Attack Or Defence? Does Liverpool's Trent Alexander-Arnold Have His Priorities Wrong?
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- čas přidán 12. 09. 2022
- Rio Ferdinand and Michael Owen discuss Trent Alexander-Arnold's defensive struggles on #UCLTONIGHT.
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His biggest problem is his awareness , he doesn’t sense danger . It’s why Vini jr scored in the final and why every team targets his side but not Robertson
Showed it again for the Ajax goal tonight. He has a tendency to switch off and just ballwatch.
Gets tunnel vision and suddenly can't see the runs in behind or even his own defensive line.
It's why sides always attack us down the right :/
Rightly so; his awareness not his defending. He seems to lose concentration at times. But his defending is good
Absolutely spot on, he never checks his shoulder, and his always slow to respond
Put him in midfield.
It’s also why ajax almost scored that second goal too did y’all see that clown strolling back to defense knowing damn well he had a wide open man in front of him which almost caused that 2nd goal from Ajax with the miss header
People have underestimated how important a player like Henderson is to Trent. Henderson allowed Trent to run up the pitch without having to constantly attack and trying to defend at the same time. Hendo used to cover those gaps something Elliott isn’t the best at. But Henderson is getting older so they need a replacement for him.
Henderson doesn’t even do that anymore 😭
Bellingham
Also Harvey Elliot doesn’t stand out for me. He always pulls to the right side and close the spaces for salah and Trent why he should stay away from there to have some space to operate in
@@nj1307 he's getting older tho so can't really blame him. Henderson can't be expected to start every game and Harvey isn't the best defensively.
@@bbbbaa6550 I don't like Elliott. He is a class player don't get me wrong but Liverpool specialise in transition and Elliott keeps the ball to long and dribbles to much so they really can't be dangerous upfront. They really need a Bellingham tbf
"it's almost like when he's defending he's a defender and when he's attacking.....he's not a defender.....",- Michael Owen.
Ground breaking stuff
He's such a bozo loool
Owen a United and Liverpool legend
@@ponzicrash4490 legend for fc united yh loool
I don’t rate Trent defensively really, however nobody can expect him to be RW, overlapping, putting crosses in all game AND expect him to be sprinting back every single time to defend. Nobody would be able to do that for 90 mins
He gets compared to reece james a lot, reece James gets the luxury of playing in a back 5 at RWB so he doesn’t get caught out as much.
I personally feel for Trent to succeed he needs to play as a RWB or possibly go into a RCM role
Alves
@@risottonero4501 Alves had other creators like Messi xavi iniesta. In Liverpool trent is the main and if not only creator. Maybe thiago.
Agreed
Alba cancelo alves maicon young bale cafu I can go on all day trent isn't the first rb that heavily attacks he just don't have half the effort or fitness to get back
@@amariebbin8153 fax
World class on the ball and attacking.
Championship defender.
Play him in midfield
Midfield he would find it hard too, he couldn’t play with his back to goal. He clearly prefers seeing the game in front of him.
Need to defend in cm, he needs to be a winger
Good shout that
if he were truly a championship defender liverpool's defensive numbers in those seasons where they've put up 90+ points would be unexplainable. every single fullback is weak defensively, it's why they aren't centre halves!
Championship 🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
Liverpool get the best out of him when Henderson is there to cover him
So so true mate. This is what I’ve been saying for years.
Yep. Vital balance
Yes but Henderson is getting old he can’t cover Trent’s rear end forever
That’s not good enough at the elite level.
That’s not an elite RB then
When he's in a normal position to defend he does ok but the problem is that he's often so far up the field trying to play overlaps with Salah that when the ball gets turned over he's 10-20 yards ahead of the ball and there's a massive hole where he should be. Even if he's got the pace, the stamina and the desire to get back he's still chasing the play and in a position of disadvantage. I don't know whether the solution is to move him up to a midfield position and replace him with a more defensive right back or play 5 at the back with 3 centrebacks to provide cover while allowing him and Robbo to rampage forward.
C'mon, he's not nightcrawler, he can't teleport back so quickly he'd gas out. His teammates have to delay the opposition long enough for him to get back or they can cover for him
@@nemboy1567 so how come Robertson and tshimikas can, they can run for days, so is it down to him being inept to figure out where danger is or is he fitness wise not up to it
@@lewiswadsworth1829 because trent comits forward so much he’s almost ahead of the midfield, the left backs are smart about it and they’re also weary that because trent’s forward so much there’s 2 at the back
@@timmy5876 spot on. And plus, people seem to forget that most of the teams creative burden also falls to Trent. That's why Henderson tries to cover for him when he ventures forward.
@@timmy5876 he is meant to be. That's literally Klops system. His right full back isn't a full back in the genegenpress. He's actually a right attacking mid .... Who drops out of that position when they don't have the ball so he doesn't have to run and press. I think half the issue would be resolved if Klopp named him as a right midfielder and then he played exactly like he does now. Then people would start to understand what his role is
for me trent isn't the only responsible...the potential he has no manager can ask him to stay an focus on defending more than he is doing! we all agree he need to defend better but at the same time the others need to cover him better too! i noticed when hendo is on the field he care more about defending trent's side than anyone do...maybe klopp need to find a tactical solution for that bcoz trent is a key of our way off attacking!
What about inverting him (Trent)? Instead of pushing forward he can dictate play from RCM/RM position and make that right side a little stronger.
Elliot is a play-maker, him not being good defensively is a given and i also feel like he is hindering Mo's typical play of cutting inside.
Instead of Elliot, what about Fabio, he is right footed meaning overlapping runs and crosses , just like what hendo does.
😂😂😂😂😂😂
Assessing the Ajax goal objectively, Trent was at fault again defensively for Liverpool. The ball got played around him and his immediate reaction wasn’t to sprint back until the ball was already in the box.
No, look at it again, one of Fabinho or Elliott should be tracking the second runner into the box. Both a ball watching.
Literally Fabi and Elliott jogging back too lmfao it’s easy to say he should be sprinting back there but he won’t last the whole game doing that on top of getting up the pitch :/
Not his job. It's upto Elliot and Fabinho to cover for him. They left Matip 2v1 there. When the defensive structure is proper, Trent defends, when there is a quick turnover and counterattack, there is no way he can sprint back to his position because he is way up the field.
Gegenpressing is a tactic that works short term but isn't a sustainable strategy cos players get run into the ground. That's the real story here
Yeah he start sprinting when it was too late 😴😴😴
This season it's been way more harder for Trent. RCM where Elliot plays (Has been playing brilliant btw) doesn't help cover him enough not that its Elliot's fault. For example when Gini was in the team his role alongside Fabinho was to plug any holes left by either Trent or Robbo whilst also being box to box CM. Athletically its extremely hard for Elliot to do that job as he's not that sort of midfielder and when this season when Henderson has played there as his usual role he's not been his best. Will be intriguing to see how Klopp tackles this as he didn't get his two first choice midfield signings in summer (Touchmeni & Bellingham) Which means he already had an understanding that he need to refresh this area of the pitch. At the moment when we turn over possession (And then end up conceding a sloppy goal in previous seasons we wouldn't) It's almost always due to holes in the midfield.
It was heartening to see liverpool press with some intensity, their BASIC game when confidence is low. Yes, we weren't that pressing monsters but we did enough to create doubts in the mind of ajax players & it was clear they felt uncomfortable. It was not easy, ajax counter attacked by playing deep & as predicted they scored from the left where trent is defending. It was lack of awareness from trent again but overall I thought he was ok. Jota for me led the gegen pressing from the front. By seeing his assist to salah, even Nunez assisted only for diaz to miss the shot. So I'll take this win against an unbeaten, in form Ajax any day.
Unbeaten playing rangers (no disrespect I'm a rangers fan but come on) and Dutch teams.
ajax who sold their best players?
@@zoeysiddiqi1532 They got lots of money by selling their players & trust Ajax they'll find even better players.
Elliott links the play very well, but he needs to cover Trent more. That's what Henderson offers and doesn't get the credit for.
I think playing Elliott has unbalanced the team. Trent doesn't get the cover he needs and Salah is playing too wide
@@derektaylor7613 Trent moves into Salah's space too much of late..him and Harvey....and hence why Salah seemed to stay wide to avoid that gap in the rw..
@@derektaylor7613 Facts
His priorities are what Klopp has set for him
Its always been clear to me how important Henderson's role is. Him getting worse is the reason why we are not doing well.
We all know trent would prefer to get forward and when he does, he doesn't really think of defending, henderson was always the mop to clear up all of trent's mess.
We don't need trent to change, we just need a new henderson
exactly , but i think henderson has 2 years of solid play left in him . i hope he gets his form back . fab and thiago looked really good and if henderson can get his form back . then liverpool will be more consistent
Henderson has always been bad. if Liverpool had a truly gifted, defensively disciplined RCM (prime Wijnaldum as an example) then Trent would not be getting dug out.
Exactly!
@@indexpictures tbh I'd rather have Henderson over wijnaldum. The leadership he brings to the team is unparralled.
@@deathtrack15 i agree , he like a commander on the pitch . its just that recently he's been down a lot and missing out on mayb the cl final and prem affected him . but i hope he gets his form back .
He isn't a right back anymore, he is showing he doesn't want to play there when all of a sudden this is happening, or he is being asked to do more than before and he doesn't get it 100% for me he should be RMF or klopp play 3CB with Trent winger and Robertson or Tsimakas opposite side
It doesn’t really work that way - pushing him into midfield isn’t always a recipe for success. He’ll have less time and space, whilst he may be able to do a job there I don’t think he would be nearly as effective from an attacking point of view.
@@illhavenoneofthat i think reducing his attacking effectiveness for having way better defense is an excellent trade off
Fax, klopp needs to adapt to the 3 cb with wingbacks setup, the 4-3-3 is getting outdated and teams are walking all over it in the big stages i.e barca
he’s not even a defender except in the way they lineup at kick off. positions in football are fluid nowadays, his ability on the ball is too good to be restricted to a purely defensive role. also for those saying he should play in midfield, he basically already does, he takes up positions in midfield zones where he can utilise his best asset: crosses from the half space.
what they could probably do is re arrange the team in a way that means he has one of the three midfielders sitting in the space that he’s vacated but that could also ruin the attacking dynamic as well.
He really isn't a midfielder tho cause he can't play with his back to goal and he isn't technical enough to play there. I think he needs to be winger with a midfielder who loves half spaces so trent can play one twos and get the cross of or he hangs deep with the midfielder running to the wide position and puts in a good cross. Although trent does occupy midfield spaces he only does it higher up the pitch where he is facing goal and can then put in a delicious cross but I dont think he should play there permanently as he doesn't track back and I don't think he has the technical ability to play out of pressure. Though I may be wrong
Everyone in the comments are talking rubbish I honestly thought Trent was really solid today in defence he won the ball back a lot and was good going forward i think the goal was a poor decision from him but it wasn’t very worrying for me because in some cases it is better to try and intercept my only worry in that game was the back post header the main problem he has is his awareness, he isn’t pessimistic enough to sniff out the worst case scenario which I think is because he always predicts the best scenario which he is forced to do as our main playmaking output so I think those mentality’s have to switch. Trent has all the capability defensively and he played well today for the most part
Yes he was solid
i agree and for the back post header , when the croos came in . he went to cover begwign and left blind open . i think if henderson gets fit , he can cover that side . it was a 2 v 1 for him and he decided to go and mark bergwign . but i agree that he could have read the cross and made better of that situation . i think vvd can teach him some of that
Alot of the time it's very understated how often he is left in a two on one situation or not helped by the RCB, Gomes is still pretty wet behind the ears, Matip has alot more awareness and would cover or make his voice heard for the likes of Henderson to cover. But even today for the free header at the back post, he had two guys to choose from when liverpool lost the ball on the other side close to the area. He made the right decision as a RB/LB come inside and cover by going to the man infront of the goal, yet gets blamed for his position when a RM would/should be on the man who the chance fell to.
The goal came because he didn’t track back and watch Blind’s chance again…he is 20 yards out of position by the time he does get back it’s too late! Honestly, he could’ve cost Liverpool a game they dominated
Yeah there was 4-5 one on one situations that he dominated
I remember when English media would say Dani Alves and Marcelo are great going forward but poor defensively.. listen, Dani Alves and Marcelo are better than Trent going forward and 5x better defensively.
Trent's gonna smoke both in assists over the course of his career, regardless of what casuals in the middle east think about their ability.
@@indexpictures and?
@@indexpictures And he will never win as much as the great Dani Alves and Marcelo.
@@indexpictures but Marcelo has amazing dribbling skills that helped RM under pressure! I remember when Real lost 4-0 to Barcelona he was only RM player to play great! Trent when team plays bad doesn't play good like Marcelo does and RM played a lot of bad games! It's not everthing about assist... otherwise team would consist of 10 passers
@@indexpictures He's also going to blow them out of the water with his shambolic defending which directly leads to goals consisted.
Michael and Rio summarised the issue perfectly. TAA is a great RB for Liverpool, but that doesn't mean he's a great RB in general terms. That's why he wouldn't necessarily be first pick in other teams that play differently, including the England national team which may go for the other more solid options instead
It's easy to take one moment from a game and kill a player when they were otherwise very good. At the same time, all he had to do was go with the runner. It's a simple problem to fix and he needs to learn
Use trent as a midfielder. I think He needs defensive trainer, but in the end of the day it's up to him if he wants to improve his defense.
Easy to say when Liverpool are struggling at the moment but we’re very quick to forget that Trent’s been playing as a right back for a team who have hit 92,97,99 points, reached 3 UCL finals winning one and won every single trophy he can at the age of 23. Somethings not working at the moment but let’s not pretend Trent can’t play the position because he’s been instrumental in all of those achievements.
Hard to see him making the World Cup squad as a RB or a midfielder, too many established players that fit into a more generic system. TAA is fantastic, but problem is he just doesn't fit - he can only fit specifically into Klopp's Liverpool team
hes only able to do what he does because he has no other responsabilities and majority of the time has no pressure when hes making passes. this "use trent as a midfielder" is such a funny narrative. couldnt imagine him having to do all the jobs of a midfielder and making passes under pressure. hes just a one trait footballer, albeit world class at that trait
@@yoonyulntaeny he is an absolute certainty to be in that squad.
@@justthetruth1 Agreed, but let’s just say he’s lucky it’s a 26-man squad this year. If it was the usual 23-man squad, there may have been a doubt
I don't ever want to hear anyone refer to Trent as the best RB in the world. The man is a black hole on defense.
literally had a solid goal, made plenty of tackles
Best rb in the world but doesnt want to defend...make it make sense
I'm not saying he's the best rb but marcelo was the best lb for years. He had similar frailties in his defensive makeup.
I can't forget that Brazil Germany game where Luiz and marcelo played as floating defenders 😄
For me Arnold would be really great in the midfield because he is not that bad in defending but his awareness is not great and in his position that leads to mistakes which a far more dangerous. He also has everything for a great midfielder.
Thing is it's the type of role they're talking about, he could be there to create chances + score then just drop back at occasion. He's weak at defense but that could not be his role
Should play in the midfield role
I remember the English media talking about him being good enough to play in midfield with his passing. Nonsense!
If he could play in midfield, there is no chance Klopp would be taking the chance of him playing in a defensive position.
How many vitally important goals has TAA conceded that has cost Liverpool big moments.
Also, with the lack of midfield depth at LP, if he was good enough, he’d be there.
He can cross from deep, that’s it.
I think Jake summed it up - he's playing 2 positions every match, so no wonder he's been looking so burnt out. It's got to be exhausting playing that way week in week out
Especially in the current climate where so many fixtures are crammed in due to the fact we have a winter World Cup around the corner. We’re gonna see a lot of plates burnt out, injured and some players’ careers possibly ended due to injury or they end up quitting due to losing passion for the game like Davy Propper.
AGAIN HE IS A MIDFIELDER, this wouldn't be a problem if klopp played him there instead of Henderson or tiago, who are both injury prone and getting on a bit as footballers.
Thiago was literally the best player on the pitch vs. Ajax. Sure, he gets injured a lot, but he is pure class whenever he plays.
He’s no midfielder, if anything he’s a wing back in a 5 at the back. He can’t play no midfield with zero awareness and he can’t play with his back to his goal.
Hes going to cost us another trophy
Who will play right back and thiago definitely helped Liverpool in the midfield
Can’t suggest dropping Thiago be real
The points are what matters and good luck to all the British clubs in Europe
The problem with Trent is he’s been made to be undropppable at Liverpool due to his assists over the years. He feels his numbers are good enough to warrant not having to track back and not having to be good defensively as he thinks he’ll make up for it with an assist. To top it off he has zero competition for his place. From when I seen Elanga cook him I knew he was done.
he sprints like hell to get back, thats not the problem. Problem is Elliott not covering for Trent. Secondly, Trent just isnt a great defender positionally and awareness wise.
A united fan had to me in the Liverpool comments section bringing up Elanga… heal buddy!!!
That last line with Elanga in it made your entire comment comical and invalid lmao
Trents not ‘done’ lmao he’s won everything there is to win in the game and he’s 23 years old
@@maheshsapre9611 it’s true though. When Liverpool played United even Elanga was eating him for breakfast and turning him inside out.
He’s awful defensively.
Liverpool fans starting to see what most fans already knew, defensively not aware and his trackong back is none existent, great attacker but so poor
I mean we kind of already knew but because of how wini and hendo played and were excellent it didnt matter as much but now its more exposed
because Gini and Hendo always covered for him in his space when he bombed forward. Harvey in place of an injured Hendo...is not effective defensive wise. Liverpool fans knew this tbh. Only idiots in the fanbase or trolls outside....gives Hendo so much sticks whereas he had been covering for Trent defensively. That is Klopp's gegenpressing in a way....creating chances had always been favoured on the right side. From Mo's solo goals to Thiago solid passing and Trent's crosses.
Remember Lucas Vazques of Real Madrid started as a midfield & was moved to right back
Think we give Trent a chance somewhere in the midfield or wing and get trippier in RB after we’ve completed our new midfield come next window or the one after
He can’t be the best RB in the world when he cannot defend. I have seen soo many wingers beat him so easily. If he can’t defend then maybe he plays midfield Because he isn’t a defender.
he is not the best right back in England let alone the world
The thing trent can improve on is his defending, and learn from Dani Alves, Alves could do both perfectly.
Dani Alves attacked from deep better than any right back, probably ever.
But I always thought Philip Lahm defended and attacked perfectly (slightly more defended) and that's why I think he's the greatest right back of all time. And that doesn't include how well Lahm played at left back, defensive midfielder and an all round leader for both Bayern and Germany.
' Trent watch Dani '
Problem solved... not the brightest ehh mate
He should learn from Kimmich and play in multiple positions, also he should learn from zidane liverpool can benifit from a player like zidane.
the game has changed. its the beauty of the game
I'm a Real Madrid fan.
Dani Carvajal actually plays similarly, in very advanced role.
However Fede Valverde always covers for Carvajal.
When Carvajal goes up, Valverde will drop a bit.
I don't see that covering/switching in Liverpool.
Trent does what he’s coached to do. He plays where Klopp and the coaching staff think he’s most effective. Yes, no doubt the system works best when Henderson is there to cover for him.
This is BS, coming from a defender who never attacked and an attacker who never defended. TAA is a revolutionary player who is producing assist numbers beyond scholes and beckham did in their hey days, and often more than what KDB does for City. His job is to attack, and when he is forward, it is the job of the right mid and right CB to protect. Also the goal from Ajax today was a fluke …
i agree with u about everything except the goal being a fluke . ajax werent good , they were decent and liverpool were comfortable defending and pressing but the goal conceded by liverpool was poor defending , trent tried to interceopt the pass which he shouldnt have done , just my opinion but he should have stayed with the runner . and the right mid was way out of position , liv were outnumbered 3 v 2 when the ball passed trent and when matip couldnt stop the pass from going through him , it was all over as vvd had two players to look at . decent attack but poor defending from liverpool
Give Trent his chance as a midfielder which is a position we need to strengthen and Gomez to play right back with squad we have!
Yeah this is a great idea, he was a midfielder at youth level, I think we need a new RB and move him up the pitch, right side of the 3 in mid.
Liverpool need to go out and buy a new right back. Someone that can bloody defend and has a decent attacking output. Stick Trent in Henderson’s position or put him on the bench. He ain’t good enoigh
100%. If he was a normal winger with a 4 man defense behind him then OK, even then he's lacking in defense. That's why I'd pick walker ahead of him every time. A quality wing-back attacks and defends equally well. It's no coincidence that Liverpool concede so much from that side. Cafu, Zanetti, Carlos, Perisic so and did both very well.
Loving the focus on Pools weaknesses
The 1st priority of a "Defender" is to defend. TAA can defend, but he get's caught out of position too often, which exposes the LFC defence to counter attacks.
I don’t know why the finger isn’t being pointed at Klopp more. He’s had Trent for years and won many trophies. Everyone can see Trent’s weakness in his game is his defence so why not work on that in the off seasons? And if not Trent should of been moved to winger or midfielder years ago. This is on Klopp tbh and maybe a little of the board for not investing enough in Liverpool
It’s so frustrating because he played really well defensively last night when they ran at him because his 1v1 defending is really good but he just cannot read the game from a defensive point of view. They just need to keep playing it in behind him and he’s gonna struggle and I don’t see that changing
His 1v1 defending is not good lol
The immediate problem with threat is his marking. When he switches too defending he leaves gaps, he’s very awkward on defense. That’s all I know, there are so many levels to his play🙌
TAA is not built for a 4 man defence. He would do greatly in a Tuchel system. Klopp needs to switch his tactics, they have become more predictable and weaker due to missing personnel like Mane and Thiago. May be a switch to a back 3 will help solidify things. I don't think Liverpools midfield in the current setup contributes greatly to attacking and transitional play... especially without Thiago!
Easy to say when Liverpool are struggling at the moment but we’re very quick to forget that Trent’s been playing as a right back for a team who have hit 92,97,99 points, reached 3 UCL finals winning one and won every single trophy he can at the age of 23. Somethings not working at the moment but let’s not pretend Trent can’t play the position because he’s been instrumental in all of those achievements.
why nobody asked Michael about his Madrid days and one left-back who also played more for offence? Would be interesting comparison and Michael's analysis
I think it's not upto him he is only 23 he clearly has won everything going forward not defending . He suits the position of RCM there he would be Beckham - esque but traditionally maybe a joe gomez suits the RB position or the new lad Ramsey they brought in . It's up to klopp to come out of his delusion of playing trent at RB to be honest pr simply play 3 at the back with 2 full backs .
Trent been one of the best creators in the world on the same level as de bruyne. He needs a midfield that covers for him. Elliot is just not that guy. The problem is not trent
The coaching staff should coach tent on how to defend
trent is just not suited to play as a rb, simple as that. He can't offer the same defensive output as his brillant offensive contributions. He should be integrated into a cm playmaker role, like a kdb, who still need to do some defending but his main duties will be making incisive passes and breakthroughs
Id like to see him in midfield or even the wing.....just to see
I love Michael Owen, sacrificing his legend status by leaving, allowing us to not be taken too serious in Europe with baros and cisse up front.
Michael Owen a gift to television.....
and to his 12 horses........
Trent should b midfielder or used as wing back with 3 defenders when playing 442 and Trent go forward like does and Robertson it leaves two at back
chanfge him to a salah back up, or play him on the left. he can't defend but he can get crosses in and shoot. he scored wicked goals vs. bournemouth and city in the comm. shield.
Even Gerrard was a right back. Need to find a way to make Trent play higher up the field. The problem is it requires changing how we’ve played under Klopp.
Good attacker, shocking defender
Literally had a 100 percent tackle win rate that game LOL sheep
@@ruff1031 Imagine relying on stats.
@@ruff1031 because Ajax had no real attacking threat. Man was afk against Napoli and got pocketed by elanga 💀
@@ruff1031 and got a ball tucked past him EASILY to concede a goal LOOOL
@@ruff1031 but how many tackles, how many ball recoveries, how many defensive sprints he can defend but not on the highest level to say he’s outstanding
Any top club that wants their fullbacks to prioritise defending when they're set up to dominate games has THEIR priorities wrong. He's been one of the best RB's in the world in one of the best teams in the world and won everything, breaking records and winning individual awards along the way. He's making some mistakes right now that are being compounded by the lack of cover from midfield and a lack of confidence around the team but we don't play him at right back for his defensive stability and never will, we play him there because he's one of the best creators in Europe. His role might need a bit of adjustment because he doesn't need to be popping up in the CF position and I think putting on extra bulk is affecting his mobility but it's genuinely fascinating to see how people want him to swerve doing the things he's done that make him amazing, and have won us everything, to become a bog standard 1960s fullback. Ignorance at its absolute best. The comparisons with Dele Alli the other day were a disgrace too, virtually no similarity there apart from a hairstyle and skin colour, Trent is still performing superbly in certain areas of the game, he's played some superb passes, set up some great chances and goals and scored a couple of great goals himself, plus he actually makes a ton of interceptions despite his reputation as a poor defender, including last night, and lives a grounded life away from football, he's absolutely nothing like Dele Alli who was playing like he'd won a competition to play, was contributing nothing and genuinely looked like he'd given up, while Trent does a load of stuff with independent companies and trainers to improve parts of his game. He's having a spell like he has every few months or so where idiots try to lecture the most creative RB in the world how he needs to play like a Roy Hodgson fullback, it's just tiresome at this point.
Only way I see him becoming the best player is if he is paired with a player like Valverde, a pseudo RW who covers all the following positions: RB, RCM and RW at times. Real madrid play with Vazquez in multiple games and still get results due to this. Vazquez isn't much better defensively and not close to TAA at attacking. Or TAA needs to play in a 5 at the back formation to thrive again. He's a great player but can only thrive in a specific formation/ playstyle.
He's a great wingback, sure he lacks defensive awareness, but what that boy can do on the wing is magical. We need to talk about the Cb's not covering for him.
1-on-1 he’s a good defender. His problem is positionally, it’s almost as though he doesn’t really care about getting back.
As good as he is, if he’s going to continue to player right back. He’s a defender first. Simple.
Since the season started, _Trent_ has had the look of a lad that needs to recalibrate his world-class feel of a football. He might have bulked up a tad too quickly over the summer.
He's a top player no matter where he plays.
They definitely should at least try moving him up to defending midfield and see how it goes. He's a great player, but his passing and accuracy shots just seem better than his defending at this point.
TAA is a holding mid or general centre mid
How with no awareness?
That's the worst position to give him. He plays like Bruno plays for United. Just does his own thing most of the match, and doesn't stick to any positional system.
TAA can play as a WB, and i think he will be perfect in 3-5-2, the thing is, Klopp would never play 3-5-2 as it is not his philosophy, but Southgate can do this, he just need a decent 3 Defenders, and he can do that with Walker as one of them.
True, wouldn’t mind 5 at back for England with Trent as the wing back tbh
Question please correct me if I’m wrong, shouldn’t he be a mid fielder rather then a defender.
I dont get it
Why dont people class him as a right mid
He’s not a winger, he’s not a right back he literally plays like Becks useto
Yeah trent is nothing more than a pacing and set piece merchant exactly like becks
When Hendo did not play Konate or Matip cover Trent. Unfortunately all three was injuriin the same time.
Doesn't mattet if Klopp is asking him to br creative and be leaning to attack. He still needs to do his bit while he is defending. Not saying he needs to make lung busting runs to make a tackle but he needs to atleast defend what's infront of him.
Elliot doesn't help him. He was fine in the 2nd half when Fabinho played RDM. Elliot can't defend or track back and it's an easy target for teams. That's why teams attack Liverpool right side. Elliott needs to go back on bench.
Henderson helps him usually that's why
half the issues though are he is getting skinned by fast attackers that are infront of him, and he jogs back, and jogs/walk, watches too much when defending. If he is still up front and the goal goes down his side is understandable, its when he is actually defending he is struggling getting beaten 1v1 and being out ran and jogging to much when the defence is in trouble
I've read loads of comments on this thread & yours is the first one I agree with 100%, well said!
Why is Klopp playing Milner and Henderson in 2022?? No Objectivity whatsoever going into this season in terms of midfield?
Are we really competing with City (as we are presumably supposed to based on what we've done in the previous6/7 years with these kind of players).. ??
Maybe hes more suited to be a midfielder than a defender! Honestly they should reconsider his position
It winds me up. Defenders shouldn't attack like that. Either make him stay in position or put him right mid and put a defender behind him. He is more like midfielder than defender.
Definitely
I still remember clear as day watching Champions League final screaming LOOK LEFT LOOK LEFT against vinius jr
Reece James is a full LB/LCB/LW/LWB package 📦 ⚽️💙
Honestly Trent isn't the worst RB he's decent he gets his tackles in, intersepts really well. Literally his main errors are crosses coming in, never looks over his shoulder. Who can blame the guy how much energy can one have up the pitch to track back. All RB make errors Trents are more known based on facts his basically a RW always in the opposition half.
The problem isn’t Trent’s alone. Salah isn’t protecting Trent but the biggest culprit is the RCM Elliott who is a liability as he doesn’t press or cover or track back. Trent is exposed as there is no pressure on the ball in midfield on that right side. He doesn’t offer enough overall to be a starter as his presence is leaving the team unbalanced. I’m surprised these so called pundits have not called it out. It’s glaring.
problem now trent is invading mo salah territory .It's not working out. They used to be more fluid together creating chances for salah to score. I don't mind trent having a shot every now or then from outside the box but today he was literally in salah's favorite spot to score.
Not just Trent.....Harvey loves to move into that space that was when Mo started his attacking move to score.....but he cannot move inwards when any of those two occupies that space as that would leave such a huge gap in the right wing. Those two being out of position affects Mo and forces him to stay wider....
@@myownlilbubble agreed
Henderson is in his early 30's now & can't be expected to continuesly cover TAA whilst being a box to box CM to. It's alot of pressure to put on Henderson whilst Milner is even older. Konrad Laimer has the age, the stamina, work rate & pressing mentality to be our RCM to be the cover for Trent
I have always commented that Trent Alexanda is NOT a fullback ? He is more of a wingback because of his talent ! Remember how Gareth Bale started as a fullback and look how his career exploded, Trent Alexanda IS NO Gareth Bale but his capabilities are far more suited plying more forward than defensive?
Bring a decent right back in like frimpong lamptey and give him ago in midfield
That would be fire 🔥 tbh Maybe get in a new fresh RB from Bundesliga or The french League
To be fair Liverpool needs a good right back like Aaronson, Arnold can drift into midfield with his good creative skill
Trent doesnt care about defending. He actively stops playing when Liverpool don't have the ball
Solution? Play 3-4-3:
Matip, VVD, Konate
Trent(RW), Fabi, Tiago, Robo(LW)
Diaz, Jota, Salah
Certainly wouldn't hurt to experiment.
Would it work if they moved Trent to Hendersons position and put Hendo in Trents ?
If he was a rm it would make more sense why he is defending is very bad but even has a rm he would have to defend . There should make him a rm if there want him to sorce more goals. Liverpool need a new rb
What they are saying doesn’t really make sense. The issue isn’t that he doesn’t shoulder his share of defensive ability, it’s that he’s technically a very poor defender. And is being easily beaten by players and generally making mistakes. He is the equivalent of a goalkeeper who has incredible distribution but is a terrible shot stopper.
I thought Michael Owen of people would of understood the amount of games he has played at a young age with pure intensity over the last 5 years. His numbers speak for itself. Youngest ever liverpool player too reach 50 Euro apps at 23. What a player.
If Liverpool had a quality RB and could move TAA into the midfield you’d notice a huge difference in their results. I think Trent would get the plaudits he deserves too, he’s too good of a footballer to play as a RB
When facing his own goal he is blind to his left shoulder, and time and time again players escape down his left side and force The CDs out of position,and with a one man overlap ,bang ball is in the net.
Trent is good for the information of back 3
He should just be a wide midfielder in a 4-4-2 with Diaz on the other side as an inverted
this isn't fifa bro
Same with Maguire thinking when he scored that goal the pressure was off, but his defending got worse which is his only job actually