an air mattress but a whole memory foam
Leaving their child behind just tells you what kinda parents they are...
IKR? Planning an escape to Canada and leaving the kid behind? How are you going to visit and support him in jail from Canada??
That's called late abortion.
@@tulw2728 Should’ve been an early one. Lol
@@lizettewanzer8650 they had no plans on doing so…. They were just going to let him continue to fall like they’ve always done…….
Love your channel, but whomever is doing your captions needs to be fixed/replace. Please fix it. Hard of hearing and deaf can’t follow your videos at this point. Otherwise keep up the good work!
Parents need to be held accountable when giving a child a gun and know their child is unraveling
During the Prosecutor's clip, I asked why was the kid's backpack not searched during the parents and kid meeting at the school meeting. I then remembered it would be an illegal search without a warrant. However, if the parents were fearful or really concerned of what was said to them in that meet, THEY as parents should have searched the backpack and the tragedy would had been avoided.
They could have given permission to search, as well.
Let’s hope that law changes now……if a school official suspects that something is wrong, they should be allowed to search a students locker, backpack, purse, etc….had someone done this, it would have never happened….
You're right: the state cannot search without probable cause or consent to search. We can be sure that even if the school had asked to search the pack, the parents would have refused. Whether probable cause existed at that point is another debate, but the police were never brought in on these threats. Any cop would have asked the parents and/or the kid: where is that gun now/do you have any weapons with you now?
Schools do NOT need a search warrant to search property on school grounds!
Explain the process of a school receiving a search warrant. 🤔