How to play against the most natural, weakest position in checkers
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- čas přidán 12. 06. 2024
- I've often talked about how developing out of the single corner and capturing the center is a sound and good strategy in checkers. But sometimes there can be too much of a good thing. I discuss in detail one of the most natural, common, and weakest formations in checkers and how to correctly counter it and even how to win against it.
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Thank i love your videos
one move separates a complete catastrophe from survival. Such is the game of armies . (checkers) Another great video Ryan!
This one felt like an all around magic show.
I played "Black"
1. 11-15 24-20 2. 7-11 23-18 3. 9-13 27-23 4. 12-16 21-17 5. 6-9 25-21 6. 8-12
30-25 7. 16-19 23x16x7 8. 2x11 17-14 9. 10x17 21x14 10. 3-7 26-23 11. 12-16
31-26 12. 4-8 32-27 13. 8-12 25-21 14. 13-17 22x13x6 15. 1x10x17 21x14
16. 15x22x31* 23-18 17. 31x24 28x19 18. 16x23 29-25 19. 23-26 25-21 20. 26-30*
21-17 21. 30-25 17-13 22. 25-22 18-15 23. 11x18 13-9 24. 22-17 14-10 25. 7x14
9-6 26. 17-13 6-2* 27. 13-9 2-7 28. 9-6 7-11 29. 14-17 11-15 30. 17-22 15-19
31. 6-2 20-16 32. 2-7 19-15 33. 12x19 15x24 34. 7-11 24-19 35. 11-7 19-15
36. 5-9 15-19 37. 7-10 19-24 38. 10-15 24-27 39. 15-19 27-32 40. 22-26 32-27
41. 9-14 27-31 42. 19-15 1-0
@@producingfire Thanks, Marcus, and thanks for sharing this game! It looks like neither side wanted to exchange any pieces early! I think in these types of games, after you commit 9-13 so early, it's probably best to follow up with either 5-9 or 6-9 immediately after (6-9 probably being best typically). And then at move 7 there's no back stop to protect a 2 for 1! But after that, you recover nicely and it's a shame your opponent wanted to play out 5 against 2 and then 4 against 1!
@@azcheckers Thanks Sensei! You're right, I'm so concerned about always try to stay even that i end up playing as conservative as possible. I've been on a bit of a losing streak and it seems like everytime I go on one of those my play style changes. I think they were under the assumption that I would mess the endgame up and maybe give them something to capitalize on later but 5-2 or 4 vs1 not a chance. I think I've figured out the group of 4 eyes or elbows at the start. I think those groups are formed on Cells. and I have a feeling that all of these cells make up connection points I think understanding that will help me see further ahead. I wasn't really able to see too far ahead until the board was less congested. I hope the tournament goes well tomorrow.
@@producingfire I understand, and sometimes it can be difficult to want to exchange any of your pieces early. However, I would recommend trying to do more of that to capture control of the center of the board, and then to build up enforcements into columns. You'll start to see patterns with these columns and cells. For example -- if you exchange a piece off of 18 by moving 11-15, your opponent will jump 18x11 and you'll jump back 8x15. Developing 4-8-11 and possibly 3-8 to build a single corner column is one route. Try it out and see if it works!
Top notch instruction! I personally needed to see this haha :) will be implementing some of these ideas
Thanks, Alex! I hope this video also helps to show to play either 4-8 (29-25) or 9-14 (24-19) and not play them back to back. What I show in the video is a very common sequence -- we've all been here at some point!
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I saw that pitch believe it or not. For the triple. Lol
Another great instructional video. Thank you again.
Fantastic! Yes, it's a great tactical sequence -- once you are able to spot the *21-17 move, then the jumps fall into place!
@@azcheckers yes it did Ryan.
I thought the weakest position was the dreaded Edinburgh because red makes two bad corner moves. I always see people doing this, and I have no idea how to counter it. Is there any videos on that?
Do you have another video explaining the concept of “elbows”? I’m not familiar with the term - thank you!
Hey Jake! I haven't dedicated a specific video to elbows, but I do touch base on them in a few. In my recent live stream (you can find it here: czcams.com/video/1YJznB2Nh_Q/video.html) I talk about elbows beginning at the 41 minute mark. Hopefully this helps!
I also would find it useful to help us novices understand some of the terms and why you want to avoid them . So I get the three pieces that make the elbow but why is it a problem, what does it cause and it appears in your link there are still other pieces around the elbow does that make a difference? So I have very basic knowledge but loving how knowledgeable you are 🤗
After the initial 24-19, 22-18, 25-22 by white, I normally respond with 7-10 for red instead of 16-20. The 16-20 gives white the opportunity to press with 19-15, which I find to be quite powerful. 7-10 is a bit more safe and can transform into a common Bristol cross variation. Maybe the better option against stronger players and are content just to draw. Though the 16-20 maybe a better choice against weaker players who may be more likely to respond with the weak 29-25. What do you think? Nice video. Keep up the good work.
Hey Joe! You're absolutely right! I was merely showing all of the different ways this landing can arise. You're right about 7-10 instead of 16-20 -- I think that move is recommended in most texts (I first studied it in Kear's). I've seen the 19-15 move played a number of times in tournament play, and there are some star moves needed for red. One of the reasons I wanted to highlight this natural and weak formation (22-18, 25-22, 29-25, 24-19) is because of how often I've seen it over the years in both online and in tournament play. Willie Ryan confirmed this back in 1950 in his Tricks, Traps, and Shots book, when he stated he had won more games from this formation than any other! Have you had the same experience? Thanks as always for your insight comments and thoughts!
@@azcheckers Believe it or not, this one does not come up for me too often. But like I said, I normally try avoiding it because of the strong 19-15 threat. However, the old fourteenth run up of 11-15, 23-19, 8-11, 22-17, 4-8, 25-22, 9-14 comes to mind as one of the most popular weak opening formations. I have gotten, (and I am sure you have too) countless wins on that since it is such a popular run up for the amateur player. I do agree that the concept of the 4-8/29-25 followed by 9-14/24-19 or vice versa normally being weak was a great concept to teach. I remember when learning the game it was very important to learn how to avoid common weak opening formations.
@@josephmoore5949 Yes, exactly! I realized that concept of not playing 4-8 (29-25) and 9-14 (24-19) back to back was never really articulated in any texts or books, but it's something that has been on my mind for many years now. There are always exceptions, but overall I think it is a good guide to follow. You're right about Old Fourteenth in particular -- such natural moves can actually be very weak, and that can be a difficult concept for beginning players to grasp (they are being taught to advance and dominate the center of the board).
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i have literly watched all your video and i am getting better thanks 4 ur video and the only thing that i am not understandig what is the best opening can u please tell me what is the best opening
Thank you very much and that's great news you have seen improvement in your game! I wish I could say what is the best opening to play -- it's really a matter of preference and what suits your style best. 11-15 of course is theoretically the best way to start the game, and some strong openings include the Old Fourteenth, Glasgow, Souter, and Whilter. I do cover those openings on this channel, so hopefully they have helped!
@@azcheckers tnx bro i wish u a lot sub
@@leulandargachew2431 Thank you very much!
Thank sir plz we need other video this sequence butt first move white
Overcrowding the center seems like a bad idea, indeed.
Yes, capturing control of the center is important, but overcrowding it can prove to be detrimental.