How to understand Stihl chainsaw model numbers - Bench Talk #2
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- čas přidán 13. 09. 2024
- Alex has done his homework. He shows how to better understand what model of Stihl chainsaw you have or are planning to purchase. Hope you find this as informative as we did.
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A Stihl dealer told me the word magnum on some Saw's didn't really mean anything. It was just a marketing thing, to make the buyers think it was a better saw.
Good job Alex 👍🇺🇸
Hi Gary, makes complete sense. It’s all about marketing. Appreciate you stopping by and supporting us.
I had no idea, Alex! Thanks for doing the homework and schooling us up! Can’t wait for the next Bench Talk! -Brad
Appreciate you watching, Brad. We are never to old to learn!
Another great job Alex. Trying to explain and teach people isn't a easy task. You have to do your research and make sure it is true. You certainly did that. When not being a "fan" of something or think something else is better, it's hard to be impartial. I think you explained it well. I happen to be a Stihl guy. I enjoyed the video and think you did a fine job. There are other great saws out there. The great debate seems to be Huskies vs Stihl. They both make great saws. It come down to personal preference in my opinion. It's nice that you kept the comparison to a minimum and just talked about the main topic. Keep up the good work. Look forward to seeing more. 👍
Hi Matt, thanks for the comment! We definitely agree that each company makes great saws. We both learned a lot doing this video and made us appreciate Stihl that much more. Appreciate you watching as always!! Mike
Impressive video Alex. I never thought about the 2nd number meaning, very interesting. Than you for doing this!!
The only model I wouldn't agree on being a professional saw is the 180, even because it has a black handle.
You will be shocked to know that here in Argentina, we have the MS 382 model, but it's a 72.2 cc saw just like the MS 462 which we also have 😨it's a 5.3 hp saw, it rips. This totally falls off this rule haha.
Another good job on the bench talk Alex! I learned something new today. Thanks for sharing!👍🏻👍🏻
Hey Todd, thank you very much for the comment and continued support. Alex can’t fit his head through the doorway right now! 😂
Very nice and informative video just one little mistake I noticed. The MS 180 is not a professional saw, the smallest Pro-saw is the MS 201. And you forgot the letter W, which stands for heated handles or my favorite MS261CM-VW VW means heated handles and heated carb.
Greetings from Austria
Why doesn’t the Stihl catalog offer this information? Nicely done!
Hello! That is the million dollar question, for sure. It has always been unclear what is a pro saw and what isn’t, from Stihl. Husqvarna on the other hand has made it very simple. Appreciate you watching and commenting! WST
Alex, you did a really good job on this video. 👍
Thank you very much for watching and the comment. Alex really appreciates it.
Excellent explanation… thank you and well done.
Thanks for the comment and for watching. We appreciate it! WST
Great and useful video. Thank you for all the information
Thanks for watching! Glad you got some use out of it. WST
Great tutorial. Easy to follow. Thank you.
Thank you for watching and finding the video helpful. Take care! WST
Thanks for the clarification, very useful information.
Thank you for the comment, Ian!! Glad you found it useful. Have a great weekend! WST
Small correction, there is a MS500 79.2cc and the 4 series starts at 66,8 with the new MS400.
They don't seem to be changing the 8 series and 6 series sins the recently released de MS881 and MS 661 and the last number is as far as I know new releases, seen in
MS360 MS361 MS362 same cc just a newer model of the same saw.
Al the best from Norway:)
Appreciate the correction. Stihl has a very interesting way of keeping us all on our feet. Appreciate you coming by all the way from Norway. Take care and thank you. WST
036, MS 360, MS 361, MS 362 all of them are new releases of the same midsize professional saw. But couple of changes made as time progresses.
MS 360 builts on 036's foundations. MS 360 is an upgraded modernized 036. Both are 61,5 cc.
MS 361 is not an upgraded 360 it was newly developed saw.
MS 361 and MS 362 completely different saws only related by engine size 59 cc.
Wow. Great explanation. Had no idea.
Hi Mike, appreciate you checking it out. Stihl is not easy to figure out. It doesn’t discount the saw in anyway. Just a bit of a mystery on their model number sequence. Have a great weekend! WST
Local shop was trying to tell me the "Comfort" option meant easy start.
Comfort and easy start are two different things. Comfort is about weight and maneuverability. Sounds like you didn’t fall for that. Thanks for watching
My Stihl MS180C does have all the 'comfort' features, including hand-adjustable chain tensioner AND the ErgoStart pull-start mechanism. Your dealer was telling you the truth.
When I hear a Husky man say something on a Stihl is “quite simple “ and “quite interesting “ I can’t keep from thinking it’s code for “stupid”🤣🤣 And you can bet I’ll be sharing my new found knowledge at the water cooler Monday morning! Fine job young man!👍🏻
We are not quite sure what you mean??? 🤣🤣 Stihl didn’t do its customers any favors. I’ll leave it at that. Thx for watching!!!
Hi Alex - it's Big Rodders in Ireland. A very interesting video, even though I am Husky through and through. Stihl's referencing system always confused me so my very useful learning today is the identification of Pro or Res saws. The only Stihl I own I don't use as it hasn't got a chain brake. It's an early 1970s 020 AVH 32cc model, if you want to check it out there are detailed specs available on line.
Hi Big Rodders! Thank you for stopping by and watching. We learned a lot from this video also. Not one person we’ve talked to yet hasn’t learned something. I checked out the 020 AVH saw. Neat little saw. I know they made a T handle model with it also. 020T.
I believe I’ve watched this twice before. To my knowledge it’s quite possibly the only on Stihl identifications which are extremely confusing to say the least. I’ve got three older, so am I, Farm saws and never could grasp their logic. Thank you! Question if I may please: are you a son or brother of Mike’s?
Hi Bud, nothing against, Stihl. They just don’t have a simple formulation to understand what you want to know about a saw. You can study the catalog or just be a savant of all things Stihl. Some people are, I’m not. Who you saw in this video was my son, Alex. I am his father, Mike.
motorsage is actually German for power saw - no chain in that (kette)
From what I understand....on the older Stihls the Letter O is not a zero... it is an O. It stands for Oilmatic.
That makes complete sense. Thanks for taking the time to add to this information. Happy Holiday’s!
That is not correct. 'Oilomatic', sometimes called 'Oilmatic', is a feature available on Stihl chains, not the saws themselves. And it wasn't invented yet when my 1981 Stihl 028AV saw was built.
I read that stihl used Cubic inch rather than cubic centimeter.
The first two numbers are that Cubic inch.
Ms 170 being 17 Cubic inch, which can convert to cc with a calculator.
Also, they flipped the numbers...an older 028 is now a 280 etc
No, that's not correct. My MS180C, for example, has a 31.8 cc engine, which equals 1.94 cubic inches. No chainsaw has a 17 cubic inch engine. The average lawnmower has a 190 cc engine, which equals 11.6 cubic inches.
@@paulmaxwell8851 ok, i maybe didnt explain it well but I wasnt intending to say that the saw was 17 ci, but that 1.7 is likely closer.
I was more trying to illustrate that stihl used a different scale to formulate its model numbers than other saws, and that i read, albeit years ago, that they used ci rather than cc like other saw brands do.
So for example, your 180 isnt illustrating 31 ccs via its model number as other saws might do, but your 180 as you suggest, is 1.94 ci.
Well 194ci is much loser to the model number 180 than 31cc is.
It isnt my claim so much as it is what id read years ago.
Perhaps you know. Does Stihl use ci or something else in its model number? ...... again, a 1.94 ci saw is called a 180 and not a 31.8cc.
My point was merely that using ci will get you much closer with stihl and once we convert stihls model number as reflected in ci to cc, we can get a better approximation to its cc.
Motorsäga translates to Motor Saw in German. Ketten Säga is the direct translation to Chain Saw.
The word Säge sounds like how we would say SEGA but more like Zayga
Thank you for the detailed correction. What we found when researching was not that detailed. Appreciate you watching! WST
Hi Alex, sorry to throw a spanner in the works but I’m sat here working on my MS382 which is a 72cc saw, as were the 381, 380 and 038. They definitely don’t fall into the 59-64.1cc category you described. Stihl also make a 7 series set of large capacity older tech saws that are non-EPA. Stihl confusing.
You are most certainly correct. That is a definite outlier on the Stihl model numbers. MS382 is a 72.2 cc saw. Thank you for bringing this to our attention. We used several charts and reference materials to compile the information. This one escaped us for sure. To say Stihl is confusing is also an accurate statement. Thank you for commenting. We are big boys over here at WST and admit any errors. Thanks for stopping by. More Bench Talk episodes coming .Check them out! WST
Feedback is the breakfast of champions! Good on you for trying to puzzle out their conventions - they really are not the most accessible system for sure. Good luck with your future videos!
Great video Alex. I always considered the Huskies easier to start and simpler. The Stihl's always seemed heavier built though.
Thanks for stopping by and supporting the channel. I have experienced everything you just stated. My last Stihl was a 290 and it was heavy!
Hi BuildALot - it's Big Rodders in Ireland. I too am a Husky fan. After a right shoulder break, I have restricted movement and I always compare the power/weight ratio of all equipment. Stihl seemed always to be heavier and over here more costly, which is relevant when you are a small time enthusiastic amateur. I am a great fan of Tanaka equipment, great power to weight performance at a good price. I have a Tanaka back pack blower, weed eater, hedge cutter, a standard and a top handled saw. I get the impression they are bigger sellers in the States than here. Don't know the verdict on them since Hitachi took them over.
Thank you for the great video, am I the only one thinking their numbering system is a huge mess? Why not just msCC# * .
Hi Steve, you are definitely not the only one. When you make so many versions and sub versions it’s hard to make unmessy, which is not a word, but they made me invent it. Merry Christmas and have a great new year. WST
Great vid thanks
Hi Dalton. Glad you enjoyed it. We appreciate you watching. WST
Quick idea; may be if you can get different saws to show in your video or at least show a picture or of the different saws it would be a nice feature. Good research and info. Thanks
Hi Tony, I appreciate the comment. I would have done more video on Stihl models etc. I just had no Stihl saws in the shop at the time. Editing is still a little rough on this end, but we are getting better and will add pics when needed. Thank you for the comment. WST
but how about the ms180, that's not pro is it ? Thanks for the video.
It is not. It is a light duty saw that would be great for limbing etc.
It's a great saw. Mine has become my everyday chore saw, while the much heavier Stihl 028AV and Homelite XL-12 saws are for bucking firewood.
Thanks for the time and the info. I must of missed it but why did they got from 025 to ms250?
Hi Bobby. Stihl went to MS in their nomenclature because MS stands for Motorsage, which translates to “chainsaw” in German. It means nothing in regards to the performance of the saw or anything else for that matter. Thanks for watching! WST
Great
Stihl made 05#s & 07#s
Interesting, I thought they were just random numbers😆
Now you know! Thx for watching, Logan.
Bring back Mike
Hi Ben, Mike will be back in future videos when he heals from a slip on the ice. Until then, enjoy the silky smooth sounds of, Alex and Bench Talk.
Rip Mike
@@lukasaurusrex1334 Tanks, Luke
@@WSTMike my condolences to Mike. I hope for a speedy recovery
Ms 180 is not a professional saw by any mean
No, it is not. It doesn't even have an adjustable carburetor (no needles) and the bar oil cannot be adjusted. Still, a great all-round multipurpose saw, coming in at about 13 lbs fully gassed and oiled.