Mass Effect 2 Suicide Mission Guide - How to Save Everyone
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- čas přidán 13. 05. 2021
- Mass Effect 2's final mission can go really well or really, really poorly depending on the choices you make throughout the game. Here's how to ensure that all of your crew members survive the suicide mission through the Omega-4 Relay and make it safe and sound to Mass Effect 3.
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Without a guide I only had one loss, I sent Thane through the vents. I thought I picked well because he kept talking about how hot it was and I was like- bro, you SPECIFICALLY ASKED for an arid room on the ship, you should be loving it
But he's not a tech expert.
That's either Legion, Tali and I think also Kasumi.
I was going in blind but lost garrus right away so now I’m here…
Good man.
Same haha
Same dude
Damn that sucks i lost the thief I don't remember her name but losing grunt really hit hard
@@CuernoDeChivo91 kasumi 😊👍
I lost Tali, I didn't even realise it just briefly showed her laying down, for such a big character I thought her death would be more noticeable
Yeah I lost Tali and I’m confused why. It didn’t show anything
Lost Tali when I sent her as a tech for the doors and I can't go back to fix it I am heated
@@KingJaq337restart the mission from the load option in pause menu, I’m guessing you already know that by now
There's a few issues with this guide. There's an unseen power ranking for the squadmates, with Tali and mordin at the bottom. If these two are left behind during the reaper battle they are likely to die, even if loyal. Send mordin with the crew to get him out of the way and take Tali with you to the reaper. (Also different squadmates have different levels of success when escorting the crew. Some get the crew killed, some get themselves killed)
The risk of Tali dying if left is increased if you take powerful people to the reaper, like grunt and garrus, because you are leaving behind a weaker team.
Yelp! Your comment should definitely be highlighted!
It's because there's a point system. On IGN's guide on their website, they do lay that out and show the numbers.
This helps. I just finished my second playthrough (after a 7 year hiatus). I got everyone loyal and got all the upgrades, but still lost either Grunt or Zaeed as part of the diversion team (after about 7-8 resets) and was disappointed to realize at the end that I lost Tali. I'm trying to find their guide now to run it back
I took Garrus and Jacob to the final battle, and everybody survived.
There's a problem with that I've been taking grunt and garris and tally always survived explain that one smart guy
If anyone is here in 2024, i had Tali go through the duct, Jacob as fire team, Jack as the biotic shield, Mordin takes the survivors, then took Miranda and Tali into the reaper fight, on my end, everyone survived.
Was jack loyal
@@rockyryan2323 yes, I made sure to do all the loyalty missions, definitely couldn't miss out on all of those lol.
Ty
@@milkandcookies54 absolutely!!
You're a saint for how easily you put this! Tali died for me right at the end and it destroyed me and led me here :(
"We're gonna assume you want everyone to show up in Mass Effect 3"
Well, everyone but Jacob
He sucked balls anyway
Thanks for the tips with the Normandy upgrades I completely overlooked them and half my team died before the mission even started
They die in the ship?
Doesn't matter if thier loyal 3 die off the bat on the normany
I literally just learned about this timer. I always thought it was weird that no one ever survived from the Normandy crew.🤦🏿
this really helped. i havent done the suicide mission in years and i forgot how you set the roles
My first playthough I managed to saved everyone except for kelly and the kitchen guy due to wasting time doing the legion loyalty mission and a secondary before going to the suicide mission.
I picked Tali as the tech, Garrus as the captain in both, Samara as bio and in the final battle took Miranda and Tali with me and Jacob scorting the crew. Nobody died plus Jack was unloyal. I guess I was lucky but poor Kelly :(
How many were loyal if you remember please I need to know I’m trying o save tali and garrus mostly
Regarding the last part, people can still die if not enough strong party members are left behind. The easiest rule of thumb is that 2 out of the 3 strong party members should be left behind to ensure everyone makes it. These 3 are: Grunt, Garrus, and Zaeed. I once took Grunt and Garrus to the final battle and poor Tali didn’t make it.
Ty for this! I recently finished 2 and lost 2 ppl but now I can redo me3 with joy
I haven't played 2 on legendary yet
But now that I know what not to do, I'm gonna try and save everyone and be sure the weaker teammates are upfront during the escort so my team isn't left weak
I've been playing this game for a really long time like a few years I've always had trouble keeping Jacob Taylor alive hopefully this will help
For those who’s concern in 2024, here is the general solution:
Every squad mates need to be loyal
Your 1st and 2nd fireteam leader should always be these three: Garrus, Jacob and Miranda.
Your biotic escort: Jack or Samara, both of them need to be loyal
Tunnel expert: Legion, Katsumi, Tali
Your crew member escort: pick Tali or Mordin
Keep Garrus, Zayeed and Grunt in your final cover team, or you can take one of them, and you should be good
I can’t help but notice you didn’t go over the hold the door task.
When you fight the final boss every remaining squad mate that’s alive at this point will hold the door and the game totals up the average of their strengths to determine how many people die doing this task.
Having a squad mate loyal increases their worth by 1.
Their starting worth is
0 for tali, jack, mordin, and Kasumi
1 Miranda, Jacob, Thane, Samara and legion
3 for garrus, grunt and Zaeed.
Now when I started playing this I had every squad mate loyal and someone still died because I made a mistake.
See if your team holding the doors average is less than 1 three people die
If it’s less than 1.5 two people die and if it’s less than 2 1 person dies.
I have done the math if you have the full team with you there is no circumstance in which your average is above 2 if At least 2 of your 4 cost squadmates aren’t holding the door.
It’s safe to bring a 2 cost and a 4 cost to the boss and any other combo.
Just make sure if you want to take Garrus, Grunt or Zaeed into the boss room take one and only one and any other combo will be safe.
Lol this is nonsense. You've really overthought all this. It all depends on the choices you make, before and in the moment. It's got nothing to do with some arbitrary ranking system.
@@FightTheByte_ this is how the final hold the door mechanics work if you don’t believe me take garrus grunt or Zaeed together into the boss room I promise someone will die even if everyone is loyal
So what do I do to have everyone survive
@@darthmaul3311 assign everyone the right jobs and only assign loyal people jobs.
Garrus Miranda and Jacob can lead firing squads
Tali or legion can leave tech experts
And Samara or jack can hold the biotic field.
When you find the crew anyone who is loyal can perform this job but it’s recommended you send back someone who’s hold the line worth is the lowest to bring up your hold the line average.
That’s tali, jack, mordin and kasumi having any of them escort the crew back will bring up your average significantly.
Then the hold the line mechanics at the end will average any squad mate who is holding back the door.
You can take 2 squadmates to the final boss but both have to be loyal if you want them to live.
The 3 squadmates that won’t count towards the value is whoever you being with you and whoever you sent to escort the crew.
If every squad mate is loyal no one will end up dead as long as you don’t take any of these squad mates together.
Garrus, grunt and Zaeed.
Those 3 have the highest value and if 2 are missing someone is going to die even if everyone is loyal.
You can take only one into the boss room without casualty’s.
Assuming everyone being loyal and placed in the correct positions, it should be easy for everyone to survive.
Never do missions after the Reaper IFF activates, or you'll lose people from the captured crew.
You have two missions after getting it before it activates.
Garrus or Miranda as squad leaders of 2nd team.
Legion or Tali as tech expert.
Samara or Jack as biotic barrier.
Send Mordin to guide to the survivors back, Mordin is the squishiest.
But as long as he's loyal, he should atleast be able to survive escorting the survivors.
Where does that leave Grunt though ?
@@RicardoPerez-rz8pu
Grunt is a tough character for the 2nd team leader. Or he can be on your team, if you have a strat that involves his abilities.
@@RicardoPerez-rz8pu
Grunt can help weaker characters survive if left as rear guard.
@@PerfectAlibi1 so that means that if Grunt goes with Mordin the rest of the crew survives ?
@@RicardoPerez-rz8pu
You can't send more than one to escort the survivors.
Yeah but there's a twist I did everything but tali died because I took garris and grunt along as my team but tali died so it's best to leave behind your strongest squad mates defend the door
In my first playthrough i choose kasumi as vent specialist but she died just when she got out of the vent to close the door, and zaeed died when i choose him for holding the door. All had their loyalty... it is wierd that there is still probabilities in play
I was able to survive the suicide mission with 2 non loyal squad members. I think the important part is the last bit make sure to bring 2 capable squad mate and leave heavy hitters in the rear guard.
Taking the weakest loyal characters to the boss fight and leaving the strong ones behind is the safest bet
I always take Miranda and Tali on the final stage of the mission and have never lost a single person. Also, I always send Mordin with the crew.
@@claytonhayes2760Miranda can’t die if you take to the boss room she’s the only one who can’t cause of her dialogue idk about tali tho
Mordin died for me and i don't know how. It just went to a cut scene with him on the ground and then the game was over lol.
What skin is that for Garus? His standard doesn’t have black in the middle and white on the shoulders? And his alternate is black all over.... where is that skin from?
That’s his loyalty armor
First time was going great. Already had all the upgrades as i was preping for a different run in with the collectors. I was also crusing through everyone was gonna survive. But then i had grunt provide a distraction. And my boi died, guess he couldnt handle it. Now im gonna try a second time to save everyone
I just did the exact same thing and was so sad, everything about him screamed that he could handle it. I'm expected to believe he can fight a thresher on foot but can't take measly potshots from the weak collectors? I was willing to sacrifice a lot of the team for the mission but never the krogan. I remember instantly regretting the choice when I realized "oh yeah, he's absolutely getting himself killed doing this." R.I.P.
I just completed my 1st play through of mass effect 2 and unfortunately I didn't realize how important the ship upgrades were and lost 2 people before reaching the collector ship i then lost 2 more people believing in my teammates capabilities however we won with 4 casualties when i originally thought we would lose a lot more people in the assault
Feel like the canon final battle would be with Jacob & Miranda both humans destroying the human reaper also you start & end the game with them
I literally did everything right EXCEPT doing a side mission resulting in me losing the crew. SOB
Hey I have one doubt ...Zaeed isn't Loyal ... I didn't have enough Paragon Points back Then so Will my crew die
One of my biggest momeents in my gamer life is doing this mission blind, without any tutorial and made it through with everyone alive.
I picked Kashmiri for the vent and she took a rocket to the dome, how can I avoid that.
This is so helpful thank you.
How much paragon do I need?
What about who to hold the door
It's still in the LE. I didn't lose any of my squadmates, but I did lose Kelly and many other crewmembers.
I lost Kasumi as the infiltrator, Samara when she led both fire teams, Jack at the very end, but the one that hurt the most was Garrus getting taken away by the bug swarm. I hated it.
I lost 6 members during the missions (i am on Legendary edition).. i didn't use guide for 1st try to prevent spoiler...i will definitely have a 2nd (or 3rd try) to get everyone survive! I lost Zaeed, Miranda, Grunt, Tali (one of the beautiful Waifus), Jack and Thane! Nice try for the 1st one..... :(
My first walkthrough only lost Kasumi and Legion
awwww not tali :(
Unfortunately I couldn’t get to Legion loyalty quest quick enough anyone would like to let me know any of the consequences if he survives and I moved to the third game
I lost so many people man. I lost Jack, Tali, Thane, Zaeed and Garrus
I'm playing on PC Mass effect legendary edition and I've played the game hundreds of times but I guess my game glitched or something I did everything right got the three ship upgrades had everybody loyal and did the right thing at the suicide mission but tali still died was really upset about that, is there something I did wrong I did everything right like was it a glitch in the game?
Maybe you sided with Legion? That's an instant loyalty loss towards her.
@Xena no, this was before I woke up legion
Jack died and the rest of the crew members but all the other loyal companions lived
I romanced Tali before the final mission and I was absolutely heartbroken when she was eaten by bugs after the escort part of the mission. After the game, I decided not to import my Mass Effect 2 character to Mass Effect 3 just so I could keep Tali and the others alive, besides, I have a feeling that them being alive will add more content to Mass Effect 3. Also it might add some drama because I romanced Ashley in Mass Effect 1.
Edit, I realized my mistake and I used a save file before the collector attack, sacrificed half the crew so that Legions loyalty mission would be out of the way, and ended Tali and Legions argument.
Question. 3 upgrades are:
- Silaris Armor
- Cyclonic Barrier
- Thanix Cannon
Am I right?
Yup. Garrus, tali, and Jacob.
@@Warriorsoul101 thanks. I got through it anyway. And I also got the platinum. Working on other platinums rn.
Yes
No matter how hard I try I would always lose Miranda due to her not being loyal.
During my first playthrough in ME2 in ME:LE. Before I go for Legion's loyalty mission, the game forced to the activation of Reaper IFF and then the Collectors snatched all the Normandy crews except Joker plot. I chose to complete the Legion's loyalty mission and then the suicide mission, but Kelly, Ken, Gabby and the cook died. However, when I skipped Legion's loyalty mission and go for the suicide mission. Legion died even though I sent them to escort the Normandy's crews back to the Normandy. That made me decided to start a new game +.
I think it is because Zaeed's and Kasumi's loyalty missions occupied the hidden mission quota.
So word of advice: *DO NOT HIRE ZAEED AND KASUMI* before you completed the suicide mission
Just complete the 2nd playthrough, I go straight to the suicide mission without reactivated Legion, but Mordin died after I took care of the Human Reaper. But I completed his loyalty mission! Maybe I cold-shouldered him. I should complete all the side quests before I get the Reaper IFF in the Derelict Reaper.
I had Kasumi going thru the vents and she died. The only one who died. Im bouta start it over before i goto ME3
I fucked up big time. Now i gotta restart since i have a bad habit of not saving my gane often
I got screwed for this trophy second playthrough I saved the entire crew but at the end of the game it showed one crew mate in a casket. I don’t know who or why but the game screwed me over
I lost mordin and legion when there where on second fire squad
I ignored the Normandy upgrades so tali, jack and thane died inside, I went in blind and had garrus, jacob, morlin and miranda, morlin, samara and miranda were loyal, sent morlin through the vents then he died when the first door jammed, I sent jacob to defend and samara guided us through the wasp nest thing, then garrus got carried away by those wasps and died , with them dead, samara, Jacob and Miranda were the only ones left, for the final charge, I brought Jacob and Miranda, Samara died while getting back to the normandy and jacob died after the massive reaper fell, then shepard sacrificed himself, now only joker Miranda and edi remained
Well.. don't feel so bad.. At least you killed Jacob.
I lost Jack when I played it. Have her picked for the door.
Actually you can chose the parangon spech choice and still romance Tali
(You dont need to side with her)
Will she die after losing loyalty by siding with Legion in their beef?
@@Warriorsoul101the choices highlighted with blue and red is a real deal breaker. It's a 2 for 1 deal, the only difference is the performance of your character view of being an ass or persuasionist.
I got all right and still they all died what i did wrong?
jesus how could i dont know this
In my attempt 4 of my squad died. I have to try again even though I already played ME 3
I little thing here. Don’t send the squad mates that are good for combat away to protect your crew. If one of them in missing one of the weaker squad mates will die. I sent Grunt and it cost me Mordin.
Welp, in Legendary Edition I opened the map, closed it, and opened it again and half my Normandy crew died. Felt so bad for Kenneth with Gabby dead…
Miranda is the only one that I didn’t have loyal so I guess she goes whit Scort crew back to the Normandy
I had grunt be the distraction in the 2nd round because he's literally a walking tank so why did he die on me😰
Because its not about picking someone tanky; its about picking someone with the ability to lead soldiers under fire and get them to the mission's end while minimizing casualties. Miranda has her genes, leadership training and experience as Lazarus Project Leader; Garrus led his Archangel team for months with great success until he was betrayed, and Jacob served as an Alliance privateer with his own squad. None of the other squadmates have successful team leader experience, being used to working alone (Samara, Thane, Kasumi), not having team leader/social skill (Grunt, Legion, Mordin), or having bad missions where the rest of the team dies (Tali, Zaeed).
I did all of that and someone still died but it didn't say who there was just one casket🤔
Same with me. I made Grunt go with The doc, (I figured he was the overall strongest of all the characters, so I figured he'd be fine alone.) and then Joker told me the doc made it.
So then the ending cutscene came about, then it showed a casket. So I'm like wtf, did Grunt die? Then it shows him loading weapons with jack, garrus, Thane, and joker. So I'm like wtf, well who died then?! Lmao.
I lost Mordin Solus
bc I didn’t put anyone behind them when they left 😢
That freaking nerd 😭
38 hrs and doing everything the galaxy threw at me
I get this bc I was afraid to lose garrus or anybody else 😢😢
Had perfect loyalty. Ship fully upgraded. Tali still dies closing the door 😡😡😡
Why would you use tali? Kasumi is a master thief who cracked one of the hardest safes in the Galaxy like it was nothing. She was practically made for that mission.
@@christophercostello696 Tali, Legion and Kasumi are equally as good
Legion... Only Legion for the door.
Btw you picking the wrong leader was probably the issue, or you sided with Legion instead of breaking up their argument or siding with Tali. It has to be Garrus, Miranda or Jacob for leader.
@@claytonhayes2760 Tali is fine
Could you do this entire video again, without needing to go to the toilet and rushing everything within it? :)
How did legion die at the door man
I lost liara & she’s the only one I wanted to keep alive & the only gamesave I have is like 6 hours before ffs
Guys but i dont have kasumi who i give to the vent specialist?
tali or legion are ur best pick. make sure u choose garrus or miranda as the leader for the second fire team and ensure all of them are loyal
I have everyone loyal but when I picked legion to hack the door he died
Idk i use tali how vent slecialist and she is died and she is loyal 😮
I only need to ever use the guide is for the romance. I'd knew about having the upgrades, all teams loyalty....etc
Okay
Legion died after the reaper fight ands that my only death 💀💀💀💀 what am i meant to do
Even if mordin is loyal if you don’t pick him to escort the crew back he still dies always chose Mordin to escort the crew back
I actually send Jacob most of the time, if you follow the methods listed above (leaving garrus, grunt, and/or Zaeed behind) Mordin should still live.
Is it fucked up I was thinking thane gon die anyway so why save em?😭
🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Imma go in blind and if somebody I give af about dies I’m running here
I thought I did everything right and Mordin still died. NO!!!
I thought the crew was all dead, didn't it say it was going to kill everyone on the ship, that's pathetic
If you believe in yourself and with a tiny pinch of magic, all your dreams can come true
I'm so confused everyone was loyal and I still lost Tali😖
Same here bro. So I tried using legion to prevent Tali from getting blasted in the face at door.. and still lost legion while everybody is loyal.smh
Did u ever find what to do to prevent this outcome?
I picked loyal legion for the vent sequence and he died
LOL
I lost Tali so I started over.😞😅
I used mordin for escort but he died
Was he loyal
If he wasn't then that explains why
So about the story line for this delayed MassEffect trilogy remastered edition😂after 14/16 year's before omega relay best for easy insanity is legion+legion loyalty & then shadow broker it's so easy you need 5' rather fighting 20'/30'.plus you reset the power's of your squad members specific for the last mission(example Garrus full armor piercing,all full weapon damage & no overload no need it for collectors😉&Garrus with Miranda's : health + weapon boost you destroy last boss again in 5'
Aaaaaaaaaaaaa I chose Miranda, for bionic specialist. And got Garrus killed. I was was romancing him. I hate Miranda more now.
I’ve always hated Miranda
HOW DO I STOP TALI FROM DEING????
Shes loyal and allways die how do stop it?????
I would send her to the ship with the crew you save or take her with you to the final fight
19 months ago
I lost my ship crew but my not my squad so I am gonna do better on my second walkthrough 😎👍
First time playing and I got everybody back alive guess I’m just the Goat
I didn't romance anybody cause of Liara
❤this game
Fuck. I wish would have some idea because yea.... I lost of couple of humans 😢
Fire team Miranda or Garrus for the vent legion with me tali and Jack all the way to the end mordin to escort the crew back Samara as the biotic escort to the final spot again tali and jack and my best and brightest and most ruthless hold the line and kick some collector ass😂😂😂
i lost zaaed and kasumi :)
5:00
My Grunt died! Nooooooooo!
✋ Hands up all those who brought back the entire squad and crew alive on the first time without checking spoilers!
Ofcourse PC player's doesn't have to do anything cuz insanity is like hardcore when you play with platform.Meanig PC noobs do anything you want,platform player's follow this line.Legion loyalty/Shadow broker/Arrival & Omega relay.Then jump to MassEffect 3&have fun without mods & cheat sh/ts for story/campaign game 😅🤣😂
Lost Zaeed, don’t care tbh lol
Do it blind you cowards 😤
Garrus died on my first ever play through just like 10 mins ago and I just couldn’t accept him or tali dying
@@JRayC same 😭😭, I jut beat it an hour ago and am now doing the “NG+” option on legendary edition to try to save everyone! Couldn’t start ME3 without Garrus
(; In my first playthrough everyone survived.
In my second I lost tali :'(
This game is confusing I literally don't know where to go lol the map is useless. I wish they had a marker that points where you need to go or at least have the option. I never understood why these games were so amazing. Just an annoyance of mine
It’s really not that confusing and the map shows where you are with all spots labeled just go where they told you lol
I'm not sure why you are confused. All main missions are clearly labelled on the map, and tiny side quests are in your journal.
@@theflamingpotato9651 ok dickwad
git gud
@@epicshooters1000 go fuck yourself :) get good is such a stupid insult lol not even an insult actually lol
We play this trilogy except Mass effect 1 trash with ps3 & it was my first game ever those days Mass effect 1 was only for PC available but they put it in the trilogy what a trash but Mass 2&3 man developers was pioneers ALL graphics/ weapons/ abilities/ escape artists-dash/40-50 characters for online with 70 different abilities each one & then was Bioware 😴 sleep for 4/5 year's(Worst strategy ever)&Bungie steal everything make 1good copy Destiny 1 a lot of 💰 & when Bioware wake up after 1 platform (ps4) they bring this trilogy for ps5 2022 the game still stands but offline only & all the gredits are 2 Bungie 😂the cheaters company with the highest cheat community. Who is the looser in Bioware & why sleeping so many years 🤔 😴 cuz okay different online but zero cheaters vs 90% cheaters in Destiny 2
Lost Mordin. Got MLK'd by the door. 😢
I lost him too. But have no Idea how.