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- čas přidán 25. 04. 2024
- On episode 254 of McRae Live, we talk about the news that a prequel to Rosemary's Baby is on the way from Paramount Plus, and the obsession fandom has with prequels.
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And I meant to say your point about Polanski not showing the baby is one of the best examples of theatre of the mind there is. It cannot be beaten as your imagination works wae more than seeing it especially in a situation like that. You are fucking spot on. Another reason most horror films suck these days as we don't see that in movies anymore. The first omen is actually a prime example of this but I won't spoil it for you.
Dave you Rock I Enjoy Everything you do. 😀 Keep up the Awesome work
The Thing(2011) is a prequel to the 1982 classic; I enjoyed it but not sure why it had to be connected. This was clearly another case of using name recognition to help drive interest. There wasn’t anything unanswered from the original that made it necessary. I realize the title doesn’t indicate prequel certainly helped with marketing.
I see. Its like studios dont trust they have a good film, so they slap a known property name to get people to go see it. Good point. I agree.
The problem as I see it, is that these films would never get made unless they were connected to existing IP. Like you said, it's called show-BUSINESS. We might just have to live with them doing this.
Thank God no one decides to remake classic songs/albums lol..other than covers..imagine ppl trying to make a Sgt Pepper part 2 for sales
We need origalnality
Your absolutely correct Dave!!
Totally agree with nothing compares to ur imagination smile came to mind it was set up so good with tension then it shows the demon at the end that we never should have saw atleast to see a shadow of it or barelly make out what it looks like instead of that goofy design they came up with . It made me frown
Translation: a legacy prequel to start a new trilogy
Hey Dave! I had the wierd experience of seeing The First Omen a week after seeing Immaculate; sitting in the same seat and watching on the same screen at my local cinema. It felt like watching two films from the same script! I enjoyed both films, but The First Omen felt like Immaculate reworked to be an Omen film. In your experience, would that be possible? I always thought scripts got locked down pretty tight once purchased.
Dave I thought u made a great point in asking why don't they remake the bad movies? The way I see that is they could make the necessary corrections along w their own ideas and turn out a much better version of the original bad movie. Great point.
That’s an interesting point about how a prequel might make you think differently about the original. Would a sequel do the same thing? For instance, when I watch the original Halloween I never think of Michael and Laurie being related, even though I have no problem accepting that plot point in H2 and the later sequels. I wonder if it’s easier to ignore backstory that’s introduced in a sequel than it is in a prequel… 🧐
Bring back some of the original cast
Dave do you make podcasts? If yes let us know. Your a perfect Podcaster ❤
What do you mean does he make podcasts?
I always saw Rosemary's baby as a prequel to the Omen
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At this point, everything Hollywood is doing is totally predictable. Maybe machines are running it all like in that 1985 Demons film. "SMASH EVERYTHING! SMASH EVERYTHING!"
I’ve never even seen Rosemary’s Baby. 😬 🫤 🤷🏼♂️ 😌
Hey Dave, hope all is well. There’s one point you made that I don’t understand your thinking about. I very well could be missing something, but when you say you’re confused about why they’re making this prequel and you say it’s unnecessary and why don’t they just make their own movie unattached to Rosemary’s Baby, isn’t it a similar situation to your IMB project? One could say that you didn’t have to connect your movie to Black Christmas in the same way. Unless your movie NEEDS to be connected to it, and you have a legitimate passion driven story that builds on/off of the original. Why not assume this prequel stems from the same place as your project? I know you mentioned being in a prickly mood, but seems a bit judgmental and hypocritical, again, unless I’m missing something. I swear I’m not trying to be all nom nom nom. Just feels like, I don’t know, I must be missing something.
I can understand why you'd feel that way in principle, but I don't feel there's anything hypocritical here.
It's important that when embarking on making a prequel or sequel, that it has a strong reason for existing. I have yet to see any evidence for this prequel to exist. Who exactly is this for? I recently came to discover that the film was shot in 2022, and then shelved. It's had some production issues.
With our Black Christmas films, they were designed from the ground up by people who understand what made the original so great. Both IMB films are tribute legacy sequels to showcase what Bruce and I can do as filmmakers yes, but to also help bring awareness to one of the most important horror films in the genre, to celebrate a Canadian staple and iconic horror film. We have a strong grasp of the material, its backstory and how a sequel should moved forward. It would be nice if every studio released sequel or prequel had the same kind of care and love that we've put into the IMB films.
It was also vital that we preserved as much of the mystique and integrity of the ambiguity of the original as we could. One way we did this, for example, was to deliver a product full of authenticity. In other words, a film that feels like it lives and breathes in the same universe in style and tone. A natural extension of the original.
Every horror prequel or sequel has a chance to be great, but so much love and passion from the ground up must be there for it to truly succeed and resonate with fans. As I've said, it should have a strong reason for existing. Is there more to tell? Does it feel authentic? Or is it simply cashing in on name recognition?
I'm ready to be proven wrong with Apartment 7A.
@@DaveMcRaeOfficial that’s very interesting that it was shot and shelved 2 years ago, huh. But whose to say that these filmmakers don’t have the same passion and knowledge of the original, as you and Bruce do for Black Christmas? It makes sense that you feel that way due to the lack of evidence, but the default shouldn’t be to swing so far the other way. There very well could be tons of passion and genuine care behind it, even though it’s not projected out to the public.
Personally I agree that it doesn’t need a prequel or a sequel (though if I had to pick, a sequel would be more interesting to me than a prequel to Rosemary’s Baby), but I have no worries about it either way. If it’s good, then thank goodness they went for it, and if it’s bad block it out of your mind. I have no trouble ignoring Halloween Ends while watching Halloween 1978.
@@The0ct Remember, I am not suggesting that the filmmakers behind Apartment 7A do not have the same passion or knowledge. That's not what I'm saying at all. I was not making it personal, but rather speaking generally based on the mountain of evidence of how these things usually go. There are always exceptions to the rule.
Apartment 7A, unlike IMB, are studio produced films with many decisions made by committee. Bruce and I (for all intents and purposes) ARE the studio, and because of that, are able to make creative decisions with limited roadblocks more easily. With studio films, there's far more room for creative and production roadblocks that can arise. It's far harder to deliver the goods. But it can be done.
In the right hands, with a clear unobstructed vision, all prequels and sequels can be great. But most prequels and sequels are not. And there's a variety of reasons for it.
@@DaveMcRaeOfficial Fair enough. The “fact” that most sequels and prequels don’t satisfy most people does, in probability terms, indicate that it more likely will be disappointing I suppose. I guess it’s just a personal preference thing. Having the gluttony of sequels and prequels and spin offs out there is more worth it for me to have the good ones exist.
Prequel to Rosemary’s Baby? “Rosemary’s Dating”.
Dave, they can't call this prequel Rosemary's Baby...so what's it going to be? My vote: The Offering!
Apt 7A sounds so generic
You made some really good points in this one Dave. But you're a smart guy when you were talking about the first omen I do agree with you to an extent why connect it if it's good? Well the only reason I watched it was because it was connected. Am a huge fan of the omen from 76 it's amazing. I would never have watched the first omen if it was called something else am just not interested in those type of films generally. Like watching the Nun or something. They know they will get a bigger box office receipt with using the brand. Same with this rosemary baby prequel. And the first omen was quite good but not as good as people are making out. Imo the standards have dropped so much and that's why it's getting rave reviews. It's ok. But I think you know this. It's really not necessary I won't watch the omen now going oh that makes more sense. I agree I wish they wouldn't do this shit as it smells of desperation for box office success. Make something great and trust in it .
I don:t have Paramount+ so I will not know what it will be like . But I Hope it will be good .
At first I thought that this was about the girl who jumped out the window, but she lived with the casstevetes not next door so the only connection is that mrs casstevet said the girl who lived there before rosemary was a dear friend of hers, but I agree that this is unnecessary hopefully it will be good tho
Does the dancer become pregnant? Is that the connection? And Dave posed my next question, "Was it the same older couple"? That was involved with the tenant in that apartment?
Yea, this just reeks of trying to get some brand recognition, which I'm not sure is even any kind of net positive at the end of the day. I think it immediately induces eyerolls from a lot fans right out the gate, and anyone who wasn't a fan of Rosemary's Baby, it's not going to draw them in. If anything, all they've done is put this extra pressure on themselves to deliver something even remotely in the ballpark of quality of the original, and history isn't kind to a lot of those movies.
So It ends with rosemary peeing on a stick?
I think it's an interesting movie to do a prequel to. I never heard of the movie Rosemary's Baby until I heard you mention it. If these people think they have a story to tell, then I said let 'em. I'm not trying to argue with anyone but I don't think anyone asked for a BC sequel and people supported it because you had a story to tell. Who knows, maybe this can lead the example of how to do a proper prequel.
A dancer? Suspiria much? Look, I’d like nothing more than for it to be a worthy movie but it just won’t be. I’m a realist. It’s a cash-grab. Just like I projected the Blumhouse Exorcist movie would suck-and I was right-this one will flop too. Leave alone the classics and make new ones. Plus, if this movie isn’t in the theaters, it doesn’t count as valid for anything. Keep movies on the big screen, let the little players play on the little screens.
Rosmarys baby has nothing to do with any other cult film it stands alone and will never have a prequel unless it has the original writer. using the name of another movie calling it a prequel with none of this is a false reanactment fan film just for scam for advertiseing or probly some feminist pound land remake rip off sell out crap that shouldn't be aloud look how the ruined suspiria it's going to be some women empowerment rubbish that is going to trash the original
THE FIRST OMEN is just a remake of ROSEMARY’S BABY. Same structure, same ideas, just a different setting. Watch it, and tell me otherwise. I thought it was well-made, but I really cannot give it points for lifting so much from a classic, as if we wouldn’t notice.