"You Can't Fight City Hall AND The Railroad" NYS&W Utica NY Branch
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- čas přidán 2. 11. 2023
- Back in the late 1860s, residents of Utica NY's Schuyler Street waged a spirited fight against the City of Utica and the railroad regarding plans to lay tracks down the middle of their street. As you see here, they lost and trains continue to shake foundations of houses all up and down Schuyler St nearly 160 years on.
This video opens with a short New York, Susquehanna & Western freight heading south down Schuyler Street. Next, after switching off the bulkhead flat, the train is observed toughing its way up Paris Hill's 1.8% grade in Clayville, approximately 10.5 miles south of Utica.
Still on Paris Hill, the next scene is at the Summit Road crossing in Cassville.
The video concludes with scenes in Paris Station, a stone's throw away from Paris Hill's summit.
As always, the assistance of Witold, my faithful canine companion, in the making of this video is gratefully acknowledged.
Imagine being new to the area and you hear that bell while you’re inside your house. You run outside thinking it’s the ice cream man.
Greetings from Whitesboro, N.Y.
Greetings from Tonawanda NY.
Brave cat!!😳
I think that's the same cat that ran in front of the train in this video (black with white paws): czcams.com/video/3E05tDTW7t0/video.html
Love how you used the term, "they got railroaded"! About those feral cats trying to use up all 9 lives.......i do HO scale modeling, my cat has, on occasion, jumped up on the train table, 42 inches above the floor, sat on the track, only to quickly jump off when a train approaches......i guess he doesnt want to get run over by an HO train 🙄🤔🤣🤣🤣🤣😼😸😲😨😱❗
Great Video!! I lived in Utica for many years, I enjoy seeing the NYS&W!
Seen from Europe, street running trains are a mix of magic and time-space paradox. But someone told me one day that at La Grange KY they were offered to move the tracks out the village and they didn't accept it, despite the fact tant "their" trains are long freighters that take up to 9 minutes to cross, and ring their bells anytime 24 hours. Actually they have different activities on that street, many of them railroad related. Same at Ashland VA, although that's not strictly street running, but crossing the town, they were offered to have insonorizating walls built, which were not accepted, either, because the walls would hide shops and businesses. I dream of travelling to La Grange and Ashland.
Another fine video from Morrisville NY.
There’s something about train whistles. Awwww Witold, you look comfy. R&R & Witold, bundle up weather is getting colder by the day.
Wow, that was so cool, love street running! (Dave).
I have a lot of stories of going up and down on Schuyler St. with the trains.Took off a few mirrors on some parked cars.
It's kinda funny to see drivers weighing their options and quickly deciding the train can have the whole road to itself. In all fairness, tho, it has to be a little scary to be peaceably driving along and suddenly realizing there's a locomotive cruising the same street you are.
Seeing a train in the middle of the road is old hat for most residents of West Utica. However, it's quite a different story for drivers viewing the train occupying the road for the first time!
*_Witold looks tired ! Looks like he's ready for a nap._* 😪😪
I can assure you he doesn't look so sleepy when the mailman comes a-callin'!
Thanks again for being out there and filming. It makes me home sick for NY state, but it also helps me feel connected.
That is so cool coming right through the neighborhood... Can do some front porch railfanning there. Love the video !!!
I was just in Utica on 11-04-2023 on Amtrak trains 48 and 281 !
Will the Santa train be in Utica this year? If yes do you know when?
Thanks for getting out and catching these trains for us all to enjoy!🤠
Yes, go here and check for the Polar Express adirondackrr.com/
@@railroadingrambler218 Great thanks for the information! 🤠
A fantastic video, it's always interesting when the train runs through the city. Thanks for showing and best regards from Germany
We have the same setup here in York, PA. A set of rail road tracks in the middle of the street on Pershing Avenue.
Love the street running. I am wondering, how often do they have to replace ties since asphalt is on top?
Nice! I'm gonna binge watch all your videos one of these days. When the train crosses Oriskany Street near the tower, it's crossing the paved over original Erie Canal. And, when the train finishes its street running at Noyes Street, it's running right next to the paved over Chenango Canal (now the Arterial). I never knew that when I was growing up in Utica.
Correct! Glad you enjoy the videos!
Always love your videos! Did you see the forklift scoot around you? That was not something you see every day! You and Witold stay well, it's getting colder out, brrrr!!
Yes, forklift from McQuade & Bannigan located just behind where I was videoing. Glad you like the videos!
Used to do street running in Brooklyn New York
That's just absolutely cool.
Love the NYS&W paint scheme, glad one of those is back. Seen a lot of videos (probably some from you) where they were using CSX power on this branch.
Thats how you pronounce Schuyler?!? I got stuck at the railroad crossing on Oriskany while you filming this late to work. It was like seeing a unicorn in the wild.
There is something hipnoktic about street running trains
Beautiful shots!!! Thanks for sharing!
Now THAT’S a road train!!!!
Hey railroad rambler always fun watching trains on NYSW RR. Still hoping one to see line open all the way to Binghamton one day
I hear they’re putting new ties and ballast in at Loomis Rd, 2 miles south of Sangerfield. No idea why
Thanks for sharing
Hey, wait! That looked like my cat.
Been enjoying your videos since I found your channel this year. Question: do the train people blow their horn because they see you filming or they would be doing that anyway because of where you set up? Witold seems to be a fine companion. 😊
The engineer almost always is blowing the horn for crossings. Occasionally, I'll get a friendly blast or two directed my way. Witold is indeed a fine companion. He'll turn 10 soon and has been a great rail dog, lol.
I used to run outside w my grandson so he could signal to guys to honk the horn for him!! He got such a kick outta that 😂
Paris Hill scene very nice.
Thank you, that's been a favorite viewing point for me for many years.
Going at that slow speed, I don't think these trains are 'shaking foundations'
didn’t they usually build the town around the railroad?
There is a ton of feral cats around there!!! Thats how i got 2 of my cats! Sadly, they dont do trap and neuter around here 😢
@6:48 is that crossing bell broken?
Would it not be an idea to paint two yellow stripes on the road, marking the width of the train
I can agree to this. Questions are: Who will pay for the durable road line paint (snowplowing issues)? Who will approve of the painting such lines? Just how many feet/inches away from clearing any such railroad equipment?
Surely, any such lines will show any driver of their parallel parked vehicles on Schuyler Street just how far in from the tracks that they must park so to protect their vehicles.
How far south do NYS&W trains go now?
23 miles Utica to Sangerfield but I hear they're working on the tracks south of Sangerfield now, who knows what's up?
Actually the cities were built around the tracks. Why would they allow railroads to put tracks down the main road?
Good point!
They still supply the brewery ?
Yes, once or twice per week.
kind of wonder why no ditch lights.
Not required under 10 mph I believe
@@railroadingrambler218Well, anything is possible. They were on later in the video. Just not flashing. I don’t claim to know the rules.
This is insane. Why is this possibly being allowed in the 21st century? It's a street, with houses and kids and cars and cats. And every few hours, they let a 37 ton diesel engine tiptoe its way down the middle? I realize there was important cargo in the (ahem) three railroad cars it was pulling, couldn't live without that...
I'm a big fan of moving freight by railroad, it's far more efficient than moving it with 18-wheelers. But in this case, put me down on the side of folks who think it's frickin' crazy to run railroad trains down residential streets...
Far heavier than 37 tons more like 150 tons !😮
yea a citizen definitely has a better chance of fighting their local government than fighting anything associated with the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT... it's like fighting that mythical beast with 8 heads
Well people do have a choice just don’t live there !😂
train could go faster if people would stay out of the way
To be fair it is on a street and not a normal railroad
"The residents were opposed to the tracks being laid down the middle of the street". As rightfully they should have been. Full size track and train running down a residential neighborhood street, ludicrous IMO. A simple adage likely explains it, "follow the money". I'll bet dollars to doughnuts, "Payola:, involved. Wouldn't be the first time, certainly not the last. Now just a unique amusement in railroading, but for the residents at the time, "railroaded" indeed.
That's your interpretation of the historical background is it? They were bribed to run the tracks down the street? By whom and what might their ulterior motive have been?
@@AndreiTupolev Who stood to benefit by a full size commercial track down the middle of a residential neighborhood street, and who had the power to make it happen. Yes, that's my speculation, and I'm sticking to it. Follow the money. "Railroaded."
NIMBYs are probably complaining !😂
@@ernestpassaro9663 In this case wouldn't it be NIMFYs.😉