H&Y Revoring Variable ND + CPL Filter UPDATED version - Demo & Test
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- čas přidán 5. 02. 2021
- The Revoring is a variable-size VND + CPL that allows you to use 1 filter for different size lenses. I test out the updated system that includes magnetic +3 stop ND, magnetic lens cap, and 46-62mm adapter. Learn filmmaking: myfilm.school/revoring
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Hi everyone. Yes I see the X pattern. I didn’t talk about it because I thought the test footage was pretty obvious. My sample footage is an unbiased test, and I trust you the audience to decide for yourselves. Personally, I think this filter is good up to 5 stops. 8 stops if you add the 3-stop magnetic filter. I still plan on using it. You are free to decide otherwise, no biggie.
Hi Brandon this is the great review... But I have a question.. can we add additional filters on top of Revoring VND???? & Also can we add lens hood on top of the Revoring ?? I know they are providing a magnetic lens cap to attach it.. but I doubt this filter got lens treading in front of it other than just a magnetic Frame... It would be really helpful if you can give a reply addressing this things.. it would really help lot of people to make a right decision before investing in this Revoring system... Thankyou.
@@dop_vincent There will be magnetic filters to go on the front of the RevoRing VND. And a lens hood is also being designed.
@@j-k116 That's good to hear.. btw thanks Jeff..
@@dop_vincent I don't think you can add filters or hood on top of Revoring. It doesn't seem to have any front threads. However I think you could use the step-up filter adapter, put a filter on that, then put Revoring on top of the filter. But that would be really big and bulky.
@@BrandonLiUnscripted Thank you Brandon for answering my question.. love from India ❤️
Nice product but the X pattern is very noticeable.
Moments variable ND’s have been the best for for me. Even better than Polar Pro because they have an ugly color shift. I usually shoot with a color chart, so the differences in correction for certain filters is very noticeable.
Of course Kennex, Brandon showed it on purpose to give you the whole scenario of what you can expect buying this product😉
@@ClaudioDesideriFilms yeah true mate. I admire Brandon’s reviews. I’ve been seeing this product for months already and Brandon showed how this product works. I like the concept of the product, it is convenient and usable.
This will depend on how we use it.
@@KennexAbadia 😉👍
Maybe the final production version will have fixed the issue. Hopefully
For those who pre-ordered after watching reviewers who were compensated in kind or otherwise, you should know they would have avoided talking about the X pattern.
Agree that the x pattern is not talked about much. My experience is that it is only a -5 stop vnd filter.
@@wonderful_hongkong you own it? Shame that it's not really 10 stop in that case. The variable size is cool tho
@@cinialvespow1054 Yes - i have 2 actually. So as far as I am concerned, it is not a case of bad sample. Within the limits of physics, there are trade-offs and something's got to give - but nonetheless it is a convenient tool (having CPL + VND) for most use cases. I just need to understand its limitation and be prepared accordingly. Anyways, I have a separate 10-stop VND with no CPL.
He didn't say anything but he left it in there as a heads up.
Moments variable ND’s have been the best for for me. Even better than Polar Pro because they have an ugly color shift. I usually shoot with a color chart, so the differences in correction for certain filters is very noticeable. Just my experience. I have tested a lot of variable ND’s and polarizing ND’s and most reviewers seem to fudge the results.
Wow thank you for sharing. I’ve been following your vlog quite sometimes and I learned a lot especially now that I got my canon m50 camera
Hey Brandon thanks for the reviews lately you did. I know it is hard times to travel. But we missed your Documentaries.
Hi Brandon,
Having been used to the fantastic variable ND on two of my Sony camcorders, I invested several hundred dollars in a variable ND for my mirrorless. It does not have the X problem at full ND, but I had not realised it was polarisation-based. I have had shoots where I got terrible effects when shooting through a window. The latest was flying over a river that looked purple through the lens, as if it was covered in an oil slick.
Glad you showed how unusable it is past 7stops, thank you, I was considering this but now I know I best stick to my screw on non-variable heavy nd’s
I ordered this back in Sept...still havent got it...
hey are you that famous timelapse guy in London? 😁😏
For those who want a variable ND without the X, I've been looking for one and finally bought the Aurora Aperture PowerXND Mark II, they have two versions, one with 2-200 and one with 32-2000, I've used them several times now and i have to say, no loss in sharpness, no loss in contrast, no color shift and no X. I can highly recommend those for everyone who's looking for a Variable ND. BUT those dont have a build in CPL! If you want both, its ALWAYS better to have build in ND, and screw on the CPL, OR buy a NP Adapter which is good with CPLs since even an ND Adapter uses only one layer of ND and not two cpls combined (which all variable nd's are).
Hope I could help some people!
Hey brandon ! Would love to see more fast cut edits . Love your videos ❤️
Thank you for the video and on the video of the step up ring. I thought I had to buy 2 sets of different sizes! Thank you for saving me!
Interesting! Nice video ✌️
Great product
Thanks for review... 👍👍
If they came out with a Pro version with higher quality filter that eliminates the X pattern that would make this a must have.
I get these things are more convenient, bit I live in Australia, probably the most glare and contrast in the world for cameras. I use screw on filters and generally you can fine tune with your aperture iso shutter. So i don't find it that much of a hassle. I suppose if you did work that required constant variation of dark and light with action it may save time. But i haven't personally experienced this. Cheers for the review
So cool
Great!
Hi, thanks to share the interesting video. Out of curiosity: do you think a variable ND filer is more convenient if it has a lever on the ring to be able to move the lens more easily to shoot videos? Thank you
Hello Brandon, I absolutely love your videos and value your opinions. Please what ND filter would you suggest for the GM 24mm?
Oh that's cool! Except for the X pattern it could be perfect! I will definitely try to get one and try out...thanks for the review!! The adjustment of filter size looks pretty cool and practical😋
Same here ☺️
It's cool 😳
Interesting brandon didnt talk about the X over the nd. This makes me question the other reviews.
He put in the review though...you know?
He is showing you how it looks though and several times in different circumstances. So he is allowing you to judge for yourself what you find acceptable or not.
@@Pierluca72 He is getting paid for not saying something bad, so he is just showing it..
Sounds like you practicing for your next Oreo dunk in milk session 😄.
for smaller filter threads, couldnt you just use the 67-82 revoring on a step down ring then attach it to the smaller filter thread?
does it come with the lens cap? or u need to by it as an extra?
Hi. Love your reviews. Last year I bought this system but can’t get my ring to adjust to different sizes - only the 82mm. The ring won’t turn to adjust to my 72mm and 67mm lens sizes. Any suggestions as to what I can do?
pretty cool. waiting for mine to arrive. but i gotta say - the X pattern in the higher stops was very noticeable
I agree, to go above 5 stops ND you probably need to use the magnetic +3 stop filter.
@@BrandonLiUnscripted could you tell me the name of the brand of magnetic +3 stop filter that you used here please?
@@user-nu8bf3bf9m The mag filter is part of the Revoring system
@@BrandonLiUnscripted I bought Revoring VND+CPL and it didn’t come with magnetic +3 ND nor magnetic filter cap. Is my set missing some stuff...? I found magnetic cap on online store but couldn’t find that magnetic +3 ND. Could you tell me where can I find that?
@@user-nu8bf3bf9m This is the updated version, it's different than the original Kickstarter. You'd have to ask H&Y when/how you can get the new accessories.
I'm considering getting Tiffen 1/8 black pro mist and then putting Revoring VND on top of that. Do you think it's a good idea?
PLEASE READ MY COMMENT BEFORE BUYING.
I'm glad you got yours, the kickstarter campaign is been a shameful mess, I'm still waiting for mine and I don't expect getting it before March if I'm lucky. But for real I'm so disappointed with the production models, the ones the other youtubers are using seemed more well polished where these production models feel rushed with corners cut to meed global demand.
For real this is a 5 stop filter and from 6 to 10 stop is a joke, and really I hate H&Y has the shameless face to say you need a solid ND over the vnd to achieve 10 stop polarization, if I knew that I'd just order the ring adapters and skip the VND all together, and for those that don't know that magnetic 3 stop nd is SOLD SEPARATELY, no freebies from H&Y here. And the felt/velvet on the cap, man that's gonna be a dust magnet.
And please let people know that there are many different size ranges for the VND + cpl filters, they don't need to clamp it all together like you did. There is a 37-49mm, a 46-62mm, a 58-77mm, and a 67-82mm so you buy the one with the range best fit your lenses.
The Revoring adapter for your current filters is a great product on the other hand, you can continue to use most of your existing filters on different thread lenses. So you don't need to invest in expensive magnetic filters that may drop when running and gunning.
For those who didn't back on the kickstarter campaign and indie go-go and plan to pre order PLEASE DON'T, H&Y is a reputable company, but their crowd funding is a total mess, I would never back them again, I'd use their products again definitely, but I would 100% wait until it's fully available on major retailers, b&h/adorama/amazon/samy's. I still have no clue if mine will come at all, there are filters being shipped to the wrong addresses and h&y is passing the bucket to the dispatcher company, leaving backers suck it up, nobody is taking responsibility, it's been a regretful experience backing them and even more if I don't receive mine and have to file a charge back with my credit card company.
And if you think I'm making a drama, on their kickstarter campaign there are backers withing the first 100 who never received theirs and are still complaining just to get a tracking numbers that actually works. And this is a big lesson when considering backing any company on crowd funding campaigns, your money will be held hostage until you ever, if ever you receive your product. It's not worth the discount.
Last thing to mention, on the kickstarter campaign H&Y claim no vignetting on wide lenses up to 16mm, but backers who got theirs are claiming vignetting as early as 23mm and 18mm, so if you think this will be the answer for your problems for wide lenses please LOOK ELSEWHERE, I shoot with 16mm and was hoping things would be alright since they claimed compatibility, now I'm just hoping to receive my filters and rings at all and will shop for solid filters later.
Not to be all negative, backed filters should have been shipped since November of last year and the global pandemic obviously impacted everyone so of course I don't blame H&Y for the delays, I hope all workers are healthy and working safely. I hope they may enjoy their new years with their family members.
I just wised H&Y wouldn't have grown so greedy with this product, most kickstarter backers never received their items and H&Y launched a couples of weeks later another crowd funding campaign on indie go-go which I dare believe nobody got theirs either and now their official website lies about global direct pre-orders shipping from this month of February to major retailers and buyers when backers are yet to see their items every ship out. I'm sure this product will satisfy those who fit the niche and are well made products, but in the middle of a pandemic to be that optimistic on their shipping expectations is misleading.
Right now as soon as workers workers come back from the Chinese new years, they'll have to be tested for covid and the manufacturer will only be allowed to resume production in small increments as workers get cleared from their covid tests. So we'll have a very slow start, for obvious reasons of course, but H&Y should be forward about that on the media with its buyers, keeping this info to backers who are longer complaining just for the sake of keeping sales is just wrong. I get global economy is a mess and everybody needs money, but to hold people's money hostage when you can't possibly meet demands and deliver the first 100 backers with their products is just bad for reputation and business. They made a mistake on my order and now I'm a 5 digit backer, when the guys at 3 digits don't even have theirs, I'll be surprised if I ever get to receive mine at all.
At least I hope they keep their workers safe and give them humane environment since covid has already claimed too many lives.
1:28 super clean lens 👌🏼😅
hi brandon Li grt solution. how does u compare this with a kase magetic filter kits with stepup rings? which one do u prefer practically?
Hi Brandon. I have two lenses: 70-200mm f2.8 Sigma ( filter size is 77mm ). And 50mm f1.8 Nikon ( filter size 52mm )
Can i use the same adapter and Revoring you use.
Thank you 🙏🏼
I just get cheap ulanzi rapid filter thingies and attach my ND to them which allows me to get rid of the filter in 1 easy movement (and I dont need to put in anywhere). Yes I have a dedicated ND to every lens that I one, which I find much more hustle-free than switching an ND to every new lens I attach. This system look too cumbersome for my taste though I admire an effort of solving an ND problem.
Brandon Hi - Do you have a link of where to buy the 3 Stop Magnetic ND filter? I can't find it anywhere. Thanks, Ivan
Just want to ask if i can stack multiple magnetic clip on filter? for example im going to combine the 3stop mag filter and mag black mist filter?
Thanks for the video, Couldn't you just use a cheaper step up ring for lenses or filters small than 67mm and twist the REVO on to that? Their adaptor you showed at 3:00 looks really bulky? Thanks. I usually have a 67mm Pro mist filter on my lens and was wondering if I could just attach the REVO to that? ALos looks like there is some heavy X pattern even on an 85mm lens. Wow
If they fixed the X Pattern it would be the best filter on the market... Such an amazing Invention.
If I wanted to add an additional ring to slide a teleprompter onto it would this be possible?
The X is pretty bad. Worse than the bulky design, but I like the concept.
do you see the x pattern from 6 and above or 5 and above?
Where can one get the updated version with the magnetic cap, +3 ND?
Hey Brandon, great video. I am having difficulty finding any shred of evidence that the additional 3-stop magnetic filter even exists. To me, that's a complete game changer for me and I'd love to purchase it, but I can't even find a photo anywhere. Any chance you know a place selling it?
Maybe I received a prototype. I recommend emailing them or sending a DM to their Instagram. I don’t know their plan with the magnetic filter.
Damn that's not usable at higher stops. Like at all.
I wonder how durable it will be in the long term. What about dirt, or whatever, getting between the blades and causing them to stick? One bump could deform/break those blades and make the adapter useless. Also from what i read you can NOT attach other filters - like diffusion - on top of this system right? What about a lens hood?
There will be magnetic filters available from H&Y soon. They will snap on like the one Brandon showed.
so we just need to buy ring size 67-82mm only, then if we have small lens we just add to buy step up ring ?
Good
Sir please make some cenimatic tutorial 🙏 lots of reviews past videos
You can use 67mm to 82mm or only 67 and 82?
Brandon new video? Watch ASAP haha
After 7 stops the dreaded X starts appearing.
Sorry already mentioned. Anothr reason to read at least a few comments first before adding your own.
Look like they don't sell they 3+stop filter any more :( Usually 6 or 7 is where I end up when I am outside, so this probably wouldn't work for me just by itself. Great review!
H&Y does have a magnetic filter set that includes 3 and 6 stop. Not sure if you can get it online but I saw it in Hong Kong
Hi.I just received my filter from Adorama. Where do you get the 3 stop magnetic filter and the lens cap? Thanks for the review.
I think the magnetic filter and cap were prototypes. Not sure if they’re for sale or not. You could DM H&Y on Instagram and probably get an answer
Do you get the x pattern and /or vignette have on the edges? And do you get any glare from the distance of the lens from the filters?
Ok I saw your comment on the x pattern but at about how many stops does it appear?
5 stops
I’d actually just love the adjustable thread adapter as a standalone without the questionable filters attached
Agreed, I already have a 72mm Hoya that does the job up to 8 or 9 stops. I’d like to screw that into a Revoring just for the flexible mount
They offer just the quick release thread adapter without the VND.
@@Shiznaft1 Where? Never seen it and that would be great. I would prefer that to a magnetic adaptor..
great concept but, this mounted on a gimbal might be a pain
can i use this without vnd? only the polarizer
good unbiased test. observation 6:18 not very color "neutral". Yikes! Nice mechanical design though.
No more step up ring 👏🏻
I don’t understand why manufacturers don’t let the option for the lens hood on vnd’s
The only variable ND usable for video is the one inbuild in Sonys professional cameras.
That's an electronic ND in the cinema cameras.
Twist it! Bop it! Pull it! Stop it!
Hi
I thought you never use filter ND?
Is it IR+ND?
not that I know of
My $8 Andoer VND does better at higher stops lol. Nevertheless, VND+CPL in 1 attachment is an innovative idea and other companies might follow suit.
Too many stops on single ND so not for me. I'll stay with my freewell and Poloar pro PM 1-5. I hate X pattern nds
Congratulations, that was a great commercial spot? What a great work ethic with your followers: make us a review of a bottle glass and we will choose. And your previous reviews? and I believed you.
the VND seems useless to me with all the patterning
On another CZcamsrs video it explains that there is a “W” indication on the ring. This is the limit you should turn your filter to if you use a lens wider than 16mm and this will avoid the X pattern.
The final version has marks for 1 through 5 stops and Max (10 stops). There is a chart on the H&Y website (hyfilters.co) that shows the setting recommended for a given focal length, to avoid the X.
I’ve been using the magnetic filter above 5 stops. But I think the best solution might be to use a Revoring thread adapter + another VND filter (you can screw in any filter). My Hoya VND does 8 stops with no X mark.
@@BrandonLiUnscripted how would this work? Replacing the existing filter seems not possible but I just starting to use mine
@@j-k116 which hoya is this (without the x pattern)?
@@BrandonLiUnscripted Please tell me what model of Hoya VND has 8 stops with no X mark
I have two of these filters coming and after watching this review I fear I have made a disastrous mistake. The X pattern is all through this footage and sample images. It’s horrible! I can only hope that Brandon did exactly what he said he did, and threw together a fast review and didn’t put any thought into talking about the results he got. It’s a train wreck as far as either the product or the review. I guess I’ll find out once my Revorings arrive. After watching this, I’m not happy about it at all. What a mess.
Is it possible to cancel for a refund? Personally I would just get the adapters and buy the PolarPro VNDs
I feel for you, I was going to order this, but now I will wait. I wonder if the H&Y magnetic holder has similar problems, if using circular polariser and a ND x10 filter, or is it something to do with how variable ND's work. tempted to buy the H&Y 100mm holder and Circular pol instead. I like the look of the rear polariser and magnetic filter holder on the front. I would try to cancel your order, maybe wait see if the X is still there on final product, if it is I think this will be a fail. its a shame as this look like a good product. Confused that the reviewer never referenced the X in his video.
Now that you have the filter could you tell us if you see the X pattern and from what stop and above?
Well, 10 stops is unusable! Maybe 5-7 stops with 3stop magnetic thing.
10 stop is good for long exposure photography
@@germancreatives88 unusable bcs of the vignette, otherwise I'd love to shoot with 10 stops.
insane X. No thank you ;)
I guess you can use it upto about 6 stops and then X pattern ruins it.
Hardly usable above ND5 with a lense wider than 36mm. For good results you need 50mm.
Hello photo colleagues, if you consider to buy, read this. My previous comment was removed, probably Brandon is H&Y paid fanboy and doesn't want my comment to help other photographers and removing negative feedbacks
1. The Lock mechanism is total trash and will not stay firmly, it not secure and will suddenly fall , like it happened to me, and I ensured it's very firm when attached.
2. The X shape pattern on ND is very visible and not usable after ND5.
3. There are no markings on ND after ND 5 to 10 ND , so you have to guess.
4. There is grainy pattern when using ND/CPL, compared to my other filters I own(Haida, Tiffen, Hoya).
The pins to control ND and CPL where supposed to be touched, to control ND and CPL, but every slight touch can lock out and drop the filter . No secure filter system at all. The company did not honor the warranty and didn't want to fix the filters within 1 week of use only. Shame
How much did they pay you not to mention that the thing doesn't work through the last third of its variable ND range?
Did you use your eyeballs to watch the footage?
@@BrandonLiUnscripted Indeed I did and I came up with a valid question that you just sidestepped there. Maybe you should be a politician.
I got no money. Zero. Not sponsored. And I showed exactly how it performs. Sorry you needed a verbal explanation as well.
The dark X pattern at 9 stops is awful.
Variable ND? Never more. With wide focal lengths is even worse.
Wish I knew that before ordering. Guess we all have to learn the hard way.
It's X pattern is very annoying, specially in this price range
X
Well well well... I can clearly see that sharpness is unacceptable at stacking the second filter! Not a good sign. This renders this thing a toy, not possible to be used at any professional shoot. It's a nice gimmick and will be reported on by many youtubers, but I doubt this will ever and should ever be used professionally...
Also: If you only have 1 to 5 stop usable ND, you might as well buy one Fixed ND 3 with highquality and adjust Aputure and Iso to get exposure you want.
Third: Why don't you speak about how easy it is to accidently unlock the filter! Doesn't seem very professional too, and fourth, why do I have a feeling that we won't see youtubers make a long term review about that twist holding strength..
Any way, good look spending your cash on these and prove me wrong :D
x pattern looks horrible.
horrible