thank you for also including how the shuffling looks and feels like, and also including the older, clear matte standard size sleeves! cos these two are the exact questions I wanted answers for haha. Thumbnail on point!
Keep your eyes open, I pestered my locals for a few weeks to be certain that I could pick some up on the day that they arrived. Initially there was a slight delay but I was able to get them last week. It's a fairly new product that recently released a couple of weeks ago so they're probably not as wide spread as they'd like them to be, at the moment atleast.
Holy Crow! Was looking for exactly this product all over Amazon and Ebay ALL DAY without knowing what the correct name for it was. You just saved me sooo much time! Wish I found this video earlier. Thanks for uploading!!!
Side notes that I forgot to mention in the video: SLEEVE COUNT : As you might of noticed the Japanese outer sleeves come in packs of 60 (This may impact your decision) PRODUCT COST: From what I have seen they roughly cost anywhere between £6 - £8 each (Depending on where you purchase them) I am so happy that these sleeves finally exist, thank you to Steve on Facebook for bringing these to my attention! I will be purchasing more of these for all of my decks :D
Thanks for demonstrating this! I'm probably in the minority who doesn't like double sleeving with inner sleeves. This might be a perfect solution for anyone like me! :)
Glad to help! I tried inner sleeves once and I personally didn't like them either. Double sleeving was always the goal and the only brand who had good quality oversleeves but were also accessible and reliable was Dragon Shield. I used the Standard Size Clear sleeves for years so I'm super happy that they made dedicated Japanese Sized versions :D
Helpful! As an aging Millenial getting back into YuGiOh (for the first time in 15+ years) with my now 7yr old son, this was very useful information. Thank you 🤘
Definitely, I was using their Standard size matte clears for years because other oversleeves always had glaring issues that would put me off buying more of them. Dragon Shield's sleeve quality kept bringing me back to them and now that they have Japanese sized outer sleeves, it's pretty much the perfect oversleeving product for me now :)
I couldn't be happier, so glad Dragon Shield decided to make Japanese outer sleeves. They must of noticed that their Standard Size sleeves were being used alot as outer sleeves anyway :P
Does anyone know how much thicker these make the cards? I tried the regular sized ones for my yugioh cards and they worked but they were so thick that they no longer fit in my usual deck boxes so I don’t want to get a bunch or will have to get all new deck boxes (and I already have very many)
They came yesterday and I use my bastion and ofist deck with them The shuffling feels really nice and it doesn't feel as cumbersome when using dragon shield standard These maybe my go to products now when I double sleeve
what about pokemon cards, do you think they fit in without inner protection on the japanese size?? if you don't have just try any poker card since they're the same size
Since it’s been some months now since this review, how has these outer sleeves been treating you for the official Konami sleeves? Has the air properly compressed so it’s less snug? I’m just worried of damaging my nice Konami sleeve if the outer sleeve is too tight that it ends up warping or making ripples in the sleeves or whatever cus the outer sleeves end up pushing the inner sleeve too much cus it’s so snug. Thanks!
That's understandable, I'll give you as much detail as possible. I can say for certain that these first two boxes that I bought definitely seem to be more snug than they should be. However as you mentioned, it's been a good amount of time since I got these and I am currently still using them on my Yugioh deck. They definitely feel and look alot better after the air has been compressed out of them more or less fully now, but these ones in particular do have a couple of the inner sleeves with very slight rippling on them, but not that heavy. Very slight. Now I say these two boxes in particular because since then, I have bought 8+ more boxes for different decks over time and none of them have this issue at all. Inner sleeves slide in with ease with a good amount of spacing on the sides that doesn't cause any rippling whatsoever. So the initial snugness problem of the outer sleeves seems to have been fixed. If you are still not certain, please buy atleast 1 box and try them. Like I mentioned I've purchase 8+ more boxes of these over time because they are that good. Hope this helps 👍
@@GuardianCircleCFV I recently purchased some of these DS Outer and like your 8 boxes, it slide in well, but somehow I was a little disappointed. I hope it could be more snug like your initial 2s. Also, the sleeves seem to be a bit longer than it should be. The overhang part is really a dust nightmare. I'll give it a solid 8 because DS is DS, probably the thickest and most reliable when it comes to protecting your cards/inner sleeves but the built quality is somehow mediocre. The seams are bad and like having some spare plastic?? I don't know how to explain but just not look as high-quality as I expected. Looking for some Broccoli over sleeves cuz saw an article on Reddit and looks like they fit perfectly, almost no hanging part.
ive been using z sleeves for a while now. rly protective but id say somewhat harder to shuffle and rly bad if u get some liquid into it. these dragon shield sleeves felt pretty good with a few cards and maybe just maybe ill change my main drajewled deck from z sleeves to these. slight complain would be that it cost like 5 dollars more then the z sleeves but i guess its pretty normal as i have 60 pieces
Good question; I've just tried to put an already oversleeved card into a Standard Size Dragon Shield sleeve, it's a VERY VERY snug fit but it is possible only just. I'm guessing you're asking this with the idea of potentially triple sleeving?
@@GuardianCircleCFV No actually. I bought these Standard Size Sleeves, but I didnt know they were Standard Size. So I wanted to use them on a Vanguard Deck. So I thought to use these Clear Sleeves as a Sleeve then I put the Standard Sleeve over those.
@@Roxasofmalice Ahh I see, if that's what you want to do then I would recommend just getting some small sleeves (Vanguard / Yugioh size), then oversleeve with those with the standard size sleeves you got :) These outer sleeves are more so for oversleeving small sized sleeves with more of a perfect fit as shown at the 4:00 mark.
It won't. These are for smaller sized cards like Yu Gi Oh and Cardfight Vanguard. Try "KMC Matt & Clear" for oversleeving a standard sized sleeved card like MTG and Pokemon.
I'm using these to double sleeve my Dark Magician and Vampire decks, they're completely fine 👍 Snug at first, but they do become a little bit slacker after some use that makes sleeving feel alot smoother.
Dragon Shield's matte texture is flatter and feels smoother, also the durability of Dragon Shield is unmatched in my opinion. They have a reliable durability that will last a very long time before you think about getting fresh ones. I recall the Epoch sleeves suffering from corner dents and sleeves splitting after a month of use, I've never had that with Dragon Shield. Also Dragon Shield is simply just alot more accessible in my area, Epoch are ok at best if you can find them for a cheap price but Dragon Shield is worth every penny 👌
@@GuardianCircleCFV Thanks for the detailed response. I have access to both but I think I'll go with the Dragonshields basing on what you have said. I appreciate this a lot. Thank you, and keep up the great work. 👍
The reason the Konami sleeves fit more snug is because they're slightly bigger then standard small size sleeves Konami sleeves are 63mm width rather then 62mm
Really cool Video, but I would've really liked to see how the Yugioh sleeve looks through the Matte over sleeve, I can imagine that it might wash out/blurr the artwork 🤔
I don't know why I didn't show the back, apologies about that. Sleeve artwork still comes through very nicely and doesn't get badly blurred out from the matte texture. I've taken some photos for you and posted them on my Facebook page, hope that helps! 🙏 facebook.com/Guardian285
Other websites might have them in stock or a local card shop if you have one nearby, I got mine from my locals recently. Dragon Shield is by far more accessible in comparison to other Oversleeving brands, it's a constant struggle that I've dealt with for years up until I discovered Dragon Shield and their Standard Clear Matte sleeves a few years ago. Now that they've actually made Japanese sized outer sleeves, I couldn't be happier :')
@@iorifori91 for people reading this later, this is inaccurate. Japanese-size cards are 59x86mm. I know they can't be 60x87mm because I have Kadomaru inner sleeves that have 60x87mm measurements that fit my Vanguard cards very snugly.
If by normal version you mean the Standard Size Clear Matte then yes, these are better for double sleeving Japanese Sized card sleeves since they are made to fit perfectly over them.
Same on my end, I asked my locals when they would be getting some more in and they said that they are still waiting for the rest of their back orders to arrive but everywhere seems to be experiencing a significant amount of delays in general. Even an online purchase I made are still waiting for stock to arrive from their suppliers.
Really unfortunate, that new deliveries of this product are not perfectly fitting anymore... Actually they don't fit at all. They are 2 millimeters bigger in each length...
Genau, was ich mir auch denke und weswegen ich hier bin. Hab mir die vor ca. 2 Monaten bestellt und sie stehen 3mm unten ab. Dachte mir schon ich hatte irgendwie Pech bei meinen 2 Packs bzw. fragte ich mich, wieso die bei den CZcamsrn so top aussehen😅
@@hajrudingagulic2361 Ich war so happy, als ich die zum ersten Mal bestellt habe und dachte mir, die werden jetzt für alle Decks geholt. Und dann so eine Enttäuschung. Und ich verstehe es einfach nicht, wieso die Größe angepasst wurde zum Schlechteren. 😅
Hmm these outer sleeves are waaaaay too tight for Yugioh sleeves. Even when using Dragon Shields, you need to push the cards too hard into the sleeve (like in the video) to fit them. Too risky, especially considering that you can easily bend your cards this way. Moreover, taking the cards out is even harder lmao. I assume Dragon Shield isn't selling these anymore for this exact reason.
At the time of this video being made, looking back I would agree that I would not risk using these initial release versions of the Oversleeves for Yugioh. However, this problem seems to have been fixed since I've been able to comfortably Oversleeve Konami art sleeves much easier (The thin ones you see in locals with the black insides and art on the back). These Oversleeves are still available since they were being used for Oversleeving in Cardfight Vanguard and like I said the Yugioh issue has been resolved from what I've noticed.
@@GuardianCircleCFV Yes, makes sense. Well, then it appears that the two packs that I bought a day ago are part of the old batch. Any recommendation for better oversleeves? Possibly with a matte back. I am currently using ultra pros, but they're waaaay too slippery for my tastes. I've heard people saying that you can use standard sized dragon shields for oversleeving, is it true?
@@AnthonyGreenMountain Yeah I would recommend the Standard Size Dragonshield Clear Matte sleeves if you're experiencing issues with the Japanese Outer sleeves still. I used those ones originally for years to Oversleeve with before the Japanese Outer sleeves.
Yeah that seems to be happening alot with these. My locals recently received their 2nd order of them after weeks of delays and they're looking too sell out again after only having them in store for a few days. I managed to pick up 4 boxes yesterday and when I informed my friends they also bought them in multiples 😅 Hope you're able to find some 👍
thank you for also including how the shuffling looks and feels like, and also including the older, clear matte standard size sleeves!
cos these two are the exact questions I wanted answers for haha. Thumbnail on point!
of all the videos I've seen, this has been the most helpful of all. thanks so much.
Good to hear they're actually useful and perfectly sized! I've been waiting for these, but still haven't seen any in stores in my country so far.
Keep your eyes open, I pestered my locals for a few weeks to be certain that I could pick some up on the day that they arrived. Initially there was a slight delay but I was able to get them last week. It's a fairly new product that recently released a couple of weeks ago so they're probably not as wide spread as they'd like them to be, at the moment atleast.
Holy Crow! Was looking for exactly this product all over Amazon and Ebay ALL DAY without knowing what the correct name for it was. You just saved me sooo much time! Wish I found this video earlier. Thanks for uploading!!!
No problem at all, glad the video was helpful for you! :D
Side notes that I forgot to mention in the video:
SLEEVE COUNT : As you might of noticed the Japanese outer sleeves come in packs of 60 (This may impact your decision)
PRODUCT COST: From what I have seen they roughly cost anywhere between £6 - £8 each (Depending on where you purchase them)
I am so happy that these sleeves finally exist, thank you to Steve on Facebook for bringing these to my attention! I will be purchasing more of these for all of my decks :D
Thanks for demonstrating this! I'm probably in the minority who doesn't like double sleeving with inner sleeves. This might be a perfect solution for anyone like me! :)
Glad to help! I tried inner sleeves once and I personally didn't like them either. Double sleeving was always the goal and the only brand who had good quality oversleeves but were also accessible and reliable was Dragon Shield. I used the Standard Size Clear sleeves for years so I'm super happy that they made dedicated Japanese Sized versions :D
Will be definitely investing in these. Thanks for reviewing them!
No problem, glad the video was helpful :D
Helpful! As an aging Millenial getting back into YuGiOh (for the first time in 15+ years) with my now 7yr old son, this was very useful information. Thank you 🤘
Thank you! Glad the video was helpful 😄
I'm glad dragon shield released these. I have them on my luard deck and I definitely think there the oversleeve we needed for a while.
Definitely, I was using their Standard size matte clears for years because other oversleeves always had glaring issues that would put me off buying more of them. Dragon Shield's sleeve quality kept bringing me back to them and now that they have Japanese sized outer sleeves, it's pretty much the perfect oversleeving product for me now :)
I have them as well and I really enjoy them. I also have been looking for outer sleeves for Vanguard for a long time and finally have these.
I couldn't be happier, so glad Dragon Shield decided to make Japanese outer sleeves.
They must of noticed that their Standard Size sleeves were being used alot as outer sleeves anyway :P
Does anyone know how much thicker these make the cards? I tried the regular sized ones for my yugioh cards and they worked but they were so thick that they no longer fit in my usual deck boxes so I don’t want to get a bunch or will have to get all new deck boxes (and I already have very many)
Can't wait to get some
They came yesterday and I use my bastion and ofist deck with them
The shuffling feels really nice and it doesn't feel as cumbersome when using dragon shield standard
These maybe my go to products now when I double sleeve
Great to hear! I love these sleeves alot, they're definitely my main go to outer sleeve now
what about pokemon cards, do you think they fit in without inner protection on the japanese size?? if you don't have just try any poker card since they're the same size
Im a yugioh collector and i want to buy this sleeve, but which inner sleeves is recommended?
Since it’s been some months now since this review, how has these outer sleeves been treating you for the official Konami sleeves? Has the air properly compressed so it’s less snug? I’m just worried of damaging my nice Konami sleeve if the outer sleeve is too tight that it ends up warping or making ripples in the sleeves or whatever cus the outer sleeves end up pushing the inner sleeve too much cus it’s so snug. Thanks!
That's understandable, I'll give you as much detail as possible. I can say for certain that these first two boxes that I bought definitely seem to be more snug than they should be. However as you mentioned, it's been a good amount of time since I got these and I am currently still using them on my Yugioh deck. They definitely feel and look alot better after the air has been compressed out of them more or less fully now, but these ones in particular do have a couple of the inner sleeves with very slight rippling on them, but not that heavy. Very slight.
Now I say these two boxes in particular because since then, I have bought 8+ more boxes for different decks over time and none of them have this issue at all. Inner sleeves slide in with ease with a good amount of spacing on the sides that doesn't cause any rippling whatsoever. So the initial snugness problem of the outer sleeves seems to have been fixed. If you are still not certain, please buy atleast 1 box and try them. Like I mentioned I've purchase 8+ more boxes of these over time because they are that good.
Hope this helps 👍
@@GuardianCircleCFV I recently purchased some of these DS Outer and like your 8 boxes, it slide in well, but somehow I was a little disappointed. I hope it could be more snug like your initial 2s. Also, the sleeves seem to be a bit longer than it should be. The overhang part is really a dust nightmare. I'll give it a solid 8 because DS is DS, probably the thickest and most reliable when it comes to protecting your cards/inner sleeves but the built quality is somehow mediocre. The seams are bad and like having some spare plastic?? I don't know how to explain but just not look as high-quality as I expected. Looking for some Broccoli over sleeves cuz saw an article on Reddit and looks like they fit perfectly, almost no hanging part.
Great video, do you have any yugioh first layer(perfect fit) and second layer sleeves recommended?
For Yugioh I've really been liking the Dragon Shield Japanese Size Perfect Fit Inner Sleeves with the Dragon Shield Japanese Dual Matte Sleeves.
Appreciate the review
Glad it was helpful!
Hey is there any way shadow paladin can do the pseudo denial griffin combo?
Not a clue to be honest, my Shadow Paladin knowledge isn't great :')
ive been using z sleeves for a while now. rly protective but id say somewhat harder to shuffle and rly bad if u get some liquid into it. these dragon shield sleeves felt pretty good with a few cards and maybe just maybe ill change my main drajewled deck from z sleeves to these. slight complain would be that it cost like 5 dollars more then the z sleeves but i guess its pretty normal as i have 60 pieces
I've been looking for them in the shops and online and I can't seem to find them
check tcg player thats where i got mine
Can you triple sleeve with These?
Do these clear japanese sleeves help with wanting to sleeve Vanguard Cards in Standard Size Sleeves?
Good question; I've just tried to put an already oversleeved card into a Standard Size Dragon Shield sleeve, it's a VERY VERY snug fit but it is possible only just.
I'm guessing you're asking this with the idea of potentially triple sleeving?
@@GuardianCircleCFV No actually. I bought these Standard Size Sleeves, but I didnt know they were Standard Size. So I wanted to use them on a Vanguard Deck. So I thought to use these Clear Sleeves as a Sleeve then I put the Standard Sleeve over those.
@@Roxasofmalice Ahh I see, if that's what you want to do then I would recommend just getting some small sleeves (Vanguard / Yugioh size), then oversleeve with those with the standard size sleeves you got :) These outer sleeves are more so for oversleeving small sized sleeves with more of a perfect fit as shown at the 4:00 mark.
I wonder if this will fit in to an MTG card already sleeved with Dragon Shield Brushed art sleeves
It won't. These are for smaller sized cards like Yu Gi Oh and Cardfight Vanguard.
Try "KMC Matt & Clear" for oversleeving a standard sized sleeved card like MTG and Pokemon.
I know this is an old video, but do you think that the snug fit on the yugioh sleeves could potentially cause damage to the card?
I'm using these to double sleeve my Dark Magician and Vampire decks, they're completely fine 👍
Snug at first, but they do become a little bit slacker after some use that makes sleeving feel alot smoother.
@@GuardianCircleCFV Thanks for the reply!
How does this compare to the Epoch oversleeve you reviewed a while back?
Dragon Shield's matte texture is flatter and feels smoother, also the durability of Dragon Shield is unmatched in my opinion. They have a reliable durability that will last a very long time before you think about getting fresh ones. I recall the Epoch sleeves suffering from corner dents and sleeves splitting after a month of use, I've never had that with Dragon Shield.
Also Dragon Shield is simply just alot more accessible in my area, Epoch are ok at best if you can find them for a cheap price but Dragon Shield is worth every penny 👌
@@GuardianCircleCFV Thanks for the detailed response. I have access to both but I think I'll go with the Dragonshields basing on what you have said. I appreciate this a lot. Thank you, and keep up the great work. 👍
@@maris4137 No problem, glad it was helpful!
Do you know the actual measured size of the outer sleeves? Thanks
I want to know too
so could I do an inner sleeve, a standard sleeve AND the Japanese size outer sleeve?
The reason the Konami sleeves fit more snug is because they're slightly bigger then standard small size sleeves
Konami sleeves are 63mm width rather then 62mm
Ahh I see, thanks for the info!
Do they also make dragon shield matte clear for standard size card art sleeves?
I don't believe they do at the moment, but I wouldn't be surprised if they were planning on making those aswell at some point in the future.
@ DuetPain You can try KMC Matt & Clear for standard size sleeved cards.
Really cool Video, but I would've really liked to see how the Yugioh sleeve looks through the Matte over sleeve, I can imagine that it might wash out/blurr the artwork 🤔
I don't know why I didn't show the back, apologies about that. Sleeve artwork still comes through very nicely and doesn't get badly blurred out from the matte texture.
I've taken some photos for you and posted them on my Facebook page, hope that helps! 🙏 facebook.com/Guardian285
I have them, and the ONE complaint I have is that they have noticeable glare compared to the regular sized Clears
Does sleeving them the 'incorrect" way (matte surface on the front reduce or remove the glare?
Do they fit the Bandai digimon card sleeves?
Digimon card sleeves are standard size correct? If so then no, these will not fit them.
Where did you get that mat ?
I got it from 0 Damage Gaming. Unfortunately it was only available for a limited amount of time, it ended towards the end of May.
@@GuardianCircleCFV damn! That's nice 👍
Thanks man
That awkward moment that the video mentions easy to acquire “clicks on link” back ordered rip
Other websites might have them in stock or a local card shop if you have one nearby, I got mine from my locals recently. Dragon Shield is by far more accessible in comparison to other Oversleeving brands, it's a constant struggle that I've dealt with for years up until I discovered Dragon Shield and their Standard Clear Matte sleeves a few years ago.
Now that they've actually made Japanese sized outer sleeves, I couldn't be happier :')
Will this outer sleeve fit sleeve size 62x89mm?
Yes, 62x89mm are Japanese sized card games like Vanguard and Yugioh. These outer sleeves are designed to fit over Japanese sized card sleeves 👍
@@GuardianCircleCFV japanese sized card games like Vanguard is 60x87mm.
@@iorifori91 for people reading this later, this is inaccurate.
Japanese-size cards are 59x86mm. I know they can't be 60x87mm because I have Kadomaru inner sleeves that have 60x87mm measurements that fit my Vanguard cards very snugly.
Are they for sale in the USA?
They should be yes :)
where did you order from ?
I got these sleeves from my local card shop :)
It is better than the clear matte normal version?
If by normal version you mean the Standard Size Clear Matte then yes, these are better for double sleeving Japanese Sized card sleeves since they are made to fit perfectly over them.
Do these fit in yugioh deck boxes ?
They do, yes 👍
Why have these sold out so quickly?! Cant find these anywhere
Same on my end, I asked my locals when they would be getting some more in and they said that they are still waiting for the rest of their back orders to arrive but everywhere seems to be experiencing a significant amount of delays in general. Even an online purchase I made are still waiting for stock to arrive from their suppliers.
Best sleeves for double sleeving better than kmc characters sleeves 🤩
Been waiting for Dragon Shield to make these at some point. I knew they would be great, I just needed them to exist :')
Tmr y yo comprando las clear standard se paran despegando con poco uso.
Really unfortunate, that new deliveries of this product are not perfectly fitting anymore... Actually they don't fit at all. They are 2 millimeters bigger in each length...
Genau, was ich mir auch denke und weswegen ich hier bin. Hab mir die vor ca. 2 Monaten bestellt und sie stehen 3mm unten ab. Dachte mir schon ich hatte irgendwie Pech bei meinen 2 Packs bzw. fragte ich mich, wieso die bei den CZcamsrn so top aussehen😅
@@hajrudingagulic2361 Ich war so happy, als ich die zum ersten Mal bestellt habe und dachte mir, die werden jetzt für alle Decks geholt. Und dann so eine Enttäuschung. Und ich verstehe es einfach nicht, wieso die Größe angepasst wurde zum Schlechteren. 😅
Hmm these outer sleeves are waaaaay too tight for Yugioh sleeves. Even when using Dragon Shields, you need to push the cards too hard into the sleeve (like in the video) to fit them. Too risky, especially considering that you can easily bend your cards this way. Moreover, taking the cards out is even harder lmao. I assume Dragon Shield isn't selling these anymore for this exact reason.
At the time of this video being made, looking back I would agree that I would not risk using these initial release versions of the Oversleeves for Yugioh. However, this problem seems to have been fixed since I've been able to comfortably Oversleeve Konami art sleeves much easier (The thin ones you see in locals with the black insides and art on the back).
These Oversleeves are still available since they were being used for Oversleeving in Cardfight Vanguard and like I said the Yugioh issue has been resolved from what I've noticed.
@@GuardianCircleCFV Yes, makes sense. Well, then it appears that the two packs that I bought a day ago are part of the old batch.
Any recommendation for better oversleeves? Possibly with a matte back. I am currently using ultra pros, but they're waaaay too slippery for my tastes. I've heard people saying that you can use standard sized dragon shields for oversleeving, is it true?
@@AnthonyGreenMountain Yeah I would recommend the Standard Size Dragonshield Clear Matte sleeves if you're experiencing issues with the Japanese Outer sleeves still. I used those ones originally for years to Oversleeve with before the Japanese Outer sleeves.
@@GuardianCircleCFV Great, thanks for the help!
Damn these are sold out…
Yeah that seems to be happening alot with these. My locals recently received their 2nd order of them after weeks of delays and they're looking too sell out again after only having them in store for a few days. I managed to pick up 4 boxes yesterday and when I informed my friends they also bought them in multiples 😅 Hope you're able to find some 👍
Just use penny sleeves