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- Former Golden State Warriors and Los Angeles Lakers guard Quinn Cook got Twitter buzzing yesterday when he tweeted: 'Who wins in a game of 2 on 2 to 16?!?! Kevin Durant & LeBron James vs Magic Johnson & Larry Bird?!?! Who wins and why?! Y’all know who I’m rolling with!!' Chris Broussard joins Shannon Sharpe and Skip Bayless to discuss who would win the match.
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LeBron & KD vs. Magic Johnson & Larry Bird: Who wins? - Broussard weighs in | NBA | UNDISPUTED
• LeBron & KD vs. Magic ...
Skip and Shannon: UNDISPUTED
/ undisputedonfs1 - Sport
Do you agree with Chris Broussard?
Y’all literally just inventing topics
At their prime Lebron and KD would beat Larry and Magic.....as usual Skip is tripping ......Lebron is 9th on his list and KD isn't even in the top 20!!
Bron and KD would win but it’s definitely not a wash...crazy how ppl sleep on Bird and Magic
That’s FAXX
Lebron and KD would beat Magic and Larry by 15 to 20 points if they played 5 on 5.
They gotta pay Quinn Cook, homie gave them a segment to talk about
Lol right and the matchup he came up with is great
Quinn Cook got cut from the team
@@jg3gc Cavs picked him up
@@thelurkgod8307 I mean only people who are bias would pick Magic and Bird. Lebron and KD are Magic and Bird on super serum.
I definitely see Quinn Cook giving some great topics and debates on TV once he has finished his career for however long he’s going to keep grinding. Seems like a great mind.
Skip legit just said that Magic Johnson was physically stronger than a prime LeBron James. I've now heard it all from Skip.
Ya Skip on something for sure
@ Bonnie... you don't think Magic is stronger or just as strong as LBJ? Don't forget Magic occasionally played the 5 spot and that was in the time when it was true physical centers & power forwards.
@@monchelloclay1885 not even close lol
So Lebron James is god now? Smh.
Yeah skip being Bias for sure 😂
This is why Shay and Skip cant take weeks off. Skip killed me with this 1 😂😂😂 He stabbed Kd right in the back for being on Lebrons team 😂😂😂
Facts.
Broussard's take is exactly my take, nailed it. 5v5 team gimme Bird an Magic, those dudes were winners. 2v2, KD and Lebron are much better head to head
Larry would destroy both LeBron and K.d. on the block. You people just associate Bird with only being a shooter when he mostly did all his scoring in the post
KD is the only guy here not among my favorites but I love his game as well. I saw it almost the same way Chris did. I don't think prime Magic is more athletic than current LeBron. Same for Bird and KD. In 2 on 2 this would be like the Williams sisters in doubles, total mismatch. I agree that Bird is as good a passer as LeBron too. KD would have to go hunt for them to win 5v5. I think it'd be close either way because Magic would control the flow and Bron would try to counter him.
@@joshpereira956 absolutely, but that's not even close to making up the diference.
next time they need to say LeBron & Jordan vs whoever 😂😂💀 Skip would pass out
That would be hilarious to watch lol
He would lebron wouldnt have to do anything. Jordan would score all the points because he has more "killer will" lol
@@etanthony1 they already did
Haha. That would be great, but he would say, mj carry bron
😂
As long as LeBron is an option, skip will always go against him. Even with KD on LeBron side 😂
Lol facts
Lmao bro even with Mj on Lebron team he’d blame Bron for costing MJ the W😂
Lol big facts
Straight facts
Same goes for Bron and shannon
Can’t even debate because I’m distracted by Skip saying KD is mentally tougher than Lebron. So mentally tough that he blew a 3-1 lead then joined the team that beat him...there is a reason he gets called cupcake and snake, regardless of skill level.
In other news, two of them would skunk Magic and Bird in 2 v. 2
He did go in labrons mouth 2 years straight.Called him out one on one at the end of that game and labron didn’t want the smoke the 2nd time
@THE JOKER Doesn’t matter.He called him out one on one with the game on the line-If your the goat you take that challenge.
7:38 Broussard's face when Skip said Magic was stronger than LeBron
This is why Skip shouldn’t be allowed to talk about Lebron. He is obviously trolling.
@@datsapaddlin4228 he was right. Lebrons a flopping crybaby.
@@SlimShadly We are talking about prime Lebron not old Lebron that you call a flopper you troll
I mean magic post up centers and forwards on a regular basis... Don't act like brons just overpowering magic lol 😂
@@TheTonytone77 he is thp
Skip talking about free throws in 2 on 2 😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
right!
🤣🤣🤣
That’s what I’m saying lmao he will say just about anything... actually he’ll say anything to discredit LeBron
That’s how you know he knows NOTHING about basketball 😂🤣😆
ramona shoots 72 per cent
Jordan and Taylor Swift vs Lebron and Shaq.
Skip: Will no one has seen Taylor on the court she will be an absolute x factor.
😂😂😂😂
Well it honestly Depends where they play and what for if its a Finals Match Up Lebron will find a way to somehow Lose 😂😂😂
😂😂😂😂😂 u literally said Taylor swift......... that’s how horrific the judgment is against lebron.... Taylor swift!!! IM DONE😂😂😂😂
🤣🤣🤣
He’ll say Taylor is mentally tougher and shoots better at the free throw line than LeBron so clearly LeBron will lose
Put Bird and Magic in the 2005 draft class and let them train like modern athletes. They would be unstoppable.
lol dont matter
Put wilt in today's game and watch him become the most well rounded big ever. It doesn't matter one bit would they could be if they were drafted in some other era. We can speculate all day but the fact you'd rather have them get drafted in brons and kds era to make them better shows how you really feel about this matchup. You know deep inside that todays players are better therefore kd and bron win
The Great Pat Riley said: "I trust Jordan to take the last shot to win the game. I trust Bird to take the last shot to save his life".
Yeah, that's silly tho.
@@propre6033 Lmaoo right
@@propre6033 It's not silly. Not sure why everything has to be literal with you, but I'll translate: Riley's saying Michael can take an important shot, but the MOST IMPORTANT SHOT WILL be taken by Larry!
@@brian7333 yeah your translation is silly tho.
Yess. The same bird who had 2 8 point games in the finals and lost FMVP to a NON HOF ! That was a bigger player meltdown than LeBron in 2011 ! 🤣🤣🤣
Skip "I'm getting paid to disagree with stuff mindlessly" Bayless
Well, he's getting paid to get people to mindlessly watch. We are guilty.
@@doctorgonzo5358 yep we just as guilty bc we actually pay attention to him which fuels his relevance
Says the bronsexual lmao
Skip makes me puke in my mouth everytime he speaks about LeBron.
lol yeah, this is an easy call. KD would shutdown Bird, plus nobody is stopping KD on the other end. Meanwhile Magic is a pass-first player, so he won't be scoring much either. And I know Lebron is pass-first too, but he's a pass-first player that still averages 27ppg for his entire career....which is insane. LMAO
MR. cook out here trying to get that 10 days contract from LeGM. 😂
Savage
@@jaypho7931 but true.
😂😂😂that’s funny asf
😂
Is Lebron really a general manager?
Shannons face when Broussard is talking is one of the funniest things I've ever seen
Bird would trash talk to James into tears so it really would be Johnson and Bird against Durant.
skip always bases his arguments on things that can't be measured "killer will"
" Killer will"is what separates a LeBron from a KD tho if we're being honest 🤷 it's what separates the top 15 players from everyone else
@@bobbypayne9843 that’s dumb logic. You can tell when some players don’t have a killer will. For instance, Lebron in the 2011 finals. What else do you call that sort of meltdown? You could see it in his body language. You can tell when people are defeated mentally. It’s not that hard to figure out lol
@@colewrld901 so kd isn't a top 15 player?
@@zachcleveland5739 nope not with those phoney warriors rings. The cheapest rings in sports history, outside of championships won through cheating.
@@bobbypayne9843 that's part of "killer will" 🤦 u just described it lol
Aye man skip deserves every penny of that new contract 😂 this is pure comedy!!
I'm in tears bro😭😭😂
He sholl is Haha
For real man 😂😂 king troll
Best troll on TV
Facts.
Chris Broussard keeps it 100% real every time. Amazing sports journalist 👌
I have to say that in Birds era there were no two players in the nba that could stop Bird when he wanted to score.
He ain’t more skilled then Kevin durant nor a better scorer
@@shakmarriott4820 what part of the game is Durant better? Rebounding? Passing? Free throws? Defense or defense win shares? You say Durant is a better shooter but there shooting stats are almost identical but Bird played in an era where it was tougher to score. How bout clutch? I don’t know how bout trash talk?
Bird is Better at Every Aspect of the Game than KD (no knocks on KD ... Bird is the GOAT , tho, so ... ) @@shakmarriott4820
skip's all time list must be purely based on killer will over basketball skill
😂 facts
It is, that and finals record
Mentality is what separates the good from the great. That is why players see sports psychologists. Guys like Jordan, Magic, and Bird were obsessed with winning, losing on a single play felt like death to them, and that is why those 3 are in the top ten players ever.
I think Bird would get in LeBron's head early with his legendary trash talk, Bird and Magic also have a deep connection, they went from bitter rivals from NCAA to the Dream Team and became good friends. And I think these things matter. You have to win the game mentally before you can win it physically. I wouldn't discount how important having a bond with your teammate and having an obsessed with winning mentality.
@@Big_Nick31 finals record, but skip blatantly disregards the series taken to get there. Actin like losing in the finals is worse than losing in the second round...
He probably has Patrick Beverley Top 10 all time
Skip the only analyst I’ve seen turn “killer will” and “dawg” into a metric🤦🏾♂️
The only metric
Might turn shoe size into a metric next.
@@alexescutia4805 So why does Skip still make excuses for the Clippers and their “dawgs”??
lmaoo 🤣🤣
FACTS.
Skip: I was there when Adam ate the apple. Me and Ernestine had front row seats.
*Skip "I was there" Bayless* 😂
Isn’t skip the same guy who is always saying KD is the most skilled players ever or am I tripping ?
Not today, B3cause he's on LBJ team. 😂😂🤣. His Nemesis
Chris is legit getting paid to be the Neutral Guy on this show. Lol 😂
Fr
Other then the Flippers take last year lol
He’s just being honest
@@CeeWorld69 that’s what being neutral means…
Skip Bayless is the worst analyst of all time pure cancer, he just d rides old players & acts like old grump gramps w all the new players
Skip on a roll today:
>Lebron 9th all time
>Magic stronger than Lebron
>KD mentally tougher than Lebron
🤣🤣
Im like hold on did I hear that right? 🤣🤣🤣
KD not top 20 yet
The LeBron being 9th all time is possible: he is an amazing top player but there have been many players of his caliber before you are sleeping on. At the end it's all arguable. LeBron could be either #9 or #1 depending on the way one analizes GOATdom.
He's right
He's right
He's right
Yeah a roll of a lace blunt
The deciding factor would be Magic’s ability to score. Which he can’t do on the level of a Bird Lebron and KD
Stop it. Go watch some game tape. Magic played every position. Magic had a killer hook shot no one could block.
FACTS.
@@ampmri2434 bro he was a good scorer but not kd, bird and lebron level, he averaged a career high 24 points in a season. the magic of magic is sorta lost when there arent five players on the court
@@mhrshf6525 You can't be serious. Passing is passing no matter how many people are playing. These are basketball players who know how to play 2vs2 or whatever. Besides that, Magic proved he could win a championship playing positions 1-5. He and Bird lack the athleticism of KD & Lebron but they make up for it with unblock-able shots & fundamentals. Scoring and passing wouldn't be Magic's problem, his defense would be the deciding factor.
@@ampmri2434 magics main strength was the fast break, and he had 4 players he could pass to. When there's only one other option on the court, his effectiveness will go down. And you cant say hes as good a scorer as the other 3
I ain’t no LeBron fan at all but soon as skip said he got him ranked 9th I was done 😭😭😂😂
Me either but lebron is top 5 easily
4th,mj Russell Kareem bron,might flop Kareem & Russell, but bron 4th
It's MJ and BRON on mount rushmore 1 and 2
@@davidjamisonnmmeto603 if you put Bill that high it’s probably for his rings. Using that logic why do you have Jordan ahead of him ?
@@johnwick8516 don't assume,I put bill that high because he dominated the game,when he was winning like Jordan nobody else was,since bron been playing, Kobe ,Duncan & kd got 2 rings,Leonard & curry got multiple rings,he is winning but hasn't dominated his era (LeBron)
Skip: "I have Lebron 9th"
Shannon: "Really 😑"
🤣😂🤣
Time stamp?
@@ExtraKrispy519 6:23 🤟🏼
😂😂😂
Bro that part killed me fr
Lebron is 8th
I think Birds trash talking would make LeBron and KD cry! 🤣
Kd trash talk too 😂he ain’t finna cry
1:25 WHEN SHARPE LAUGHED I CRIED OUT LOUD OF LAUGHTER
Skip "I was there for all those games, all those finals" Bayless
"I breathed the same air as them" 😂
He must have forget Magic gettin swept and Birds horrible first finals
Lmaoo
Skip acts like saying that makes him more credible.
@@philipchampion566 it kind of does 😂
Skip gets paid to speak cap everyday 😭 must be nice
Facts.
This might be a slight, but Chris GOATssard definitely showing a little age... probably from dealing with Skip for this many years.
FACTS.
"Overwhelmingly intangibles" dis man Skip is a clown bru
All I think about is “Blocked by James” and KD breaking their crusty Ankles.
Crusty!?!?😂😂😂😂🤣
Lmaoooooooo Crusty 😂😂
Well they wouldn’t be crusty if they were young.
Larry Bird more skilled than KD 😂😂😂😂
@@km_1911 no question Bird is more skilled than KD. Just look at the stat sheets. But please explain, how is KD more skilled than Bird. I’d love to know what KD can do better than Bird? I’ll be waiting...
"I've got LeBron 9th" is the equivalent of Max Kellerman's "ANDRE IGOUDALA"
😂😂😂 fax
Right 😂😂😂
Honestly I think LeBron 9th might be the worse take
Man, if you guys didn't see Magic and Bird play, you really have no idea. It would be like The Globetrotters against Marquette!
Magic and Bird everyday and twice on Sunday, skill? What about brains and balls?
U sound stupid
“Talk about natural strength lord have mercy” yo skip is a fool boy lmao 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
He really said Magic was stronger than Bron 😭
he said it as i was reading this
That line went over your heads, skip is implying that lebron is on steroids thus if he wasn’t on PEDs, then he wouldn’t be able to overpower magic.
💀💀did u see Chris face 😂
CLOWN.
Man said lebron is 9th really 😂😂😂😂😂
I closed the video immediately💀
@@leultrainstinct406 how did you type this if you closed it immediately?
Closing in on 2nd all time scoring and 15th in assist but he's 9th with 4 MVPs* and 4 FMVPs*?🤦🏾♂️ Skip is a trip.
SKIP IS SMOKING BIG DOPE!
Man said magic was stronger than Lebron 🤣🤣😭😭😭
6:23
I lost it! I repeated this portion dozens of times 😂😂😂😂
Chris reaction also 😅
The look Chris gave when Skip said "So u think Magic couldn't score on Lebron" says it all😅😄💀
There has never been "free throws" in the history of everdom when playing 2 on 2, but Skip had to somehow fit Lebrons ft shooting into the narrative to bring him down! 🙄
skip obviously never played 2v2 ball...when he mentioned free throws i laughed so hard...
😂😂🤣🤣😆😆, yup, gotta find a way to help his losing argument LOL!
This is getting out of control lmao
Facts.
You are the person of the year, had some water in my mouth when reading, "history of everdom," incredible, lol.
The disrespect thrown at KDs game is out of this world. That dude is unguardable. He finishes at the rim, midrange, free throws and the three point line. And he’s damn near 7 foot.
Stop saying this unguardable nonsense. If he was actually unguardable then he would average at least 50 PPG instead of just 27.
You act like KD is the only one that averages 27 hes still the best scorer(active player)
@@leoster6118 if KD is the best scorer, why does Lebron have a higher career PPG average???
@@SPRVLN27 Why would he average 50 ppg? Do you even hear yourself dude? He does have teammates yk???
@@f33nixx11 do you know what unguardable means?? If someone were unguardable it means that they could score anytime they touch the ball. Why even have anyone else shoot if someone is literally unguardable?? No one has ever been unguardable.
You think Bird is a “ better shooter” ya think. Give me a break. Bird was the definition of clutch….
“Bird 6-11”? Broussard saying Bird as low as 11 is disrespectful and wrong. His 7-8 year prime is absolutely one of the 5 best ever. He’s the only player to this day post 60s Russell and Wilt to get 3 straight MVPs and he also had 4 seconds and a 3rd or 2! He owned young MJ, better record vs Isiah. First player ever to do 50/40/90 and he did it twice!
From 83-84 to 87-88 over a 5year period Larry averaged 27, 10, 7, 2spg, 1bpg on 50/40/90! He was actually a mix of a less athletic LeBron and Durant! I have him behind LeBron but he’s absolutely Top5. I know LeBron has him top3 and MJ has him Top5. Kareem said he was best player he ever played against!
Broussard made great point about social media 24/7 pressure also
Skip Bayless is a joke. Imagine having Magic Johnson as 2nd on your all-time list and Bron at 9th. This is the same guy that had Shaq 3rd on his list. He's on national television saying that Magic is physically stronger than Lebron James 💀. We need to drug test him. Neither Bird nor Magic could guard either of the two defensively. KD and Lebron would score at will.
It is ridiculous to put Magic ahead of LBJ. Magic never carried a team by himself. And neither did Bird. I do not considered LBJ to be the GOAT individual player. I do consider him to be the GOAT of a team player. He has carried a lot of team with less talent further than any one player in history. I have never seen Bird or Magic or even Kareem do this. A LBJ team would usually get in the playoffs. Even if he had to carry them by himself. Skip needs to stop living off LBJ's hate. Skip is a media Bum. That is all I can say about his wacko views.
Any list that doesn’t have Lebron at least top 3 is a joke 😂
Children in the house.
@@gregoryyoung9148 Bird as a rookie took a 29 win team to 62 wins and it was the same roster. The next year he won. Get a clue.
KD scoring all 16 on whoever guarding him. Bron just gotta feed him lol.
Exactly literally no1 can stop him
Facts. Most unstoppable scorer in NBA history. Man's gonna have Magic and Larry on skates ⛸
@Jason Avery ratio.
KD will give Larry a staredown 30 footer
@Jason Avery and then KD will say “y’all know who I am”. Who knows Larry might break his back trying to guard KD.
@Jason Avery what’s funny is Dr. J outscored Bird in the 1980 and 82 playoff series. And cmon Dr J isn’t even a better scorer than prime Carmelo let alone LeBron or KD.
And Michael Jordan please. He averaged 39.7 PPG combined between 1986 and 87 first rounds. How’s that shutting down?
KD and James. Bird and Magic were great, neither was really known for their Defense. Physical dominance and overall ability from everywhere? I’d say KD and LBJ.
Lebron will cry hearing Bird trastalking to him. 😂
You are forgetting the era…but they could okay defense.
@THE JOKER he's whinny. You can't argue that.
@THE JOKER he flopped then whines.
@@joelbinatero6522 lebron was a trash talker in his early years but they call little techs so he doesn’t do it anymore😂
Broussard shouldn't take the first year rookie mistakes of Magic and Bird and say they dont have mental toughness.
Skip sound like he was getting bent over by Magic🤣🤣
"Lawd have mercy, the strength "🤣
Imagine saying Lebron 9th all time 😂
In what way is Larry better than LBJ LOL. Skip is out here wildin
@@Machozz certainly not better all around. But Bird was a better shooter and more clutch.
@@dimmykarras9287 yea... so? Kyrie is a better shooter than LBJ, and is more clutch.. is Kyrie better than LeBron? LOL.
@@Machozz Tbh are Kyrie and Bird more clutch? Bron has a higher clutch shooting percentage than them, taken more clutch shots, and has had more games of sheer dominance in the post-season (game 6 vs celtics 2012, game 6 vs Celtics 2018, Game 5 versus Pistons 2007, Games 5-7 vs Warriors 2016, even game 1 vs Warriors 2018). I understand you thinking they more clutch but there's a good argument he's more clutch than them and even if not, it wouldn't matter in this case.
@@dimmykarras9287 he wasn’t more clutch
Jordan never beat a Bird team in the playoffs, he couldn’t beat a Magic or Bird team in their prime,these are facts, drafted in 1984, first Title in 1991,, he was absolutely phenomenal, but you can only judge players in their era, in his era one of the greatest, the GOAT, absolutely not, nobody is the GOAT, and anyone trying to give someone that title is just wrong, I watched Wilt, Kareem , the Big O, all great players ahead of their time, Jordan against George Gervinho in his first All Star game not even close,, just facts , loved watching Jordan also just some of the few I mentioned,, Jerry West, Walt Frazier, Charles Barkley, I can go on, but nobody is the GOAT
So are you going to ignore that MJ was on a lottery team facing two team full of allstars?
Thank you....
*There is no Greatest of ALL Time*
MJ, lottery team at best. Versus several All Stars on both of those teams who legitimately went on to be HOF. Their is a long list of great players in NBA history. Who did their thing in their perspective era. In order to be called the Goat you would’ve to put them all on the court at the same time in one era and then say if you think that you are the Goat then prove it. And that’s impossible.
You are calling it Magics team but Kareem is the best player of the Lakers.
If MJ had a Kareem and Worthy, he would have won in his first season.
The greatest thing for MJ is losing against the Pistons, Celts and Lakers .
When he finally won, there is no turning back. You forgot MJ had to deal with Shaq, Mourning, Mutombo,...best era of the centers.
u gotta be trollin😂
You forget the most important thing intelligence. Larry was smart and tough.
The bum said he has Bron 9th on his raggedy all time list. 🤣
Ridiculous💀
Idk I have him at 7
@@hrothgr52 that’s just dumb too 😂
He is certified number 2 right now and if he gets 1 maybe 2 more rings and passes Kareem in scoring then I might have to put him number 1
@@hrothgr52 you don’t know basketball
Skip gonna come out tomorrow with the nets jersey like he didn’t just slandered KD
Seriously, Talking About Larry Bird Is More Skilled Than KD😂😂
FACTS.
@@heemboy7572 I was like wtf
Bird avg 15pt 15rb and 7ast and 2.3 stl in that final tho. ESPN lying on bird
No way Magic & Bird beating KD & Bron 2 on 2. That’s street ball, KD lives for scenarios like that.
True.
Clearly you have not done your homework, cause La China would get all that work... they didn't flop like La China James style, Larry played with a concussion in the playoffs, James out for "Cramps", Magic played center and won a chip. Get outta here with your modern day programming
@@jeremyswann2228 haha you haven’t watched basketball in years lol. The games evolved. Catch up!
Lol you don't think Bird lived for that? He's the ULTIMATE trash talker in NBA history
@@d.michael372 yup, the game evolved in a way that benefits Bird. He would attempt 10 3s per game now and nail like 45%. He pulled in 10 rebounds per game CAREER because of his positioning and box out skills. How many would he have in today's NBA, when you wouldn't be allowed to wrestle him?
Skip: “KD is mentally tougher than Lebron”
*I know he isn’t serious, the same KD who choked a 3-1 lead, only to join them the next season? The same KD who has burner accounts to defend himself on Twitter? The same KD who has to stack the deck in Brooklyn, because he ain’t interest in going mono-e-mono vs Lebron? The same KD who complains about the media, can’t take criticism... yeah, KD isn’t mentally tougher than the 4x NBA Champion... Lebron James*
Exactly lol
Well...Lebron did have that 2011 and 2014 Finals performance. And he’s lost most of his Finals appearances so....
KD had a garbage team with that 3-1 lead; westbrook is a negative on ANY team can't win with him look at OKC after, look at Houston, look at Washington now. Just like Bron had a garbage team with the Cavs. KD also wayyy more clutch down the stretch, game on the line who you want with the ball, be honest? When he went mono e-mono against Lebron he won the past 2 times (and yes that counts Lebron picked his team with Kyrie and Love they already won 1 together no excuses). You act like Bron doesn't have AD? Also had 2, 6-man of the year players in Montrezl and Schroder join his CHAMPIONSHIP team this year and you say KD stacking the deck? You act like Bron didn't lose for 5 years in Cleveland before joining a champion in D-wade and Allstar in Bosh and get shooters around him left and right for his first 2 chips? You act like he didn't have Love and Kyrie for his 3rd?
@@samuelsmithmed214 😂Your opinion became invalid when you compared KDs 2016 Thunder team to Lebron early Cavs teams. You still have time to delete your comment before someone who’s willing to waste time embarrasses you
@@karanveerdhillon7867 It's facts, that team was straight up not good. Westbrook makes everybody he plays around worse and the team worse by being so inefficient, he's a net negative. Nobody can win with him. So KD and who, Ibaka? vs. 73 win warriors, yeah I think they'll dubs win that one. Give KD, Kyrie and Kevin Love, a free pass through the Leastern Conference and yeah I like his chances against those warriors. Remember he beat the 67-15 spurs which is better than any team Lebron EVER played in the east, to even get to play against the 73 win warriors. Nextttttt
As skip talks more and more he comes up with new arguments instead of defending the ones he previously said because Shannon and Chris absolutely destroyed him in their responses.
Speak on it.
The ramblings of a professionally angry troll
9th - on his list I am just laughing at this point, also I am not surprised.
Without Any doubt...Magic&Bird....😀
Kids just don't know...
Not Magic nor Bird can cover EITHER LeBron or KD. Literally this simple.
Your just wrong
Tell me your young without telling me your young.
Lmaooo exact like it’s not that hard, bird can’t keep up with kd laterally at all nd kd can just rise up on him everytime nd Bron just too quick n strong for magic
Ppl forget magic was decent on defense at best it was Michael cooper who even won dpoy stopping dudes on the lakers
@@temanchi5006 Magic was not really a defender.
But that's beside the point. They could not guard KD and LeBron. Honestly, this 2 on 2 scenario is not really fair.
KD and LeBron would win every time.
Magic & Bird without question. Quite frankly I'd actually say Magic & Bird in their prime against anyone else. Barring possibly Kobe & MJ. But thats a hard maybe.
Kubrick?? nah..My top 4 are MJ, HAKEEM, BIRD, MAGIC
MJ and Kobe 1A and 1B. I’m with you
The way Shannon laughs at 1:27 and then the light creepily reflecting on his glasses adds to the trolling moment 🤣
Can we wait till the off-season for these ones 😂
No these topics are fun no matter the time of year
@@galactic-gumbo9911 I bet your fun no matter the time of year
@@benjaminargueta8841 wtf
@@mykq7286 you can get in on this too😏
Lebron and kd game is more suited to 2 on 2 than bird and magic so kd and bron
Simple as that. Which duo is better
Lebron and KD would demolish bird and magic. I think the decided match up is kd vs bird...magic and lebron would be more competition for each other but kd would score so effortlessly on Larry man
@@TapOnToeKnee and larry would torch Durant 😂😂😂 u think Larry a chump on offense or sum?
A chump? No not at all but kd could stay in front of him. Larry could not stay in front of kd
@@TapOnToeKnee staying in front of him means nothing if Larry is taking him out his shoes with fakes 🤷.
Magic and Bird played with great players, but also played against really great players and more of them in the 80's and 90's
Bird didn't play 90s that's 1 reason Mj won so many. Bet
I mean the lakers, celtics and pistons were the only good teams at the time of their primes bro. In kds and lebrons era you got the lakers, spurs, miami, gsw, okc, Cleveland, Orlando and the rockets. Even though some never won those teams had years where they were stacked
I forgot the spurs and the celtics with kg too
I'd have a WHOLE LOT MORE RESPECT for MJ's Rings if he took them from the 80's teams ... we haven't seen anything like it sadly ... @@teresa-oj9rq
The physicality that they would put on k.d is like no other he has gotten in modern nba
I would much rather see Lebron and Bird vs KD and Magic. Lebron and KD have a rivalry, and so do Magic and Bird.
This Would Be Awesome
THERE you go! That would be ultra interesting. I got Lebron and Bird in THIS match up.
Not really a rivalry if you had to join another team Just to beat him
Thats the point of the argument 🤔
@@ky5059 I don’t think that bothers KD much
Yall running out of ideas huh?
Fr
@@elpuyi what u saying
They threw Cook some cheese for him to say something so they can get the ratings up lol
Yep
Seems like a 2k or NBA Live matchup on the blacktop
9:30 Chris makes a GREAT point!!!
that 2:15 smile of shannon as if he is trolling skip. haha that's funny.
I've had enuff. Now Magic Johnson in his prime is stronger than Lebron in his prime. KMSL. Lebron is stronger now than Magic in every year in his career. And he's no where near his prime
Yes he is.
Yeah, that comment was beyond ridiculous.
When I think bron prime is like 2016 2017 I think that bron is when he was at his the early peak of what he is now
FACTS.
@@marcosramirez4550 lebron had a good 35lbs on magic at a lower bodyfat.
lebron could look down on the rim while dunking, magic could not, even though he was much lighter.
magics first step was nowhere close to prime lebron.
it isn't even close when it comes to strength and athleticism.
Lmfaooooo "KD is mentally tougher than Lebron?" Automatic disqualification Skeeeeeeeeeiiiiiuuuuuuuuup
He tripping for that statement!!
How can you measure mental toughness
Bron the most hated the last 10 years and handled all the hate really well. KD ain't tougher than Bron mentally when KD uses burner accounts to protect himself on twitter. Skip a clown
@@jamescane3482 Lebron is the most hated modern athlete of all time
@@thee_legendary1
Funny thing is
Out of all the athletes on that most hated list, he probably has done the least to deserve it. 😂
Funny how the world works, we hate Lebron for.....🤷♂️
I hated him when I was younger for calling himself King James before he won anything....now, I don’t even care.
Most of the people that say LeBron are just kids that have never seen bird or magic play. Bird and magic together couldn't be stopped. Plus the game was a man's game back then.
Of course. Go for the generic old man argument. Shannon and Chris in they're 50's. Stop it.
I'm with Skip on this one. People love to forget how savage Bird and Magic were. People need to go and watch the tapes.
Right on.
💯
Yep
Kd & bron have a better chance of guarding bird & magic than vice versa
MAGIC AND BIRD, it's not even close
So who would win between kd&bron vs magic and bird?
Skip: THOMAS EDWARD PATRICK BRADY!!!! And it's not even close.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Aye don’t forget “THERE IS ONE MAN IN ALL OF SPORTS WHO YOU DO NOT BET AGAINST”
Im dead , u are right . Im surprised T. brady didnt come up as an option .
UNLEASH Tim Tebow, let him play!!
They forget who is the clutchest player of them. It depends how it end 2 vs 2 . Bird is in your head.
funny how skip mentioned lebron's top 9 to his lost and kd top 20 but he arguin that kd is the best player for years.
Well Lebron is older now. He is comparing primes; not the last few years. LeBron was probably in his prime from 2009-2016
so if KDs better, then where was he on the last 10yrs of MVP conversation? , watch NBA first before having a comment hahahahah
@@cooperlogmao8775 I don't agree with Skip. I think he is a bias idiot. I'm just saying that's clearly how he sees it.
They really brought Chris on for this pathetic topic their wasting his time
Chris gets paid for every segment. He wouldn’t care if they brought him in to talk about his childhood and what made him become a preacher.
@@weightpushweight5769 Damn, he a preacher forreal? Lol
Certainly wasting our time. B.ball is 5v5. Anything else isn't important (to me anyway)
@@davidgibson4775 Yeah he is. He is a “man of the cloth” for years now.
@@Romamb It is nonsense but just wait until next week. They will talk about 10 year old Bron vs 10 year old MJ.
you could say lebron and KD against an 8 & 10 year old and skip would say “lebron just isn’t in the same category as those guys”
That is not the scenario here. They said KD and LBJ against Magic and Bird. It could never be. Bird and Magic hurt each other. They are not athletically gifted enough to deal with the problems KD and Lebron would give them.
@@gregoryyoung9148 your 100% right. Magic and Bird played in a era where u have to hurt each other physically to win. Most of time
Chris literally just nailed this🔥🔥
skip said chris broussard is in the hall of fame, everybody is in the hall of fame 😂
LeBron is literally doing prime Magic stuff, now, in year 18. You give me 2013 LeBron against them? Please. It’s over.
Even 2009 apex athlete LeBron is blowing past both of them with ease
He’s NEVER done Magic stuff. Ever. He doesn’t PASS like Magic NOR WIN like Magic.
@@Terror832 give me ROOKIE game 6 magic over ANY VERSION of lebron
@@michaeltrenier and magic don’t do Lebron stuff they they own players df😭🤦🏽♂️
@@brixaabrixaa3390 okay if you wanna play that game.
Game 6 2012 LeBron would average 50 PPG on that 1980 Sixers defense
I'm STILL looking for "killer will" and "trash talk" as a stat that helps win games
You'll never see intangibles in a stat line just like you never see fear and intimidation on a boxers record but we know it exists and can impact outcomes .
@@ericanderson7059 yeah like Tyson was "feared" and got WASHED by Buster Douglas?
@@ericanderson7059 intangibles are not as important as skill. Wide open corner three I'm taking Steph Curry over everyone else as he's the greatest shooter of all time and statistically has a better chance of making that shot than someone who you perceive to have 'killer will'
@@sullyguy1235 I ain’t the biggest Steph fan, but I agree. Steph hits threes better than some guys make two pointers.....it’s virtually a layup for him. I’d take him in that scenario over anybody too.
I don’t see how one doesn’t possess those things when they’ve been to ten championship rounds in eighteen seasons, has four championships, and four finals mvps, along with four league mvps. That’s some serious hardware right there.
Skip looks like the only one that watched Bird and Magic play.
shannons reaction at 1:26 and the next 20 seconds had me loling
“Sheer killer will” is the most overrated bs lmaooo
Thank youuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
Yep; it’s almost as bad as his “clutch” gene talk
He said the same thing about LaMelo before he got drafted 😂
Yup. Straight facts!
Not really, one of LBJ's biggest weakness is his clutchness.
"LeBron nineth all time" - this is coming from a guy who couldn't even play on his hs varsity basketball team
Skip probably think Aaron Rodgers isn’t a top 25 QB all time
So hold up. Are you saying that a person who doesn't have experience in a field can't critique others in that field? By that logic, you can't criticize any politician or high profile celebrities, right?
@@SuperSonic_868 skip said LeBron isn't even in top 5 greatest of all time players list
Facts yoo
With all players at there prime, this game could go back and forth to 40+ points. In the end I would have to give the clutch win to Magic and Bird, The dudes don't ever let up, and have both gone to crazy lengths to win rings with the teams that drafted them. Loyalty matters!!
Skip is really starting to just say anything smh almost tired of watching him
I just realized there were two nba games yesterday and Spurs announced the news about LaMarcus yet undisputed refuses to talk about either of the two but would rather debate about Bron and KD vs Magic and Bird 😂. The media will try there hardest to not talk about someone other than LeBron than focus on the actual game of basketball
Nothing they can do producers make the decisions they just text them suggestions I’m sure skip would love to talk about the spurs
No one cares about those filler games 😣😂
Undisputed rarely covers games like the the 2 yesterday. It’s either lebron or other elite teams but majority of the time it will just be a lebron based discussion. Sucks though I’d love to hear them talk about the Aldridge situation especially since the Spurs are skips team.
Yes because LeBron is the most popular player in the game now. Spurs has never been relevant because they are a small market city and the only time they were talked about is when you had Duncan and his boys dominating the league. It's how the media works
then go to ESPN channel
I don’t think Skip is grasping just how huge of a difference there is between 2 on 2 and 5 on 5. It changes everything.
I agree that bird and magic would loose in a game of two on two. Lebron is simply too fast and strong compared to bird and magic, and KD is a 7 foot long shooter who would be almost impossible to guard. With that being said, I do think it would be closer than they give it credit for.
Yes but I also don't agree with the whole evolution thing because they only thing that Evolved was the rules. Strength and Size wise the game has actually DEvolved. 7 footers looking like they weight a Buck 50 soaking wet and getting out muscled by a 6'7 DRAYMOND GREEN. Shaq would treat Draymond like a little boy EASILY.
Nah. You need to watch more eighties bb. Bird never was stopped by faster and stronger. His reflexes and iq carried him right over big%er and stronger all the time and they will tell you that too. Bron doesn't have the unshakable confidence and Bird would live in his head and rent out space. As for K. D. nobody thinks he is goat material just a great player.
I remember when Magic came back in ‘96. I was too young to have seen his prime, and I remember thinking there’s no way this old dude from the ‘80s was going to hang with prime Grant Hill, prime Penny, Pippen, MJ, etc. I was wrong. Even though he was out of the league for 5 years and heavier, Magic was an all-star caliber player that year and put up some serious numbers. He mostly played the 4, but would bring the ball up sometimes too. Passing off the charts…made me appreciate and understand that just because the game evolves and new players join the league, it doesn’t mean the players are better than the past ones. They’re all a product of their era, and the greats would learn to be great in any era given a chance to acclimate.
these young idiots don't know anything. I've been watching since late 70s/early 80s. I've seen a lot of the greats play. Thank you for bringing that up.
He won a championship his first season and pretty much went through the west unchallenged except for a couple of hiccups had 5 rings by his 8th season man he was very very good
@@davidhilliard1838 I agree! Generation X needs to watch Magic Johnsons' full games. They'll change their mind about what a real point guards' job consist of.
ENTER WILT. Makes me laugh when people compare Kareem to Wilt 'cuz of the team-related hardware (mvp's & championships); Wilt was so much better than Kareem in every category besides Free throw shooting, it's easy to see why he dominated him
'95 you mean