Longboarding: New Zealand Police
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- čas přidán 27. 11. 2012
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"How is it disorderly what I'm doing?" "Because it is" sounds like my parents logic lol
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I hate people like that. They don't listen to what others have to say, they make up their own rules and they DO NOT prove that what you are doing is wrong.
I call abuse of your authority on those police officers
yes but he should of been like yes sir ok sir, and then go do it really early in the morning LOL! like street racers or any person practicing this kinda shit
The police do make a good point.
It is a very busy road with people going 100km/h up the hill. If they slid out and went onto the other side of the road they would be scrapping them off the road with shovels. They managed to get one good run in and it looked like they were going to send them off with a warning.
At the end of the day the police officer has probably had to go to many parents and has had to tell them there child had died in a road accident and if he had not have told them to stop then the media would have said why did they let them continue. His hands were tied.
Many people have had accidents on this hill, its not the safest and it looked like it was a busy time of day.
GracefulWalrusPK On several occasions, the riders were in violation of Section 11.1, subsection (3) of the Land Transport (Road User) Rule 2004.
The cops weren't making up their own rules.
Matt D that is open to interpretation, the document you refer to is here: www.nzta.govt.nz/resources/rules/docs/road-user-consolidation.pdf and it simply states they must stay left on a roadway. The police were stating they were not allowed on the road at all, which is simply a lie.
Richard Vowles There's no interpretation to it. The law states states "A pedestrian or driver of a mobility device or a wheeled recreational device using the roadway must remain as near as practicable to the edge of the roadway."
At times in this video they are almost crossing the double yellow lines in the middle of the road (and riding two abreast). At others, they are riding down the middle of the lane. That is not keeping as near as practicable to the edge.
Also, if that road is classified as a motorway or expressway, then what the officer said was correct, as all pedestrian, animal and cycle traffic is prohibited on them anyway.
The cops can't stop you riding on the road because under the NZ transportation act skateboards and that includes longboards are classed as wheeled recreational vehicles which means they can be used on the roads just like a bicycle which is also classed as a wheeled recreational vehicle
Longboarders can slow down really fast. It's called Sliding.
oh really?
Aussie Skate Crew yea
Motor vehicles and bicycles have braking systems, actual braking systems as required by law for all road vehicles. I don't believe 'sliding' qualifies as a braking system, which means skateboarding and longboarding on the road are probably illegal on that point alone no matter how fast they can stop, nor how the boarder argues.
cswvna This is an interesting approach. I mean if you can stop faster than a car you should be legal. Problem is that it's not the board that mainly defines braking distance but the owner... Maybe a sort of certification could solve the legal part: you can stop fast and safe = you have a permit to use the road. You can't? Stay on the sidewalk. But this leads to another problem: sidewalk size and quality.
***** I think you miss the point of a fully controllable braking system. Motor vehicles and bicycles can apply, release, and feather their brakes to control their speed, and unless the driver or rider messes up they do not compromise their line to do it.
When a longboarder goes into a braking slide they must first swing to one side or the other, commit themselves to the slide, and once they do they have NO CHOICE but to ride it to a standstill. They have no control over the rate of braking, and little control over their line while doing so. And every time they do they need to keep their bodies low to the ground which compromises their visual presence, making it much harder for motorists to see and avoid them.
Also, in the moments after a longboarder stops they are a sitting duck for the traffic around them, forcing others to evade, which invalidates the 'safe' part of your 'stop fast and safe' argument. These reasons are why no-one in charge of making or enforcing the road laws will ever make longboarding legal on the roads, no matter what arguments and self-justification longboarders give.
In the U.S a police officer has to by law state their name and badge number if someone asks. I didn't think that'd be different anywhere else.
+naomi trowell
It depends on the State. _Federal_ law does not apply in such cases. In most European cases, you _DO NOT_ have to identify yourself specifically when making an arrest. The generic term "Police" is sufficient. In the rest of the world, they can do what they fucking like; so watch out.
I think police officers should be able to state which exact law the accused broke and how they broke it
+"Once There Was An Ugly Barnacle, He Was SO Ugly That Everyone Died, the end" -Patrick Pinhead Star
So you think this has nothing to do with public safety?
+Adam Mangler I didn't say that. I'm just saying you can't arrest someone and not be able to tell them why. But if I had to say something, they wouldn't be mindlessly zooming through the streets if they didn't know what they were doing.. So there's no danger, other than a driver that could panic
And I think the job of police is not to be lawyers who get into the legislation, but use their power to keep the roads safe and the users of it safe, by enforcing the powers given to them by legislation, even if its a murky grey area. Don't argue with the police, argue it with a judge and lawyer.
and the next time a different cop decides he does not like skating you are back to square one. Cops need to know the law.
***** But they do not need to know every clause to the tee. They do know, however, that they have to power to enforce road safety, eg keeping certain users off certain roads.
That officer was just being discriminatory towards these boarders. It is just as legal to skate as it is to cycle on the street as long as you aren't causing problems for others using the roads as well, and yielding the right of way. From the video, there were no cars behind you waiting on you, nor were you taking up both lanes making it dangerous for cars on the other side...Legally, you guys were all good to ride.
It's like saying a cyclist can't ride their bike in the street…thats what i told the cop that pulled me over with my friends and he just said true okay and just left lol
Look, I respect cops, but when he says "How is it obstructing" and the cop responds "Cause it is" is real funny to me. It like a parent saying don't do this because you shouldn't.
+Snakeassassin563 His is acting like a parent because the skaters are acting like bad children. NO ONE is allowed to use any means of transport in such way that it is dangerous to themselves or others. Also, the attitude of the skaters (towards authority) and most of the comments! Just like babies! "My way or the highway." You want to take over public roads for your own private use. I see skaters in a whole different way now.....
+Rich Tanner well, I mean you got a better place for us to go. and I never said of it was wrong or not. just that it's funny
Snakeassassin563
Saying "it's funny" shows a lack of respect for the police. Fail...
It's not against the law to skate there. But if you guys memorized the exact law and what it says I'm sure it would be much more helpful.
Juanof Lucas NZTA: 'Unpowered vehicles.There are requirements on where and how you can use them.
On the road, you must keep as close as possible to the edge of the roadway [THEY WERE ALMOST ACROSS THE CENTERLINE AT MANY POINTS.'
On the footpath:you must ride carefully and be considerate of others on the footpath 'WRECKLESS IDIOTS WERE ALL OVER THE ROAD.you must not ride at speeds that put other footpath users at risk 'WHAT SPEED DO YOU THINK HE WAS GOING?'you must give way to pedestrians and drivers of mobility vehicles.
+Jonty Hare when were they almost across the centre line? they were kinda close, but only when there were no cars or they were riding side by side which would have made it unsafe for them to go further left. honestly seems like fairly safe riding to me, as they said their riding was no different to how im sure many cyclists go down the same road
Jonty Hare mate, you’re on drugs😂
Lol the cops are telling then to go, but it's a public street so they can stay all they want. If I was them I would defiantly say I'll go to court!
Well thats not right. Technical a longboard is not a vehicle by Traffic-code, since it lacks brakes and lights. So it really is illegal to use it on public streets like that, but who cares ^^
KillEmAllWithMetal but longboards can stop as fast as a bike by sliding. And where i live, longboards are currently under the same road laws as bikes.
Well, it's legal here in england, no ones got a problem with it except the police, why aren't they fighting crimes instead of stopping longboarders doing what they love.
Telling the police you'll take it to court is a retarded thing to do. Don't get smart to a police officer, because they can make your life far worse than you can make theirs. Always be polite, and for god's sake, listen to them and don't talk back, even if you plan to fight it later.
and then gone to jail :)
That's like saying you can't walk on a public road
Do you know what Jaywalking is?
Hayley Ward
A bullshit law that no one follows
Sir Pooch Still a law
Hayley Ward not in england
Ruben Loosmore Is this video about England?
he was a terrible police officer...
If I were the police I wold say good job because I wouldn't have the guts to go down that hill
This gets better and better every time i watch it
I feel like the cop was just being a jerk from the start, he walks up and calls them idiots.
34 years on the force and only a Senior Constable. Evidently a reason for that!
if i was you i would ride the road again. and then the cops would get in shit for arresting you for no reason
" Bad boys watcha want, watcha want, watcha gonna do?
When sheriff John Brown come for you? "
Even if somehow they were doing something illegal the cops could have handled it a lot better they just decided to act like pricks from the very beginning.
in the USA they would have been run off the road by the cops and the shot.
+Samuel Scott, shut up kid, you have no idea what you're saying.
+Elijah Gazman I was being sarcastic. It is a joke based on how violent the police systems in the USA have gotten.
+Samuel Scott You're ignorant
Crunchie one word mate, Awesome.
I hate this type of thing soo much. I live in a town that is filled with drugs, vandalism, peoples houses occasionally getting burnt down, brake in's, and yet i get yelled at for holding a longboard. And yes i have been yelled at for literally only holding a longboard. And for sliding my fingers across a fence at the baseball field in the park near my house. Police could be putting their efforts towards much more serious causes yet still waste time to yell at innocent people...
boo fucking hoo
The 9th Raven
i agree with you, cops are very agressive torwards us.
Legally you are allowed to record police when they confront you, so I love it when he tried to grab your camera and I also liked how he didn't provide his name which he is required to do by law if you were to ask which you did.
Legally the Police officer is incorrect. The NZTA website says
"Skateboards and scooters are legally defined as wheeled recreational devices. Bicycles with wheels less than 355mm are also included.
While usually powered by foot or gravity they can be fitted with motors up to 300 watts. If you do fit a motor, your 'device' then becomes a motor vehicle, which means you must register and license it. It also means that you'll need a driver licence to use it.
Using your wheeled recreational device
While you may need a driver licence to operate a motorised wheeled recreational device, they are not required to have a warrant of fitness or registration. But there are requirements for where and how you can use them:
On the road, you must keep as close as possible to the edge of the roadway.
On the footpath:
you must ride carefully and be considerate of others on the footpath
you must not ride at speeds that put other footpath users at risk
you must give way to pedestrians and drivers of mobility vehicles."
I've only done this once in my entire life, it's the scariest feeling in the world. I do recommend doing this once you've grown comfortable riding your longboard down hills and on roads with traffic.
"im not making my own rules, im just telling you, you can't do it"
Breaking the law of "disagreeing with an elderly policeman."
A serious offence in any country.
you guys are fantastic
ahh the amount of times iv had this argument with drivers/cops...
Omfg this is so hilarious. My favourite part was when the Police was like, 'you see that "Police"?' 5:14 Wow. Just. Wow. Hahahahaha!
I love you guys! :D
"no eats not eats lewdeecrus" haha that was my favorite part
Same thing happens in my town. Biggest pet peeve.
"Why is it?". "Because it is"..... speechless
Love it!
geez at least they weren't boy racing and doing burnouts!. They seemed like sensible young boys, who were wearing all the correct protective gear, following the rules of the road, not acting like idiots or harming other drivers!. no different to cyclists imo.
Theres many ways to stop a longboard you can slide or simply put your foot down or install longboard breaks
because it is. haha
We'll I guess if you don't know what long boarders are actually capable of people can mistake them for dangerous I guess. Also if you skateboard and a cop drives by there gonna stop and see what's up. In the community skateboarders have a profile of being bad. And old people hate them the most. So this video doesn't surprise me. But also sweet run. U guys went pretty fast.
What was the song on the old video you posted but is now deleted?
Is anyone able to tell what the song is at the beginning of the video, or who it is by? I really like it.
Shazam didn't help and I couldn't find anything in the other comments (just people bagging cops).
lol @ 5:21 "iiiii'm not making my rurrr rules"
I don't know what the law is in New Zealand, but here in Canada you have to supply your name and badge number to anyone who asks. Ironically, he was the only one here breaking the law.
Andrew Campbell They were breaking the law, people who say there are not do not understand the law. You also have to supply them with the info or be arrested.
Depending on the place, thats not true. If you verbally communicate to the officer that you wish to remain silent, in some places you then have the right to do so. In other places you only have to make you name and no other information known to the police. Additionally, you can ask the police if you are being detained. If you are, you're required to stay. If not, you're free to go. I think that it is you who does not understand the law.
Andrew Campbell This is in New Zealand and I ma a Kiwi. You HAVE to supply you name and address here or be arrested until you identity can be proven. Then you would probably be done for wasting police time.
Well I wasn't talking about New Zealand was I mate?
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typical police judge jury lawmakers on the spot arrogance- loved your footage
Is this that hill going down toward Albany Village from Coatesville?
What board do you recommend
Yo, you should've stood right in front and behind their squad car and waited until they answered your questions. You shouldn't have listened to them telling you to leave since they had no legal reason.
wait wasn't there a law in nz that disallow skate boarding on the road if the police deems it unsafe? if im not mistaken it is the law the police might now know the exact name of the that law but it does exist so ya as a skater you should too right?
Who is the first song? I love it!
because it is
LOL they can't stop you skating on the road. Long-boards are classed as vehicles in NZ.
Laurie Williams Incorrect. They're actually classed as unpowered and 'you must not ride at speeds that put other users at risk'. Source: NZTA and Land Transport Act.
+Jonty Hare That would be a slow speed. Riding at the speed limit if you're as experienced as these guys is the safest way to ride down a hill.
I think they were concerned for your safety roads are dangerous places . plenty of videos on here of dudes longboarding into cars and trucks check them out . lots of motorcyclists and cyclists brain dead in beds and wheel chairs living the dream . Go hard .
From the comments I've seen I need to go to Hawaii XD rides to the tops of hills, free lunches, respect signs ect. It sounds brilliant!
Netsky - When Darkness Falls
Omfg...this actually enrages me. How did he stay so calm...I'd lose my shit.
id love to see him do that in the states, our cops are actually pretty nice compared to others rounds the world.
what boards do you guys have
I wouldn't have been able to remain composed, I would've flipped shit then got back on my board
Did you file a complaint to the police department/ and goverment official where you can properly report this what has happened?
I was once stopped by a cop that had received a complaint about me skating. He apologized and asked politely to move somewhere else to keep the resident happy. So I did, if only all cops were this nice then we wouldn't have so much hate for them. Since it's New Zealand law that skateboards are legal on the road then they had no right to threaten arrest but they have the right to ask you to move and similarly you have the right to stay but it's always better to move if asked imo.
"it´s against the law bc i say it", he couldn´t even explain him why exactly or show him the paragraph
and these guys are called cops
i´m sure he´s right and he also knows what he´s doing
but he should be able to explain the 19year old exactly why he breaks the law here and not getting annoyed or angry
otherwise he should prob take another course
"show him the paragraph" you can't carry around every "paragraph," if you did there wouldn't be any space in the car for offenders
Land Transport (Road User) Rule 2004, Section 11.1, subsection (3).
That's what the rider's were breaching on numerous occasions.
Matt D i´m not interested in the paragraph.
AdurxIsd No, you people never are. You just want to paint the cops as the bad guys.
AdurxIsd Well, ignorance of the law is no excuse if you break it. So you SHOULD know the law in your country / state.
Though your comments prove you're probably too young to be let out of a stroller yet, so you might have a decade or so before you're old enough for the law to affect you.
However, my point was that they were breaking the law. The cop doesn't have to tell a person exactly which section they're breaking to make it the law.
that hill tho.... drool....
What pricks. You know they were soooo jelly
There are some key points hereFirstly this video was shot in New Zealand and New Zealand laws apply.Section 114 of The Land Transport Act (New Zealand statute) states "(3) An enforcement officer may require the driver of a vehicle that is stopped under this Act to-(a) remain stopped for as long as is reasonably necessary for an enforcement officer to obtain the particulars referred to in paragraph (b), or to complete the exercise of any other power conferred on an enforcement officer by this Act; and(b) on demand by an enforcement officer,-(i) give his or her full name, full address, date of birth, occupation, and telephone number, or such of those particulars as the enforcement officer may specify;A vehicle includes under section2 of the act:"vehicle-(a) means a contrivance equipped with wheels, tracks, or revolving runners on which it moves or is moved; and(b) includes a hovercraft, a skateboard, in-line skates, and roller skates;"(So yes the skater is the user of a vehicle on a road and must comply.)The actions of the rider of the board could be deemed as "dangerous: as defined in the Land Transport Act Section 7, Drivers not to be reckless or dangerous"(1) A person may not drive a motor vehicle, or cause a motor vehicle to be driven, recklessly.(2) A person may not drive a motor vehicle, or cause a motor vehicle to be driven, at a speed or in a manner which, having regard to all the circumstances, is or might be dangerous to the public or to a person."A person includes the skateboard rider.Additionally any constable under Section 113 (2)(d) the officer may direct the removal of the skateboard from the road in the interests of road safety.Finally unlike other countries there is no statute demanding a Constable to state his name when enforcing traffic legislation.He is a Constable in uniform and his identification badge is visible.Contrary to the guess work of many on this blog, the officer has acted lawfully.
Terrible policing - shame on him. Thats possible their first dealing with a police officer and thats how he wants to come across??!!
'Because it is.' Whell thanks, Mom.
He's legally obliged to tell him who he is
Nope. He's obliged to tell them his badge number though.
can you do a vid tearing it down the hill outside walkworth about 45 minutes north of where you did this vid
Time for hardcore downhill longboarding on the sidewalks... haha..
I would have gone straight up that hill, pulled out my phone, looked up the high way code, then go down.
+Dan I would say both, but my dad told me to keep #2 a secret.
never once, have i heard of something like this happening in Denmark. the police once overtook me in a patrol car while i was on the middle of the road. they didn't even care.
Police in Denmark are such nice people :)))
"How is it disorderly, what I'm doing?" "Because it is" the cop knew he lost the argument lmao
dope
What's your favourite type of longboard?
It's funny when I was buying my first longboard the owner of the store was explaining the exact same thing to me about how skaters are no different from cyclists and he could shut down a longboard faster than a cyclist.
This is so corrupt. The police officer is forced to tell that guy his name by law. Plus they are legally allowed to longboard on public roads.
in NZ police are not required to give their name, just their badge number. That aside we still skate that hill and have a letter from NZ Police's head office stating we do have the right, but some cops just wanna flex. So we let them flex a little and come back another time.
joseph karchemny Well done and good video :)
crunchie have you ever been arrested? if thats not to personal
crazy but cool!!!
oh wow
i agree with u
Where is this
I feel so protected by these cops.........he said in the most sarcastic voice ever
Don't they have anything better to do like go buy some doughnuts or something
What was the end result? In the future, ask am I being legally detained or am I free to go. Just keep giving them that response for every question they ask you. Then when they ask for your details, tell them am I legally required to give it you. If they say yes, ask them, what am I being charged with. When they ask you a question respond with, I don't answer questions.
I carry around a copy of the law that says we can use the roads. I suggest you do the same gets cops to leave you alone
That old cop is a power tripper, what a clown it's people like this that give the police a bad name.
"thats not fun its ludacris" hahaahaha
I respect all of you for standing up for yourselves. He's just an old man that needs to retire
What happened after that? what's the rest of the story?
Name the bill of law that prohibits me from using my skateboard on this road? Oh you don't know? Well I'll be off then, sir.
only time ever coming into contact with police officers was when my mate and I were walking up a hill we rode down, a cop at the bottom offered to give us a ride up the hill... straya mate
They know how dangerous it is dude, it's alot part of the fun
These cops are so much better compared to cops in the USA
Talk in an american accent and say sorry idk the laws
may not work though
ehhh
***** but it isn't against the law
Bayer Ulam legally they are not allowed to ride on the streets as there is no breaks, therefor it would be a traffic infraction so yes it still is against the law
Bayer Ulam you look it up, not having brakes makes it a non-roadworthy vehicle
what kind of full is that
That's some smooooooooooth kiwi policing there!
Haha "hey YOU listening SOHN"
"you gotta get in the cops face bro"
"Because it is..." xD
(1) “Obstruct pedestrian or vehicular traffic” means to walk, stand, sit, lie, or place an object in such a manner as to block passage by another person or a driver of a vehicle, or to cause another person or a driver of a vehicle to take evasive action to avoid physical contact. Your boards would make other road users to take evasive action if they saw you, in court, you would lose. if you argued you were a road user you would be charged with "Careless Use" either way again you would lose.