We destroyed the NBA's future with a video game | Fumble Dimension Episode 1
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- čas přidán 16. 09. 2019
- What happens when you give NBA 2K the worst draft class possible year... after year... after year? This show is a journey into a realm where sports are distorted beyond reason, impossible ideas are tested, and artificial intelligences are forced to reckon with a world that no longer makes any sense.
Welcome to the FUMBLE DIMENSION
A new SB Nation Labs series by:
Jon Bois: / jon_bois
Kofie Yeboah: / kofie
This video is a follow up to the 2014 series NBA Y2K: www.sbnation.com/nba-y2k
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150 prospects and not one is named "Bob".
The curse continues
Bob doesn't deserve to be a part of this.
Bob's tend to do some great things in sports.
149 Stupid Crap Faces and 1 99 OVR Bob Bob
Honestly that missed opportunity is sadder than the gameplay we witness.
you mean "Grace."
Best part about this is: The coaches and players may change, and be able to escape this simulated hell, but Shaq, Ernie, and Kenny remain, unchanging and un-aging. Also, looks like the refs stay the same too.
The TV contract wasn't the only one they signed.
Is that a Phantom Chevron in the comments of an SB Nation video?
@@willpitts5223 *Republican intensifies*
That dawned on me as well, it was bad basketball purgatory for those 3 Lmao 😂
This is the hell that Shaquille deserves for the complete sin that was Shaq Fu.
And its sequel.
And being in Freddie Got Fingered.
And the Good Burger movie.
And being a part of the terrible WrestleMania 32 *man it’s hard to remember how much of a genuine legend this man is some times*
This simulation predicted Jokic as the 2021 MVP. We have started on the path to the Fumble dimension
I feel like this isn't receiving the attention it deserves
I agree. Completely underrated comment.
Also predicted Kyrie taking time off for "personal reasons"
Predicted Enes Kanter being retired at 31
@@jzjz2633"retire"
"Personal reasons" seems like the most honest and legit reason for a dude who doesn't know how to play basketball to not show up for work in the NBA.
"due to personal reasons, i.e., sucking incredibly hard, i will be taking a few games off'
@@broncos435 Ben Simmons
Kyrie
Kyrie Irving has entered the chat…
I kinda like not-Jon-Bois... he has a distinctly "not Jon Bois" quality about him. Really contrasts well with Jon, who is 100% Jon Bois.
Funnily how Jon Bois write all of this
Why do people like jon so much I really dont see the appeal
stupid2574 what????
@@hellohow7867 Explain why people like him so much Im more of a Seth guy
@@stupid2574 mostly because of his work like 'chart party' and 'pretty good'
Does “personal reasons” refer to Enes Kanter being kidnapped by the Turkish Government
RugbyRyan’s Reviews wwe superstar
RugbyRyan’s Reviews Worst Case - best case, Erdogan gets ousted and he goes home to take a role.
Dereck Rose missing, Ty Lue leaving, etc
They are waiting for him to retire, become more obscure and lose the protection the NBA infrastructure provides. I really hope Erdogan is gone by then.
31:26 Jokic sitting down with his grandchildren and teaching them of the days he lived amongst Assassins that cooked and Kings that flopped
I feel like Personal reasons is more like "My dad died" but I like the idea of getting dragged out the middle of a game to go backpacking around Europe
They added the “‘miss games for personal reasons” option so you can accurately simulate being kyrie Irving
When they started talking about the "personal reasons" thing I literally did a control F search for "Kyrie" cause I knew I couldn't be the only one who immediately thought of him lmaooo
“Jon gave the created player we created both food poisoning and a bloody nose”
“I don’t know why I did that, it was just funny”
Ben Conrad Time to run a racist marathon then?
VeKtorVacuum Just get some strychnine and brandy in him, he’ll be golden.
"Every computer is filled with tiny men"
So is your league
It was an honor to be one of the 40 overall players. Found my name around the 21:50 mark. Well done boys. Can’t wait for more of these.
I wanna like your comment but it has 69 likes
Legend
Haha cool
Also, more cool, you can spot Bill Gilbert in the leftmost column at 4:20
It was hilarious watching the game try and fight them back.
"What are intangibles? I don't know, but he doesn't have them..."
Lmao!
Good stuff 🤣🤣
that killed me😂
I'm just happy a video game lets you quantify intangibles.
“2K: We Make the Intangibles Tangible.”
in case someone doesn't know
those include things like: motivation, game sense, drive, leading/teaching skills, emotional and stress resilience, other personality traits that may help or harm a team, etc, etc.
0:55 "I'm Jon Bois"
"I'm not..."
+10 points for self awareness
I wonder if that's supposed to be a joke referencing everyone's complaints that not every SB Nation video has Jon Bois in it?
@@jo-jowei6147 it is
And the crowds still attend no matter how hopelessly bad the play. It's like the Knicks.
I liked the comment until i saw the Knicks part
There is one, just one reason, for the Knicks to hold out hope.
Just kidding.
Don’t forget the Cubs for a while, though Cubs fans at the time were mainly diehard fans
@@noahkoz6873 And the Red Sox
Or the Cardinals
I'd love to see a version of this where everybody is a 25 in all categories...except for one that gets maxed out. Maybe it's hustle. Maybe it's left elbow durability. Now let's see which Idiot Savant has the greatest power.
thats actually a great idea
the guy with the 99 open 3pt shooting stat probably
@@broncos435 there's a guy who's done it and the guy with the maxed out layup or close shot actually dominated if I remember right
@@Thunderalpacka223 who?
@@thehoodedteddy1335 deez
91.7 rebounds per game for 6.5 points per game is absolutely hilarious 😂😂
especially when I don't know what a rebound is xp
@@NoNameAtAll2 how do you not know what a rebound is this a sports channel lmao
@@proofessor8062 it has "video game" in the name
@@NoNameAtAll2 When a player shoots the ball but the ball doesn’t go in the hoop, the act of catching the ball off of the missed shot is a rebound.
An offensive rebound is when the player who shot and the player that made the rebound are on the same team. A defensive rebound is when the player that shot and the player that made the rebound are on different teams.
"I'm Jon Bois"
"-and I'm not."
Real talk, this guy earned so much credibility and endeared himself so hard right there that I decided then and there to remember his name.
Skinner McLane and that is
@@JohnDoe-xg4zi Kofie YaBoie
I'm sure he doesn't give an f about you remembering his name, you don't matter.
@@ders972 you seem like an expert on irrelevance.
@@abj136 Yeboah.
"The dunk contest was filled with players that actually can't dunk but they do their best" LMAO
Basically the WNBA
The winning player won with a 5 for effort
I still find it baffling that these players are rated 40 overall. That implies that they are 40% of the way to playing perfect basketball. They are almost-half-great. In truth, these players are not even halfway to dressing themselves in the morning. The idea that they could score 40% on any test, by any metric, seems absurd.
To be fair, folks like Michael Jordan and Charles Barkley probably around high 200-300, I think.
when you think about it, having played basketball before in a competitive setting makes you better than someone who has never heard of the game of basketball by about 40% i’d say. maybe the baseline is someone who grew up in siberia, isolated from the outside world, and doesn’t understand the entire concept of basketball
@@cdw2468 Basketball Potential 0: Your civilization has not invented baskets yet. Potentially, not even balls.
I know this comment is two years old but I want you to know I cried laughing reading it
I kinda get it. 40 implies that they were good enough at a college/high school level to make it to the NBA in the first place. God only knows what 4'7" 5 OVR abominations are playing at the college level we don't get to see.
Jon: Makes all of the 40 overalls centers
Kofie: This little maneuver is going to cost us 51 years
Who's Kofie the only other person there is Not-Jon Bois
"Kenny looks sad. Let's skip him."
Jon, he's like 100 years old.
Fun fact: one of the older games (can’t remember which sport) did genuinely have “Soul-Searching” as an injury option
God this is a big mood
The Markelle Fultz
Definitely sounds like a Sega-era 2K feature
they gonna have that in 2K21 after andrew luck
What would be great is if a player could actually have the Soul Searching Injury Occur during a game
Now I wanna know how they chose a winner for the dunk contest if they couldn’t dunk
Ambition
they lowered the rim until it was possible
most stylistic layup-er won
Best flop.
its a Oreo cookie dunking contest. DUH
36:30 Buckner was getting the offensive board and passing it back to an open 40 overall player. The 40 overall would likely miss again, resulting in another possible rebound for Buckner. Few points, few assists, just rebounds. Simulator made the big man pass it out after the offensive board
“Players the game made WITHOUT OUR PERMISSION”
@Caleb Ritz you good?
@Caleb Ritz bud...
Somebody explain this in English?
Just glad the NBA TNT crew is immortal
And the referees too
What about the women down in San Antonio?
@@vinegarpisser2992 let's just bury the hatchet in the creek, victoria's definitely a secret to not talk.
@@anaveragejoehanginground I had churros last night. I see what all the excitement is about! I had churros last night. Man … them damn things good. Them churros good… Man, them churros are the bomb!
You know, having read the original Death of Basketball article, it amazes me how much the later version of the game is trying to prevent Jon and non-Jon from replicating Jon’s original experiment. It’s almost like one of the developers read the original and implemented multiple failsafes to stop this very thing from happening.
I regularly reread NBA Y2K. And watching this video, I get the same impression you do. First red flag: inability to adjust ratings to zero. All 40s across the board, really? This will be not as fun. We'll see bad basketball, definitely... but I was video of passes bouncing off faces like Santa's Little Helper. I want little dudes guarding invisible dudes. I want *comically* broken. Not just broken.
I love how sometimes they were so slow, they couldn't make it before getting a backcourt violation
You made an nba league composed entirely of 2019 dolphins, Impressive
I had this really awesome change in Madden 2006. I really disliked LaDanien Tomlinson, and I wanted to screw him over. I once changed his stats to make him bad, but they just cut him instead. So... I bumped up some of his stats, but turned his carrying(likelihood of fumbling) all the way down. Best automated franchise mode ever. Teams always signed him, and then got rid of him the next season. His teams always did terribly.
Omg HAHAHA.. that is so ummm... yaaa.
jakeem grant sucks
I think its actually the Dolphins biggest fan, Flipe.
@@tysontronowicz3731 Why did you hate Tomlinson so much?
"The year is 2058" *proceeds to play in Oracle*
They moved back.
Same unis... ha nah
@@AR-jt2ux The Chase Center is underwater because of the rising sea levels. They had NO CHOICE.
San Francisco blew up in 2038.
🤣😂
Upon rewatch, I just noticed that the draft commentary at 8:45 describes the player as a "solid contrubutor". Apparently the actual proofreader of this high-profile, high-budget game also had _his_ stats set to 25.
"Gotta go coach."
"Cam, It's half time!"
"gotta go."
"why?"
"Can't tell ya. It's personal."
The Dunk Contest was just them trying their best 😂😂😂 I am dead
Isn't it the case for the last Season's dunk contest? Lol.
CCKillbilly the WNBA dunk contest
Nah it’d be worse, like there’s a really solid woman shooter who’s 5’ 4 » but the majority are averaged at 6’ I beleive, not 5’ 4 »
Mustache D. Luffy nah, most are like 5’10, being 6’0 as a women is equivalent to being 7’0 as a man
I looked it up, the average height for women is 6’0 tall however most of them still can’t dunk, there are some ale NBA players who can’t dunk at that height unless you’re talking about D Rose or something, they’d need to be able to jump 4 feet high in order to do so
This was like watching Plague Inc but for 2k
Saaame
same dark quality
For real
Stupid Crap Face was Patient Zero
"Due to the alphabetical dominance of the Eastern Conference..." my favorite line by far.
"This story begins with a man named 'Stupid Crap Face'" I'm already sold, perfect.
When I saw Giannis and Jokic on the 40 Overall Warriors' coaching staff, the video went from being really funny to slightly depressing (but even funnier)
jokic looking like a giant while sitting in the middle of the players was hilarious
Jokic with a 26-194 record as a coach...ow.
@@PlutoTheSecond The Hue Jackson of the NBA
91,7 RPG and 6,6 PPG hahahahahahahahaha
I Imagine that guy making 40+ consecutive offensive rebounds of his own missing layups once and once again until he finally scores hahahaha
this is the correct strategy, he is just keeping the ball away from the opponent winding down the clock
Bounce it off the rim, hold it up, bounce it off the rim, hold it up - shoot a basket at the end of each quarter, 76ers win 8-0 - solid strat when you're 18 inch taller than the rest of the league. haha
What do the commas mean?
That might actually be it. That's hilarious.
I love how it feels like the game is fighting you the whole time
31:25 look at Nikola's coaching record. I can't stop laughing.
The slow head bow is just the cherry on top 😂
This was midway through his 3rd season as coach and with that record he averages like 10 wins a year 😂
Ownership just thought...”Well can you blame the guy, the league literally gives us no talent!”
5"4
40 Overall
*Welcome to philippines*
Bruh...😂😂😂😂😂😂...that ain't right
While you playing a lot of those kids are really good they are just short
Nope hahahaha im a 14 year old 5,8 pure filipino hahahaha
Really dude, I’m pretty okay at basketball (because most kids at my school are kinda trash no offense) and my coach calls me short. I’m one of the best on my team.
bruh 😂
I about died laughing at "Alphabetical dominance of the Eastern Conference."
It's true though! Bucks, Bulls, Cavs, Celtics, after the 76ers of course. The west can only counter with the Clippers and then the Grizzlies (who geographically should be in the east anyway).
@@emeraldaly7646 the clippers?
@@ucheifedigbo8272 he mentioned them
31:27 looks like jokic trying to teach a bunch of kids in warriors jerseys how to play basketball
14:40
19:02 Lance Warner, GSW
21:45 Vin Glover, 56 Overall
25:31 Newly Generated Players
27:39 All 40 Overalls
29:17 The Fumble Dimension
32:31 The 76’ers Reign of Terror
Jonathan Buckner
36:55 The NBA Has Changed
Q: Why is all of the in game footage in slow motion?
A: Because it's not. That's just how slow all of the players are.
"a court filled with borderline NBA talent... and Marvin Bagley"
38:20 the ultimate matchup: ernest cameron vs ernest cameron
i would love to see the 2 on epic rap battles of history
I bet there's a great Gatorade commercial of it.
😂
I think ernist Cameron is gonna win this one anyone wanna lay bets? Hmmmmmmm
the star player consistently missing a shot 2 feet away from his face made me lose it
The most ironic thing is that Stupid Crap Face, the man and legend who started this Crap-Fest... retired after one season! (11:08)
RIP Stupid Crap Face, his NBA career died for our sins.
He started into the league at age 40 already.
He was 40 years old when he was drafted
And they didn't even notice!
This made me inordinately sad.
The gameplay at the end is like when the Mon-Stars took all the Power from the good players in Space Jam.
Skinner McLane Honestly, that’s what I was thinking too.
“What does personal reasons mean?”
Ask Kyrie
The reason for the old-time names is because they have a very simple naming algorithm for randomly generated players. They just take a list of every in-game player’s first name and last name and randomly assign one of each to each created player. Since there are so many historical teams in the game, a lot of old names tend to pop up
My son played ball in a youth 8 years old league...it looked exactly like this
And he was 24 when he played in this league?
Yeeeeeooooo 😭😭😭
Saul Goodmang what?
Dad?
Bruh your like 5
Kevon Looney: “Aight imma head out”
He knew right away what was going on
666 likes, the basketball gods have forsaken us
Kevon Looney predicted the future
In a world gone mad, only Looney remains sane.
He should've stayed and won 16 championships 14 mvps 50 thousand points and earned a salary of 200 million a year
I love kofie trying to explain why the computer cant do the rising stars challenge and Jon pretends to not understand just so he can make a boomer joke.
60 seconds in and I just want to hug Kofie Yeboah and tell him he’s important too.
You should do the opposite of this video
7”0 y’all players
All 99 ovr
I’m curious to see how that would pan out
I wonder if any teams would go winless or undefeated..
No 7’7
@TopazHunter fumble dimension is ment to bring the worst of videogames
Brian Villatoro what about the touchdown dimension? idk
Jon did this in 2014, in his longform piece "NBA Y2K: 10 Years to Midnight" for SBNation
"On a court with borderline nba talent.. and marvin bagley." Oh my has that aged like gold LMAOOO.
This is the closest I'll ever come to knowing exactly what it would be like if I went head to head with an NBA player
Buckner with 43.6 RPG..... BOARDMAN GETS PAID
Jonathan "Chairman of the board" Buckner
And 91 rpg in finals BEAST
He really played his role as glass cleaner. And that's it literally.
😂
Dennis Rodman eat your heart out
"What are intangibles? I don't know, but he doesn't have them."
Story of my life, man.
"what are personal reasons?" "Idk. you gotta find yourself?"
He predicted Kyrie's future lol
The 91 rebounding average in the finals killed me.
Now put a 7’7” 99 OVR player on one of these teams
actually what about just 1 7'7" 40 OVR, would that make him league MVP?
@@The_RyCheu I think from height alone he'd get an absurd amount of rebounds, so yeah, I think so.
@@tomsimcox5066 i mean, that's pretty much what happened like 35mins into the video
I tried that, it breaks the game every time
he'd be putting up numbers to shame even wilt
“Welcome to the Fumble Dimension.”
“I’m Jon Bois.”
“I’m not.”
Well boys we’re in for a treat
I'm upset you guys didn't do another 10 years of this. Like who get MVP, who are champs, every season the same? Or is just equal.
this reminds me of when i threw a bunch of 99 overall clones of a 7 foot 500lb guy into the franchise mode in nfl 2k3. needless to say it had the opposite effect of this video
That's awesome
My favorite guy was on Kofie's team- Milos Dabonabitch
"I'm Jon Bois.
...
I'm not."
A MOOD
None of us are Jon Bois ☹️
LOLOLOL
This was the most real moment on CZcams. The lesson of this video may be that machines are alive, but the subtext is that SB Nation is Self Aware and trying to save us from ourselves. Also potentially that Jon Bois is an early version of the T101 and Kofie is the human sent from the future.
idk if kofie meant it like this but that felt to me like a dig at all the commenters who comment "this isn't jon bois" on every non-bois video SBNation puts out
@@scatmanfan2 100% certain he meant it that way. Well... 99.7%.
Had to sit through a long video with many basketball seasons. But the Warriors vs. Spurs with all 5'4 40 overalls was worth it. Loved the 6 second violation because the player was not fast enough to cross the line in 6 seconds.
you guys created AAU basketball. I'm impressed.
I very badly want to see a version of this where all the players are terrible except in one stat where they're amazing. See how the different AI front offices choose to draft.
The "potential" max player(s) would win every game because he'd actually improve and end up decent to good very quickly
Just one guy with level 100 fast break passing.
@@blacklite911 "He couldn't dribble, shoot, or play defense, but by god could that kid throw a cross court alley-oop pass."
Vader Minion kuroko is this u
They should enter a player that is a 41 overall.
"2021-22 season
Finals winner: Dallas Mavericks
Finals MVP: Giannis Antetokounmpo"
YOURE SAYING THERES A CHANCE?!?!?!
Maybe the Doncic - Porzingis duo will work very well
There is >:)
the fact that luka Doncic was the last player to retire is why I liked the video
Probably because he is super young
Theory: "Miscellaneous Durability" means the durability of their junk. Think about it; pretty much every other body part has a durability score, except the player's nether regions.
“What if NBA players were middle school kids?” The simulation
Maxcrss *elementary school*
Hey at least a few could actually dunk! And make it! 5'9 and 41?
Every Teiko Opponent in Kuroko no Basketball
This video is like watching a star slowly burning through all of it's fuel, seeing heaving and heavier elements pop up in the spectrograph, until it finally starts fusing iron and the whole thing expldoes in a Supernova...
Or I guess in this game it hyper-inflates from fusing carbon and just turns into a meager red dwarf...
You probably talk about potential and kinetic energy as well as simple harmonic motion during coitus.
@@ders972 bud, I see you working on your roasts on everyone with an opinion in the comments. You ain't Don Rickles.
@@YourPalJamieEllis great observation. Thank you for the feedback.
Lol
@@YourPalJamieEllis pickled orange
5"4
40 Overall
Welcome to philippines
The "personal reasons" thing is probably for situations such as a family member dying or to have time to defend a close friend in court and other things like that.
Buckner is my favorite part of the entire video. The guy was basically playing on an empty court, and he still couldn't score.
Johnathan Buckner is me. 🙃
Bruh if you don’t know who Stupid Crap Face is then you don’t know basketball I’m sorry
*Stupid Crap Face is the GOAT goddamnit*
@@armadillolover99 and Michael Jordan is a bonafide scrub compared to stupid crap face
@@thekrazyhatter5063 Made MJ quit basketball
@@tylarjones9281 by dunking on him in what was called the dunk of death
@@thekrazyhatter5063 racking-up a triple-quadruple in a single game
Came expecting an earth shattering look at how video games have ruined sports. Turned out to be a dumbass experiment I wondered about myself but never had the patience to do.
10/10 will watch again
That would be an interesting idea, though.
Two people try to murder a sports sim
"This story begins with a man named Stupid Crap Face".
90 seconds in and I'm already dying laughing.
38:25 - I would be sad too if I had been commentating for 50 years at this point and seen the way the game had just degenerated.
There are two types of people: those who are Jon Bois, and those who are not Jon Bois.
I'm not Jon Bois
@@jojorofo what a coincidence, me neither!
s j s
S A M E
I'm the tiny men in the virtual machine, hello
@@killerpanda107 OH MY GOD SAME WHAT A COINCIDENCE
The 76ers had at least a 164 game win streak? I bet Philly fans would still be pissed.
They'd be pissed they couldn't unretire LeBron
I'd take consistency any day at this point lmao
Kurtis Brakeman this is my new favorite video ever 😂😂😂
I want this reality so hard lmao.
I don't care if it kills basketball, I want this reality of 5+ years of 76ers winning the league and like 200+ game winning streak
The last bit from Jon is the first I’ve ever heard of actual southern accent.
When we say awesome with feeling we just can’t hide it can we?
Learning about folks like MVP Jonathan Buckner is why I enjoy watching long term franchise gameplay. Legends such as he deserve immortalization.
"We have finally done it. The NBA - is complete trash."
got hit with some feels right there
Didn't even take 30 years to complete!
It's kinda like what happened to freemasonry and the Christian religion in the way losers who couldn't fill the shoes of generations before....think about it 🤔
@@Zeitgeistmusic997 making up lies to control the weak minded???
@@epiccollision you're such a dimwit that you can't put context in your words. How is that lies? It's distinct enough to at worst be classified as a hot opinion. You waive your spineless shill with a w0rthless life flag boldly....and are too stupid to notice
"Trust the process" gets a whole new meaning....
@John J 76ers f*cking dominating this league with 5 straight championships!
mdc4runner lol
@mdc4runner This video game “Trust the process” worked 100x better than the actual Sixers Trust the process 😂
I think I know why no one takes the offers: they're all the best player in the draft (tied) and want a deal to reflect that
The absence due to “personal reasons” is legit what Kyrie is doing with the nets
I've never been this early to a Jon bois video before. I can bet that it's pretty good already.
Maiv I hope that “Pretty good” reference was intentional
Ehh it was good, but it wasn’t pretty good
That's a different series.
No, it's Fumble Dimension!
The mascot would probably bring a 56 overall and could dominate.
it's been three years of rewatches and "I'm Jon Bois" "....I'm not" still gets me at full force every time
Videos with Jon Bois must have near flawless retention statistics. There's something so captivating about the concepts.
“The 76er’s best play call is a brick, so that Buckner can grab the rebound and put it back in.” Lmao
Im dying at that lol
"Their potential is so low, they refuse to grow as basketball players ... and people, too." LOL! A harsh thing to say about your own digital children. There needs to be a Black Mirror episode where videogame-playing creators of athletic losers get sucked into the game and have to coach one of these hurtin' teams. At some point the players learn that their coach is also their creator, and they get revenge. Digital revenge.
Yea i swear this felt like i was watching black mirror even though i never even watched it
I love the way they are still ripping down the rebounds muscularly!
I find myself laughing at the amount of analysis over Buckner. 🤣
For a min i believed this was a review of nba2k20
I thought he was actually saying that 2K was gonna eventually make us forget how to play basketball because the NBA’s 3 PT madness an ignorance of the fundamentals started around the time 2K became popular to mainstream NBA fans.