What The Jak 3 Design Bible Tells Us
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In this video, I wanted to discuss most of the interesting cut story ideas that were in the Limited Run Games Jak 3 Collector's Edition Design Bible. It's also full of concept art, design decisions, untold lore, and so much more. I hope you guys enjoy the video, and enjoy reading the full scan I did of it
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The idea that they gift you powers for metal head skulls in Jak II does kind of fit the bloodthirsty gods thing though.
God, the Wastelanders VS. Haven plot would've been SOOOO fucking cool
I like how, EVEN IN THE EARLY DRAFTS OF THE STORY, Naughty Dog decided to drop the "Jak is Mar" idea, opting instead for "..... take his place beside Mar".
Yeah I much prefer that as well. I'd chalk up a lot of the questionable story decisions in the final game to it being rushed. I wish they were able to spend another year making the game to have a more complete product
But it also shows that Naughty Dog, even when forced to rush things out and cut things out, can still deliver a product that holds together with chewing gum and ducktape. Because the only REAL things that got unanswered are:
- How did Erol contact the Dark Makers? Did he know of them? Learned from some book?
- WHAT would the metalheads tell you if you just ask them?
Otherwise, any other question is answered by thinking about it for roughly 25 seconds.
@@NotOrdinaryInGames yeah, I completely agree. Although, I would have liked the gameplay to be a bit more focused and not so piss easy
Self-imposed challenge: don't upgrade the guns via the secrets menu.
@@NotOrdinaryInGames whenever I play, I don't do that, or use the beam reflexor or use light Jak heal. But I shouldn't need to self impose that because the devs should have balanced the gameplay properly. If the best way to enjoy a game is to purposely not use tools it gives you, there's something wrong. Don't get me wrong, I love Jak 3, but I recognise it's pretty flawed
1:40 it was so hard to stop on that frame but soo worth it
If you ever want to stop on quick edits like that in the future, you can press "," and "." to scrub through a video one frame at a time.
@@TheElkEnigma oh really? Does it work on mobile?
@@flameblazerofdeath13 ah... yeah I didn't really think about mobile. I don't think it works on mobile.
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So, I have a deep complex theory that fleshes out the Mar legend in a very interesting way. Hear me out.
Mar is actually three people, as a holy trinity.
Now, to set this up, I should first address the fact that the events of Jak 1 and 2 are a time loop. Time loops don't just materialize out of nowhere. They are triggered by specific events. So, I propose that in the original timeline, which I will call timeline #1, without Jak and Daxter there to stop them, Gol and Mia successfully open the silos, and the resulting contamination created the perfect invironment for the previously exterminated metal head scourge to rise again. So, here's how shit goes down:
The original Mar, or "The Warrior" - The warrior in Rock Village in Jak 1. That's him. That's the guy. I glimpsed the Mar statue concept art in this video and he's a spitting image. My theory goes that Mar's struggle against the metal heads starts when they begin spilling into Rock Village from Mountain Pass. Seeking to redeem himself for his failure against Klaww, Mar was emboldened with fighting spirit and single handedly took up his sword against the metal head legions, inspiring the people of the village to rally behind him. As a reward for his heroics, the precursors would bless his child with a gene that allows for the channeling of eco. This gene would be inactive, but would be passed down through the generations until the true hero would be born with it active.
Mar #2, or "The traveler" This is the explorer. (Jak's uncle) On his travels, the explorer came into contact with the Precursors, who requested his help in countering the newly reborn metal head threat. Taking note of his possession of a sacred, magical stone (that which is buried in his cane) they claim the explorer's arrival to be prophesized. He travels to rock village and allies himself with Mar, who is valiantly leading his people in all out war against the metal heads. With the guidance of the Precursors, they journey south to join with the people of Sandover village. The union of Mar, the explorer, and the survivors of Rock Village and Sandover village, start the beginnings of Haven City. The explorer and Mar perform an exchange. The explorer turns over the Precursor stone to Mar, and Mar blesses the explorer with the use of his name. The explorer, with the help of the precursors, then begins his pilgrimage through time, serving as a decoy. A red hairing to divert the Metal Head leader and most of his forces to make it easier for Mar the original to defend early Haven City and hide the stone within. The stone that Kor doesn't realize he has, as he's too busy chasing it's last known owner through time. "Mar was clever. He covered his tracks well through time" Eventually of course, he does catch up to Mar the explorer and kill him, realizing that he didn't even have the stone. But at that point, Haven was resembling the state we see it in in Jak II with Damas, a descendant of Mar the warrior, as its leader. Kor's approach would now have to be more covert.
This is where Jak, Mar #3 comes into play. Onin prophecises that Damas's son would be the chosen one, and sure enough, he is born with the gene for channeling eco active. Damas names his son Mar in a sort of allusion to a second coming of the great hero. Of course all the bad guys get wind of this special child, with Vegar abducting him, losing him to the underground, Damas being overthrown by Praxis. Without the help of Jak and Daxter, the original timeline version of Haven City falls to the metal heads. Since timeline #1's world has been so contaminated with dark eco, the metal heads are thriving and are much, much stronger. The precursors themselves would actually intervene, but it wouldn't be enough. In the city's final moments, The original Shadow, in collaboration with the precursors and with the guidance of Onin, travels back in time with young Mar and sets up shop in Sandover Village in hopes of changing history to create an outcome where the city survives. This is how the time loop begins, as well as timelime #2. Young Jak would grow up to stop Gol and Mia, and accidently unleash the metal head scourge through the rift gate. This metal head return would be a lot more sudden, since they're being released all at once instead of steadily raising from the wastes of a corrupted world. So they would innitially strike much harder, but timeline #2's world is a lot less hospitable to them since it's not contaminated. Mar, the explorer, and the precursors would still hatch the same scheme, though since Sandover is already in ruins this timeline, the initial Haven City colony would be composed solely of survivors from Rock Village who migrated south. Jak would travel to the future, save Haven City, then send his younger self to the past, insuring that the time loop continues, creating timeline #3, where the sole difference is Samos, since the circumstances of original Samos's arrival to the past are different from the Samos hailing from timeline #2, Haven's first victorious timeline. The timeline we play in the games is timeline #3. Jak creates a fourth timeline when he goes back in time with the precursors at the end of Jak 3, where he plays a direct role in the establishment and fortification of Haven City, ensuring that timeline #4s victory against the metal heads would be much quicker and much more decisive. What happens next in that timeline we'll never see is anybodys guess, but i'm just really proud of myself for coming up with that DEEP lore theory, so you can tell me what you think, haha.
It's certainly interesting, but it doesn't seem very plausible, and it's very convoluted. But cheers for sharing mate
Yeah, I agree with everyone else. This is equal parts amazing and convoluted. It doesn't actually retcon or alter anything we know so far, though, and it would definitely be amazing to see.
I still don't actually think the warrior is Mar, though. There's nothing about him resembling the statue other than his overall macho-ness. And his hair being in a ponytail, but it's a different kind. The warrior was more roman, while Mar was more like a knight. Also Mar seems much taller than the warrior, as well. Though the statue seems very basic and old, and I wouldn't recommend using it as reference for inferring Mar's appearance. All his statues were likely built long after his legacy became so vast, by people who never actually met him. It's a possibility.
Also, the mystery of the explorer isn't as grand as people make it seem. Though he was claimed to be Jak's uncle, and he does look like he could be related to him, he might as well just be his caretaker (Because Samos doesn't look like he's good with children)
His disappearance isn't so strange, either. In olden times (And even in modern times) people disappeared all the time. Their disappearances are always mysterious and strange, but the truth is rarely as grandiose. Jak's uncle was an explorer. Even ignoring the metalhead invasion, it's not unusual for him and his expedition to have been lost and died in some forest or ruins, leaving no trace to reveal how he died.
Also, the design bibles also reveal to us that Mar very likely (It's still not confirmed of course) fell from the sky, and disappeared in a similar fashion. Wait, no that's the truth. Kor confirms Mar traveled through time. The only person we know who's traveled through time and literally called Mar, is Jak. Though to be honest, it could just as likely be someone else entirely still.
At any rate, people say with Jak sending his younger self home, the last rift gate is lost, but that's not true. The rift gate itself remains, only the vehicle went through the portal. It also goes back to the future, so all the crucial artifacts needed to rebuild it are still there, they just need to be found.
Sorry, I kinda accidentally started into a rant about my own theory. What I mean to say is, your theory is amazing, but it's very complicated and there's a much simpler way to tell a story about a time traveling savior, because Jak could actually theoretically travel back through time, and he's already called Mar.
I think it would’ve been dope if Damas attack haven, So he can look for his son a.k.a. young Jak.
I feel like Naughtydog should put the blockbuster graphical adventures for a holt for some year or two and focus on developing what made them famous in the first place. This trilogy (ok, maybe not Collectibles & Daxter 1) holds up even to 2021's standarts gameplaywise and lorewise. My only fear is that they'll end up rebooting everything and not explaining at all the mysteries of these games :/
And change all the female designs and get rid of Krew
Edit: as in, that's what they would do if the touched the series today
@@BlueisNotaWarmColour how does it feel to be so fucking accurate? 😂
Modern ND would butcher Jak and Daxter
Also, now in light of the initial concept for the plot, a lot of Damas' and Sig's lines about the "survival of the fittest" finally make sense, because in the final Jak 3, they're not exactly in competition with anyone in practice, except perhaps the Marauders. I'm still wondering why much of the dialogue here was kept, it certainly felt odd.
very late to this party and it may have already been said but, the seed may make the core a rough outline of a planet then the robots sculpt it after that. They are both intrinsic to the process. And in a case where there is a barren waste planet then just the robots are necessary but otherwise, they need to "plant" a seed.
I never thought Damas was the founder. Young Jak was apparently 7 in Jak II, so assuming Damas was cast from the throne and banished just after Jak was born that would mean he hasn’t even been in the Wastelands for more than a decade. Spargus is a reasonably sized city with plenty of structures, so for all that to be made in just 8 or so years is quite a stretch.
As far as population goes, it seems plausible that under Damas’s rule some trouble makers got banished for various reasons. He was going to throw out Jak and Sig, wasn’t he? And there were Haven City rulers before him that probably oversaw some banishes. It’s even plausible that some Spargus citizens are even desert-born.
Also I kind of dig the idea of the Precursors turning out to be evil chess masters the whole time. I mean, in the end they were revealed to be literal weasels using smoke and mirrors to make themselves out as gods. I wouldn’t trust them.
they kind of are evil in the final game as well, at least a faction of them, as it is stated that the dark makers are precursors corrupted by dark eco.
Also, I find it weird how no one ever mentioned how all the precursor robots look more like dark makers than actual "normal" precursors. That makes me think the dark makers are actually the normal precursors and the ottsels are more like rebels or something.
@@stevencraeynest7729 Actually, if you look at the precursor temple's wall art, you can theorize that the precursors used to be human. There were two kinds of precursors:
Light precursors: Those precursors wore a headmask that resembled precursor robots
Dark precursors: Those precursors wore a headmask that looked like a sleeker version, more similar to the dark makers in design.
It's very likely that those precursors were light and dark eco sages, and the dark makers are precursors who got corrupted by dark eco and fused to their clothes/machines, while the other precursors were either killed, or thrown into dark eco vats, transforming them into ottsels like with Daxter. Maybe they transformed themselves to hide from the dark ones, or maybe the dark makers simply didn't know anyone could survive the dark eco vats. Whenever Jak falls into a pool of dark eco, the game ends, and it's not clear if he's transformed into an ottsel, or just died, so it's even possible that only a few of them were lucky enough to survive.
Anyway basically, I don't think the oracles and robots infer the precursors' appearance, rather the sort of way they liked to present themselves. Just like plague doctors used to wear crow masks in Europe, precursor sages probably wore masks of iconic bugs from their homeworld.
@@mar_speedmanthe robots are explicitly described as terraforming machines. They’re machines built for changing ecosystems. Yeah I don’t take that as a depiction of what they looked like. It would be weird to model your terraforming devices to look anatomically like yourself.
@@misanthropicservitorofmars2116 But wouldn't it be weird to make humanoid terraforming robots with insect heads at all? The terraformers had no reason to be humanoid robots. If we're thinking about maximum efficiency, the terraformers should've been ships or vehicles. The precursors chose that iconography for a reason. Sure, the beaks or snouts or whatever you wanna call them, they have function, but there's bound to be more efficient ways to terraform planets
Between those, and the oracles that had no reason to appear as they did at all (they're just communicators basically), it's certainly indicating toward some sort of importance to this depiction.
@@mar_speedman it would be weird.
But the robots have pretty clear designs. The nose literally fits on eco vents. It’s the perfect fit. They suck up eco from the vents. They want a tool and an arm to use the tool, because the robots need to be able to do small details as well.
Maybe the humanoid shape arose naturally from what they needed? The robots don’t fly between planets. They have ships. It’s what the day star is in Jak 3, a precursor ship corrupted by dark eco.
As for the oracles. I personally believe those are not part of the original plans. I think it’s literally the precursors speaking through it. They’re actually underground speaking to their creations through the oracles. Like at a kids playground they have the tubes with cones that connect to the other side of the playground, so you can talk through them. It’s literally that.
Once the precursors on the planet gave up, or were forced to stop the original plans of creation, and went to a deep underground bunker. They “play up the myth” now. The design of those are because they look like the robots. That’s what their creation associates with precursors. So that’s what they roll with.
thank you for sharing all this! As a huge Jak and Daxter fan this is really interersting.
It’s crazy Jak 3 had only 1 year of dev time. Great game, but I do prefer the other two if I have to choose.
For real? It's a huge game. Surprised they made it that quick
Damas staff looks like the staff Jak uses in the lost frontier game.
Because it is
Why does everyone think Damas is a kind ruler? The first thing he did after saving Jak, was to throw him into a death battle
And those who survived, can still be tossed back into the wasteland if Damas doesn’t like them
yeah, exactly
To be fair to him, he is also following the laws of Spargus. Not to mention, Praxis' betrayal and the loss of his son probably left him bitter. His behavior in Jak 3 is no indication of his rule of Haven City
Fun fact, "Damas" in the French dub of the game is written as Damas, but pronounced "Damus," with the very noticeable U. It's entirely likely that the lines were recorded before the final spelling of the character's name was issued.
I'd think the robots are part of the last building phases to "fine tune" the surface of a planet after a gigantic ship has shaped a general size and place for the huge molten rock of chaos floating in space. They are pretty abundant, we keep stumbling upon several of them in just the little country we get to explore - by foot mind you. Unless Jak's planet is damn small and assuming their abundance doesn't waiver outside the lands we see ourselves then relative to how large a planet is it must mean they where probably a kind of "tiny robot" swarm.
The robots are grand and all for our size but for all of them swarm or not to alone work on an entire planet? I don't know, I'd like to imagine the precursors somewhere out in space had something even more unimaginably vast beyond all the might we can see and comprehend from our world.
I mostly like to think so since if precursors are a kind of god then why can we even defeat the supposedly planet-shaping robots if that was the limit of their size? That's not all that impressive, in terms of godhood anyway.
I like this theory, though I don't think there necessarily NEEDS to be bigger ones in order to create the planet. Jaks planet it littered with these robots, so all of these working together to create the planet doesn't seem too unrealistic. But I do agree, there probably are even more vast and impressive precursor inventions. Just look at what the dark makers were capable of
@@PowercellZeke Ooo but that's another cool thought that gets my mind spinning. Even with the dark maker ship it's like I can't help but want to think of the dark maker troopers as being artificial sentinels, and again like I mentioned of robot swarms these too are but a tiny bacteria in comparison to the real dark makers somewhere out there. The entire ship itself just a kind of scout or egg to spread their foundations, something so apathetic and automated in the far edges of their empire that they wouldn't even give it's failure too much thought, though if Jak where to keep prodding that nerve we would soon be to face the consequences of them in their actual fully aware cognitive effort to eradicate what is equivalent to us an ant colony in the kitchen.
But yes, there is no need no, over the top and also we've seen the ottsels which do bring all of that more down to earth. I'm just obsessed in thinking bigger each time, basic lovecraftian rules where your only hope is being so insignificant that the gods won't notice you
Hey now! Jak never destroys a fully intact Precursor Robot! They're all ancient machines that were barely intact at best, and heavily modified on top of that at worst! That's no indication of a robot's might in its prime!
Damn , this one was super interesting! Will be downloading it and giving it a read for sure!
Fantastic analysis! Highly enjoyed it.
Cheers man
I could buy into the 'Precursors as villains' idea, but not like the original proposal. Make them more coldly logical than bloodthirsty. Maybe the ones on the Day Star ship are just doing their jobs, coming to the planet to remake it according to the plans they had for it eons ago. It wouldn't matter to them that everyone on the planet would be wiped out because the life on the planet hadn't developed according to their plans in the first place, making their lives irrelevant. Maybe the underground Precursors that have helped Jak all along have watched over the incomplete world for millenia and seen how life and civilization has grown and flourished in ways they hadn't been able to predict. It hasn't gone according to the Precursors' overarching master plan, but they find that the world is beautifully flawed and its people [especially Jak] hold great potential. The rest of their spaceborne brethren wouldn't have the same perspective and would simply continue what they started ages ago, recreating the planet and wiping it clean. The underground Precursors are of course outnumbered and underpowered, so they would need Jak's help to save the world they've grown to love and watch over.
As for the Planet Seed, maybe it's the source from which all of the Precursor robots draw their power. Lifeless rock and dirt wouldn't hold much Eco power, especially if it takes Eco for the robots to construct it in the first place. The Seed might leak Eco into the earth, and they sip it from the ground like was mentioned in the Jak 1 design bible. The Precursor tunnels, like the ones traversed in the superfast yellow hover vehicles, might act as scaffolding for them to build off of while also helping to transport the Eco.
This last bit might be a bit of a stretch. Since the Planetary Defense System in 3 needed the Dark & Light eco sphere to be powered on, maybe that's why the planet was left unfinished: the Planet Seed at its core ran out of power and the giant robots became dormant to save energy.
Great theory, but the planet didn't run out of power. There was still plenty of eco during the events of Jak & Daxter, and the precursors aren't the sort of people to miscalculate and run out of materials halfway through building it.
In fact, the very idea of answering the age old question 'why did the precursors vanish' with 'because they ran out of resources so they gave up' sounds a lot less satisfying than them being attacked by metalheads or dark makers
That is why jak and daxter needs a sequel my friend. Like Gol and mala coming back in the under world. And they can explain about mar .
And they can go in detail of gol story like how many years has they study dark eco.
And they can go back to the first game story instead of the dark ship build the planet they can go back to the precursor robot build the planet.
Gol and Maia coming back? But I mean, the dark eco vats probably killed them!
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*Probably...*
nice job!
We never got light jak glide but he does have 2 glitch exploit powers being infinite flight by using flap and shield, x,o,x,o. In some tiles there is no limit to how high you can fly. also the ability to make his wings infinitely large by timing your jumps towards a specific frame of the recovery.
Jak 3 is what sparked my love for desert environs
Nice.
Lurker sharks sparked my fear of swimming in large bodies of water. ☠️
Daxter™® being referenced in the official Jak 3 merchandise is the best part.
That story is intense!
Good video. You earned a sub.
Eyy, cheers mate
My headcanon is that the day star was the planet builder, a ship carrying many precurser robots and the planet seed being basically the schematics for how to build the same planet again so if the planet is destroyed the the seed can be found and the planet rebuilt by the day star
Theory time.
The world of Jak and Daxter was certainly created by the precursors no matter what. The question becomes that of how they created it. It begins with the planet seed. We don't know exactly what it is, but I like to think it's like the life seed in Jak II (but that's a theory for later) seem describes the life seed as "the deep place where the planet was first formed by the ancient ones (Jak 3 DB pg 63)" the precursors who formed the world took the planet seed and used it to create a huge chunk of rock in space with the seed at the core. Here's where the og precursor robots come in. The Jak 1 design bible says that they "shape barren rocks into life sustaining planets (Jak 1 DB pg 46)" This worked out well for them until late in the process where something must hav happened to the precursors that made them abandon the project and go into hiding. Ithink this because on the same page it says "...on all other planets the precursors have created they and their robots leave no trace *when the work was done*" Therefore, the planet was not done and the robots puzzled the sages throughout the games. Perhaps the precursors sent a distress call to their kin creating other worlds in space somewhere. As time passes, the precursors evolve into dark makers and in the some thousand years it takes for them to receive the distress call and arive their technology evolves with them. Thus arives the day star which is "...in fact a precursor builder headed for their world to erase and remake the unformed planner as the precursors intended. (Jak 3 DB pg 64)". On the ship were several terraformers on the ship that will carry out the deed of destroying the world so that the new dark makers will rebuild it with the day star. But the og precursors fall in love with their unfinished world and love all the attention they're getting so they decide to keep the world as it is and help Jak to stop the dark makers.
I think you're right about the planet seed and robots, that makes a lot of sense. However, the Precursors didn't evolve into dark makers, it was their exposure to dark eco that changed them. As the oracle at the astral viewer said, the dark makers "began twisting worlds, conquering life, and dark ages ensued".
The last part about the Precursors not wanting to give up their planet would make sense in the context of the early stroy synopsis, but I'm really glad it didn't end up like that
@@PowercellZeke this is a theory about what may have happened had they gone with the early story synopsis. Also if you switch out "evolve" for "change" or "morph" the theory starts to make more sense I think.
@@samuelmyers3904 I mean, the theory still makes sense, just replace 'evolved into dark makers' with 'civil war between precursors (Precursors versus Dark Makers) requiring all builders to return swiftly to their homeworld and abandoning all their equipment' and it all fits into place so well.
The precursors didn't evolve into dark makers. Iconography inside the precursor temple reveals that they had dark eco and light eco sages. We all know what happens to dark eco sages who obsess over dark eco now, don't we!
I like the idea that instead of the precursor creating worlds from nothing they used their machines to come to barren planets and with the help of eco establish life
I check the bible design yesterday
The artwork of the pink Monk Temple is totaly different in the final game...
Also, the Metal Head City is very different too...
8:40 Can we not assume the Precursor ship is inhabited by Precursor robots the same way the Dark Maker ship had a terraformer?
Edit: Whooops he addresses this.
This stood at to me as a thought. Perhaps the precursor did use ships. As they would travel the universe in ships. Obviously this is a dark maker ship at this point. Precursors effected by dark eco if I remember correctly. But perhaps the precursors would of use these ships to travel the universe and inject or create the plant seed which is where the world starts. Maybe this seed will contain all the contents to create or grow a world. Or all the eco. Or the seed is just a word for where they start their operation. In the center of the world. Therefore it was called the seed as it was the source of the precursors creation. And the robots do create the world or at least play a part in doing so. They would be stored on the ship. They would have to be transported around some how. and if they were usually removed when a world is finished they must not of stayed on the plant. so they must of been stored on ships. And these robots were then used to shape the world. Detail is better done up close. It be hard to shape all the details of a world on a ship out in orbit. So that where the robots came in. They were what landed on the plant. Maybe some where created on plant. But I’m sure the ship would of been just the start of the process. Not the whole process.
Yeah I think I alluded to that in the video about the ship, but the thing with the planet seed could also be possible, but again, none of this was in the final game so it's all just speculation
Powercell Freak Yea sorry. Should of been more clear since you did mention it in the video. I was more elaborating on the idea. It’s fun to theorize. For a short live but I say beloved video game series. They put a lot of effort in world building. Basically made a religion for a video game. They probably didn’t have to make up half the stuff they did.
@@cookieridergirl yeah I know, and that's what I love so much about these games, the world is so fascinating and so mysterious
I think the star builds the planet, and the precursor robot builds landscapes. Such as mountains, valleys, oceans.
Seem es un personaje masculino.
Su actor de voz en Español es el mismo sujeto que interpretó a Sly Cooper.
Maybe the Day Star builds the world, and the Robots shape it.
I just want to add a little info :
I dont know why but in the French version of Jak 3, is still Damus, and not Damas....
Yeah that is weird, but thanks for sharing!
wow
Damus, if you switch the position of the a and the U, You get Dumas.
I could imagine Damas taking a puff of skunky
Powercell Freak does downloading the jak 3 bible in the jak and daxter archive have any cost$
No mate, everything on there is for free
@@PowercellZeke thanks
I think it’s interesting how Naughty Dog’s content aged with its audience. Let’s assume the average DOB for naughty dog fans is 1990:
Crash Bandicoot 1996-1999 (age 6-9)
Jak & Daxter 2001 (age 11)
Jak 2003-2005 (age 13-16)
Uncharted 2007-2016 (age 17-26)
Last of Us 2013-2020 (age 23-30)
I make a distinction between Jak & Daxter and the later Jak games because of the massive shift in tone. They went from E to T. I like the Jak series but I wish naughty had continued the OG Jak & Daxter is some way. Maybe they could have an alternate timeline trilogy of games similar to Zelda? I want another open world platformer.
the final boss of jak 3 is a terraformer... im pretty sure its meant to be implied that precursors went around making planets with many different kinds of technology, including the robots, and the things that ultimately one of them ended up being the final boss for jak 3.
im pretty sure the idea is that the day star was a precursor ship with a set of equipment that was left somewhere really far away mostly intact, but then got corrupted by dark eco or something
the plot of jak 3 does not really make that much sense in my opinion, especially with cyber errol existing at all, and then somehow contacting the corrupted precursor ship through some magic telepathic link..??
the story of jak 3 to me felt very rushed and half baked when compared to the story of 1 and 2, but the purpose of the day star and its technology was never something i found confusing at all
Gotcha 1:39
1:39
Also 10:12
I'm glad someone caught those haha
@@PowercellZeke I'm eagle-eyed you know
I was gonna point it out, but someone already did hahaha
10:13 Pause the video and click on it
Gotta leave it at 420 likes
The ship creates the planets the robots build the world's.
That draft is trying way too hard and while I much prefer the weasels to some dumb survival of the fittest routine, I don't like the weasels reveal either. They really did the Precursors poorly there and should have been treated much better. Not as jokes, not being secretly evil or uncaring, just let them be benevolent terraformers. On that subject the planet seed is probably what starts the process and becomes the core in later stages. Just fire one of those into a nebula and let natural forces take over, then come in with the robots for the finer details.
In regards to Seem, I didn't even know there was a big thing about their gender. Sure as a kid I questioned it but I remember pretty explicitly that Daxter calls them 'Monk Boy' at some point, so I just figured they were an effeminate guy from that point on.
In the Spanish voices, the monk Seem has a male voice actor.
In English, the voice of seem reminds me of Tails from the Sonic games.
I always had a headcannon that Seem was genderfluid.
if there are men with a girl's voice, and Michael Jackson is an example of that.
for what i understand from the draft, Jak3 wasnt suppose to end in a "and they live happily ever after" finale, it looks like it would be a more definitive ending and dark as well, something, unfortunately, the audience wouldnt appreciate. For what i understand the Precursors weren't the amazing good gods that they were painted to be, they left the world unfinished, unknowingly and in the meantime sentient life flourished, and when they came back to finish the job they werent too happy about what was happening. The planet builder could have been this "something.something" with eco that would create the first draft of a world and then the robots would add the detail. So all this war is just a scheme that the precursors made do restore balance in a very "godly" way. And after learning this jak wouldnt have it and instead of playing as a puppet of the precursors he simply decides to end their rule, no dark makers, just an ancient race playing god.
Seriously after playing so many times the jak series, Jak 3 is the one that seems completely messed up, there's info that appears out no where, as well as items and certain plot points make no sense, for example jak being the son of Damas could have been talked about almost right from the beginning of the game (i believe this was something added in a late phase for some reason). This is why the reboot idea keeps making sense as the next step for reviving the franchise.
Jak 3 and Uncharted 3 are Naughty Dog's weakest games when it comes to Writing.
To me it looks like they had a lot of ideas and would have needed a sequel or two to get all those ideas fleshed out. Jak 3 is already a complicated mess of ideas as it it
In the german version Seem is male.
Are they voiced by a male, or does the game actually say they're male?
@@PowercellZeke voiced by a male and also implied to be one. Btw. respectable that you actually answer to a random comment.
@@dangerjoe8911 Seem is voiced by a female in English, and a few official sources say she's female. And of course, I respond to most comments
@@PowercellZeke even in the English version in game seem is called a boy