2. SS-Panzerdivision "Das Reich" Panther Ausf. A burned out near Sainteny in July 1944

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  • čas přidán 14. 06. 2024
  • Sainteny was a commune in the Manche department in Normandy in northwestern France and between the 9th and 10th July 1944 the scene of hard fighting between advancing US forces and defending German forces, with the latter supported by elements of 2. SS-Panzerdivision "Das Reich" fielding Panther tanks, with heavy casualties suffered on both sides and more than half of the buildings in the commune destroyed.
    0:00 This particular Panther was filmed on July 10th and is burned out, with the remains of what what was likely a member of the crew of the vehicle. The ball mount for the bow machine gun and shape of the hull identify it as an Ausführung A.
    0:23 The obvious battle damage to this vehicle is visible in the form of at least three penetrating hits in the side armor. While formidably armored frontally, the Panther was poorly protected from the sides and rear and was therefore was vulnerable to ambush, especially in the terrain encountered in Normandy. The location of the hits is where some of the ammunition for the main gun was stored and any one of those penetrations would likely have set the tank on fire immediately. The hits are also in line with the driver's position meaning he likely never left his seat. The bottom of the sponson under the targeted area is also blown out, which suggests an overpressure from the propellant being ignited. The tube on the side of the hull is where the barrel cleaning equipment was stored.
    0:34 A closeup of the open loader's hatch that also shows the turret to be covered in chicken wire, the latter allowing foliage to be more easily attached as camouflage. A US Jeep drives by with the passenger armed with a Thompson submachinegun. The tube visible on the side of the Panther's hull is where the barrel cleaning equipment was stored. The rubber on the roadwheels has been burned off.
    0:50 One interesting aspect of this wreck not shown in the footage is that it is just a few meters away from a wrecked US M4A1 Sherman. The main image shows how the vehicles were positioned on August 12th after being pushed aside to clear the road, while the inset shows their position when they were knocked out a month earlier.
    0:55 A closer view of the Sherman reveals the extent of the damage it suffered, apart from several frontal penetrating hits the turret is knocked off its mounting and the tracks have lost their rubber pads to fire. The turret features additional "cheek" armor plating around 1.5 inches thick that was added to compensate for a thin spot in the protection that was reportedly targeted as a weak spot by enemy gunners.
    There are five holes from armor piercing shells in the glacis and one in the transmission housing, with each area also showing evidence of a single hit from a HEAT warhead such as a Panzerfaust. The clean nature of the holes is consistent with shells from a high velocity gun, of which the Panther was equipped with a fine example and therefore a likely culprit. While it was common to fire on enemy vehicles until they started to burn to ensure they were out of action and make them difficult to recover, six shots would be overkill so they are not necessarily hits suffered in combat.
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Komentáře • 49

  • @krismorgan
    @krismorgan Před 2 měsíci +30

    Ouch -that sherman

  • @northernskys
    @northernskys Před 2 měsíci +28

    It wasn't uncommon for tankers on both sides to "knock, to see if anyone was home" when coming upon each others tanks unexpectantly. That could explain the numerous holes in the front of the Sherman. The view from inside a moving tank, isn't the greatest in the best of times. Better to waste a shell than to get wasted.

  • @drmarkintexas-400
    @drmarkintexas-400 Před 2 měsíci +6

    🏆🤗💪🙏💙
    Thank you for sharing

  • @otten5666
    @otten5666 Před 2 měsíci +9

    I never noticed the Panther also used the interleaved road wheels. I always thought it was only the Tiger family that had that. If the Panther and the Sherman fought each other then that fight was at point blank range. Was that likely? I don't think either of the crews would want to let an enemy tank get so close that they can smell each other.

    • @j.heberhernandez3037
      @j.heberhernandez3037 Před 2 měsíci

      Even the JaggerTiger/Panther, transport and some recognition vehicles had interleaved tracks.

    • @paulroberts3639
      @paulroberts3639 Před 2 měsíci +5

      A number of half tracks, and the Panzer II Lynx. Even the Kettenkrad. It was used often.

  • @MultiDivebomber
    @MultiDivebomber Před 2 měsíci +1

    These soldiers are still curious kids...maybe in their late teens

  • @Better_Clean_Than_Green
    @Better_Clean_Than_Green Před 2 měsíci +2

    I read an article on wiki yesterday that "Das Reich" was also equipped with several (dozens if I remember correctly, or not) captured T-34s. Feel free to correct me.
    But now I can't find the page anymore (I doubt it was deleted the moment after I closed the page)

    • @northernskys
      @northernskys Před 2 měsíci +9

      No, you're not wrong. "Das Reich" did have some T-34's in the West, that had been captured on the Eastern Front. Although I'm not sure of the number exactly. Some of these probably had German cupolas fitted, as they provided a better 360 view all around, and all captured tanks, would have been fitted with German radios (many early Russian tanks had no radios).

    • @mdstmouse7
      @mdstmouse7 Před 2 měsíci +3

      they did i believe it was either 25 t-34s or two units of 25 for 50 t-34s. i believe these served on the eastern front. i have not seen a western front t-34

    • @Ek_Ekvil
      @Ek_Ekvil Před 2 měsíci

      @@northernskys the lack of radio stations is a myth and a propaganda lie.
      Today, you have to be an incredibly stupid person not to notice that everything they say in the West, including history, is a lie... a pathological lie, they even lie for no reason. Perhaps there are so many lies in the West...
      that a critical moment has come when even an accidental truth will bring everything down... and it is because of this that now in the West they lie just like that, always and everywhere, simply fearing that they will have to answer for an endless sea of ​​lies.

    • @Ek_Ekvil
      @Ek_Ekvil Před 2 měsíci

      @@northernskys It’s just a historical fact that people in the West are point blank trying to ignore.
      The T-34 has a 360-degree view of even the earliest models.
      The vision of the German heavy Tiger tank until the end of 1944 was less than 270 degrees.
      In 1944, the Germans began to replace the commander's cupolas of tiger tanks with commander's cupolas from the panther precisely because of the poor visibility of the tiger.
      If the fact that you all are constantly being lied to and all your myths in which you believe corresponded at least a little to the truth, then no one would change the commander’s turret of the tiger.

    • @frankvandergoes298
      @frankvandergoes298 Před 2 měsíci +2

      Das Reich did capture a number of T34,s at the Kharkov tank factory.
      These were placed in the 8th Panzer company.
      I,m certainly not aware of any being taken to France as usually a unit being withdrawn for refitting handed over all its heavy weapons prior to departure.
      Although when division Hitlerjugend was being formed in 1943 LAH officers bought 3 Pz IV and 2 T34 back from Russia for driver training.

  • @user-xb5bh9ig1v
    @user-xb5bh9ig1v Před 2 měsíci +2

    The driver/commander didn't place their tank properly. They didn't angle their panzer. Side armour plates were only 2 inches in thickness.

  • @dannyhoward3437
    @dannyhoward3437 Před 2 měsíci +1

    That’s a different Sherman at the end. Its turret is still on, where the one in the footage with the Panther has a turret that’s been lifted off to the side by internal explosions.

  • @CarLos-yi7ne
    @CarLos-yi7ne Před 2 měsíci

    Panther and Sherman: both equally shot up and burned.
    The Panther turned into a Heatler and the Sherman into a Ronson.

    • @TheSaturnV
      @TheSaturnV Před 2 měsíci

      After the M4 received the "wet stowage" it actually burned less than other tanks.

    • @CarLos-yi7ne
      @CarLos-yi7ne Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@TheSaturnV And before they didn't burn easier than other tanks. It is all downplaying of the Sherman which is fashionable these days. 🤷🏼‍♂️

    • @bjornsmith9431
      @bjornsmith9431 Před 2 měsíci

      ​@@CarLos-yi7ne both Allied and German tanks burn at the same rate during the war, both sides used Gasoline and Diesel engines, the German armored plated on the Tanks and Armored fighting vehicles by 1942 where lacking certain alloy magnanas and valdumunue that strength steel plates which prevent Spalling deadly fragments inside the tanks even Willie Pete and High Explosive shell could knockout Panzer 3/4, Panther and Tigers so what your point ?

    • @CarLos-yi7ne
      @CarLos-yi7ne Před 2 měsíci

      @@bjornsmith9431 You did read my point I guess, maybe not realising it. That is why you ask. 😁
      You are telling exactly the same as what I did, with a bit of extra info (Although 1942 is a bit early for the quality problems regarding German armor plating I think).
      So what is your point?

    • @CarLos-yi7ne
      @CarLos-yi7ne Před 2 měsíci

      @@bjornsmith9431 Reed what I wrote. What is your point?

  • @Grandizer8989
    @Grandizer8989 Před 2 měsíci +1

    The Panthers with their long barrels struggled in Normandy due to the hedgerows and narrow streets. Normandy was STuG country except at Villers Bocage.

    • @ukasz-zm9qc
      @ukasz-zm9qc Před 2 měsíci

      Don't you really know that Normandy is not only a land of hedges and narrow streets? In the Caen sector it was completely different.

    • @Grandizer8989
      @Grandizer8989 Před 2 měsíci

      @@ukasz-zm9qc those aren’t my words, they are from a German Colonol. Von Luck I think

  • @j.4332
    @j.4332 Před 2 měsíci +1

    So NOT invulnerable after all?

  • @arefkr
    @arefkr Před 2 měsíci +9

    That Sherman looks like a SSpaghetti drainer

  • @tsmgguy
    @tsmgguy Před 2 měsíci +1

    Once a tank burns it cannot be repaired and is fit only for scrap. Looks like the M-4 and the Panther shot it out at close range and both lost.

  • @BlueSteel331
    @BlueSteel331 Před 2 měsíci +5

    Die Ami-Soldaten waren schockiert wie massiv der Panther im Vergleich zu ihren mickrigen Shermans war.

    • @jeffreyb8770
      @jeffreyb8770 Před 2 měsíci

      I'M shocked at how massive the Panther looks next to the G.I.s.

  • @jeffreyb8770
    @jeffreyb8770 Před 2 měsíci +4

    All those holes in the Sherman are meant to emphasize its inferior armor to the Allied troops. You couldn't kill a Panther head-on.

    • @j.4332
      @j.4332 Před 2 měsíci

      The Soviet 85mm on the T-34/85 or SU 85 was able to penetrate the front of a Panther at a close range.

    • @TheSaturnV
      @TheSaturnV Před 2 měsíci

      Those holes are meant to show that the Sherman was shot at until it burned so they wouldn't have to face it again on the battlefield.

    • @chost-059
      @chost-059 Před 2 měsíci

      Quit this stupid wehraboo crap

    • @obsidianjane4413
      @obsidianjane4413 Před 2 měsíci +1

      The film was taken by US cameramen, so that is false. Its just dramatic. Firefly and 76 and 90mm guns could penetrate the Panther. So wrong again.

    • @springspinne2973
      @springspinne2973 Před 8 dny

      @@obsidianjane4413 maybe at close range or in the turret but it is not easy to hit the turret that accurate this is not war thunder