when a classical master improvises jazz:
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- čas přidán 27. 08. 2024
- played by Hüseyin Sermet
Hey everyone, I hope you’re having a nice day! This time, I wanted to upload a different content. I eartranscribed this jazz improvisation by the legendary virtuoso Hüseyin Sermet who’s known for his Bartok, Schmitt and Hindemith recordings.
I didn’t have the time to polish everything. yet feel free to write what you think on the comments section. Enjoy!
🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
The key is to look at the camera at every 5-1
Don't forget to waft the sound around in the air with your hands.
He’s telling us a story and can’t wait to tell us the next part. He’s your uncle, telling us about the day he first met his dear wife. Lean in closer, I’ll tell you a tale…
He has learned from Vintherio. Especially at 0:55.
this is so music school coded it makes me want to study liturgical chants
@Songs_of_the_wind ...and make "voilà" flourishes with your left hand. 😄
quite a lovely improvisation
how tf are you here
@@snorefest1621 with magic
perfect blend of classical staccato and jazz chords
Reminded me to Ravel's Alborda del Gracioso for instances, in the use of harmony and the staccatos of the main theme! Lovely improv.
it's very sad that only so few classical musicians still improvise. while the very essence of classical music is "improvisation on the given theme". whole parts of classical pieces was dedicated for improvisation originally. thx!
Such an elegant point, it was my pleasure!
Thank you for this short but beautiful improvisation.👍🙏 Please post more of such improvisations🎹🙏
It's my pleasure! I'm so glad you liked it!
More than a jazz improvisation sounds like a bolero or a (more or less) tango. Anyway, the impro sounds very good 😁😁
absolutely! it has all of the elements of a tango
beautiful. You can really hear the energy naturally flowing
Absolutely beautiful. Not a single note wasted
the B# note was so wasted that it couldn’t C straight
The touch!
Beautiful and delicate 👍
Thanks!
I went to a music school that painfully tried to spit jazz into your face at any moment you were there, and I have to say this short excerpt is better than 99% of all the jazz I heard in my 4 years there, well done!
Just say that you don’t like black music and prefer a classical pianist pretending to improvise something super basic
This is a classically trained musician improvising in a jazz style, but his improv still has a very classical sensibility. Jazz doesn’t use rubato in the way that he’s using it, for example. He’s a good player, good touch on the keyboard, very expressive, etc. etc, but he’s not a jazz guy, and this is not a jazz improvisation. More of a tango with some creative chords, but not jazz.
Yh its not jazz but it is jazzy
Agreed. There's very little of the rhythmic language of Jazz here, though the harmonies have a nice Bill Evans-like sophistication in them. Still, quite a beautiful thing here-and very worth anyone's time to listen to, as music, in the general sense.
what the hell
tango is all about jazz harmony and folkloric rythm tho
No lol I understand you love jazz but as a jazz and classical pianist for my entire life and education now jazz is not necessarily a genre it’s an approach to playing music using the ear and imagination, salsa and bossa nova and samba for instance were not born from the main jazz tree in history but were adopted into the jazz culture because they developed music that was based on ear and improv just like we did independently even though it was not in the established jazz “genre” that was being played in the bebop era during the 60s and forth. Jazz most certainly does use rubato and “tango” is not a reason this isn’t jazz lol plenty of jazz is based on Spanish fusion that’s how chick corea had an entire career “Armando’s Rhumba”, “Spain” just for example people use infinite and unlimited groves and rhythm and time in jazz because again it’s not a genre it’s a perspective of playing music. Classical musicians can most definitely develop that skill independently as well listen to Gabriela Montero one of the leading “classically trained improvisers” and many jazz pianist use classical music as a base for improv like Ella Fitzgerald and Brad Meldhau and Keith Jarrett and Chick Corea. There was even a famous classical teacher that taught all the best jazz pianists from Berkeley to the top named Madam Chaloff who taught the current head of Berkeley’s jazz piano department. Classical and jazz are two sides of the same coin is my point. The rhythm and rubato this man uses does not make sense to make an argument that it’s not jazz if you listen to Bill Evan’s he uses classical SATB voicings and rubato everywhere in fact every jazz musician does if they played the rhythm exactly in time the swing would be dead jazz musicians interpret and make up a random intuitive rhythm for melodies in standards etc. Try and play there will never be another you exactly in time with no rubato it would have no drive momentum and most certainly no swing, you need rubato.
What a touch
Amazing performance 😊
Very nice
And the Piano sounds amazing🥰
Awesome upload Yagiz
Interesting use of harmonic language! Rather unique even for jazz pianists.
lol no.
It"s a Tango 🙂 Watch the camera
precioso! parece un tango!!
Pretty pretty good❤
cool jazz
Beautiful ! :)
Thank you!
It doesn't even sound improvised, and I mean it as a compliment. You are a musical sommelier for sure
You don’t “hear” things being improvised lol there is no way to listen if someone is making things up or not unless you read minds. Classical and jazz pianists alike play so many songs they develop and understanding and memorization for musical forms like ABA verse chorus pre chorus outro etc. And the chords that usually are used in those places as a foundation and a melody that ties it all together and his improvisation isn’t that terribly involved people have improvised much more difficult hard to be,I’ve stuff listen to Oscar peters art Tatum Peter Martin or chick corea they have stuff you wouldn’t even believe are made at that moment.
This is very good.
But if I truly want to hear a classical master perform jazz,
I’ll listen to Oscar Peterson.
Oscar Peterson was not a classical concert pianist he knew basics but was a jazz pianist strictly. And check out Gabriela Montero or Yuja Wang who can improvise just as well in their own perspective.
Great
Oh - I was waiting to hear how he played the pause over the semibreve rest at the end but the video cut it off. 😑
Personnaly I ear a bit of golliwog cakewalk from debussy, more than Jazz. But it's really pretty!!
Why do we not hear this wonderful artist more often? Does he still live in France?
Yes, he’s lives in France. For a while, he was on a break. He became active in the last year. He is known for his Hindemith, Schmitt and Bartok recordings. He also composes music that I admire.
@@yagiz885 I hope we get to hear a concert by him here in Paris soon. He is also a great chamber musician.
great job yagiz :):):):)😊
thx uwu reach me out on dc
Sounds like a composition by Nikolai Kapustin
hey, sounds like Kapustin
cuz of the title it reminded me too…
@@nathanaelcamacho5841 kapustin music is just so good
@@sweetblis I couldn’t agree more. So glad I discovered his music.
Lol classical guys when pressed to think of one composer who's remotely jazzy:
@@tchaffman oh shit, u got me rolling on the floor…
nice❤
It’s definitely classical and not jazz, but it sounds great!
Jazz is not a genre it’s an approach to playing music and as a jazz pianist and classical pianist this is most definelty jazz because he’s using his ear and imagination to improvise which is the basis and foundation for where jazz came from and what it is. Salsa and bossa nova were not stemming from jazz mainland but were adopted later because their creators had that jazz perspective just developed it independently without our help figured it out on their own so it was integrated into the jazz vocabulary. So yea not a genre it’s an approach
What's the meaning of "ear transcribed" ? Isnt that the only way?
you can also use AI/programs that can transcribe audio to score.
@yagiz885 dang any of those good?
So, that's a very very classical attitude towards improvisation. I don't think I would personally call this a "jazz improvisation" because it lacks a lot of jazz language. It certainly is a beautiful and colorful improv, but I don't think it has much to do with jazz, besides some "jazzy" chords here and there
I agree that it has a classical attitude, but as the pianist suggests: it's a jazz improvisation. Rhythms are strong, yet they are flexible. It has some major progressions and alterations that are commonly used in jazz. So I don't think there's anything wrong to adress this as a jazz improvisation.
@@yagiz885 I think any art genre is subjective after some point, concerning the use of the elements of the genre, and in regards to jazz, I can see that he uses some jazz elements in this improv, like some chord choices (like some 69 chords, or #9) in some instances to evoke a jazz feeling, but the soul of the song is a classical one. The use of rubato, dynamics, staccato, and phrasing sounds not at all like one you would see in a jazz tune, it sounds really like a classical piece. Besides that, a lot of very characteristic jazz elements are not employed, like the swing, pulse, solos, the phrasing, again. I would definitely say this is a jazz-inspired improvisation, but besides this, I personally don't think this is really jazz, I think he maybe just chose some usual "jazzy" chords to put in the improv to sound like jazz, but didn't really tried to employ any other jazz element in it, rather classical ones. And this is no offense, of course, he plays really well, and the amount of experience and technique he has I can only dream to achieve in a classical setting, but I think is a matter of style really, the same way that I can't really (as a jazz pianist) play a sonata, with swing and solos and call it classical music, but rather, a classically inspired jazz song
So no you are assuming jazz is a genre of music and therefore things have to sound like the jazz vocab bebop swing stride modal to be jazz and that’s not right. Jazz is an approach to playing music which is why salsa and bossa nova although didn’t sound like the jazz rep at the time being bebop in the west, but came from the same idea of the ear and imagination and groove so now it’s integrated into the jazz vocabulary. Keith Jarret. Bill Evan’s all used classical SATB classics, voicings as do many other jazz pianists who actively try to sound different not the same as what’s already been made and established, or else Domi wouldn’t be jazz and she most def is even tho her music doesn’t necessarily sound like it or Louis Cole.
@@Vic9994546 jazz is quite literally a musical genre. You can redefine the term however you want, but that's not how people conceptualize the term and it's not how they use it. It would be better to use another label or invent one to index what you call "jazz", especially because what you described greatly precedes the jazz musical genre, it would only create confusion. That said, genres can influence other genres and be attributed to each other's repertoire, as jazz did with bossa nova, as blues did with rock, but bossa nova is not jazz because of this, just as rock is not blues. And the core of your argument would be like saying "Blues is a way of making music with melancholy, emotional expression, and soul, therefore, emo music is blues", this example doesn't make sense because the emo "sound" and the blues "sound" are completely different, despite a lot of them using the same intentions and the same approach towards making music in this regard, so it would be better to just create another label to address this, that being for exemple a "ballad", instead of using a label that is already used to index a music genre
Cute
Kapustin be like
Very Spanish.
I hear more classical than jazz, a bit like Prokofiev jazzy things
You can’t hear if something is jazz or not in this kind of gray area because jazz is not a genre it’s an approach to playing music based on the ear and rhythm and imagination. Which is why other styles that did not come from the jazz mainland were later adopted into the jazz vocabulary like bossa nova or salsa because the people who created these styles had the jazz perspective but figured it out on their own.
About as jazzy as a polka but kudos anyway 👍
Jazz is not a genre it’s an approach to playing music using ear and imagination and groove. Plenty of jazz polkas out there haha a polka doesn’t mean it can’t be jazz and also it’s not polka here but even if it was no. Jazz doesn’t try to sound like what’s already been made the players seek to sound different.
doesn't seem like an improvisation
Yes but it actually is!
That's what makes a masterful improvisation
you can see him slightly hesitate before he plays a chord
@@Imsai.8080 no, it's just an "classical" attitude of playing music. i hope that didn't sound offensive
@@lucasbellanzoni9575 i don't think so, it really sounded like a learned piece (or at least the base of the piece) with "jazzy" chords and progression but with strong classical attitude. maybe it's just me because i grow up surrounded by jazz music and i may not understand classical artists if you could say so
It's not an improvisation its a song
As the pianist claims, it’s an improvisation.
Geautiful playing ,but a bit too rubato , jazz should swing
Jazz is not a genre it’s an approach to playing music, not all jazz music is swing and not all jazz pieces have to swing to be jazz. Which is why jazz musicians often “play straight” or else Latin jazz and Brazilian jazz wouldn’t be able to be jazz either because they don’t follow swing they are mostly straight. And rubato is used in jazz all the time every musician in jazz has to use rubato and does because if you play the melody to any tune perfectly in metronomic tempo at the right rhythm it sounds like a dead pulse with no drive or contour they often make up to some degree the rhythm of the melody to give it life which is rubato and many players use it a lot Michel Petrucciani Bill Evan’s Chick Corea Keith Jarret etc. Etc. Swing is just one of many styles of jazz there’d stride there’s boogy Wooten there’s bebop that’s straight there’s free form
Question yagiz u like debussy?
Of course!
@@yagiz885 can u add it in ur about me website
@@yagiz885 can u add it to ur about me website?
Not my favorite honestly, doesn’t swing or groove, nor does it have the subtle rubato of say bill evans. I don’t mean to shit on him, I do appreciate a classical player that wants to do more than what is on a page, I would just be a little more humble about it
I mean, what exactly did he do that made you conclude "he should be more humble"?
That little part makes it sound less like a constructive critique and more like you just being a complete ass and an elitist gatekeeping his favourite music genre.
I personally enjoyed the rubato, I respect your opinion. Afterall, it's a matter of taste.
I can’t stomach most jazz. I get bored after two minutes. I find this more compelling and it keeps my attention. Jazz doesn’t seem to have a point. There’s no climatic effect and the structure doesn’t seem to matter. If find the rhythm to be tediously predictable in a lot of it.
@@danielgloverpiano7693 this video is less than two minutes long…
@@solmusicstudios8714 yes but it holds my interest. I can’t say the same about jazz. It grates on my nerves mostly.