2022 GSX-S1000 and Suzuki's business model | Let's be real
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- čas přidán 9. 04. 2021
- The upcoming 2022 Suzuki GSX-S1000 is exciting publications, forums, blogs and CZcamsrs the world over, but Suzuki's business model is not about state-of-the-art technical or technological solutions. Suzuki's core values are slow innovation, tried-and-tested solutions and fair prices. For the latest and greatest electronics, suspension systems, brakes, engines and jaw-dropping styling look elsewhere.
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This is the most real and down to earth expectations of any Suzuki launch, period. Love Suzuki and own the current gen Gixxs 1k, I don't see Suzy pulling any punches with the euro guy's, more of a staying inline/refresh to match what Yamaha have done with the MT range. And I think that's what makes a Suzuki, a Suzuki. It's refreshing to know that they speak more to their own style and character with an affordability and rock solid reliability. Thanks again 👌 Enjoyed this pre-release reality check.
Thanks for your feedback, Mike, appreciate it.👊
I also love Suzuki! Greetings from Poland :)
I have 3 bikes and they're all suzuki. good quality bike and low maintenance cost.
Indeed - my only Suzuki was absolutely spot on in terms of maintenance and reliability. They just need to come to 2021 in terms of electronic safety systems and styling.
You are so right! I hope it gets smooth fuelling & an up/down QS as a minimum. All that other electrickery is superfluous to me. We will see on Monday!
It would be insane to launch a 1000cc naked bike in 2021 without IMU-assisted lean-sensitive TC and cornering ABS. They *have* to do it. Beyond that, and a few riding modes, I'm not expecting much. I mean, look at the 2021 Hayabusa... Same old questionable styling, heavy as hell, as powerful as the old model...
I wonder how much they wanna have for the new gixxus.
A lighter more torque low in the revs layout would make this bike more attractive for street usage
It definitely would. But like I say I don't see them making it that much lighter - if any at all - and they're constrained by the K5 engine design (there's only so much you can do to improve low down torque on a specific engine).
Some people don't want all the electronics and modes. Just power, comfort, reliability and handling. I don't need to electronically adjust my suspension I know how to use a screwdriver 👍
The electronics I find indispensable are the IMU-assisted lean-sensitive TC and cornering ABS, as I clearly state in the video; I don't think electronic suspension is ever essential. The good thing about electronics is that you can easily turn them off if you think you're able to outride them - you can then simply turn them back on again when you realize you're not.
I don’t want any rider aids. My 848evo didn’t even have ABS and I loved it that way
I just got a 2021 GSX-S1000. When I sat on it... it felt just like my 636 stunt bike setup with raised clip-ons. Has just the right amount of electronics for me. TC and ABS and some ride modes I'll probably never use. Same HP as a GSXR 750 but with some low end torque.
Good for you, mate.
That's great - if you believe you can react faster and more consistently than state-of-the art computers you can easily turn them off. It's very simple to turn them back on again when you realize you can't.
What's interesting for me is learning, after searching around on the interweebz after seeing the new GixxuS announcement, that the S-1000 was the result of a custom/styling exercise by a Swiss company called the Virus. It was directly built on the Gixxer 1K of the time (2012), and they recently did the same with the newest 1000 in 2019.
I think Suzuki additionally planned to refresh using that '19 exercise, before seeing the interest/popularity in the neo-Katana.
I anticipated a refresh using Katana-esque rectangular light styling. I think it will use the same frame, get basic IMU traction control. I think the Z version will get cruise (and all versions will be ride-by-wire). I am suspicious the K5 motor has been updated with the K17 variable timing IF it's a way to make it Euro 5 compliant - otherwise just changes to exhaust system. Lastly, I think there will be suspension setting tweaks (or just different colored parts).
It would be a shame if only the Z version gets cruise control - it makes a massive difference on the highway, on RbW bikes it's literally 5 lines of code and the manufacturers could easily offer it as an option. I'll never get why some manufacturers artificially cripple their bikes...
I think you’ve just about called this one exactly right, with perhaps one or two caveats.
My 18 V Strom 1k has cornering ABS, surprised the current GSX doesn’t and I suspect the new model will get the new SIRS package (maybe). Suzuki offer reliable easy to own bikes for fair money but their spares prices have rocketed over the past few years, which is sneaky and I’d have to question that. Also the quality of some of their latest products mainly corrosion related isn’t good if you’re an all weather rider.
I agree with your vid it’s how Suzuki roll and long may it continue to do so.
Yep, some Suzukis already have the IMU-based cornering ABS and lean-sensitive TC - yours is a good example, the GSX-R1000R is probably the best one. I wasn't aware of the current spare parts price issue - something to consider before taking the plunge, definitely. The corrosion problems you mention seem to be quite widespread - my CB650R has some oxidation here and there (it's only superficial oxidation and it doesn't affect the parts integrity whatsoever, but even so...) - you wouldn't expect that from brand new Japanese bikes. Some mates also have brand new Japanese bikes and they're all reporting the odd rust spot here and there. I ride year-round, but around here temperatures are never below 0, so no salt on the roads, and it doesn't rain that much. I maintain my bike quite religiously with only the best products, so the oxidation came through no fault of my own... I'll have a video in a couple of weeks about this. Thanks for your input.
When we will see gsxr1000r 2022? I know there isn’t any reveal date but is there any small information or any guess about that situation? Thanks for good content.
It's in the video, mate - the 26th of April.
@@motozest7856 that is GSX-S , I was talking about GXS-R1000R
Oh, sorry, misread that! No date yet, but likely Q4.
@@motozest7856 do you think they’ll change something with the bike? Dash or maybe facelift? Cuz since 2017 it’s a same bike with a few minor changes.
The dash for sure, the current one looks like a 1980s Casio... The engine is rumored to abandon the current purely mechanical design of its VVT system (which uses centrifugal force to alter the intake camshaft's timing depending only on engine revs) in favor of a more sophisticated computer-operated hydraulic system (which allows changes to be made depending not only on revs but also throttle opening). Time will tell.
Honestly if it ain’t broke don’t fix it! K5 for life!
Indeed, I have absolutely nothing against the K5 unit - that's a peach of an engine. In the interest of reliability, and also because of the Euro 5 regulations, Suzuki won't be able to extract the headline grabbing horsepower figures from that engine (170-200hp), but that's not their business model anyway... The bike is in dire need of IMU-based lean sensitive TC and cornering ABS systems, though. And a less early-2000s styling wouldn't hurt either.
Guys its Suzuki....Ofc its not!!!!ahhahahahahhahaaha
I love Suzuki! I dont care...
Good for you!
@@motozest7856 just bought a 2021 GSX S750, no fees no delivery/set up... $8,500 out the door! Fun summer awaits us all frens
The new GSX-S1000 has wings so that suggests to me it's got more power and thus is faster than the old model. How much power we don't know yet but if it's the same motor/power etc than the old one then why give it wings. Go figure. Anyway all will be revealed soon.
Because right now wings are all the rage! I don't see it getting that much more power.
Suzuki's only weak spot is their electronics. Their bikes last forever but the electronics packages for it are still 10 years behind. But... It's a Suzuki... It will run forever and not break the bank.
Reliability is one of their strengths, I made that clear. But not only are they behind in terms of electronics, their designs also look dated (not old-school or vintage - just dated). They need to change that or they'll sell progressively less and less.
Good cos i dont want all that shit on my bike
The good thing about electronic rider aids is that you can easily turn them off if you think you can outride state-of-the-art computers in terms of speed and consistency; it's then easy to turn them back on again once you realize you're not. Ride safe.
I think your totally correct in your assumption. Motorcycle prices are getting crazy with all the bullshit electronics which just allow more chance of bike failure and constant recalls. It will be interesting to see how many modern bikes will still be running in tens years time . Not many I think.
I don't think electronics are bullshit - they're only bullshit when they're not properly developed and implemented (*cough*italian bikes*cough*). They save lives when a situation goes tits-up, because 99.9% of riders out there are a lot worse than they think they are and could never beat state-of-the-art computers in terms of speed and consistency.
Suzuki is the Toyota Land Cruiser of Bikes.... Electronics brings more problems....
I agree with the first sentence... certainly not with the second. Electronics only bring problems if they're unreliable, and they're only unreliable if they're badly developed or implemented (like they are on a few Italian brands, for instance). NO ONE reacts faster or more consistently than state-of-the-art computers; IMU-based lean sensitive TC and cornering ABS are an essential safety net for when things go tits up.