@@Barnabas555 easy Joseph smith, that’s more than an ex, they were married at one point and had a kid. She would definitely know more about his character than most people lol
@@Barnabas555 Well you do realize the police probably came to her and asked her questions about the whereabouts of her ex husband. She's a connection to him.
I mean, I don't deny what she says, but obviously this woman has to let the past go and move on with her life. So hopefully her son turning 18 is like a clean slate without him in it, the dad. With that resentment, that shit will end up infecting you....more so than covid would. 😉
That is deep. You are 100% correct. This is so sad. These parents did nothing to help him. It is so disturbing. As a mother my heart goes out to all 4 Families. Also as a mother I do not understand how you ignore the warning signs. Prayers are with anyone who is suffering. 🕯🤍 🕯🤍🕯🤍🕯🤍
Yesterday my wife went on a rant about this very issue. We need a license to do our jobs, to drive a vehicle, to shoot a deer, to get married...but any a$$hole can make a baby.
Here, here I agree 100% it is about time parents are held accountable for the shitty job they are doing in raising a child. REMEMBER hate is LEARNED no one is born hating anyone the parents MUST help bring that hate out, and if they do they must PAY THE PRICE!
In this case it's only because they provided the gun and refused to get him help when the school warned them. In most school shooter cases they either bought the gum themselves because they're 18 or they stole it from a family member.
If you’ve never been forced by a shit judge to have to co-parent with a piece of shit ex, then you have no right to comment. It is hell. Period. You are literally holding your breath until the kid turns 18, until you are free of them. I can completely understand how she feels.
@@chevtrukman aren't you assuming she is good? Is it not more likely that she is also a terrible human being as is her ex? You may see yourself as "good" parent and your ex as terrible but do not project yourself onto others.
If my child had been killed by someone whose parents had been warned by the school several times that he was mentally unstable, who refused to take him home to deal with the issues, and on top of all that bought him a high-powered weapon for Christmas, I would be seething with rage. This was so utterly, completely, tragically avoidable. This is the definition of negligence. It may even rise beyond negligence and into contributing to the delinquency.
👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽 This is what I’ve been saying about these parents as well as Kyle Rittenhouse’s mother and friends father. Enough is enough with this crap! Parents need to be charged whenever they contribute to the delinquency of a minor. Especially when someone dies and it was unnecessary and avoidable
@@IGTheCrown except, Einstein, Rittenhouse didn’t commit a crime. He had just as much a right to be out there that night and just as much a right to not be molested by the likes of Jacob Rosenbaum.
@@stephenjohnson9632 Aw do you feel better than me because you attempted to be insulting? You realize there is a difference between the crime of contributing to the delinquency of a minor and committing murder. There is also a biological difference between a mother, a friend of a father and a child? So thank you for the attempt to insult me by calling me Einstein lol. It’s a compliment coming from someone who struggles with reading and comprehension. I can tutor you if you’d like
The real joke is that they only ordered him to pay 67$ a week for a child while he was making 6 figures. I’ve heard of people working 15$ an hour who have to pay more than that. Yet he still didn’t pay it.
You'll cry when you find out how many kids have guns... For 2 weeks (November 15-30), how many fell prey to to children with high powered semi automatic guns?
@@Arthurian. Many young people enjoy shooting firearms, thats not a bad thing. .000001% ever do anything like this, so please dispense with the anti gun nonsense.
The father did not know that the gun was missing out of the drawer when he got back from the school he looked and the one was gone he then text his son pleaded with him not to do it and then he called the law it was to late.
One more thing I'd like to point out to some of the people making critical comments about the ex-wife...she's not wanted for manslaughter, nor did she do a runner from the police.
But is she saying anything of actual relevance? If not, how do you expect someone to take her opinion on any alleged crime seriously? Or, why should they? Don’t get me wrong, not being wanted for involuntary manslaughter or evading is a great start, but one’s own criminal record history rarely has any real standing when stating an opinion on someone else’s.
@@charlieduvall6463 I would assume he had some type of custody agreement with his ex, which is why his other child was staying with him in the first place. Based off of how the mother spoke about him, I doubt she would’ve agreed to any kind of custody agreement based off of her judgment alone. I could be wrong about this, as it is just an assumption, but the courts must not think his behavior as a father is all that appalling as the mother makes it out to be, otherwise he probably wouldn’t have any type of custody to begin with. Which could make this a first time offense of neglect for him, which, I would think, would help in his case against the involuntary manslaughter charges. Also, is his behavior as a father towards his first son actually relevant towards his other, which he had full custody of? Does their relationship status matter as much? This isn’t a condescending question; I’m genuinely curious. Do you have some type of legal training or a current or former student in legal work? I know legal questions generally aren’t something you can just Google, as there’s usually more exceptions to a case than one may expect, which is why I ask them.
I believe this woman is speaking the truth, just that statement about her son turning that magical18, and now would be rid of the bad parent speaks volumes for all of us divorced parents that felt that very same way about our own children...she's being truthful in my opinion
I know how she feels. My son turned 18 recently and I was sooooo freaking happy to NOT have to ever deal with his father again. It was 18 years of hell.
Same experience, word for word, for one of my coworkers. It appears to me these types of situations are very common. I think women need to become much more selective about whom we marry.
This might not be true. My parents are divorced and I wouldn't change it. My "dad" is a mental abusive piece of shit and I would not be in the place I am in now if it wasn't for my mom divorcing him. Every time I saw him he would do everything in his power to tell me I am worthless, fat, ugly, clumsy among many other things. Where my mom in many ways is my best friend and extremely close, it's been like that since I was a kid.
I can totally relate to this woman’s story. My son has a similar dad and step mom. Spends a fortune on fancy cars and vacations… but the tiny bit of child support for my son is a problem. And similarly, she controls everything so that means my son gets the shaft and her son gets everything. It’s sad because my son loves to spend time with his dad and half brother, but his step mom is so mean to him, he’s not comfortable going over there. I wish his dad had some balls!
Thank GOD Ellie has a mom with a conscious, morals and cares! THANK GOD Ellie was not there. He could have been charged also. Wow, being a mom of 5 who ran from her abusive 20 year marriage. I know first hand what $67 means in caring for kids at less then the basics. This mother deserves a hug and a high five from all of us moms esp single moms WHO DO IT RIGHT!
They gave Ethan everything except the help he needed.Tragic story. What parent in their right mind would purchase a gun for a minor and a troubled one at that. My condolences to the victims and all the students who were traumatized that day.
@shontemartinez I also thought how tragic for that 1 teacher who reported him to the office that day. The office just blew that teachers concern off and sent him back to class. She or he will also have PTSD for life. They will question should they report another child? Will the next child they report shoot them on the way to the office? They must be questioning how they didn't themselves get shot for reporting the kid! Yes that teacher, the admin who sent him back to class to begin a killing spree and student there and at all other schools are always traumatized when this happens again. Glad my youngest is graduated now. I remember the toll it would take on him and all his friends when these shootings would happen.
The gun was purchased for him Christmas so I'm assuming it was last year we don't know if the parents knew he had problems until the school called them in & if they did then it's neglect they're guilty of not getting him help.
Gun was purchased last Friday (black Friday) as a gift for this Christmas. I am pretty sure now based on the evidence coming out that the parents had some idea that their son had issues and was unstable. Parents brushing off the school officials concerns about the disturbing actions and notes like they were quite accustomed to their sons state of mind and didn't care. Not to mention that tell tale text the mother sent the boy the day of the shooting. "Don't do it". Implying she may have known what he was thinking of doing or done. Why his parents thought giving him a gun in with his mental state was a good idea, is just ludicrous. Just like the Connecticut shooter. Mom got her emotionally unstable son a rifle. He turned it on kids at an elementary school. Also ended up killing his Mother with the same gun. I guess the Crumbley's got off lucky their son didn't go full circle.
Awful school administration, too. School: "Your son is writing stuff about shooting and killing. He needs help." Parents: "No, he doesn't." School: "Okay, whatever, you're right. Ethan, you can go back to class now."
Yea blame the school admin for not parenting other people children. The parents refused to take the kid out of school. Not the schools fault its the fault of the parents and morons like you placing blame on everyone but the idiots that raised him.
School should be also responsible! He should be out from school that same day but no school was protecting shooter and feeling bad for him instead of taking a serious action!
@@Dopeamiine I guess you're still learning the English language, but here's a tip: go look up the word "too" in the dictionary. But anyway, it's absolutely school's responsibility to remove him from the school, dumbass. They are totally at fault for just shrugging their shoulders and ignoring terroristic threats. They are literally REQUIRED BY LAW to remove such a person, student or not, and notify law enforcement. They are in charge of the school, and when terroristic threats are being made, THEY need to take action for the school that THEY are running. Literally no one agrees with you that the school should've been all "whatever, no big deal" about it. The fact that you think that makes you a dangerous person.
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@@Dopeamiine You're not a normal person. Your argument is that schools should allow kids to make terroristic threats and not call the police. We have laws in this country.
If ever there was a time when parents of a murderous child should be held legally and criminally responsible for their kid's actions, THIS is such a time.
You won't be feeling that way when it becomes the norm and then your son goes through hard times and commits a crime and they throw you in jail. You're calling for the end to innocent until proven guilty? Now we just get thrown in jail for what our family members do?
@@tylerbodie3343 What about the kids who bullied him every day at school? Are they responsible for murder too? So...maybe one of the murder victims cause his own murder by being a bully. Should they be charged?
Bullying has always existed, social media made it a nightmare. My parents taught me to ignore the bullies and have confidence in myself. It worked. The school as well as the mom knew this kid was a danger that day and shoved it under the rug. Having spent some time in a public school in the past 3 years it is terrifying the window of our public school system and parenting. A recipe for disaster for the children swept under the rug and the rest who happen to be around when they finally lose it. This boy had problems, knew it, parents BOUGHT him a gun of his own. The school knew it, what part is hard to comprehend? So many teachers hands are tied between administrators needed the money and parents who should not be called parents. The next profession to have shortages.
I totally agree about those idiots being held accountable. However I am still so angry with the school. This was 100% preventable!!! My heart goes out to those family members who will never have the same holiday season ever again
No one killed anyone or shot up that school but that boy. He planned it out on his own and made his own decisions. Almost everyone in prison has shitty parents and went to subpar schools, but most aren't mass murderers or terrorists, and you people cry for none of them. You defend a boy who takes a gun to threaten and shoot protesters and ends up killing people trying to stop him. This kid's crimes are at the top of the list of the worst, and dummies want to blame everyone but him.
i HOPE that mother realizes now what a blessing it was for her own son to not be close to his father. what she probably thought of as painful and unfair for so many years, now she can see the universe was taking care of her and her boy! Lucky lady!! :)
@@Freespiritedqueen yes , me too . He was an ex cop sociopath, narcissistic psycho . My daughter doesn’t talk to him and my son just wanted a father . He will pay the price as he is 78 and I give him 4 years to live . I have told him and told him to get right with God . Hell is Real
@@kathyr.8135 COP.....say no more😠 lol!! Love hearing stories like this. A happy ending😍 for you and your children. It disturbs me that we went or are going through this..the law will change concerning these cases. TRUST!
James and Jennifer created this monster, they must be held accountable for the actions of their son, actions they set into place buying a 15 year old a powerful weapon for Christmas. Because of their lazy, spoil him rotten parenting style four families will never celebrate Christmas with their child ever again. I hope they’re prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law and their awful son too.
@ Chronic Payne: A 9 mm pistol isn’t that powerful. Powerful yes when compared to a .22, .25 or .32 caliber. But most calibers are more powerful. Take for instance .38, .40, .45, 10mm, .357 magnum, .44 magnum and the .500 calibers. Even the .223 pistols, all more powerful. Too many to list. What sets the 9mm apart is it has moderate power, lower recoil and high capacity magazines. That’s why the 9mm has such a popularity. But that kid could have killed as many or more with a .22 pistol. It’s all about shot placement, hitting the vital areas. Any caliber will kill if used properly. Something else to consider is ammo used. Ballistic tipped and hollow points are far more lethal than fmj. The biggest mistake is buying a lunatic any kind of weapon. Those parents had to know their son was mentally unstable. Second mistake was not keeping the weapon locked up. Youth’s can be law abiding fire arms owning citizens under the right tutelage. It all starts at home with the parents. Started my sons off with a BB gun at about 6 years old. Then a pellet gun, then a .410 shotgun, then a .22 rifle. Then moved up to deer hunting caliber. They were under adult supervision when using any type of weapon, gun safety stressed at all time. Preached accountability and responsibility of ownership. Had gun safety courses to get hunting license. Above all, guns, even the lowly BB gun was locked up when not in use. Kids should not have free reign with weapons.
@@djmerritt9338: No, apparently not. It’s federal law that you have to be 21 to buy a handgun thru an ffl. But in the state of Alabama you can get a concealed carry permit at age 18. Go figure!
@@djmerritt9338 it is illegal for someone under 21 to buy/own a handgun but you can use a handgun or any rifle at the gun range or on private property where it is safe to shoot. I started shooting bb guns in cub/boy scouts when I was in 1st grade so about 6 yrs old, prior to shooting we're taught simple things like point it down/away from all people, make sure saftey is on, never look down the barrel, unless your firing don't put your finger on the trigger, squeeze don't pull the trigger, etc. Guns are not scary, it becomes really scary when you someone who never learned these things possesses/buys a gun, like in the Rittenhouse trial when the prosecutior pointed the gun at the courtroom/jury w/his finger on the trigger
The parents went out and hired their own attorneys while leaving their son without any other choice but to ask for a public defender. That alone says a lot about them.
The money they took out of the bank was from Ethan's account- a total of $4k. They used that and sold their house for their attorneys. 1 independant lawyer and 1 from Lehman Bros.
If you have nothing to hide and have nothing to do but being related.....uhm yeah-she can confirm what everyone thinks! When is you kid going to act out his terrorism so we are ready?
yeah but her son is over 18. he knows what is happening probably even more than her. he knows it's his f ather. everyone around him already knows it's his father. so maybe speaking out against them helps them mentally. but you could be right. who knows
She dug her grave now swim in it. She wanted her son to have the best genetics and now he does. He's 6'3 a natural alpha he'll be fine if he was 5'4 or 5'5 then yeah that sucks for him! but nah no sympathy for her and him everyone got what they wanted in this deal. Stop complaining.
My son is 240plus pounds do u know how much $67 a week ($268) a month goes to feeding someone 240 pounds lmfaoooo sounds like a personal problem and that mother should spend the 268$ a month to do some home cooked meals instead of buying her son fast food none stop and letting him become 240pounds while only just turning 18 smhhhhhh that dude probably going to be a easily over 300 pounds by the age of 25 if he don’t change his eating habits and stop drinking 2 liters of soda none stop
@@mdk0516 The school could have done better, but they aren't the child's parents. If they took over the parental role, parents would be screaming about it.
Regardless of what he did or didn't do in this case. I don't trust a bitter ex's opinion of their former significant other for shit. That goes for any guy or girl I know. There isn't a more emotionally driven and biased opinion you could have of a human being. Than towards an ex that things ended ugly with. Whenever I hear someone telling me how big of a piece of shit their ex is. I just nod my head and awkwardly look around. While I occasionally make just enough eye contact to convince them I'm listening.
I got laid off for 3 weeks when Corona virus started to spread in 2020 and I missed my payment for the first time in 12 years and right away I started getting letters from the state. How do some people go for years without paying?
I saw some of the videos on the father’s youtube channel, of a young Ethan like 10 years old. He seemed normal. What changed in 5 years? If your outgoing child becomes withdrawn, wears black all the time, and gets caught with a sketch of a shooting… it’s time to get him help and get him out of school! The parents should have taken all of those signs as warnings to get their son help, or at least get him home schooled. I fully believe some kids are too emotionally weak to handle high school and social media. They need to grow up a little and learn to stop giving a damn what people think. The best way to do that is home schooling. Instead the parents are too inconvenienced to leave their low wage jobs and take their son home that day. Act like parents! This tragedy could have been prevented.
That son who was abandoned by Ethan Crumbley had a blessing in disguise. He’s now not in prison for committing acts of violence towards others. And that had everything to do with his mother’s raising of him. Hats off
154 people gave this a thumbs up?? Says a lot about reading comprehension. It says Ethan Crumbley's FATHER. NOT Ethan Crumbley. Ethan doesnt even have kids. 🤦♀️
@@ericlajoie8028 I’m pretty sure you guys can see through the typo and understand the point they are making. The ex wife and son avoided a life of abuse and potential life in jail
@@michellevibonese5673 OP said verbatim "that son who was abandoned by Ethan Crumbley" implying he has a son. Says even more about your reading comprehension.
When I saw pictures of Ethan's parents, I was struck with how much both their appearances and behaviours were reminiscent of Brian Laundrie's parents. There are exceptions to this rule, but I think in general, monstrous parents can raise monsters.
@@Angel-tw3ko they absolutely knew what happened 🙄He came home from a cross-country road trip without Gabby in her vehicle....they're either crackheads, severely mentally impaired, or they were complicit in covering up the crime. It's as simple as that.
In another story they showed a text from Jennifer to her son, Ethan, after he got in trouble at school for searching for bullets to buy online. The text said that Ethan was not in trouble with her but just don't get caught next time. Great parenting there, Jenn....
Had a neighbor several years ago with a tween son who was a terror around here. Can do what every he wanted with impunity. Even curse is parents out .... in public and infront of his friends. Mother seemed like she half heartedly tried to reign him in. But the father just kept letting it pass. Rewarding him with everything from an expensive RC cars to a full quad ATV that he would ride up and down the side walks. One day in his mid teens he just got so out of hand, threatening his family one night that they had to call the police and swat to calm him down and take him in. Probably his first spanking in his life and it had to be by the police. Was back the next day though. Thankfully, he never got to the point of this Crumbley kid.
I'll always wonder why they thought it was a good idea to buy him a gun 🤷 May the souls of those children rest in peace and their loved ones be comforted 🙏
I know how this woman has been through cause I had the same experience when I had to deal with my ex-husband about my son’s child support and the father’s visitation for almost 10 years. I was so excited and crying the day that my son turned 18 years old. I celebrated myself for not having to deal with that horrible man ever again !!!!
Just like this story. Men that don't take care of their kids. Never live a blessed life. That goes both ways. I don't care who u r or what you have. God gives us children. He expects us to care for them. Praying for all of the Mothers who are dealing with this.
@@karenscales5077 USA literally hates women, from my experiences I got Fooked by court, welfare, Child support. Tax office and his lawyers. All these years he been able to stash cash and pay for lawyers,all to keep a stable safe place over my kids head and I am damn sure his retirement funds are all triple any of ours. Enough ranting just waiting for my kid to go to university then mummy going home to UK 🇬🇧.
@@karencarpenter5845 yea if you look at the family court system in America, statics will show you that it favors women more than men. So your first sentence is wrong.
Her first thoughts were about her son being safe. Ethan's dad's first thoughts were to race home to see if the gun was there because he knew Ethan was the shooter. Ethan's That mom texted him "not to do it" tells you the difference between the parents. Then he and his wife ran ran instead of looking after their son when they should have been with him. Just looking at Ethan, from even old school photos, you can see there is something wrong. Ethan's teachers tried to warn the administration, the administration contacted the parents and told them he needs to go home and get into counseling ASAP. The parents response was no and the administration accepted that instead of going with their instincts and suspending him. The mom in this interview seems like she knew what Ethan and his parents are like. It is a good thing her son was home with her instead of his father's home. Ethan made his decision, but it sounds like no one except the teachers tried to really get him help. When a teacher has concerns about something like this and you see some evidence, then you had better listen to the teacher.
Let's hope that the actions of the school administration (and the possible legal, financial and professional consequences) may force changes that would prevent a repeat (at least to a significant degree) of something like this.
Yes schools are absolutely responsible for making sure every child in their school is safe and then gets home safe, and in this they failed. They are absolutely responsible for make sure bullying and questionable behaviours do not happen inside schools. They should have flagged him, possibly referred him to children’s services and suspended him. But they are not responsible for what happens with children outside of their care, or what led Ethan do what he did. That responsibility belongs on the parents. Parents don’t want teacher’s having to much control, nor should they because they are teacher not parents, but you can’t also say in the same breath that you believe teachers should be held responsible for every single thing that goes wrong with a child’s upbringing. Parents need to step up, take responsibility for their kids and make sure they are helping their kids. I’m speaking as a parent. As a parent it is my decisions and responsibility to make sure my children get the help they need, whether academically or otherwise. I am responsible for marking decisions about what school they go to and I am also responsible for their health care. If parents aren’t doing this then they are failing terribly in their duties as a parent.
@@jaybru5399 The crumblies are guilty as hell. They should have been charged and should be found guilty as charged. They knew their son had issues and they bought him a gun . His mother told him that he should not have gotten caught, what kind of parent is that? A guilty one.
It’s way past time that parents should be held accountable for their children’s actions. The actual problem is not being truly addressed , tho, just the immediate problem is being recognized. The actual problem is dysfunctional adults having and bringing up dysfunctional children.
Wow! She’s very lucky her son left that hell hole. Hopefully he didn’t pick up his father’s horrible characteristics. I hope he doesn’t think on them ever again and moves on with his life to be a model citizen and dad some day. His mother should be grateful she didn’t stay in the relationship and just chalk it all up to karma. Whatever you sow, so shall you reap.
Dam straight, going through it right now with father of one child like this woman and went through with another father of my son years ago. NEVER AGAIN! This is my last child and he took her from me as well. Monsters, so glad for that dude's karma activated. Can't wait for mine to get his karma soon.
She was in a relationship long enough to have a child with him....sans the marriage commitment. It seems to me that she has a problem with choosing men.
@@sagatuppercut2960 My picker was off twice. I gave up and decided it’s best for me to be single and free. Relationships are like gambling. You go to the casinos with all the lights, bells and whistles pick a machine that you think would have a big payout, only to get every penny taken and you lose. I just can’t take that chance again. I’d rather not have to deal with the BS and deception again. I’m not willing to except the better and worse. They can kiss my ass and hop a train to hell.
@@Freespiritedqueen It's never good to have children with multiple men. It's bad for the children and parents. If you lost custody of your daughter, to her father, can't you sort it out in court?
@@lovelybyfar think about this more a minute. She was talking about how terrible a person the father was. But she was the one who chose to have a child with this susposed terrible man. So what does it say about her and her life choices ? It is sort of like the pot calling the kettle black.
@@pedalingthru2719 Im wondering how he got away with just paying $67.00 a week child support if he has a 6 figure income, unless shes counting his wife's income too? That might be something else they need to look in to?
Along with Brian Laundrie, we can see the trend of these two parents. Both most likely spoiled these boys, and did not set boundaries for how they should treat people and manage their anger. These parents have issues of their own and should not have kids in the first place
@@PD-we8vf Not abortion, BIRTH CONTROL. There IS a difference. And on that order, it's damn hard for women to get tubal ligations. And males aren't encouraging each other to get vasectomies, despite how many children ARE abandoned by the fathers to all kinds of social pathology. Birth control, and shifting the culture's attitude about it, would solve several problems all at once. If it was a patriotic thing, to NOT have children you don't want, and society can't afford, yes, the world WOULD be better off. Cheering, clapping for and demanding, if not REQUIRING males and females have full access to every means of birth control, is what we're talking about. And encouraging people to have the introspection to realize they won't be good parents. Understand now?
@@cheryldurham3560 oh I missed that I guess thanks for the info. No RESPONSIBLE PARENT who pays attention and their child acted like this one would buy him any weapons and they'd make sure he didn't have access to theirs but obviously these 2 people are just as looney as their child.
It's legal to gift a firearm to a minor. The law states that anyone under 21 years old has to be accompanied by an adult over 21, who is lawfully able to possess a firearm. That's for handguns. Long guns are different. I was hunting by myself at 12 years old. My sons were trained in marksmanship and safety before they were 12. They were told to use my firearms to defend our home if necessary when I was away, but not to touch them otherwise. They obeyed. Some people are just too crazy to be trusted with anything, especially people who had shitty parents.
In some situations I can see a parent having 100% control over a firearm that might be sentimentally their kids until they are of age. Hunting rifle, sporting shotgun and possibly in some cases a pistol. This situation is obviously not an appropriate one. If your kid wants to shoot sporting clays and hunt birds and you make it a family thing with safety courses and everything, ok but if your kid is drawing pictures of carnage, making threats and fantasizing about death a firearm should never be available to him.
Love her! She's calling it out the way it was..no sugar coating!! I think she's a strong truthful woman that I hope that things got better for her. I salute you!!
I knew it!!! When the news said he had spent jail time because of being behind on child support, and also when they released that the mother had texted him “lol I’m not mad at you. You just need to learn to not get caught” I thought to myself I know EXACTLY what type of people these are.
Someone said’ and I double quote “they are the “hold my beer” type”. I was born/raised in Wyoming that just immediately resonated like, ooooof clocked!
It's a form of child abuse, it's neglect . Although the parents were there for him physically, they clearly weren't there emotionally and did not give him what he needs to properly grow. Now after this story it's clear he neglected his other child too, both physically and emotionally.
I mean, she comes off pretty hostile, but after what has happened... She's probably justified. After all, she said she's grateful her son wasn't there.
Despite stereotypes, being the ex doesn’t mean she’s wrong. It just means she’s grateful to no longer have that man’s influence over her son. No one divorces someone who is a positive influence.
There is something not normal about James. How do you go from making 6 figures to driving for door dash? I'm watching him mouthing the words, "I love you", to Jennifer, as though he is on a date and not under arrest for manslaughter because he very disturbed child killed 4 people. And I won't even get started on that,,,,woman.
That Crumbley's criminal attorney is pulling a Brian Laundry's attorney shenanigans, helping them buy time, trying to torpedo the search against them, she should be equally prosecuted and incarcerated alongside them!
This is the story of so many parents with psychotic ex spouses who fear for their life and can't wait for their joint custody to end. Your life hangs on a thread with fear, panic and dread with every visit because you know how dangerous the other parent's home is but judges don't care and aren't educated in law let alone psychology or family sociology. Family court judges are voted and appointed and don't require any relevant education
You’d think with these many stories people would use better judgement before lying in bed with someone they don’t know very well and bringing life into the world, but nope…
They are educated, but are heavily biased and friends with some of these people which is why this nonsense is allowed to continue in the family court system.
The parents should be charged with child neglect as well. The school officials warned them and they refused to get their son mental and emotional medical attention.
A classmate stated that the shooter was bullied. The school officials didn't do anything for bullying and waited for behavior problems. They should be charged along side of the parents.
@@jeffreyhershey5754 The father had enough money to purchase a handgun for his deranged son on Black Friday while he’s behind on child support for his other two kids.
@@almostfamous2008 The gun was purchased by his father and the mom later posted about it on social media saying the gun was her son’s new Xmas present.
Your son was protected. If only people understood sometimes that man's rejection is God's protection. Thank God your son was not raised by the sperm donor, or he may be the one heading to jail. Poor Ethan, we won't know what he may have gone through.
@@mikemartin5749 My thoughts exactly. Why doesn't God help the people who get shot in these tragedies? Thoughts and prayers do nothing. It's basically a slap in the face--what are people supposed to do with those thoughts and prayers? It won't bring their child back. It won't ease their grief, or heal their family. It won't stop another shooting from happening again.
I don't think it was a question of "spoiling" (who knows how he was treated otherwise at home?). It was a case of neglect, selfishness, and failing to see reality beyond their noses. When he wrote that his life was worth nothing (I can't remember the exact quote), I think there's a damned good chance that his "parents" made him feel that way. The shooting may have even been an attempt to win their approval, and love.
What pained me is what this woman is saying, it's the nonchalant attitude of his parents during the zoom call, how can you keep a straight face, while your son has just gone on a killing rampage Aided by you. The face of a heartless human being.
I know how she feels!!! My sons father married a woman and they had a son...she's deranged, he goes with it, and their son is abusive now at 20yrs old!!! CRAZY! Also, only paid $68/wk in child support and was far in arrearage when my son turned 20!!! 😆 Whatever, my husband (his step-dad/ real dad since 3yrs old) did all the raising...thank God!
The school should bear some responsibility as well. They had a meeting with the parents and the parents declined to take him home therefore, he was sent back to class with his backpack and without notifying the school resource officer. They are just as guilty.
All these people saying the school should be blamed?? Do you agree guns should be banned too??? And if not why not? Do you think the NRA should also be sued?? If not why not??
We all thought Brian Laundrie’s parents win worst parent of the year in America but I think this kid’s parents take the cake.
@@skullhyper8006 how bad are yours
@@jordanw1649 how yours bad are
Ocean Rocks
My thoughts exactly 💯
I'd say they Tie. Both are Evil.
@@BonRain8734 how bad are yours
I literally spilled what I was drinking when the first thing out of her mouth was "he's a piece of 💩!" Lmao
Yeah, I was like whoa, what, did she really say that?
@@Barnabas555 easy Joseph smith, that’s more than an ex, they were married at one point and had a kid. She would definitely know more about his character than most people lol
@@ratchet780 you literally defined an ex.
@@Barnabas555 Well you do realize the police probably came to her and asked her questions about the whereabouts of her ex husband. She's a connection to him.
I mean, I don't deny what she says, but obviously this woman has to let the past go and move on with her life. So hopefully her son turning 18 is like a clean slate without him in it, the dad. With that resentment, that shit will end up infecting you....more so than covid would. 😉
Every child deserves a parent, but not every parent deserves a child.
Why not?
@@Coolcarting you know fucking why
Or do I have to explain it
That is deep. You are 100% correct. This is so sad. These parents did nothing to help him. It is so disturbing. As a mother my heart goes out to all 4 Families. Also as a mother I do not understand how you ignore the warning signs. Prayers are with anyone who is suffering. 🕯🤍 🕯🤍🕯🤍🕯🤍
Yesterday my wife went on a rant about this very issue. We need a license to do our jobs, to drive a vehicle, to shoot a deer, to get married...but any a$$hole can make a baby.
Parents around the world should be held more accountable when they display unconscionable parenting. Im so happy this prosecutor is stepping up.
Here, here I agree 100% it is about time parents are held accountable for the shitty job they are doing in raising a child. REMEMBER hate is LEARNED no one is born hating anyone the parents MUST help bring that hate out, and if they do they must PAY THE PRICE!
If parents were held accountable for their children's violence, harassment and vandalism, we would see less unwanted pregnancies and better parents.
This is bs. Her dumb*ss chose him as a mate. She got what she deserves. And now society will pander towards the woman which it does best.
In this case it's only because they provided the gun and refused to get him help when the school warned them. In most school shooter cases they either bought the gum themselves because they're 18 or they stole it from a family member.
The woman is an ex. She isn’t going to say anything good about him now, no matter what. You all swallow all of this media garbage as if it is gospel.
This lady is straight forward. She must have went through a lot with these two.
I feel sorry for his half brother who was ashamed of his father's actions and his stepmother was a monster along with her husband
@@recoveringsoul755 Pointing out the fact that the ex is a scab isn't revenge. She's being factual.
If you’ve never been forced by a shit judge to have to co-parent with a piece of shit ex, then you have no right to comment. It is hell. Period. You are literally holding your breath until the kid turns 18, until you are free of them. I can completely understand how she feels.
@@chevtrukman aren't you assuming she is good? Is it not more likely that she is also a terrible human being as is her ex? You may see yourself as "good" parent and your ex as terrible but do not project yourself onto others.
@@recoveringsoul755 so?
If my child had been killed by someone whose parents had been warned by the school several times that he was mentally unstable, who refused to take him home to deal with the issues, and on top of all that bought him a high-powered weapon for Christmas, I would be seething with rage. This was so utterly, completely, tragically avoidable. This is the definition of negligence. It may even rise beyond negligence and into contributing to the delinquency.
👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽 This is what I’ve been saying about these parents as well as Kyle Rittenhouse’s mother and friends father. Enough is enough with this crap! Parents need to be charged whenever they contribute to the delinquency of a minor. Especially when someone dies and it was unnecessary and avoidable
@@IGTheCrown except, Einstein, Rittenhouse didn’t commit a crime. He had just as much a right to be out there that night and just as much a right to not be molested by the likes of Jacob Rosenbaum.
Child abuse
@liZ gandeR , well, they WERE charged with involuntary manslaughter.
@@stephenjohnson9632 Aw do you feel better than me because you attempted to be insulting? You realize there is a difference between the crime of contributing to the delinquency of a minor and committing murder. There is also a biological difference between a mother, a friend of a father and a child? So thank you for the attempt to insult me by calling me Einstein lol. It’s a compliment coming from someone who struggles with reading and comprehension. I can tutor you if you’d like
The real joke is that they only ordered him to pay 67$ a week for a child while he was making 6 figures. I’ve heard of people working 15$ an hour who have to pay more than that. Yet he still didn’t pay it.
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Nobody needs a handgun or AR15 at that age . NOBODY. Take him fishing
I believe her. It's obvious what type of people they are. To know your child has a gun and not say anything is beyond disgusting.
You'll cry when you find out how many kids have guns... For 2 weeks (November 15-30), how many fell prey to to children with high powered semi automatic guns?
She's bitter and angry. And sounds like she's on something or drunk
@@Arthurian. Many young people enjoy shooting firearms, thats not a bad thing. .000001% ever do anything like this, so please dispense with the anti gun nonsense.
The father did not know that the gun was missing out of the drawer when he got back from the school he looked and the one was gone he then text his son pleaded with him not to do it and then he called the law it was to late.
“To know your child has a gun”? They bought him a gun!!!
One more thing I'd like to point out to some of the people making critical comments about the ex-wife...she's not wanted for manslaughter, nor did she do a runner from the police.
But is she saying anything of actual relevance? If not, how do you expect someone to take her opinion on any alleged crime seriously? Or, why should they?
Don’t get me wrong, not being wanted for involuntary manslaughter or evading is a great start, but one’s own criminal record history rarely has any real standing when stating an opinion on someone else’s.
She did raise an 18-year-old son who weighs 240 lb, just saying
Exactly! These internet warriors love to give their opinion on ppl life's when theirs are worst
@@christopherd5941 actually the statement about Crumbleys behavior as a father is relevant.
@@charlieduvall6463 I would assume he had some type of custody agreement with his ex, which is why his other child was staying with him in the first place. Based off of how the mother spoke about him, I doubt she would’ve agreed to any kind of custody agreement based off of her judgment alone. I could be wrong about this, as it is just an assumption, but the courts must not think his behavior as a father is all that appalling as the mother makes it out to be, otherwise he probably wouldn’t have any type of custody to begin with. Which could make this a first time offense of neglect for him, which, I would think, would help in his case against the involuntary manslaughter charges.
Also, is his behavior as a father towards his first son actually relevant towards his other, which he had full custody of? Does their relationship status matter as much? This isn’t a condescending question; I’m genuinely curious.
Do you have some type of legal training or a current or former student in legal work? I know legal questions generally aren’t something you can just Google, as there’s usually more exceptions to a case than one may expect, which is why I ask them.
I believe this woman is speaking the truth, just that statement about her son turning that magical18, and now would be rid of the bad parent speaks volumes for all of us divorced parents that felt that very same way about our own children...she's being truthful in my opinion
💯💯💯
18 doesn’t mean your done
Being a parent is forever !
Nah she crazy
I totally agree
They need to do more interviews with this woman.
I know how she feels. My son turned 18 recently and I was sooooo freaking happy to NOT have to ever deal with his father again. It was 18 years of hell.
Props to you for enduring that hell. . . I hope better days are ahead for you and your son! Cheers
@@itgetter9 Thank you
As women we have to be much more carful who we reproduce with.
@@anneb889 I agree. I'm finished reproducing though, so I'm good. lol
Same experience, word for word, for one of my coworkers.
It appears to me these types of situations are very common.
I think women need to become much more selective about whom we marry.
the 18 year old son probably thought that ethan was lucky to have both parents all the time. i guess this gives him clarity that he was the lucky one
This might not be true. My parents are divorced and I wouldn't change it. My "dad" is a mental abusive piece of shit and I would not be in the place I am in now if it wasn't for my mom divorcing him. Every time I saw him he would do everything in his power to tell me I am worthless, fat, ugly, clumsy among many other things. Where my mom in many ways is my best friend and extremely close, it's been like that since I was a kid.
I can totally relate to this woman’s story. My son has a similar dad and step mom. Spends a fortune on fancy cars and vacations… but the tiny bit of child support for my son is a problem. And similarly, she controls everything so that means my son gets the shaft and her son gets everything. It’s sad because my son loves to spend time with his dad and half brother, but his step mom is so mean to him, he’s not comfortable going over there. I wish his dad had some balls!
Bro wtf???
Thank GOD Ellie has a mom with a conscious, morals and cares! THANK GOD Ellie was not there. He could have been charged also. Wow, being a mom of 5 who ran from her abusive 20 year marriage. I know first hand what $67 means in caring for kids at less then the basics. This mother deserves a hug and a high five from all of us moms esp single moms WHO DO IT RIGHT!
Them : “ Were learning more about the Crumbley family..” Her : “HES A POS HE REALLY IS” 😂😂😂
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😂😂😂
I think all x’s would say the exact same thing with any guy or lady both ways. Thats y they r x’s
She didn’t try to dress it up at all! 😂😂😂
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They gave Ethan everything except the help he needed.Tragic story. What parent in their right mind would purchase a gun for a minor and a troubled one at that. My condolences to the victims and all the students who were traumatized that day.
It's the Connecticut massacre all over again.
@shontemartinez I also thought how tragic for that 1 teacher who reported him to the office that day. The office just blew that teachers concern off and sent him back to class. She or he will also have PTSD for life. They will question should they report another child? Will the next child they report shoot them on the way to the office? They must be questioning how they didn't themselves get shot for reporting the kid! Yes that teacher, the admin who sent him back to class to begin a killing spree and student there and at all other schools are always traumatized when this happens again. Glad my youngest is graduated now. I remember the toll it would take on him and all his friends when these shootings would happen.
The gun was purchased for him Christmas so I'm assuming it was last year we don't know if the parents knew he had problems until the school called them in & if they did then it's neglect they're guilty of not getting him help.
@@rvingkeepitrolling8797 the gun was purchased days before the shooting. I guess it was an “ early” Christmas gift.
Gun was purchased last Friday (black Friday) as a gift for this Christmas.
I am pretty sure now based on the evidence coming out that the parents had some idea that their son had issues and was unstable.
Parents brushing off the school officials concerns about the disturbing actions and notes like they were quite accustomed to their sons state of mind and didn't care.
Not to mention that tell tale text the mother sent the boy the day of the shooting. "Don't do it". Implying she may have known what he was thinking of doing or done.
Why his parents thought giving him a gun in with his mental state was a good idea, is just ludicrous.
Just like the Connecticut shooter. Mom got her emotionally unstable son a rifle. He turned it on kids at an elementary school.
Also ended up killing his Mother with the same gun. I guess the Crumbley's got off lucky their son didn't go full circle.
Awful school administration, too.
School: "Your son is writing stuff about shooting and killing. He needs help."
Parents: "No, he doesn't."
School: "Okay, whatever, you're right. Ethan, you can go back to class now."
Yea blame the school admin for not parenting other people children. The parents refused to take the kid out of school.
Not the schools fault its the fault of the parents and morons like you placing blame on everyone but the idiots that raised him.
School should be also responsible! He should be out from school that same day but no school was protecting shooter and feeling bad for him instead of taking a serious action!
@@Dopeamiine I guess you're still learning the English language, but here's a tip: go look up the word "too" in the dictionary. But anyway, it's absolutely school's responsibility to remove him from the school, dumbass. They are totally at fault for just shrugging their shoulders and ignoring terroristic threats. They are literally REQUIRED BY LAW to remove such a person, student or not, and notify law enforcement. They are in charge of the school, and when terroristic threats are being made, THEY need to take action for the school that THEY are running. Literally no one agrees with you that the school should've been all "whatever, no big deal" about it. The fact that you think that makes you a dangerous person.
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@@Dopeamiine You're not a normal person. Your argument is that schools should allow kids to make terroristic threats and not call the police. We have laws in this country.
Actually they sound like typical parents- father doesnt want to pay for a kid he created, and the mom always thinks she is right.
Just like Willy Winks said,"how do you get bad children, BAD PARENTS".
Who the fuck is willy winks
@@jamalydude probably meant Willy Wonka
@@jamalydude LMAO 💀
Facts
Wtf,, willy winks 😂😂
If ever there was a time when parents of a murderous child should be held legally and criminally responsible for their kid's actions, THIS is such a time.
Tell me, what law did they break?
You won't be feeling that way when it becomes the norm and then your son goes through hard times and commits a crime and they throw you in jail. You're calling for the end to innocent until proven guilty? Now we just get thrown in jail for what our family members do?
What about the school employees and the policy that let him go back to class? All involved lead to murder.
@@tylerbodie3343 What about the kids who bullied him every day at school? Are they responsible for murder too? So...maybe one of the murder victims cause his own murder by being a bully. Should they be charged?
Bullying has always existed, social media made it a nightmare. My parents taught me to ignore the bullies and have confidence in myself. It worked.
The school as well as the mom knew this kid was a danger that day and shoved it under the rug.
Having spent some time in a public school in the past 3 years it is terrifying the window of our public school system and parenting.
A recipe for disaster for the children swept under the rug and the rest who happen to be around when they finally lose it. This boy had problems, knew it, parents BOUGHT him a gun of his own. The school knew it, what part is hard to comprehend?
So many teachers hands are tied between administrators needed the money and parents who should not be called parents.
The next profession to have shortages.
Let’s get the disgruntled ex to chime in. That means a lot.
I totally agree about those idiots being held accountable. However I am still so angry with the school. This was 100% preventable!!! My heart goes out to those family members who will never have the same holiday season ever again
They are innocent
No one killed anyone or shot up that school but that boy. He planned it out on his own and made his own decisions. Almost everyone in prison has shitty parents and went to subpar schools, but most aren't mass murderers or terrorists, and you people cry for none of them. You defend a boy who takes a gun to threaten and shoot protesters and ends up killing people trying to stop him. This kid's crimes are at the top of the list of the worst, and dummies want to blame everyone but him.
Yeah, always blame the school whose hands are tied by ignorant parents whose chief responsibility is raising the child.
i HOPE that mother realizes now what a blessing it was for her own son to not be close to his father. what she probably thought of as painful and unfair for so many years, now she can see the universe was taking care of her and her boy! Lucky lady!! :)
So true
God works in Mysterious Ways
Yep, everything happens for a reason! Went through hell for 23 years of something similar.
@@Freespiritedqueen yes , me too . He was an ex cop sociopath, narcissistic psycho . My daughter doesn’t talk to him and my son just wanted a father . He will pay the price as he is 78 and I give him 4 years to live . I have told him and told him to get right with God . Hell is Real
@@kathyr.8135 COP.....say no more😠 lol!! Love hearing stories like this. A happy ending😍 for you and your children. It disturbs me that we went or are going through this..the law will change concerning these cases. TRUST!
James and Jennifer created this monster, they must be held accountable for the actions of their son, actions they set into place buying a 15 year old a powerful weapon for Christmas. Because of their lazy, spoil him rotten parenting style four families will never celebrate Christmas with their child ever again. I hope they’re prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law and their awful son too.
@ Chronic Payne: A 9 mm pistol isn’t that powerful. Powerful yes when compared to a .22, .25 or .32 caliber. But most calibers are more powerful. Take for instance .38, .40, .45, 10mm, .357 magnum, .44 magnum and the .500 calibers. Even the .223 pistols, all more powerful. Too many to list. What sets the 9mm apart is it has moderate power, lower recoil and high capacity magazines. That’s why the 9mm has such a popularity. But that kid could have killed as many or more with a .22 pistol. It’s all about shot placement, hitting the vital areas. Any caliber will kill if used properly. Something else to consider is ammo used. Ballistic tipped and hollow points are far more lethal than fmj. The biggest mistake is buying a lunatic any kind of weapon. Those parents had to know their son was mentally unstable. Second mistake was not keeping the weapon locked up. Youth’s can be law abiding fire arms owning citizens under the right tutelage. It all starts at home with the parents. Started my sons off with a BB gun at about 6 years old. Then a pellet gun, then a .410 shotgun, then a .22 rifle. Then moved up to deer hunting caliber. They were under adult supervision when using any type of weapon, gun safety stressed at all time. Preached accountability and responsibility of ownership. Had gun safety courses to get hunting license. Above all, guns, even the lowly BB gun was locked up when not in use. Kids should not have free reign with weapons.
I thought it was against the law for a kid under 18 to even own a handgun
@@djmerritt9338: No, apparently not. It’s federal law that you have to be 21 to buy a handgun thru an ffl. But in the state of Alabama you can get a concealed carry permit at age 18. Go figure!
@@djmerritt9338 it is illegal for someone under 21 to buy/own a handgun but you can use a handgun or any rifle at the gun range or on private property where it is safe to shoot. I started shooting bb guns in cub/boy scouts when I was in 1st grade so about 6 yrs old, prior to shooting we're taught simple things like point it down/away from all people, make sure saftey is on, never look down the barrel, unless your firing don't put your finger on the trigger, squeeze don't pull the trigger, etc. Guns are not scary, it becomes really scary when you someone who never learned these things possesses/buys a gun, like in the Rittenhouse trial when the prosecutior pointed the gun at the courtroom/jury w/his finger on the trigger
@@virgildailey1970 First of all it’s still a gun and guns don’t kill people people kill people cops use 9 mm all the time
The parents went out and hired their own attorneys while leaving their son without any other choice but to ask for a public defender. That alone says a lot about them.
The money they took out of the bank was from Ethan's account- a total of $4k. They used that and sold their house for their attorneys. 1 independant lawyer and 1 from Lehman Bros.
Isn’t she a stellar mother? Connecting her child to the family publicly. Isn’t this a time to protect her sons identity!
triggered much?
If you have nothing to hide and have nothing to do but being related.....uhm yeah-she can confirm what everyone thinks! When is you kid going to act out his terrorism so we are ready?
yeah but her son is over 18. he knows what is happening probably even more than her. he knows it's his f ather. everyone around him already knows it's his father. so maybe speaking out against them helps them mentally.
but you could be right. who knows
Doesn't mean she's a bad mom, but I would've brought his name to the forefront either. At all!
She an Ex but Clearly She knows this awful parents .. She's Right. Glad Your Son its ok.
She dug her grave now swim in it. She wanted her son to have the best genetics and now he does. He's 6'3 a natural alpha he'll be fine if he was 5'4 or 5'5 then yeah that sucks for him! but nah no sympathy for her and him everyone got what they wanted in this deal. Stop complaining.
@@JDOGFTW what are u talking about?
@@guayaba_salvaje he is short
Your grammar isn't
@@awesomeone2979 where did you get the presumption from?
Not surprising.
those parents are horrible human beings.
They failed Ethan bad. And so did the school.
My son is 240plus pounds do u know how much $67 a week ($268) a month goes to feeding someone 240 pounds lmfaoooo sounds like a personal problem and that mother should spend the 268$ a month to do some home cooked meals instead of buying her son fast food none stop and letting him become 240pounds while only just turning 18 smhhhhhh that dude probably going to be a easily over 300 pounds by the age of 25 if he don’t change his eating habits and stop drinking 2 liters of soda none stop
@@trevorxx123 He can play football for Michigan
@@trevorxx123 you really got the point of this story didn't you??
@@mdk0516 The school could have done better, but they aren't the child's parents. If they took over the parental role, parents would be screaming about it.
The public: Brian Laundrie's parents are the worst, hands down!
John and Jennifer Crumbley: Hold our guns!
Regardless of what he did or didn't do in this case. I don't trust a bitter ex's opinion of their former significant other for shit. That goes for any guy or girl I know. There isn't a more emotionally driven and biased opinion you could have of a human being. Than towards an ex that things ended ugly with. Whenever I hear someone telling me how big of a piece of shit their ex is. I just nod my head and awkwardly look around. While I occasionally make just enough eye contact to convince them I'm listening.
Newsflash: Over half of people having kids today shouldnt have them, result of irresponsible kids having kids.
And lack of birth control knowledge and availability! 🥴🙄
and yet this country is trying as hard as it can to force the birth of unwanted kids.
I got laid off for 3 weeks when Corona virus started to spread in 2020 and I missed my payment for the first time in 12 years and right away I started getting letters from the state. How do some people go for years without paying?
64 yo male here. Every time I consider a relationship... God gives me a gift like this.
*There's no way I would bring the spotlight on my son at this time! What a stupid thing to do*
Not only James Crumley a fugitive he's dead beat dad👎
According to the bitter ex using the crooked justice system to steal his money.
Important lesson: don’t get knocked up by a loser. Marriages end, a kid will tie you to someone FOREVER !
I am pretty sure she loves her son and has no regrets raising him, yes the father sucks but at least she had the strength to leave many dont.
@@justcurious1146 FOR REAL!!!👏🏽
Most times you don’t know until it’s too late
@@TheDiana09v I dunno you can see that guys face something is wrong lol wth is wrong with his face
@@stoptrudeau42 the Dad looked better when he was younger. Now his character is showing in his face.
No way I would have publicly claimed any connection to those people for my son's sake especially.
I saw some of the videos on the father’s youtube channel, of a young Ethan like 10 years old. He seemed normal. What changed in 5 years?
If your outgoing child becomes withdrawn, wears black all the time, and gets caught with a sketch of a shooting… it’s time to get him help and get him out of school! The parents should have taken all of those signs as warnings to get their son help, or at least get him home schooled. I fully believe some kids are too emotionally weak to handle high school and social media. They need to grow up a little and learn to stop giving a damn what people think. The best way to do that is home schooling.
Instead the parents are too inconvenienced to leave their low wage jobs and take their son home that day. Act like parents! This tragedy could have been prevented.
her son is going to need a lot of support emotionally to get through this- imagine your flesh and blood half brother and dad being those two-
That son who was abandoned by Ethan Crumbley had a blessing in disguise. He’s now not in prison for committing acts of violence towards others. And that had everything to do with his mother’s raising of him. Hats off
Ethan doesn't have kids lol....He's 15
154 people gave this a thumbs up?? Says a lot about reading comprehension. It says Ethan Crumbley's FATHER. NOT Ethan Crumbley. Ethan doesnt even have kids. 🤦♀️
@@michellevibonese5673 At that point, they failed the American school system, not the other way around
@@ericlajoie8028 I’m pretty sure you guys can see through the typo and understand the point they are making. The ex wife and son avoided a life of abuse and potential life in jail
@@michellevibonese5673 OP said verbatim "that son who was abandoned by Ethan Crumbley" implying he has a son. Says even more about your reading comprehension.
Boy, if I had a nickel for every time a woman called her ex husband an POS.
Good job for speaking up
When I saw pictures of Ethan's parents, I was struck with how much both their appearances and behaviours were reminiscent of Brian Laundrie's parents. There are exceptions to this rule, but I think in general, monstrous parents can raise monsters.
How do you know what the laundries knew? What if they had no idea?
He reminded me of DaddyoFive.
Well body shaming is taboo now
I was thinking of Kyle Rittenhouse's mom too , but this one beats the cake.
@@Angel-tw3ko they absolutely knew what happened 🙄He came home from a cross-country road trip without Gabby in her vehicle....they're either crackheads, severely mentally impaired, or they were complicit in covering up the crime. It's as simple as that.
In another story they showed a text from Jennifer to her son, Ethan, after he got in trouble at school for searching for bullets to buy online. The text said that Ethan was not in trouble with her but just don't get caught next time. Great parenting there, Jenn....
Had a neighbor several years ago with a tween son who was a terror around here. Can do what every he wanted with impunity.
Even curse is parents out .... in public and infront of his friends.
Mother seemed like she half heartedly tried to reign him in. But the father just kept letting it pass. Rewarding him with everything from an expensive RC cars to a full quad ATV that he would ride up and down the side walks.
One day in his mid teens he just got so out of hand, threatening his family one night that they had to call the police and swat to calm him down and take him in. Probably his first spanking in his life and it had to be by the police. Was back the next day though.
Thankfully, he never got to the point of this Crumbley kid.
@@DocMicrowave Yup, some parents have no sense!
'Enabling' is one thing. 'Aiding and abetting', another.
I'll always wonder why they thought it was a good idea to buy him a gun 🤷
May the souls of those children rest in peace and their loved ones be comforted 🙏
@@ninacohen5401 They are both the same, actually. Except aiding and abetting is a more appropriate word to use in illegal matters.
Let’s ask the EX wife what she thinks... and act surprised when she says exactly what everyone would expect
Yeah, let’s talk to the ex wife. I’m sure she will have an unbiased point of view
I know how this woman has been through cause I had the same experience when I had to deal with my ex-husband about my son’s child support and the father’s visitation for almost 10 years. I was so excited and crying the day that my son turned 18 years old. I celebrated myself for not having to deal with that horrible man ever again !!!!
My son is 17and I am counting the days . 💙
Just like this story. Men that don't take care of their kids. Never live a blessed life. That goes both ways. I don't care who u r or what you have. God gives us children. He expects us to care for them. Praying for all of the Mothers who are dealing with this.
Good for you both; stay strong
@@karenscales5077 USA literally hates women, from my experiences I got Fooked by court, welfare, Child support. Tax office and his lawyers. All these years he been able to stash cash and pay for lawyers,all to keep a stable safe place over my kids head and I am damn sure his retirement funds are all triple any of ours. Enough ranting just waiting for my kid to go to university then mummy going home to UK 🇬🇧.
@@karencarpenter5845 yea if you look at the family court system in America, statics will show you that it favors women more than men. So your first sentence is wrong.
Her first thoughts were about her son being safe. Ethan's dad's first thoughts were to race home to see if the gun was there because he knew Ethan was the shooter. Ethan's That mom texted him "not to do it" tells you the difference between the parents. Then he and his wife ran ran instead of looking after their son when they should have been with him.
Just looking at Ethan, from even old school photos, you can see there is something wrong. Ethan's teachers tried to warn the administration, the administration contacted the parents and told them he needs to go home and get into counseling ASAP. The parents response was no and the administration accepted that instead of going with their instincts and suspending him.
The mom in this interview seems like she knew what Ethan and his parents are like. It is a good thing her son was home with her instead of his father's home.
Ethan made his decision, but it sounds like no one except the teachers tried to really get him help. When a teacher has concerns about something like this and you see some evidence, then you had better listen to the teacher.
Let's hope that the actions of the school administration (and the possible legal, financial and professional consequences) may force changes that would prevent a repeat (at least to a significant degree) of something like this.
The crumbles are innocent if you disagree your a racist point blank!
Yes schools are absolutely responsible for making sure every child in their school is safe and then gets home safe, and in this they failed. They are absolutely responsible for make sure bullying and questionable behaviours do not happen inside schools. They should have flagged him, possibly referred him to children’s services and suspended him. But they are not responsible for what happens with children outside of their care, or what led Ethan do what he did. That responsibility belongs on the parents. Parents don’t want teacher’s having to much control, nor should they because they are teacher not parents, but you can’t also say in the same breath that you believe teachers should be held responsible for every single thing that goes wrong with a child’s upbringing. Parents need to step up, take responsibility for their kids and make sure they are helping their kids. I’m speaking as a parent. As a parent it is my decisions and responsibility to make sure my children get the help they need, whether academically or otherwise. I am responsible for marking decisions about what school they go to and I am also responsible for their health care. If parents aren’t doing this then they are failing terribly in their duties as a parent.
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The only thing the school did wrong was letting him stay and letting his parents leave without him.
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The crumblies are guilty as hell. They should have been charged and should be found guilty as charged. They knew their son had issues and they bought him a gun . His mother told him that he should not have gotten caught, what kind of parent is that? A guilty one.
It’s way past time that parents should be held accountable for their children’s actions. The actual problem is not being truly addressed , tho, just the immediate problem is being recognized. The actual problem is dysfunctional adults having and bringing up dysfunctional children.
Responsible gun ownership means locking them in a safe and knowing if your child is a nutcase.
Wow! She’s very lucky her son left that hell hole. Hopefully he didn’t pick up his father’s horrible characteristics. I hope he doesn’t think on them ever again and moves on with his life to be a model citizen and dad some day. His mother should be grateful she didn’t stay in the relationship and just chalk it all up to karma. Whatever you sow, so shall you reap.
Dam straight, going through it right now with father of one child like this woman and went through with another father of my son years ago. NEVER AGAIN! This is my last child and he took her from me as well. Monsters, so glad for that dude's karma activated. Can't wait for mine to get his karma soon.
She was in a relationship long enough to have a child with him....sans the marriage commitment. It seems to me that she has a problem with choosing men.
@@sagatuppercut2960 My picker was off twice. I gave up and decided it’s best for me to be single and free. Relationships are like gambling. You go to the casinos with all the lights, bells and whistles pick a machine that you think would have a big payout, only to get every penny taken and you lose. I just can’t take that chance again. I’d rather not have to deal with the BS and deception again. I’m not willing to except the better and worse. They can kiss my ass and hop a train to hell.
@@Freespiritedqueen It's never good to have children with multiple men. It's bad for the children and parents. If you lost custody of your daughter, to her father, can't you sort it out in court?
I was thinking the same thing!!!!
Finally, someone telling it like it really is, and not,'" They were such great neighbors and were always so helpful"
Exactly!!! That's the same thing I said. All she did was speak the truth about her trash ass ex and his wife!!
@@lovelybyfar all she really complained about was money and how she didn't get any of his money above what the court ordered child support was.
@@lovelybyfar think about this more a minute. She was talking about how terrible a person the father was. But she was the one who chose to have a child with this susposed terrible man. So what does it say about her and her life choices ? It is sort of like the pot calling the kettle black.
@@pedalingthru2719 Im wondering how he got away with just paying $67.00 a week child support if he has a 6 figure income, unless shes counting his wife's income too? That might be something else they need to look in to?
They couldn't find one single person in that town to come forward and vouch for these scumbags the news said.
If you wish someone else bad...reveals her own heart and her own character!
Good for her for speaking up!
Along with Brian Laundrie, we can see the trend of these two parents. Both most likely spoiled these boys, and did not set boundaries for how they should treat people and manage their anger. These parents have issues of their own and should not have kids in the first place
Well, now the supreme court will be forcing more garbage people to have children and raise them to be monsters.
@@eb7870 let's kill the garbage fetuses! 🙄
You have no idea. I know this lady at work who would write her son research paper and he is in college.
Not everyone should be a parent. Kudos to those that know this before they reproduce. 👏
You are cheering and clapping for abortion. Cute.
@@PD-we8vf cute you don’t realize people can simply not have children through birth control and condoms
Duh do you see how many abortions there are duh these people dont need kids lmao
@Herbert Derbin Or a child who does grow up in a loving home, but then inflicts damage on society. It happens both ways.
@@PD-we8vf Not abortion, BIRTH CONTROL. There IS a difference. And on that order, it's damn hard for women to get tubal ligations. And males aren't encouraging each other to get vasectomies, despite how many children ARE abandoned by the fathers to all kinds of social pathology.
Birth control, and shifting the culture's attitude about it, would solve several problems all at once. If it was a patriotic thing, to NOT have children you don't want, and society can't afford, yes, the world WOULD be better off.
Cheering, clapping for and demanding, if not REQUIRING males and females have full access to every means of birth control, is what we're talking about.
And encouraging people to have the introspection to realize they won't be good parents.
Understand now?
Her son sounds like a very healthy, better off kid. I’m glad she’s grateful.
Narcissistic abuse strikes AGAIN!! May justice for the victims and their families be SERVED!!!
Seems like these parents just bought a gun for their son to bring about this tragedy. Good job
That's what I've been thinking!
Mom and son day. She would be there with her son shooting those kids if she could
@@KuatoLives99 that would be kinda funny
It does kind of seem that way
Sadly not much different than the Sandy Hook shooting… mom bought the guns to relate to her kid.
It's illegal for them to purchase a handgun for their child. He can't legally carry a handgun for years to come. WTF is wrong with some people 🤦
It happens more than we are aware of.
As young as nine years old.
The news said it is legal as a gift. Who buys that kind of gun for a 14 year old? They need to change their laws in Michigan.
@@cheryldurham3560 oh I missed that I guess thanks for the info. No RESPONSIBLE PARENT who pays attention and their child acted like this one would buy him any weapons and they'd make sure he didn't have access to theirs but obviously these 2 people are just as looney as their child.
It's legal to gift a firearm to a minor. The law states that anyone under 21 years old has to be accompanied by an adult over 21, who is lawfully able to possess a firearm. That's for handguns. Long guns are different. I was hunting by myself at 12 years old. My sons were trained in marksmanship and safety before they were 12. They were told to use my firearms to defend our home if necessary when I was away, but not to touch them otherwise. They obeyed. Some people are just too crazy to be trusted with anything, especially people who had shitty parents.
In some situations I can see a parent having 100% control over a firearm that might be sentimentally their kids until they are of age. Hunting rifle, sporting shotgun and possibly in some cases a pistol. This situation is obviously not an appropriate one. If your kid wants to shoot sporting clays and hunt birds and you make it a family thing with safety courses and everything, ok but if your kid is drawing pictures of carnage, making threats and fantasizing about death a firearm should never be available to him.
Great interview.
She can never be wrong. Nothing more better than the whole universe telling her otherwise.
I wish she would have told us how she really feels.
good one karen
@@Chibeagle seems to me that it's YOU who's crying here...
Let her speak her truth why are you defending them
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@@Chibeagle Jackoff Lantern, more like it. F off, and get back downstairs
They gave their son everything except common sense
Impossible to give a gift you do not have.
Love her! She's calling it out the way it was..no sugar coating!! I think she's a strong truthful woman that I hope that things got better for her. I salute you!!
They should go to trial on charges of accessory before the fact-no plea bargains, no negotiations!
I knew it!!! When the news said he had spent jail time because of being behind on child support, and also when they released that the mother had texted him “lol I’m not mad at you. You just need to learn to not get caught” I thought to myself I know EXACTLY what type of people these are.
Someone said’ and I double quote “they are the “hold my beer” type”. I was born/raised in Wyoming that just immediately resonated like, ooooof clocked!
It's a form of child abuse, it's neglect . Although the parents were there for him physically, they clearly weren't there emotionally and did not give him what he needs to properly grow. Now after this story it's clear he neglected his other child too, both physically and emotionally.
@@scorpionwarrior9179 100% hold my beer people 😂😂😂
I’m not supporting these parents one bit. But this is was totally pointless and is not journalism. It’s sensationalism.
National Enquirer is the definition of sensationalism.
This really gives the definition of the Family from Hell, damn
This woman's comments about her relationship to the shooter's father seem irrelevant to the charges against the couple.
Not the best unbiased journalistic approach having an ex wife explain the situation but how it’s looking rn she’s prob right about everything
My thoughts exactly 💯
I mean, she comes off pretty hostile, but after what has happened... She's probably justified. After all, she said she's grateful her son wasn't there.
No, not reliable at all.. She should shut her mouth...
@@superknucklechildss7098 How the Hell would you know, Dim Bulb? Were you there? Do you know the parties concerned? Clairvoyant, maybe?
Why not? She probably knows their parenting style better than anyone else because she shared custody with them.
Despite stereotypes, being the ex doesn’t mean she’s wrong. It just means she’s grateful to no longer have that man’s influence over her son. No one divorces someone who is a positive influence.
Women divorce men every single day for mere money. Get the f*ck out of here with that bullsh*t.
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I'm not saying she is wrong, but unless I missed something, we can't know who divorced who because they were never married.
@@phantomshtter Not likely in the vast majority of cases. But in the case of Trump, you could be right.
@@jessep926 I do. (He’s a jerk to me) but I’d die before embarrassing my son.
Now that is what I call an unbiased witness.
There is something not normal about James. How do you go from making 6 figures to driving for door dash? I'm watching him mouthing the words, "I love you", to Jennifer, as though he is on a date and not under arrest for manslaughter because he very disturbed child killed 4 people. And I won't even get started on that,,,,woman.
That Crumbley's criminal attorney is pulling a Brian Laundry's attorney shenanigans, helping them buy time, trying to torpedo the search against them, she should be equally prosecuted and incarcerated alongside them!
This is the story of so many parents with psychotic ex spouses who fear for their life and can't wait for their joint custody to end. Your life hangs on a thread with fear, panic and dread with every visit because you know how dangerous the other parent's home is but judges don't care and aren't educated in law let alone psychology or family sociology. Family court judges are voted and appointed and don't require any relevant education
You’d think with these many stories people would use better judgement before lying in bed with someone they don’t know very well and bringing life into the world, but nope…
Here here!!!!
@@coreenaburke5775 Right!?
They are educated, but are heavily biased and friends with some of these people which is why this nonsense is allowed to continue in the family court system.
@@TaraVon Is this your first day on earth?
67 dollars a week that he couldn't even pay. Dad is a total scumbag.
I pray that every struggling single mother out there get justice and peace and prosperity take over.
The parents should be charged with child neglect as well. The school officials warned them and they refused to get their son mental and emotional medical attention.
A mental health arrest might have been appropriate.
Amen. Thank you.
A classmate stated that the shooter was bullied. The school officials didn't do anything for bullying and waited for behavior problems. They should be charged along side of the parents.
Court docs show the father has unpaid child support for two different women in Florida.
And that has zero bearing on this absolutely nothing to do with the other
@@jeffreyhershey5754 The father had enough money to purchase a handgun for his deranged son on Black Friday while he’s behind on child support for his other two kids.
@@jeffreyhershey5754 you wouldn't say that if he was black.
@@oceanrocks The mom bought the gun lol did you not watch the video?
@@almostfamous2008 The gun was purchased by his father and the mom later posted about it on social media saying the gun was her son’s new Xmas present.
the best thing he ever did for her and her kid was leave them and have as little additional influence on them as possible
Sad situation and no going back. Prayers to all that are suffering.
The mother told her shooter son: "Don't do it." Don't do what?
Exactly
She typed that AFTER the news had already broken of a school shooter. Which means she knew damn well what he had planned. DISGUSTING POS!!!!!
Your son was protected. If only people understood sometimes that man's rejection is God's protection. Thank God your son was not raised by the sperm donor, or he may be the one heading to jail. Poor Ethan, we won't know what he may have gone through.
My Mom always said that, rejection is God’s protection. You may never know what you were spared from. Lol, so true.
why does god only help some people? Where was he when the students were murdered?
@@mikemartin5749 Thank you. This is a question that remains unanswered.
@@mikemartin5749 My thoughts exactly. Why doesn't God help the people who get shot in these tragedies?
Thoughts and prayers do nothing. It's basically a slap in the face--what are people supposed to do with those thoughts and prayers? It won't bring their child back. It won't ease their grief, or heal their family. It won't stop another shooting from happening again.
So why exactly are the parents getting charged? Haven’t been keeping up with the case
That second anchor has the best news voice in decades!
yup... parents who spoil their kids. Now when said kid faces social pressures, they can't handle it..
I don't think it was a question of "spoiling" (who knows how he was treated otherwise at home?). It was a case of neglect, selfishness, and failing to see reality beyond their noses. When he wrote that his life was worth nothing (I can't remember the exact quote), I think there's a damned good chance that his "parents" made him feel that way. The shooting may have even been an attempt to win their approval, and love.
Spoiling = giving a kid everything they WANT.
What pained me is what this woman is saying, it's the nonchalant attitude of his parents during the zoom call, how can you keep a straight face, while your son has just gone on a killing rampage Aided by you. The face of a heartless human being.
James’ facial expressions throughout the zoom call are disgusting.
Lmao 240 pounds? I think he’s eating just fine
When James can get two women and you can’t even get one.
Unbelievable, the media has stooped to an all time low.
Now what about those people at the school who put him back in class?
Yes!! School definitely let the kids and parents down. Wtf!
Unfortunately no one will focus on that but they want to point fingers there should be pointing at the school as well
@@erinsue5 They were using Obama's discipline rules. Which means kids do not get what they deserve.
He would have done it the next day.
Not searching his locker, backpack etc... the district should be sued into oblivion by the injured parties.
$67 for child support? my dog eats more than that a week, lol
Nothing more reliable than a scorned ex.
I know how she feels!!! My sons father married a woman and they had a son...she's deranged, he goes with it, and their son is abusive now at 20yrs old!!! CRAZY! Also, only paid $68/wk in child support and was far in arrearage when my son turned 20!!! 😆
Whatever, my husband (his step-dad/ real dad since 3yrs old) did all the raising...thank God!
The school should bear some responsibility as well. They had a meeting with the parents and the parents declined to take him home therefore, he was sent back to class with his backpack and without notifying the school resource officer. They are just as guilty.
completely agree
All these people saying the school should be blamed?? Do you agree guns should be banned too??? And if not why not? Do you think the NRA should also be sued?? If not why not??
@@jeetbahal7878- I question if the kid and/or parents were asked if the kid had a gun on him and/or to open the backpack.
Unconditional love is the best ESSENTIAL gift you can give a child. Otherwise everything else becomes meaningless 😞
Unconditional love comes from animals not human beings. Learned that long ago.
the worst thing about all of this is that no one will be able to successfully sue these Crumblys.