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Let's go jets💪
Yall sleeping on Money Mills
Zach Wilson. Got the top running back and a top receiver, as well as a top tight end and a lineman that is very versatile and will be able to back up multiple positions this season
Non of it matters if the offensive line is a failure! Wilson will be on the IR.
Absolutely spot on with the comments around running backs. Smart teams will just replenish through draft to keep them cheap. Getting a good 2nd contract will be difficult for RBs unless they can prove they are legit game changers. The Patriots will always just reload at positions like that via draft and move on - rather than getting some emotional commitment and overpaying. Other teams should follow suit and not just at RB.
It’s true Mills will have to continue to prove himself since he was a 3rd Rd pick, but he was the second best rookie QB last year without a doubt. Lawrence, Wilson, and Fields got every excuse there was but Mills had just as bad a situation as those three and he played better. I’m a Jets fan no excuses here the dude showed up and he was better than Tyrod who is/was a good backup in the NFL.
Mills was great. The only QB I feel legit deserves a full mulligan is Lawrence bc of Urban.
2nd best? The 3 worst QBs were Lawrence, Wilson, fields in that order
Who was the best?
Mills didn’t have any moments that make you think he could be special
@@Daniboi971 Tom Brady
Underestimating Mills just proves that you need to look harder without bias.
Simms is on point. 49ers mortgaged the farm to take a QB last year who had not played in two years, and now three years. That better pan out.
The timing in this comment doesn't make sense
Not played in 2 years???? He's was a rookie last season. WTF are you talking about?
@@bonkcaesar9849 Lance didn’t play at all his last year of college because the FCS season was postponed
Still don't know how they didn't take Fields. If anything he was Tray Lane with consistent production in college without missing a year.
Davis Mills performed better than all those "top" guys besides Mac Jones. PFT always hating on Houston
The disrespect on Mills! The only reason these 2 don’t like him is because he isn’t a 1st round pick. Jones and Mills were the only 2 with a positive TD:INT, and Mills’s last 5 games truly showed the development he made since the start of the season, which included out-dueling Herbert and the Chargers. That was also on a roster which was considered the worst in the nfl by a lot of people.
and we were projected to go 0-17 with TYROD!
Mills definitely played good n ima a jets fan. Cook was balling!!
He’s best wr out of all the rookies options
Mills looked good. He'll be a solid starter for years to come.
Yeah Mills can play. His supporting class is very much a work in progress though
@@drkmattrrr don't know how that's possible as he went 2-4 as the starter.
Also mills was leading the league in a couple of categories. They just stay hating on Houston and it's kinda troll like
Cam Robinson took that deal because he's an average tackle at best.. His draft pedigree has made him so much money.
He was rated middle of the road last year (average). They paid him accordingly by today's market... Which is a lot of money. As a Jags fan I was hoping they'd draft Ickey or Evan Neal instead.
He would’ve got that or more if he would’ve hit open market.
He allowed 1 sack last year, a bit better than average imo
Average Tackles don't get franchised twice then extended. It has never happened, Jaguars even had a LT they drafted last year and they still extended him so you make no sense.
Got Lloyd and Muma in Jacksonville
He said that’s assuming Davis Mills is better then these other QB’s lol did he watch the Texans last year he had the most 300 yard games as rookie had highest QBR in entire league over 25 yards
He was the most ready high floor type
Gardner Minshew did the same thing...
Why doesn’t the media like talking about the Texans!?
Belechick drafted to defend against the Jets
I AM not a texans fan but why mills isnt the future? The percentage was Higher the td int ratio Also. He wasnt a 1 round só he isnt the future?
A good defense means your QB has less pressure on him to come back and win games
While that should be obvious, it doesn't seem to be to fans and pundits. Credit to these guys saying that is what Jags did - you don't need flashy names on offense when you already have them, but the fans don't get it.
davis mills had a better rookie season than all the QBs mentioned before him besides Mac lmaoo.
Tyquan thornton so underrated
CHRIS SIMMS I TOTALLY AGREE YA SPOT ON
The disrespect of Davis Mills. The only rookie QB with good stats besides Mac Jones, when he had a terrible situation last year
@@richrancy Better than low floor low ceiling like these other sophomores
Davis Mills truthers are rampant on this vid, chill bros, or pick him up on your fantasy team if you want to prove he the sauce.
@@fantasyfootballastrology4219 had nothing to do with Fantasy just look at the rookie stats last year 😂😂
@@haydenrobinson8389 keep laughing there bud you clearly ain’t picking up what I put down.
The Jets
Zach wilson
Got the number one wr
Got the number 1 rb
Got the number one TE
And a bunch of decent free agents that will help instantly.
I’m excited for these young quarterbacks to start proving themselves
Did he just say Engram was superstar talent? Holy Jesus. You're fooling yourself if you think the Jags had a good free agency. Overpaying mediocre talent aplenty. They're going to suck again this year because they haven't prioritized protecting their QB yet again, which was their main flaw last season.
I don't get how a rookie QB that was playing better than all of the other Rookie QBs by the end of the season and showed the most improvement over his rookie year is the one they say doesn't have a real chance at becoming a good NFL QB??? Like all these other QBs get all these excuses made for them but a Davis Mills that was playing with the wildly considered worst roster in the NFL, 32nd run game, bottom 5 defense, bottom 5 O-line and also I believe the 32nd ranked WR room (despite Cooks looking good) gets no excuses?? Somehow managed to look good and out dueled Justin Herbert for the win, completely outplayed Mac Jones but still lost, and had the least amount of help as any QB in the league. I get giving Lawrence a mulligan on the year but let's not act like Mills had it any easier with David Culley as a head coach either.
Trevor has no left tackle still
#1 struggling Receivers is the smaller speed guys. if its soft tissue injuries or just getting pushed around they are the boom or bust picks.. big body over 6ft wr can always use their body and be a possession type if their speed isn't on par with the nfl. Or as they age.
So davis mills was the second best rookie last year with one of the worst nfl defenses, and worst NFL running game, with only brandin cooks to throw to: He still was the second best rookie down the last 5 games, only threw 3 interceptions in 8 games, and what did the texans do?
Draft an interior o-line to help the running game to improve, draft a running back to improve, draft a slot receiver who is capable of being a release valve, and improved the defense at all 3 levels.
You knocked the jets for not investing in the o-line, but didnt really give any props to the texans for doing so when the had the worst o-line and running game last year.
make it make sense
Prepare to eat dry crow Florio/Simms! Mills is QB1 in H-town for the next decade good sir! He was the 1st pick of the Caserio Era for a reason.
Slow down a bit. He earned every right to be the starter next year but he still needs to show more growth before you can anoint him our starter for the next decade. But he definitely impressed me and as of right now I'm not gunna bet against him.
Good point on Fields the Chicago media blind and the fans
TLaw and Zach Wilson are going to have a great year.
It was talking about the jags here ok . However, I do see Lewerance improving this year cause although they have no true #1 receiver, they have enough of number #2 receiver's to succeed.
I like Tyquan Thornton but he went in the 5th round of all my mock drafts. I did several. Trading up to the 2nd for him was batshit CRAZY! It's like they got a girl 🥰 crush
Breaking news. Mike Florio thinks the jaguars draft could be criminally wrong. His civil litigation skills say so. So trust every word he says!
Mills might be the guy if you compare him to Tom Brady in his first season their isn’t much of a drifference. I get it he isn’t no Tom but the dude can play and with the 3 WR and the O line should be better and hopefully the Running backs do something this year this could be Mills team for years to come but yeah lots of pressure on him if he don’t get it done this year he probably will be replaced next year
6:44 Florio always forget Terry McLaurin was in that draft on the board as well. He's poised for a bounceback year
If Tom Brady was starting now during his reign, would they say the same about Tom Brady like Davis Mills?
Simms needs to watch film on Thorton. Dude can catch, and can get release at Los.
Fields got C,OT,G,RB,WR where is the lack of help??
Which one of those is a starter?
They didn’t need offense in the draft? Where were their offense ranked?
That boy simms is a little sus
“Evan Engram superstar talent” 😂😂😂
Cam knows what is coming in Duval. The Jags are coming!!
I love what the jets did in the NFL draft. They truly gave Zach Wilson all the weapons he needs to succeed .
They have a bunch of number #2 at receiver.. They have no true #1 receiver, don't know how much that will hurt them . I like their draft class . They have gotten better on defense with their selection of defensive players in this draft. On paper they got better .
Mills gon ball out. I miss Watson but if mills what we have gotta support him and if he’s not it then move on but i hope it works out and hopefully coaching improves
cannot wait for jags to shock everyone lol...ya'll fools aint ready boy
wait until Marcus Jones become Pats next Edelman in 2-3 years
I love Zach Wilson and think he'll be the best. I'm a jets fan. Also a Clemson fan and love Trevor. That said, they're smoking crack about Davis mills. Did they watch who he was playing with? Not to mention analysts have stated had he just stayed in school he would've been thetop QB this year.
As far as my Jets go!!! Mike White should be the starter!
Chris Simms is the most honest intelligent sports analysis out there i love to here his take on things!!!
Yeah, but he needs to put some respect on Davis Mills name.
Not by far
Tyquan Thornton is the next Heyward-Bey
Exactly your guy Dan Bernstein has already begun laying the groundwork to turn on JF. The bottom line is in today’s nfl when you have a blue chip young qb you build around him not your mlb. Do better!
Idk why Chris Simms is even talking that dude was a bust at Texas and a Bust in the NFL. The only reason he is who he is .is bc of his dad.
Zachary Kapono Wilson
future star
Wtf is a kapono
@@bobjinessr7957 his middle name
Spoken as two guys who never seen Tyquan Thornton play, talking about issues catching. He had 3 drops last season and he’s a hand catcher. Lol.
More often then not superbowl winning teams are well rounded on all three phases. I'm calling it now the jaguars and trevor lawrence are going to surprise people
I sure hope so. There’s nowhere to go but up
I'm not getting my hopes up yet. I think their record will be better than last year for sure. I feel like they have a lot of good pieces to the puzzle but I'm waiting to see if they can all mesh well and put it together during the game and whole season
Yall need to stop saying Travon Walker's name synonymously with Myles Garrett. Garrett was a generational talent, Walker is a freak athlete. You can't just safely assume that he's gonna ball out like Garrett. Garrett checked all the boxes coming out of college. Stop acting like there is a low amount of risk with walker
Go get a job in an nfl front office if you know so much.
Jags defense has everything to be elite again, we could very easily end up with the best linebacker core in the league, I absolutely love our draft class , very excited for the future
Sacksonville 2.0
Oh come off it
They drafted #1 guy based purely on a combine... dude had 9.5 sacks in 3 years in one of the most dominant defense while having 1 on 1 match ups most of the time.. this has Tony Mandarich written on it all over again.
Lloyd yes i agree. Walker gives me soloman thomas vibes
@@DenisTheMenaceMMA well look at Jordan Davis
Jags
12 mill dead cap in ex linebackers
Sign LB in free agency (paid in top 5)
Signed 3 linebackers with first 4 picks in the draft
Defence was ranked 20th
Offense ranked 27th
defence gets all the resources but Trevor still has no centre, left guard, right tackle (Taylor is a liability) and no wr1 . They have 4 or 5 WR3s on the team though.
Everyone following Simms logic on how Trevor Lawrence got helped this off season?
Jags drafted a center in rd 3…
All about General Mills! He was one of the great rookies of last season. He balled OUT! Had he stayed in school he would have been taken in the top ten this season. Last year was his “senior” season. This season, look out. The Texans are a year away, but they WILL give some headaches to some teams this year.
Love the confidence, but Mills is Minshew 2.0. He will be a back up by the midway point of the season.
@@deezymon he is like Minshew with a better arm. Minshew with a better arm is a top 15 quarterback in the NFL.
Did he just call zay jones and evan engram elite? I want some of whatever drugs he’s taking!
The Bears have done nothing to help Fields succeed. The 49ers have their best player holding out and a QB controversy. Who would have guessed the Jets and the Jags would be the franchises actually building around their young QBs?
Not me n I'm diehard jets fan...This was very unlike the jets
Yeah the Bears suck and Fields is going to get killed this year, becuase the clowns didnt draft anyone to help him out.
Niners are ok Lance has a ton of weapons and as of now is inheriting a team that make NFC Championship game last 2 outta three years. Samuel will get paid and if he doesn’t then they still have Aiyuk Kittle Jennings etc.
I'm hoping the new Bears regime knows what they're doing. Fields is good. He made some rookie mistakes but he needs protection to be able to throw. I'm not convinced the front office has done enough and made the right choices this off season
ARE YOU SMOKIN METH???? THEY HAD A TOP TEN DEFENSE LAST YEAR WITH THE WORST CB2 AND SS IN THE NFL..... THEY JUST DRAFTED A SHUT DOWN CB IN KYLER GORDON AND A SHUTDOWN BALLHAWKING SAFETY IN BRISKER 2 1ST ROUND TALENTS.... SO THEY'LL HAVE A TOP 5 DEFENSE AND MEANING JUSTIN FIELDS WON'T NEED TO COMEBACK IN GAMES OR SCORE 100 POINTS BECAUSE HIS DEFENSE WON'T ALLOW MANY POINT YOU MORON LEARN HOW FOOTBALL WORKS!!!! 🤦🏿♂️
The jags helped Trevor out?! We need an o-line to protect him. Plus one that doesn’t commit penalties. SMH
Drafted a center, signed the top guard in FA, resigned the LT, and have Little from last year that will step into the line up, hopefully at RT. Only extra thing they could have done was maybe get another guard.
walker little will replace jawaan taylor and we got a arguably top 3 linemen in FA and we got a good center in the draft to replace brandon linder
@@CollinPope facts he’s clueless
Yeah definitely haven't been paying attention
Jags O-line will improve when the offense isn’t forced to throw 80% of the time because the team is losing by 20 points at halftime.
I think Chris is confused about Thornton, if he weighs 200+ he’s a top 20 lock. But also this is not 2013, do you have to be a big bodied guy out wide in a league that doesn’t let you touch receivers?
"I don't sense that the Bears are going all in on Offense, Defense is trash, nobody needs it, and Bears fans in particular don't like defense"
It's like these fools know nothing about the Chicago Bears fans.
Yeah we do but we would like to step into the the 21st century and have a functional offense . Our offense was way more awful than the defense
Would not have ever classified Chase Edmunds as great, especially not 5 years in
None of those WRs is a true #1
I think the. Bears left. Fields dangling in the wind with the draft. I like the. Bears but they never were really noted for great quarter backs so ....
Evan engram superstar talent lmaooo
They don't have a clue when it comes to the Bears
He didn't get to do that in college? Does that mean that the Georgia coaching staff was incompetent and didn't know how to use him correctly? If Walker is Lawrence Taylor or Derrick Thomas, then you need to find a way to get the most out of him.
i can rely on chris simms to give some knowledgeable analysis.
What a shocker the patriots draft WR that can’t catch just like n keal harry can’t catch
what makes you think he can't catch?
He looks like a stud to me
Bears just tried to draft a player at each position.
I look forward to the Jets playing the Jags.
Duuuuuuval!!!
the davis mills disrespect… he had the best rookie season along with mac jones. mills had a way better rookie season than trevor lawrence!
Wouldn’t jalen hurts qualify as a sophomore?
Cam took the deal because he loves the team and he loves this city. Cam is an underrated LT.
According to who? The guy was a 1st round pick. If he was a 3rd rounder he would be off the team
@@cesaresaladandthespicycrou4080 no tf he wouldn’t he earned his deal goofy
@@jauntewade1946 last year was Robinsons best year. He had a 67pff grade. That is 7 points higher than Chicago bears 4th round rookie Larry borum. He is an average at best.
@@cesaresaladandthespicycrou4080 gave up 1 sack and he would’ve got paid way more on the open market that facts.
@@jauntewade1946 he had 31 pressures in 14 games. It's about a pressure ever 13 snaps assuming a 50 50 run to pass
Mills and love Smith sound like a odd success story
Why did the Patriots and 49er's draft QB's 😄😄😄
Totally underestimate Mills.
You guys need to stay behind the mic. Because your eyes for talent is severely lacking .
BOY YOU DONT KNOW FOOTBALL IF YOU DONT MIKE WALLACE
Fields isn’t the guy. So glad Denver passed.
And Perron Winfrey? 😂 huh sims
All these bears fan angry at these two for speaking the truth. If they are wrong you could talk about how poles made the offense better. Instead of just slandering them
evan ingram superstar?
LOL
It's hard to listen to simms critique other quarterbacks. He was horrible. Don't get how quarterbacks who weren't about anything should be taken serious.
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the jags had a bad draft, because they drafted a defensive tackle, when they should have drafted an OT, lol when can Robinson fucks up, and y'all are drafting in the top 3, cause you didn't protect your qb.
Jags drafted 2nd rnd OT Walker Little from Stanford in 2021
I have a strong feeling that Trevor going have a horrible time in the NFL because God loving &fearing individual athletes have not been successful look at T.Tebow they deliberately gave him a taste of success offering make him a superstar just forget about Jesus & God can’t thank them or say his name he said no & less 2 years later out of the league Trevor hasn’t been as out spoken as Tebow was but he’s going have make a choice see how his career plays out either he becomes a star or back up or bust I wouldn’t sell out for $ hopefully he’s strong in his faith
Walker is not a guarantee. Myles Garret popped off in college with trash around him. Walker was quiet in college with other Top NFL prospects around. Walker right now is more likely to be a bust than to be a star in the league. Ultimately we just have to wait and see though.
Hutch will be a bust before walker guaranteed.
Think he's going to be very good. Might not be a star cause if he were, wouldn't the Georgia coaches put him in a position to make Big plays? The scouts say the coaches had walker holding the point and diagnosing the play. But if he were an exceptional pass rush
...er , he'd be On the attack.
He has a very high floor so I can’t see how people think he’s a bust
@@TruthLC Especially with Josh Allen on the other I say it's gonna be plenty of meet me @ the QB
Dude get off McCowns nuts 🤣 lovies a good coach and as it looks like in the draft they were insync. You are still on the mindset of the cully situation. My opinion get over it. It happened. Dude got paid big money 💰. Always a texans hater lol.
6:21 I love Mac Jones with those 35 INT he threw last season
Double check Google. Way off
Travyon walker will be one of the biggest busts of all time ...stop it simms
You’re clueless
Evan engrahm superstar Chris? 😂
superstar talent meaning the ability to be great
Maybe, just maybe he wasn't a good fit for the giants. Pederson is known for his use of TEs in the passing game. He'll get his opportunities. Superstar? We'll see.
Bears gave Justin and offense 3× the resources last yr and this.
Last year the bears spent multiple 1dt rd picks on the offense what do you mean not trying to do something to help offense? Its time to invest in the d every other yr smart teams allocate to resources to the other side of the ball.
Bears hired a defensive HC because it's what you build around a poor passer elite running QB. Throw all the elite wr at them that you want it don't change anything. see ravens!
The future vision is obvious they are going after building an elite d they picked right a CB & Saftey.
What elite receivers did the ravens have?
@@YOBLACKHOMIE1 shit the ravens have spent so much hi draft capital and money on wr the few years it ain't even an excuse anyone makes anymore.
Hollywood settled that one bra.
Lamar is awesome and it's ok that he can't help how side arm he is. It makes for curveball that's just hard to track and catch.
He makes up for it. Elite traits come at the expense of other traits. Its like how the blind gains super human hearing.
Its cool having stylistic different competition although its not enough players like this to make many team play this way year after year.
@@YOBLACKHOMIE1 but still the hard evidence says Lamar choked more in the playoffs than Jimmy g has. Jimmy elevated other players while Lamar style of play is selfish by default. It always makes other players look bad as if the RB QB is the only good player on the offense. Its an illusion of cause and effect.
Obviously Lamar isn't selfish he's great young man but his skill set and failures to execute the as written pass is .failure to see open receiver causes to tuck and run and he turns that into successful plays.
@@YOBLACKHOMIE1 its unfair to say that everytime Lamar makes a play and the sports media has to say his name. Even though it's true its no reason to defame the great play in moments.
@@YOBLACKHOMIE1 my bad thought it was a separate conversation but still true statement based on the field actions of Lamar. Ravens will be good again with him back and with them going back to what they are good at.
Zach Wilson will be a bust. Too bad
Haha, another guy who can see into the future
Iam sure Zach Wilson says that about you too
He just call Justin Fields a “superstar” QB? Ha ha. More like super bust.
Looks like you didn't listen to anything that was said, or don't take football seriously enough to understand that situation. So your opinion is totally irrelevant 👍
Do you even pay attention or just going to hate anyways?
@@dannyquilter8366
He did call Fields a superstar QB. Did you hear that?
@@winstonsyme5899 I'm referring to your dumbass immediately calling him a bust. I really wanna know what level your comprehension is at. Cause you're either focusing on one irrelevant word, or you're genuinely dumb
yea dude you’re slow