Why McLaren had to split with Daniel Ricciardo and what he wants to do next
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- čas přidán 23. 08. 2022
- McLaren and Daniel Ricciardo have made it official that they will go their separate ways at the end of 2022, meaning the Australian leaves the team after two years of his original three-year deal.
Confirmation of the early split brings a long-running saga to an end that looked inevitable as Ricciardo and McLaren failed to spark his 2022 season into life.
McLaren will not announce his replacement immediately, although current Alpine reserve Oscar Piastri is expected to land that seat - assuming it is cleared by the FIA’s Contract Recognition Board that McLaren, rather than Alpine, has a valid 2023 F1 contract with the Formula 2 champion.
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The part about him not being a technical driver is absolutely what cost him in the end. When he first moved to Mclaren, he didn’t even do much sim work in the MTC unlike lando who was there every day trying to understand the data. He should take some lessons from sainz, who makes up for what he lacks in absolute raw talent through technical prowess
when sainz moves to new teams, he moves right next to the headquarters and spends his days with the engineers/mechanics and doing sims to get acquainted with the car. It's why he went from Renault to McLaren and then McLaren to Ferrari with little to no issues. He works hard. Daniel does not, Daniel has been living on talent but he slacks off more than most top drivers. He isn't technical, but he's also lackadaisical in his approach... it caught up to him now though.
Man's career has went downhill ever since leaving RB. Escaped from RB to avoid being a #2 driver just to be a #2 driver at a team that can't even build a championship contending car to now being ejected for the newest hot talent. This is nearing Alonso's levels of career choices.
At least Alonso is a two time WDC. And has no reputation of getting beaten by a teammate this badly nor driving this badly.
This is one of the funniest comments I've read in a long time period comparing Daniel to a man who has 2 championships and won far more races as laughable.
Not yet, Alonso has had a few more wrongly timed moves..
He drove really well at Renault, it was only when he went to McLaren that the results were not there.
He hasn't moved to an absolute back marker team tho (McLaren Honda)
I know Lando isn’t technically a rookie anymore but he’s still a young gun and it’s gonna be interesting to see to Young guns on McLaren together I think it’ll work out well though
*two*
Honestly a driver with 4 seasons of experience, especially with the same team, should be experienced enough to lead a team.
Lando should have the upper hand in their first season together. After that, who knows!
@@luispittairline339 Lando is definitely the lead driver for McLaren for a while 🤞
Hopefully they build a decent car for next year.
I think that, similar to the McLaren Honda situation, the best thing to do for both parties was to split up. McLaren can get a driver that is able to adapt more to the car caracteristics, and Ricciardo can get a seat where he performs better and gets more out of the car.
@paper plane Had Honda stayed with McLaren, the engine wouldn't have become as good as it did, so a works team wouldn't have amounted to much. McLaren needed to lose Honda to realize its chassis shortcomings and change itself enough to go back to a competitive form.
@@tuffmanchannel McLaren 2022 looked the worst to me, Elyes.
@paper plane yup. McLaren started to go downhill again in 2022.
@VERY EVIL PERSON FROM ILLUMINATI It could've, yes. But the way the McLaren team was at that point, they NEEDED to be forced to change or they wouldn't change on their own. Losing Honda was the way to do that. It's kinda like someone breaking up with you because you weren't a certain way, and only then do you realize how far you've fallen and start working on yourself. That's how I see it.
@@purwantiallan5089 They've fallen short of expectations for sure, but I think it's only a temporary setback. The team is getting its resources ready to produce better cars, and they have the necessary technical minds to make something good.
I'll be honest after last year I'm surprised they had hope in him for the second year , some moves just don't work out . Maybe that alpine seat is where he belonged all along or maybe him and kmag are gonna be future podium lockers with Haas . It's sad but at the same time im interested in seeing where this leads .
The hope was with nee regulations the grid would be determined on skill and not the car, but it ended up being 90% the car being the reason teams are good, and McLaren for some reason either didn't want to or couldn't make Daniels car suit his style
It was because of the new cars & he improved in 2nd half of 2021.
@@WindowLicker_-9 You think that Adrian does around asking Perez and Max how they would like the car??? He just makes a fast car, and is the job of the driver take everything from it, thats why they get paid...
@@jacobitosuperstar ofcourse they are asked how they like the car, or better, the 1st driver is asked
@@jacobitosuperstar one of the drivers most important jobs is to give useful feedback to the engineers to help driver the direction of the development of the cars. Newey and the other RB engineers are constantly talking to both of the drivers about the car and the development.
It is strongly understood that the reason perez has dropped off in recent races is because they've chosen to follow maxs feedback and the direction of development that max prefers. It is understandable why cos max is the better driver
Just competitively… if I was alpine I’d offer DR a 1 year deal with a low salary and big performance bonuses.
That way you get a good deal and only 1 year if he doesn’t perform - but if he does both the team is rewarded with points etc and DR gets $ and a contract extension.
Honestly though - I don’t think DR is getting on with the new cars and no team change will fix that (imo).
Yeah, his driving style seems to have translated the least to the new cars
i think once the areo gets refined to a point simillar to where the 2019 cars were compared to the start of the widebody regs in '17 DR will have a decent opportunity to get back or at least closer to his best, even if i dislike the guy as a public personality i can't deny it'd be golden to see him return competitively speaking
@@manuelmanterola7070 how and why do you dislike him? He has the most likeable personality.
@@Mikkeen2 he left two teams hanging, cost a team principal his job. Overpaid and under performing. My reasons for not liking him.
@@mohammadnashitsiddiqui2168 2 teams hanging ? RB were full tilt behind VER, don't think he left them hanging
That Danny Ric quote broke my heart. I know he hasn’t been performing well, but wish him the best
Yep. 2023 Danny Ric may move down to NASCAR Trucks.
You can sugar coat this any way you like but Ricciardo has not been performing at McLaren over the last year and a half,so therefore McLaren had no option but to get rid of him.
If he'd been performing at the same level as Norris then McLaren would have finished 3rd in 2021 and be comfortably 4th this year.
No question that DR has underperformed and I understand why McLaren needs to drop him. But if he had performed as well as Norris, McLaren would be comfortably 4th, and still a very long way off third. 2022 Norris has certainly performed much better than Ricciardo but significantly worse than 2021 Norris. A comfortable 4th is still a very long way off where Zac wanted the team to be. Lando is also underperforming and McLaren is a long way off where they should be. Change drivers all you like, but the reality is that McLaren's problems extend well beyond Danny Ric's performance and, unless there is some sneaky plan coming, changing drivers will fix little. Head of the mid field maybe, but a long way off a competitive threat to the top teams. The Piastri/Ricciardo side show is just a distraction and papering over some big cracks at McLaren.
is that you captain obvious? who is sugar coating?
@@1greenMitsi OP is one of those people who now has an irrational dislike of DR now that he's not performing well and has been booted from McLaren. OP sees this video going over the technical aspects of the cars and different driving styles, and what made DR so vaunted in the first place, as sugar coating.
@@loblolly777 Ricciardo in 2023 i think may join Kimi in NASCAR Cup.
Also in alpine / Renault he was a bad driver
The Race delivers again!! Being an Aussie I have been keenly watching many CZcams posts with regard to Ricco. The Race is the only channel that steers clear of over hyping the gossip and rumors, puts their technical and honest views at the forefront and backs it up with straight forward knowledge. Thank you to The Race team for your continued efforts👏
Deon, hope 2022 Spa GP is a good one.
The First mistake was to leave Redbull. The second? Leaving renault
Leaving Red Bul was understandable. Leaving Renault a bit less.
The speed comparison chart between teammates was very interesting. He was basically faster than everyone, (even vettel) except for Max in the final two years at Red Bull. And even there he was very close. I personally don't think he forgot how to drive or just lost it. I think he just can't come to terms with that car, which is interesting for someone of his caliber.
Agreed, I think the car (RBR) was just a PERFECT match for his driving style - which enabled him to win so many races. However, the sign of a great racer is being able to come to terms with changes in cars - he hasn't. Kind of like checo this season for RBR. Same thing, start of the season the car was much more normalised and generic, but as we've moved on they have made the car front bias to suit max, a well known harder driving style and look, checo has fallen off.
Danny is a good example why you shouldn't base on one seasonal change comparison, and call it a day. People saw his performance over Vettel in 2014 in a brand new car and regulations, and said, Vettel was over, and the praise for Danny was that he will be one of the all time greats. Of course, Vettel went over to Ferrari and got close to 2 titles and had plenty of racing left. Nobody thought Danny would be left behind in Mclaren like this, but I guess sometimes it's just the wrong synergy, wrong car, and wrong team. Put him in a top 3 team and he'd be a title contender again probably.
@@KeenJT And yet, it's easy to see over the past 15 years, that 'great racers' don't always 'come to terms' with just any car. Alonso? 2 WDC, then struggled with all sorts of uncompetitive cars. Vettel? 4 WDC, then the same problem Hamilton? 1WDC, then years of 'not coming to terms' with the cars that McLaren had for him, and when he move to Mercedes, all of a sudden, he's magically able to 'come to terms' with a different team's car? No; in today's racing climate, the fine mesh of the right driver and the right car are all important to a successful paring. There are many drivers who simply aren't in the right car, at the right time.
@@d.e.b.b5788 it also helps if the team develops your car around you...
From years spent sim racing, there are few things more frustrating than repeatedly not being able to find lap time that others are finding in the same car, especially when you’ve had a lot of success in the past. Hoping Ricciardo lands in a spot where he can find his form again and compete for wins
That's the difference in talent at thr top level of a sport. No amount of social media antics can cover for it
@@sepg5084 Exactly and I understand certain drivers are very likable, but being a fan favorite won’t make you successful.
I agree... I'm just a leisure sim racing driver... Doing mostly cruises, barely any races.. But I'm driving with a group of people, and we sometimes have a challenge. So I'd say I'm not too bad but in a recent challenge I became 3rd and the best one (girl) was 30 seconds faster on the lap. 30 SECONDS??? [okey, the lap is a 40km long bendy mountain road]... Yeah, I'm sure, I can... shrug of probably 5 seconds from my lap by taking more risks and practicing more. But 30 seconds? That is a margin, that kills my motivation to even try. Very frustrating! And I do not mean it in a way, that I'm not happy/proud for the winner. It just kills my own drive literally. Pushing more will only lead to mistakes and getting worse results.
thing is, Ricciardo never took sims all that seriously for years.
@@kreiseltower hahahah oh no! For vast majority of us sim racers there’s always someone whose faster, I remember seeing that amount of time when I played Dirt Rally and the top time posted for a stage was like 30 secs faster than my time that I thought was pretty fast!
Btw, just seeing Ricciardo at Belgian GP practice yesterday and Norris was about 7/10ths faster…
The bottom line is he is an incredibly nice guy but the reality is he is paid an enormous amount of money to produce results and he was given every opportunity to do just that and he simply didnt. Making so much of Monza last year is foolish: Ocon also won a race but so bloody what? Who cares:
Yeah Monza was a great victory but Norris was right behind in P2. Sounds harsh, but on his best day he only just beat Norris
@@toodsf1 Daniel was P1 on merit. Norris inherited positions from Lewis and Max colliding; Daniel did not. How many race wins does Norris have?
@@toodsf1 Norris was also seemingly faster and told not to push for the lead.
I see people talking about that a lot saying Ricciardo would have still win if Max and Lewis didn't crash but I call bullshit. No way he would hold them off all race regardless of what he did in qualifying.
@@Jay-wm8qr lando was ahead of lewis and max before they crashed…
Can't see Ricciardo being off the grid in the near future, but he's going to be on a very tight contract next year no matter what. Hopefully he can find his form again
His form is too well hidden, behind his stacks of cash.💰💰💰
I think people are forgetting that both K Mag and Albon came back after a year off, so did Ocon in 2020 and Ric achieved more than all 3. He can always be back even if its a year off
I have an idea that i havent heard mentioned. Zhou Guanyu was an Alpine rookie, he is on the grid and he doesnt have a contract. If Alpine want a young driver with som promise, possibly similar in pace with Ocon, then Alpine could possibly buy out Zhou from Alfa Romeo, and then replace him with Theo Pourchaire, which could be good both for Alpine and Alfa.
I completely forgot he was an alpine academy driver. Thanks for pointing it out
I had the same thoughts, Zhou will bring a whole different level of resources, engineers, sponsors etc.. then getting one of ferrari Bois in Ocon's seat and they might have a title run at hand
That's the only scenario that makes sense to me
Zhou has been good as a rookie, better than Yuki
zhou broke all ties to alpine after he signed to alfa though
I like this, no hard feelings between Ric and the team. They talked about it, they understand it is not working not matter how hard they try, so they will go their separate ways, wishing all the best to each other. If it´s real and not just PR fairytale then I am impressed by both parties.
Some very short memories in the comment section, there were very clear reasons for DR to leave RB and Renault. RB dropped the ball with DR in his last two seasons with him, he should have won more races but they were too pre-occupied with MV as #1. DR leaving RB and RB's failure to find a good replacement has forced RB to change how they treat the 2nd driver.
Renault were not sure if they would even continue in F1, so hard to complain about a driver finding a ride elsewhere.
Honourable that Maclaren kept him for that long tbh. RB would make him disappear before end of first season!
They literally cut his contract short
Red Bull are ruthless in every motorsport category, look at KTM in MotoGP, they want to give opportunity to every young sportsman
@@KebunH if you're in a performance based role you'll be lucky to stay 2/3s of your contract if you are not performing. In normal world you won't get decent severance package like he has either!
What went wrong is he failed to adapt
What went wrong?
The stopwatch is what went wrong!
How likely is it that Gene tugs those nascar ties he’s got to negotiate a deal where Danny can race in F1 for a couple mor years, then maybe swap to Stewart-Haas in nascar eventually?
That would, surely, ne a fun proposition. After all, Daniel is just a NASCAR driver born in the wrong country.
"we gonna go fast and turn left" Cartman voice
@@clubracergt1 Ricciardo should try Super GT or WRC.
no flame but NASCAR for an F1 driver is like hopping on an electric scooter after winning Moto GP.
I think everyone would agree with me that one of the biggest "what if" in F1 is what if Ric would have stayed in RB
Max would obliterate him
He would be Max's Mark Webber most likely.
He would have been destroyed by Max.
@@therealquaid1694 he's actually the only one who could keep up with Max among all team mates. Max destroyed Gasly Albon and Perez, with Ricciardo they were always close.
But yeah Helmut Marko would've screwed him left right and centre, so leaving was really the only option.
I don't think it would have changed a lot. He might have gotten a few more wins, but already in 2018 Red Bull were betting on Max to be the next "Hamilton-beater", and personally i think Max is a better driver.
Great piece of work this video. Go The Race and thanks for helping me better understand some of dynamics at play for Ricco
Let's give some recognition here for ol mate doing a fantastic job explaining F1 issues in great detail...I can't remember his name atm . Excellent video as always champ.
Can’t seeing Renault/Alpine or RedBull/AlphaTauri wanting him back.
Ricciardo should retires at this point if his mindset is really only staying to when a f1 title it’s just not realistic anymore unfortunately
the title ambitions have long since faded haha he's only in the grid for the fun and the paychecks
You do realise everyone in F1 right now have ambitions of winning a title, right?
Loved the detailed explanation. Best recardo video since this all began
It always struck me as incredible that he would struggle in non-F1 interviews to explain how the cars worked to the interviewers. His raw speed is unquestionable; he's got it. The problem seems to be that if things aren't working, he seems to lack the ability and understanding to use the technical analysis all the drivers get to adapt and stay faster than his teammate. Very frustrating. He seemed a perfect fit for the new generation of McLaren, which to me was a racing team again rather than the technology business it became under Dennis. I think McLaren really worked to make this work, too. Perhaps DR really is better suited to a series like Indy where the focus on racing rather than insanely fine margins plays to his natural talents.
He would struggle in an Indycar. They have been ground effects cars(like the 2022 F1 car) for the past 30 years. But in saying that, the mechanics there might know how make a car rotate better with less weight on nose, seeing that the Indycars braking ability is a bit less. So I could be wrong!
Rics downfall began with the unnecessary switch to Renault from the much more competitive Red Bull team. He went for the better salery instead of deciding for the better sportive challenge. This decision had an big impact onto his own capabilities as a driver, as the struggling Renault team, did not even give a glimpse of hope to fight for a win. Two podiums in two seasons are not enough to keep a sword like Dani Ric sharp.(As he is not at all an analytic driver, that just can deliver programmed processes. He is more of a natural instinctive driver.)
Bruuh You have no videos
Are you sure? I think he decided during quali at Austria when the team said to switch the cars, so Dan could get a tow off of Max and Max said "No"... The handwriting was on the wall... I'm not second driver to anybody. I'm not sure Dan needed the money even at that point, but if you're going to hawk your wares on the open market - ask for all you can get and see who flinches first.
Funny how you literally left out how him and Red Bull relationship was terrible. They choose Max over him and they even support Daniel noticable less. Hell retirements due to the team not supporting his car, strategy calls that supported max but hurt Daniel. He was right to leave. There was no other competitive team available and Renault at the time was looking promising.
@@YuriJohnson man shut up... he didn't want to compete and max clearly was the better up and coming talent. Why did Ricciardo leave Renault for a worse seat? many just make excuses for Ricciardo, but if he was anybody else people would honestly question his own skills... which you should question at this stage.
@@FreddyMacT you sound triggered but obviously you didn’t see Daniel’s career at Red Bull. He really was seen as a up and coming great. Obviously at McLaren it didn’t work but we can’t just question his past years
Leaving RB was Danny Ric's worst decision.
1st vettel
2nd ric
3rd Verstappen maybe
To me it seems like the 2022 cars are also limited by the front grip... But Pirelli is trying to bring new tires for 2023 that would try to compensate for the lack of front downforce (compared to rear)
This sounds very familiar to when Alonso left Renault to go to mclaren in 2007 and then went back to Renault. Let's see if history repeats itself with Daniel!
I always thought Ricciardo was overrated. I think he got good reputation and high expectations from when he was at RB, which he could not live up to. I think he jumped team before they/others could realize how, well, overrated he is.
@Nic B Like Max had DNF in 2017
@Nic B Beat Vettel and Max. Lol If he was that great he wouldn’t have run from the fight and heck, would at least match Lando. He’s got more ego than talent.
@Nic B 2018 was change of guard, Baku was clear example
He beat seb in his first year at rb
@@0megalul309 No longer relevant. Seb was going to Ferrari and wasn’t motivated in 2014. How does it feel to see him get destroyed by Lando so bad that his contract got cancelled?
I think Alpine should think twice about signing Ricciardo, because of his inability to adapt his driving to the car. Drivers that can't do that can always struggle, and it's not really wise to design a car around a driver, in my opinion. Drivers that can adapt are what you really need in F1 right now.
@paper plane fernando alonso
@@no1washerezz fernando is fricking out of this world. he deserves more recognition
Great video 👌
First music name?
I don't see it working out at Alpine but if they can get him on lower wages, he does have a pull. At his best he is a massive asset and if it doesn't work out on a 1yr contract, they can see what's available.
It would be funny if Oscar had to repay all the financial support he received from Alpine.
I'm glad to hear finally. This was bringing him down and affecting his driving more and more. Hopefully he can relax now and thrash the Sh#% out of that car until the end of the season. I'd like to see him stick it up them and win and also win again somewhere else. Hopefully an option opens. I still hope he can get back in with Alpine but HAAS appear to be benefitting from new regs and are going places he and Magnusson will be good for developing that car and team. He and Albon together will also encourage more investment in the Williams too. There is no reason why that team cant be better now with new owners recently.
Next year is going to be critically for him, if he underperforms another year he will probably not get any offers from any team. However he has the possibility to return to his previous form now that he is changing team
Wise choice for the Mic - but really Ricardo whata you going to take up tennis
alpine and ricciardo seem like a match made in (revenge) heaven. The amount of potential drama and on track action next year if they are close would be amazing
Alpine wont take hime, even if his free with no need to pay.
I wouldn't like to see my sweet Danny next to a toxic rat like Ocon.
Hope he scores another win before leaving & next year if he scores a seat I would love to see him finishing ahead of both Maclarens
Are we going to ignore that Redbulls and Renaults had same engine and engine maps. Thats what helped him and he had a team behind him which was dedicated to make him faster by what he wants out of the car not how he should adapt to the car. Cyril was a fan. McLaren is data driven team and they need exceptional raw talented people with technical know how and they are very very serious people. It doesn't work for DR. Honestly he should go to Williams. A silent revival is going on there and with a chance of williams switching to Renault engines anyway I think it will be a perfect place where he is comfortable.
the possibility of a renault switch was based on the piastri deal, so not really sure that will go down
"Bear riding a bike without technical knowledge" - brilliant😆👏👏👏
He should've never left rb and Renault
Maybe the best way to motivate the money badger is to make a deal like Kimi's where he would get a certain amount for every points he scored.. perhaps then he will actually regains his form..
Cuz if he is relying on the last stand of his reputation.. I pity the team that bought the pitch of his previous glory days at red bull
Well, that deal almost caused the lotus f1 team to go bankrupt
@@stavrosloudis6526 yup, the best thing to do is be honest. No big team is coming for Daniel, the only seats open are mid to bottom. The guy is getting paid to not drive for a year, cut a low deal 7-8M for a year... because doing a multi year deal with Daniel is dangerous unless there is a clear out for underperformance. Either Daniel and his team accept it, or there's no seat. At this stage you view Daniel as a risk and not a sure thing.
@@FreddyMacT agree, at this point he doesn't need money and I don't think he is looking for money either
I´ve always loved his attacking style and I would be really sad to see him go...
Simplest summary. Performance and Oscar Piastri (once he's confirmed to leave Alpine Academy to McLaren.)
No need for a long wording as Alonso - Alpine rift earlier before the summer break gives out a massive clue.
For Ricciardo, Alpine reunion is possible but I'm also thinking of other teams as well.
I made the prediction on a video last year that his career at McLaren would be a failure and overall think he’s an overrated driver (despite how great of a person he seems to be). Fast forward a couple days from then and he won at Monza and everyone said I should eat my words. I’m really glad to be able to say now that I was right.
@James Norelli It astounds me how many chances everyone gives this dude. He’ll be force retired due to poor performance and people will still be saying stuff like this. How many teams and years is it gonna take before people realize he’s washed up?
Pat yourself on the back.
@James Norelli It wasn't addressed to you.
@James Norelli you’re very polite and I appreciate that about you
I'm surprised he is still being chased by any F1 teams. 4 years of poor results - most drivers wouldn't come back from that.
@Nic B Ricciardo himself has been quoted many times saying his results have not been good enough, since leaving RB. Everyone knows it.
One of the great cases of foot shooting of a career by a driver. If he was going to leave Red Bull, at least he should have gone to a team that was somewhere close to them or better in terms of competitiveness.
Sure Norris is doing well in the car (as he should after being in the team for 5 years and this is the only F1 team he has ever known), but people need to stop assuming that if you have a bad time at Mclaren means youre done for, refer to Alonso (2x), Button, Vandorne, Hamilton, Magnussen, Perez, Sainz and now Ricciardo. All of these people have either left Mclaren or been dismissed by Mclaren in the last 10ish years. And for all those names, only 1 has won a race for Mclaren, Mr DR.
All good man. My boy Ric is getting the big bag. Sometimes things just dont work out so no sweat. I would love to see Ric back in Alpine and schooling Ocon like he did in 2020 or better go to Haas to team up with K-Mag.
Haas is the last stop of the F1 train. Even with the leg up they were given in this year's car preparation they are suffering mightily and gone half the season without an update, I think HAAS will be the next team to be sold.
"Exactly", to the original comment. It happens. Moving on. The video says "Why Mclaren had to split with Ricciardo".. I would say the opposite is also true. Lets not forget how these guys have been treating this matter and even made it very clear in their ratings on the first races.
Ocon however may be a problem.. he is competitive and eager to be nr1. At the same time, Gasly is a strong candidate for 2024 at Alpine.
@@JoaoSilva-on4od For some reason, no-one wants to drive for Alpine (even though it's the best of the rest team this season), lol 🤣
I hope Mclaren’s new wind tunnel and simulator have the desired effect, otherwise Mclaren are going to start running out of excuses for their lack of progress up the grid.
- First it was Honda’s fault.
- Then it was Renault’s fault.
- Then it was Mercedes’ fault with a slow 2022 power unit.
- Now Ricciardo is the main problem.
Will James Key fall on his sword if his new tools don’t move the team forward in 2024?
One of the very few intelligent comments here. I totally agree with you. People fail to see Mclaren's patterns.
@@JoaoSilva-on4od well, at least Lando had better results than Ric.
And Mclaren never said that Ric is the main problem, only keyboard warriors do.
That bit at 5:02 to 5:20+ of Daniel Ricciardo calling Otmar is so hilarious
XD
Good summary of the situation but most of the video doesn't have much if anything to do with the thumbnail's question of "what went wrong"
I have also long noticed that Daniel Ricardo uses his settings a lot less than other drivers. Some drivers will adjust their cornering settings they’re deaf and so on from corner to corner each lap often adjusting their settings 10 to 20 times a lab Ricardo does not do so he fiddles with his settings on his wheel maybe a couple times per lap and I’ve watched on boards of every driver every race as a gamer I just like to see what drivers are doing and how often they’re on their controls. I think this is something to do with Ricardo’s innate style he prefers to drive instinctively and naturally rather than mess with the settings and optimise everything to its limit
Did you guys had this video ready from a couple weeks ago dint you guys?
Large chunks of it at least as the situation was quite predictable.
I just hope Piastri can adapt to the McLaren and show his talent. Would be a shame if his promising career was hampered by a quirky car
I’m really glad Andreas Seidel has taken responsibility on behalf of McLaren that it didn’t work out between them and Danny, because it is partly on them that they couldn’t make a car work to his liking. Seb Vettel showed clearly during his Red Bull years how having a car that suits your style to a T can go, and he struggled with cars that weren’t to his liking. The same could be said for Daniel (obviously he’s never had a championship worthy car tho).
An area not mention about DR is has had always been in a Renault powered car, which would be much different in drivability compared to the McLaren Merc engine. McLaren have always been a team based on technical understanding and development not about raw and natural. Only a few top drivers ever get it right in their whole career. DR is not very good at adapting to the constant changes required throughout an F1 season to the maximum. Alonso is one of the best at doing this. To be top 3 you need to adapt even if it’s not to your liking.
why would McClaren have given Ricciardo a 3 year contract in the first place? it's not like he was the shit. 2 years would have been better for all parties.
So sad it ended up this way! I hope Ric can find a good seat for the future..I think he was the first driver to bring sort of "fresh air" in F1 with his jokes and just being him.
Alpine should be allowed to have Ricciardo for a test drive. Preferably before the end of the season or at least soon thereafter. There he can prove his worth and it’s a fair deal for both driver and team.
Lando Norris vs. Daniel Ricciardo:
• Quali average: 7.37 - 10.3
• Race average: 7.09 - 9.42
And they have a generational talent incoming with Oscar Piastri. It's a no brainer.
add Daniels ridiculous wage aswell
@@russell6075 They probably settled at another amount(maybe half) + they probably take Piastri and giving him low wage first year. Still better for McLaren
@@valentin7436 Ricciardo was paid 20M$/€ per year
Rookies rarely get paid a lot so it's likely that Piastri is gonna earn about a tenth of that
@Nic B that "no win" teammate has been carrying the team for 2 years while Danny has been a walking marvel movie
@Nic B the teammate who gets all the points?
I don't think Ricciardo going to Alpine... I remembered they part ways really bad. While Haas can offer ownership like Sauber did with Raikonnen...
They did but that was with the old management
@@phodge9985 well... With current events I dont think they are much better XD; but time will say. Hope he gets the best car
@@CarlosZ34NSM correct!; but a 10 to 15% is pretty good
Great video
Anyone know how channels like this make their graphics?
for me, not being a “technical” driver is unforgivable. you’re paid 25 millions a year, you better know everything there is to know about that car and give feedback to the team. all greats did it.
Blood in the water , all the Haters come out chopping. SMH
I am no expert ok but I find it hard to fathom that the guy couldn’t find a way. The best drivers either find a why to adjust to the car they have or eventually adjust the car to their driving style in conjunction with the team.
Never seen such a defeated experienced skilled driver .....I would rather him leave the team than the sport! He would have retired if he stayed another year
He has a personality cult followers but you can only live on that reputation for so long. If you can’t drive fast or give good feedback to the team, you’re better off being an influencer, not an F1 driver.
Ricciardo will leave F1. He can't drive this style of car quickly enough.
What is happening now is exactly what I feared for Dani when he left RB. He was a hot commodity at that time so maybe was a smart move at the time but he had a good place and RB would have been better having him the last 4 years. I hope he can find a seat.
The obvious problem at Red Bull, was they were obviously keen on making Max their #1 driver, and Daniel knew that so he jumped ship.
@@d.e.b.b5788 absolutely and I can't fault not being into that. And we also do not know if dani would have been a fit for the RB these last few yrs but it certainly seems he would have a lot more wins and podiums if he had stayed. Hindsight always 20/20 though it's hard to fault the guy for making the decision he did at the time with the info he has.
Can’t help but think Alpine are not interested in Ricciardo, or they would’ve announced it as a swap with Piastri, not as a contract termination.
It would be embarrassing for Alpine to come crawling back to him, after how he jumped ship at the first possible opportunity.
If Alpine can't get Gasly out of his contract, they should get Wehrlein.
More like Ricciardo crawling back to Alpine after ditching them
@@GMOD18 Yeah, it's like trying to get back together with the ex you dumped lol
Wehrlein has renewed for Porsche in Formula E
I recently started getting back into F1 in the last couple years. So I never really knew how some of these drivers got to where they are. In my eyes that guy lost it all the second he left RB. All he had to do was give Max some space.
All he had to do was race, he left because Max was showing he's on another level compared to Ricciardo. Dumb move because they would have been a great 1-2 and would have been able to compete for constructor's titles.
@@stpbasss3773 you sound like a hindsight expert, RIc should hire you. Max was on another level - is that why Ric bet him in the first 2 championships together?
@@1greenMitsi I'm not saying right when Max joined. I meant different level title contender wise. Even if Max never raced I doubt Ricciardo would have won a title at Red Bull like Max did.
DTS will miss him
I worry how any settlement will affect Mclaren next year under the budget cap
Drivers pay isn't in the cost cap.
There's always hope for DR to be honest Max verstappen was having a hard time with their new car because it was a certain way and checo was starting to eat at him, then they changed so Max can handle the car better and bow checo is losing out, it's all about the no1 if Norris is fast the way the car is and scoring points and podiums, there's no need to change for the other driver because no1 is who your looking at, shame DR couldn't adapt, he is honestly not just a nice guy, but with the right car he can make things special
Daniel is too expensive, and on a steep decline. Piastri over him is the right pick, and I’d still choose a junior over him if I was any of the other teams with open spots. The upside just isn’t there, unfortunately.
time to get it back the end. lets go mate
The issue is mate that in 2022 the DNA of the car stayed the same from the 2021 car amid the new technical regulations so the same problems that were there with the ML35 carried over over the the ML36.
It took Schumacher 5 seasons to win a championship title with Ferrari .
Modern drivers and teams want instant results. 🙄
Michael was consistently winning races though, not stuck with 19 points in P12 of the drivers championship while his teammate has 76 and is in P7.
Schumacher was already 2 time world champion when he joined Ferrari. Riccardo does not have the same pedigree. He also won races and challenged for the title before 2000. Riccardo on the other hand has one lucky race win and nothing else to show
This is a very different era. Also, Ric has been absolutely awful. It would be one thing if he and Norris were trading punches but that is not the case.
this would make sense if he was close to norris. Hes miles away from a kid its embarrassing hes paid to much to give those results
Schumacher won races every season and came close to the title in 97 and 98
And probably would have won 99 if not for the leg break
Not exactly the same....
He should just move to Indycar and do what Romain did in his rookie season by only competing in the road courses/street tracks. CGR has an opening if Alex can get out of there, or he could go to Andretti if they want to boot Defranchesco
I’d LOVE to see him in Indycar! I think the cars would be much more suited to his style, plus he loves America and America loves him.
It breaks my heart to see such potential wasted by bad career moves or just pure bad luck.
I don’t think any other driver has ever changed teams to a completely opposite style of car and got on well the first year. The difference in year two is that he doesn’t have the technical understanding that Vettel has to adapt. Doesn’t mean he’s a bad driver at all, imagine if you put Norris in the rb16b. He’d be spinning with the back end holding most of the strengths in the car. If anything this experience for ricciardo will make him faster next season if he races for alpine since he already has a fair amount of understanding for what he might need to do and won’t need to try as hard to adjust.
Gasly got wrapped up in the technical aspect of his racing, which is why he was so bad at Red Bull. Ricciardo was forced into doing the same because of his racecraft, so in reality it probably isn’t just because he’s better with a completely different car-it’s a mental game he will never win. Anyone who thinks he doesn’t have it anymore is dead wrong, and I question your understanding of drivers’ preferred car strengths as a whole if you think that isn’t the main reason he struggles so much.
I'm sure he's absolutely kicking himself for leaving Renault, he'd be very lucky if he ended up back there for next season. And if I were him I wouldn't start demanding high salaries either, he should accept what he's been offered and figure out a way to revitalise his F1 career.
I have nothing against Danny Ric personally, he's a great guy, but he's really shot himself in the foot on several occasions since leaving Red Bull and now effectively getting the sack from McLaren must hurt. All in all I hope things do work out for him, but he's running out of time and if he's still on the grid next year he needs to hit the ground running.
He's getting paid by Mclaren for early termination of his contract so I don't think he's going to be worried about the money. If he finds a seat and doesn't preform in that team he's going to be out of F1
Ricciardo's going to Haas to replace Schumacher and Alpine should stick to the program and bring up an Academy driver. Why repeat the same mistake? NOT doing that is what got Alpine in this mess in the first place by signing BOTH Ocon from Mercedes and Alonso from retirement. What sense did it make for Piastri to wait, given that none of the current Alpine F1 drivers were ever Alpine Academy drivers?
@@philosopherXCI Current ALPINE F1 drivers...try to keep up! 🙄
Why kick out Mick? He's been decent, plus costs a whole lot less than Mclaren
@Nic B is Mick slacking 4 times harder than his teammate?
@Nic B I don't actually like either of them but Gunther's been talking to Danny Ric and he's already driven for Alpine once already. It's all but a done deal according to the rumor mill. Mick's out and Ric's in! 😆
@Nic B okay let's make it even more clear. Mick is keeping up with his teammate, the highest finishes are identical. Mick has 12 points, only 7 points behind Daniel in a much slower car with much less experience. Mick is younger and adaptable, and costs 10x less
Guys, why so many ads?? Totally interrupt the video, can we just have ads at the start, please??
With the constant major rule changes it's not possible to build a car around the driver style any more (Schumacher). It no longer matters how good you are, if you cannot adapt to new cars you're not going to do well.
should've stayed at red bull instead of jumping teams every year, his career iq is terrible
One has to wonder what would have happened had he never left Red Bull.
Checo would had retired F1
@@jarigustafsson7620 - Yeah, probably, and that would have been massively sad.
06:12 I love how they keep a multi million dollar F1 car in place by just jamming a throwaway plastic water bottle under the front wheel lol
You guys should do an interview with his current race engineer at McLaren
Shocker! 😂
The victory at Monza was hardly "stunning." Winning at a track where it's very difficult to overtake, when you have the fastest car in a straight line, your teammate is behind you and has been told not to overtake you, and all the important drivers had either crashed, started from the back, or were Sergio Perez is really not impressive at all. Mazepin could have done that.
you clearly didn't watch the qualifying or the race......
Lol, if even Perez can't overtake then no-one can. He's one of a kind.
@@supercoops I did. He... got a good start? Verstappen and Hamilton crashed into each other and would both have finished before him?
I feel like he could go to Alfa Romeo. Zhou would then have the option to go to Alpine where he was apart of their young driver program. I think a Bottas/Ricciardo line up for the potential Audi-Sauber link up would be a very strong experienced line up for Audi to build around.
Zhou has no business being on an F1 grid to begin with
1:37 Ouch Latifi